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kevie
3rd March 2014, 20:41
This biker made me cringe :wacko:...... traffic was flowing at 80km/h and he lane split through them at speed :eek5:..... out of sight of the camera shot he continued through the lines .... I was waiting for the carnage but he got away with it. :sherlock:

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rustic101
3rd March 2014, 21:03
I may have missed something but you could have driven a bus through there and still not touched the sides!!!
Personally I never split traffic faster than 104kph else I'll get a ticket but here in Wellington it gets tight at times

caseye
3rd March 2014, 21:03
Yeah rustic, the first gap maybe a bus, but it is still illegal to do what this rider did in moving traffic and given that it was at more than or thereabouts 80 Kph, it isn't OK to split between lanes between cars.
Around them with use of indicators I don't have a problem with.



See it up here everyday Kev. Not only making more car drivers pissed at all of us but not helping the stats if they do get clobbered, at these speeds it's pretty much a dead cert someone is going to die.

BuzzardNZ
3rd March 2014, 21:17
I didn't see too much wrong with that!

Oakie
3rd March 2014, 21:36
I didn't see too much wrong with that!
He overtook on the left of the vehicles on the rightmost lane, pure and simple. I got fined $40 and lost demerits for doing it in 1981 so I'm an expert on the subject.

SMOKEU
3rd March 2014, 21:52
I wouldn't do shit like that. You never know when some fuckwit is going to change lane without indicating or looking where they're going.

YellowDog
3rd March 2014, 21:56
The split was well timed, as neither vehicle could do anything stupid, as they were side by side. But I'd agree that he was going a shade too fast to be safe and made himself quite vulnerable to unpredictable actions of others.

Berries
3rd March 2014, 22:15
Not much of a speed differential and yes, you could have got a bus through there. Not sure why you have your knickers in a twist really, although seeing as you were being overtaken and undertaken at the same time perhaps you were the cause of it for not keeping left?

ellipsis
3rd March 2014, 22:18
..did someone die...fuck off...

shafty
3rd March 2014, 22:24
We're you truckin Kev? What ya running?

Brett
3rd March 2014, 22:26
Not interested, no wheelie was involved.:shit:

ZeroIndex
4th March 2014, 00:59
eh... back in the day, that's how a lot of bikers used to ride

skippa1
4th March 2014, 05:18
It wasn't that tight. If it was he would have popped the front wheel up

trustme
4th March 2014, 06:14
If we see a car dodging & weaving through traffic , cutting lanes & trying to beat the flow we castigate him as being a total muppet.
Obviously motorcyclists are different , only we are capable of such amazing feats of daring & skill.

unstuck
4th March 2014, 06:22
:killingme:killingme:killingme:tugger:

nzspokes
4th March 2014, 07:39
I had a quick check to make sure it wasnt me.....:msn-wink:

SMOKEU
4th March 2014, 07:59
as neither vehicle could do anything stupid, as they were side by side.

Cagers are constantly inventing new ways to cause crashes. I wouldn't want to take the risk of proving that theory wrong.

Banditbandit
4th March 2014, 08:27
:killingme I would have done it much faster than that .. nothing wrong with what he did (might have been illegal - but that's not the same thing ..

If that's what you call "filtering" then it's mild ..

TheDemonLord
4th March 2014, 08:33
NZ Ghost Rider - not as interesting as the Real one....

The Little Gixxer
4th March 2014, 10:00
Had worse today, watched some kid go off road, onto the footpath and barrel along past a mother and her child to avoid going through traffic. Fortunately caught up with him at the lights and informed "nicely" not to do it again else he could possibly be swimming with his bike round his neck. Man some people.

Kendoll
4th March 2014, 10:08
Had worse today, watched some kid go off road, onto the footpath and barrel along past a mother and her child to avoid going through traffic. Fortunately caught up with him at the lights and informed "nicely" not to do it again else he could possibly be swimming with his bike round his neck. Man some people.

