Watch the news - B777 missing

[Waihou Thumper]

Malaysian Airlines B777-200

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/21881451/malaysia-airlines-hunts-for-missing-plane/

No....Lost over Vietnamese airspace...
With technology these days, lost means.....?

Thoughts with all....
Having flown on these as crew, delivered the first to New Zealand 28th October 2005 from Seattle...
This gave me goose bumps...:(

[Scouse]

Yet another reason not to fly on a plane that is operated by people who's eye's are not wide open.

[SMOKEU]

Sounds like it was a catastrophic failure of the airframe, like an explosive decompression or some shit as no mayday was sent out, nor squawking the emergency code. It looks like it happened after levelling out at FL350. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog

I've been following this thread too. (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-mh370-contact-lost.html)

[Waihou Thumper]

Sounds like it was a catastrophic failure of the airframe, like an explosive decompression or some shit as no mayday was sent out, nor squawking the emergency code. It looks like it happened after levelling out at FL350. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog

I've been following this thread too. (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-mh370-contact-lost.html)


Thanks for the link...
It can happen...anxious wait for all. But we know...:(

[Waihou Thumper]

Yet another reason not to fly on a plane that is operated by people who's eye's are not wide open.


You sir are a fuckwit! You will find that a lot of all the worlds Airlines have multi national Pilots and crew these days...especially Malaysian, Cathay, and Emirates..
Get out of your Cave, dim wit! :tugger:

[Waihou Thumper]

If they were safely in the ground we'd know by now.

Come on people - think about it - a 777 landing at even a remote airfield - no radio messages, not one person having a working phone....



playback starting at about 17:15 UTC. MAS370 is the one sorta midway between Malaysia and the closest part of Vietnam. Its at 35,000 on heading 25 until 17:19 (01:19 local), then it goes to zero feet. Radar coverage is good in the area.

Where the plane is (generally) is not the question. What caused it to get there is the question. Sorry. That plane is not on the ground anywhere.

Also, airlines don't call next of kin if they think there's any hope.


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[SMOKEU]

If they were safely in the ground we'd know by now.

Come on people - think about it - a 777 landing at even a remote airfield - no radio messages, not one person having a working phone....

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Yahoo is saying that the Vietnamese Navy "have confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean". (http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html)

There are reports the aircraft involved was involved in a previous minor accident while taxiing.

[SMOKEU]

If they were safely in the ground we'd know by now.

Come on people - think about it - a 777 landing at even a remote airfield - no radio messages, not one person having a working phone....



playback starting at about 17:15 UTC. MAS370 is the one sorta midway between Malaysia and the closest part of Vietnam. Its at 35,000 on heading 25 until 17:19 (01:19 local), then it goes to zero feet. Radar coverage is good in the area.

Where the plane is (generally) is not the question. What caused it to get there is the question. Sorry. That plane is not on the ground anywhere.

Also, airlines don't call next of kin if they think there's any hope.


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I'd be interested to see the radar coverage of that, if there was an inflight breakup it should be pretty clear.

[Waihou Thumper]

and media...
It seems they have already released names and DOB and pilot hours etc to the world WAY before any confirmation...
Somehow leaked.....
Yeah right...

[gammaguy]

Sounds like it was a catastrophic failure of the airframe, like an explosive decompression or some shit as no mayday was sent out, nor squawking the emergency code. It looks like it happened after levelling out at FL350. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog

I've been following this thread too. (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-mh370-contact-lost.html)

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

[Laava]

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

Cooooool! Instant conspiracy!

[Waihou Thumper]

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday...:) Nice one! :niceone:

[PrincessBandit]

There are reports the aircraft involved was involved in a previous minor accident while taxiing.

It wasn't "minor". The wing was damaged.

[Scouse]

You sir are a fuckwit! You will find that a lot of all the worlds Airlines have multi national Pilots and crew these days...especially Malaysian, Cathay, and Emirates..
Get out of your Cave, dim wit! :tugger:No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

[Waihou Thumper]

No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Based on what? From your post, you are basing it on someones looks, nationality and really just forming a stereotype.....hate to have drinks with you in Shanghai mate!

Back it up....
As I said....

Spock had pointed ears and Kirk still trusted him....to the end. !

Nuff said, maybe open both eyes next time you park at the air bridge.....:bleh:

[Mort]

No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Bollocks. Malaysia air has a 5 star safety & service record. Better than air nz. How the hell do you know what happened.

[gammaguy]

Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday...:) Nice one! :niceone:



I am an engineer, as such reasonably logical

The only way a plane disappears is when there is a sudden or catastrophic failure of all communication or a sudden or catastrophic failure of the structure.

Any other scenarios would have initiated communication between pilot and traffic control and /or home base

Either we are not being told the whole story or things went wrong so fast no one on board had time to react

[MisterD]

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

It's being reported that the Italian and Austrian passengers on the list are safe and well and had previously had passports stolen in Thailand...are we thinking the 'T' word yet?