Wow :eek5: ...now THAT is ridiculous. Glad you gave them the old stern word :mad:

ZeroIndex
4th March 2014, 11:38
Back in South Africa, I used to drive my car like that (but faster)... my reasoning was "there is no way a hi-jacking crew is gonna risk their life trying to steal my car"

...also, the cops didn't give a shit... pretty sure they were trying to solve murders, rapes and other actual crimes :Police:

jasonu
4th March 2014, 12:39
Didn't look that bad to me.

SMOKEU
4th March 2014, 15:56
Back in South Africa, I used to drive my car like that (but faster)... my reasoning was "there is no way a hi-jacking crew is gonna risk their life trying to steal my car"

...also, the cops didn't give a shit... pretty sure they were trying to solve murders, rapes and other actual crimes :Police:

Yeah, you always have to watch out for those fucking cheeky kaffirs. It's why I left the place, as there's just too many of those dumb monkeys.

R650R
4th March 2014, 16:12
That's nothing, looks like sensible pace relative to flow.

BoristheBiter
5th March 2014, 07:08
This biker made me cringe :wacko:...... traffic was flowing at 80km/h and he lane split through them at speed :eek5:..... out of sight of the camera shot he continued through the lines .... I was waiting for the carnage but he got away with it. :sherlock:




traffic flowing at 80kph, you were being passed both inside and out and you have the nerve to point the finger for someone (IYO) being a dick.

Maybe if people didn't drive so slow in the middle and outside lanes with disregard of those around them bikers, and cages, wouldn't feel the need to do this just to get somewhere in a reasonable time.

trustme
5th March 2014, 07:34
Obviously never driven a large truck have you petal.
The left hand lane finishes not far past hill road so you are forced to merge right which in peak traffic ain't so easy in a B train or 40' semi
The motorists simply won't let you in. May well be limited to 90kph , some thing I hate by the way. Plenty of distance ahead of him so plenty of stopping room.
The car on the left is merging because the lane ends, plenty of room for him to do it
All good in my eyes , exactly what I would do

Boris , gotta walk a mile in a truckie's shoes before spouting rubbish.

BoristheBiter
5th March 2014, 09:25
Obviously never driven a large truck have you petal. yes i have thanks
The left hand lane finishes not far past hill road so you are forced to merge right which in peak traffic ain't so easy in a B train or 40' semi(how long has he sat in this lane?)
The motorists simply won't let you in. just do what you truckie's do normally, just pull over.
May well be limited to 90kph , some thing I hate by the way. Plenty of distance ahead of him so plenty of stopping room. wasn't talking about the gap
The car on the left is merging because the lane ends, plenty of room for him to do it
All good in my eyes , exactly what I would do

Boris , gotta walk a mile in a truckie's shoes before spouting rubbish.

What, like kev's rant about some bike?

Katman
5th March 2014, 09:30
Boris , gotta walk a mile in a truckie's shoes before spouting rubbish.

Boris would never log on if he wasn't allowed to spout shit he knows nothing about.

Madness
5th March 2014, 09:43
Boris would never log on if he wasn't allowed to spout shit he knows nothing about.

He knows a thing or two about "do-do" it seems...


...just do do you truckie's do normally, just pull over.

BoristheBiter
5th March 2014, 11:20
Boris would never log on if he wasn't allowed to spout shit he knows nothing about.

sorry that's your job isn't it.


He knows a thing or two about "do-do" it seems...

well that's a thing, or two, more than you.

swbarnett
5th March 2014, 15:23
Obviously motorcyclists are different
Actually, yes, they are different. Size matters!


I had a quick check to make sure it wasnt me.....:msn-wink:
Likewise.


Cagers are constantly inventing new ways to cause crashes. I wouldn't want to take the risk of proving that theory wrong.
Then why do you ride on roads that have cagers? Or do you?


:killingme I would have done it much faster than that .. nothing wrong with what he did (might have been illegal - but that's not the same thing ..

If that's what you call "filtering" then it's mild ..
Agreed. Faster can actually be safer. Less time for something to go wrong and more able to get out if it does.

Hoon
5th March 2014, 15:46
If anything all he did wrong ("wrong" is a bit strong in this case - "could improve on" is probably better) is less weaving about while performing the maneuver. Sudden rapid movements freak out car drivers and attract unwanted attention - usually making something look more reckless than it is such in this case.

ZeroIndex
5th March 2014, 18:56
If anything all he did wrong ("wrong" is a bit strong in this case - "could improve on" is probably better) is less weaving about while performing the maneuver. Sudden rapid movements freak out car drivers and attract unwanted attention - usually making something look more reckless than it is such in this case.
"Sudden rapid movements freak out car drivers" ...yep, if you're going fast enough, by the time they freak out, you've passed another 3-4 cars... sometimes I miss being young and stupid :lol:

SMOKEU
5th March 2014, 20:03
Then why do you ride on roads that have cagers? Or do you?


I try to ride on quiet roads as much as possible

sharp2183
5th March 2014, 21:29
Obviously never driven a large truck have you petal.
The left hand lane finishes not far past hill road so you are forced to merge right which in peak traffic ain't so easy in a B train or 40' semi
The motorists simply won't let you in. May well be limited to 90kph , some thing I hate by the way. Plenty of distance ahead of him so plenty of stopping room.
The car on the left is merging because the lane ends, plenty of room for him to do it
All good in my eyes , exactly what I would do

Boris , gotta walk a mile in a truckie's shoes before spouting rubbish.

I ride that road every day, and also spent a fair bit of my working life driving trucks... The middle lane is the lane to be in here, no doubt. Traffic appears fast in the left hand lane here mostly because 50% of those who were in it have pulled off onto Hill Road. Then everyone remaining speeds up. I see it every single day, and often take advantage of it too.

unstuck
6th March 2014, 04:02
Yeah, you always have to watch out for those fucking cheeky kaffirs. It's why I left the place, as there's just too many of those dumb monkeys.

I thought you would of just tagged along with mummy and daddy, but you chose to come here by yourself. God forgive us, for we know not what we do.:weep:

TheDemonLord
6th March 2014, 08:03
I got a visual telling off from an Officer yesterday for doing something similar - was filtering through, traffic sped up, I sped up more, was committed to going past - so decided to get on with it and get passed safely.

Got a horn honk and a finger wave from the Bike Cop who was in the inside lane :Oops:

Banditbandit
6th March 2014, 08:24
Agreed. Faster can actually be safer. Less time for something to go wrong and more able to get out if it does.


Yeah .. but what I meant was faster is more fun ..


sometimes I miss being young and stupid :lol:

I don't - I've become old and stupid it seems ...

swbarnett
6th March 2014, 15:42
Yeah .. but what I meant was faster is more fun ..
Yeah, that too.

ZeroIndex
6th March 2014, 16:30
Yeah .. but what I meant was faster is more fun ..



I don't - I've become old and stupid it seems ...
Since my younger days (back when I had my FZR400), I've learnt critical thinking, reasoning and being reasonable... back then I didn't know any better... used to think I was bulletproof

mhm
6th March 2014, 17:27
yeah really thought this was gonna be me as well. ride that road daily and will happily filter at up to 104:innocent:.as others have said

a little less weaving width would've helped as cage drivers do get spooked and
am a firm believer in use a lil wrist if things do change but id say 99% time your long gone before they even notice
and most times filtering when cars are side by side is best as no cars going to merge into another,they're going to merge into a gap

as most who ride day in day out know its about visibility (and no i don't mean bright yellow anything).cagers just do not see most of us,they have far too many things distracting them and they're laxed about fender benders as they don't die or loose a limb.riders do and almost all riders i know ride with far higher focus levels then cagers ever do

and finally im also a firm believer in ride firmly but not aggressively,show others your there and be decisive about what your about to do,my guts proven itself right more times than i can remember

thats me for now:laugh:

scumdog
6th March 2014, 21:44
...also, the cops didn't give a shit... pretty sure they were trying to solve murders, rapes and other actual crimes :Police:

Well, they would, wouldn't they - after all there's a shit-load (tm) more murders, rapes and other 'actual crimes' happening and needing solved over there compared to NZ eh....

trustme
7th March 2014, 15:51
almost all riders i know ride with far higher focus levels then cagers ever do

I used to think that but now I'm by no means certain. In just over half of motorcycle accidents the rider is at fault , many of those accidents are bike only, kind of suggests to me we are no better than the cagers , we just like to think we are

A motorcycle training instructor with the police commented to me that the average rider lacks basic skills. You would be surprised how many would struggle to do a feet up full lock U turn.

yevjenko
7th March 2014, 17:05
Got a horn honk and a finger wave from the Bike Cop who was in the inside lane :Oops:

Buy that man a DB (or better yet a decent beer). Good policing

R650R
7th March 2014, 17:20
I ride that road every day, and also spent a fair bit of my working life driving trucks... The middle lane is the lane to be in here, no doubt. Traffic appears fast in the left hand lane here mostly because 50% of those who were in it have pulled off onto Hill Road. Then everyone remaining speeds up. I see it every single day, and often take advantage of it too.

I agree and used to drive that bit of road nearly every day to in b-train.
It's another one of transit/LTSA/Govt abortion of road designs.
Obviously like in other spots they built the mway and bridges wide enough to be full three lane affairs in 20-30 years time etc but it has never happened. From the start that lane should end at the offramp and not continue.
The amount of misery that location must have caused people in injury and delays over the years due to bad design and lack of action from authorities. But I suspect they probably sneak up that left lane when on a mission as often as everyone else so we're all guilty.

PrincessBandit
7th March 2014, 17:30
I had a quick check to make sure it wasnt me.....:msn-wink:

Well it wasn't me 'cos Hill Road is my off-ramp and I wouldn't miss taking it by that much...

SMOKEU
8th March 2014, 08:20
You would be surprised how many would struggle to do a feet up full lock U turn.

Which is something that I kept losing points for on my license tests. I don't know how it's meant to be done since there's no place to put the hands between the fuel tank and bars on most sports bikes with the bars turned hard, maybe just try to control the throttle with one thumb or something.

Ocean1
8th March 2014, 11:19
You would be surprised how many would struggle to do a feet up full lock U turn.

Ohyeah, just t'other day I was severely injured by the lack of just that skill, and the failure to negotiate a full lock feet up turn's killed many a rider dead. :baby:

trustme
8th March 2014, 12:12
If you can't do the basics, that lack of basic skill shows up all through your riding.
Same instructor told me of a seminar the cops ran. When they set up a course for the riders to try, all the pillions , partners , wives went & sat on the sidelines. None of the riders felt competent or confident enough to attempt the course using the same bike & load that they were happy to go riding around the country with.

Ocean1
8th March 2014, 16:42
If you can't do the basics, that lack of basic skill shows up all through your riding.

Basic skills for what? I know a damned good trials rider that can't ride a big dirt bike for shit. A top MX oldtimer that isn't confident enough on the road to tour with the rest of his mates. My brother is very competent on big touring bikes but gave a borrowed hyper-motard back after a few miles, wasn't happy with it at all. My background is big dirt bikes and trials, but I'm a long way from figuring out best practice on any typical road bike. I can slap my KTM against it's steering stop and ride it round a circle with barely a second thought, a lot less confident on the Buell.

It's almost as if some of the skills that make up the competencies above are mutually exclusive, and mere mortals can't encompass the whole set. I do know a few guys with a comfortable majority of the various skill sets, and whereas I once found riding circles on full lock a handy trick most of them wouldn't consider it anything like any required basic skill.

BoristheBiter
8th March 2014, 17:16
I can slap my KTM against it's steering stop and ride it round a circle with barely a second thought, a lot less confident on the Buell.

, and whereas I once found riding circles on full lock a handy trick most of them wouldn't consider it anything like any required basic skill.

Yep, that is how i warm up before every dirt ride but no way i'm going to try that that on the gixxer.

nzspokes
8th March 2014, 19:21
Yep, that is how i warm up before every dirt ride but no way i'm going to try that that on the gixxer.

Full lock, crack it wide.:shifty:

Dont forget to video it.