[Berries]

are we thinking the 'T' word yet?
T-girls?


.....

[SMOKEU]

such as what would happen if a bomb went off?

Yes.


Cooooool! Instant conspiracy!

Could be.


Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday...:) Nice one! :niceone:



They have smoke detectors fitted, and fire suppression equipment. Even with a fire there's still enough redundant communications to communicate with ATC.


It wasn't "minor". The wing was damaged.

Minor compared to a hull loss.


No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Sweet. What do you fly?

[PrincessBandit]

Minor compared to a hull loss.



But not necessarily insignificant, which is what "minor" implies.

[SMOKEU]

But not necessarily insignificant, which is what "minor" implies.

Time will tell I guess...

[PrincessBandit]

Time will tell I guess...

Indeed. Also in terms of two passengers apparently traveling on stolen passports, only time will reveal whether that was a factor.
Who knows until the experts have been able to complete their investigations. Just sad all round that the actions of some can have a devastating effect on all on board an aircraft. (And those "some" could be maintenance personnel,passengers with a grudge or mission ...) Oil slicks of up to 15km long don't sound good though.

[jellywrestler]

Oil slicks of up to 15km long don't sound good though.

well that probably means it didn't run out of oil...

[Laava]

Yep, is a bit sad and probably, from 35,000feet they aren,t looking for survivors.

[Akzle]

It's being reported that the Italian and Austrian passengers on the list are safe and well and had previously had passports stolen in Thailand...are we thinking the 'T' word yet?

i think you mean the 'j' word.
Just, the js will blame it on the ts.
Probably chrimean ts. Better give them some democracy...

[Naki Rat]

.....
I've been following this thread too. (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-mh370-contact-lost.html)Holy shit. I thought KB had a fair helping of keyboard experts but we're amateurs compared to these guys!! :shit:

[SMOKEU]

Holy shit. I thought KB had a fair helping of keyboard experts but we're amateurs compared to these guys!! :shit:

Things get very heated on there with all the "experts", many of whom are armchair pilots, with quite a few real pilots mixed in. It's funny reading about some of the stuff that happens in the cockpit that the passengers don't know about.

Here's a thread about drunk pax. (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/525351-dealing-drunk-passengers.html)

[Tigadee]

Yet another reason not to fly on a plane that is operated by people who's eye's are not wide open.

Fuck you, round eye! These days there's as much chance the pilots are caucasians as they'd be other nationalities, especially long haul routes...


No it you that's the fuckwit. I am just a realist who has been flying aircraft for almost 40 years and seen shit during those 40 years that allows me to form certain opinions.

Yeah sure, the majority of air crashes in the history of commercial aviation can be attributed to pilot error of the slant-eyed kind... :facepalm:

Besides, they're investigating two suspicious passengers who embarked with false passports.

[avgas]

Yet another reason not to fly on a plane that is operated by people who's eye's are not wide open.
erm - how would you know.
Most people don't see pilots. Which is why they can get on the plane drunk in NZ.....

[SMOKEU]

erm - how would you know.
Most people don't see pilots. Which is why they can get on the plane drunk in NZ.....

And the USA too, like America West 556. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_West_Airlines_Flight_556)

[avgas]

And the USA too, like America West 556. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_West_Airlines_Flight_556)
and then some.

Which is why I refer back to my previous comment. At least the Asian guy studied to be a pilot. Get him to sit on a few phone books and he is fine.

[Scouse]

Fuck you, round eye!Don't you mean "Fluck you Lound eye"?

[5150]

Maybe, or the fuselage failing, sudden decompression or even a fire? Or some panic stricken PAX went berserk, OR Aliens.....
Yip, you can have a job at CSI anyday...:) Nice one! :niceone:



Any of those scenarios still would have given time to hit the "panic button"

Sudden explosion (like the one on the Lockerbie crash) would not give the pilots any time to put out May Day call

[pete376403]

A question about the transponder - I've seen references (not necessarily referring to this flight) "the transponder can be turned off from in the cockpit". Why would the crew ever want to do that?
(I'm assuming that the transponder normally is continuously sending out a aircraft ID and location signal)

[SMOKEU]

A question about the transponder - I've seen references (not necessarily referring to this flight) "the transponder can be turned off from in the cockpit". Why would the crew ever want to do that?
(I'm assuming that the transponder normally is continuously sending out a aircraft ID and location signal)

Well, it can be done as in Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Flight_1907) when an Embraer Legacy N600XL had a mid air collision with the Gol 737 after the Embraer accidentally turned the transponder off. No transponder = no TCAS. You can see why transponders have to remain operative during commercial flights, but I can't think of a legit reason to turn it off during flight unless the transponder is faulty and ATC requests the flight crew to switch if off. It would get turned off on the ground though, and be turned on before the flight commences.

The aircraft can still be tracked on radar without the transponder.

[Tigadee]

Don't you mean "Fluck you Lound eye"?

Plecisery!

[5150]

Well, it can be done as in Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gol_Transportes_A%C3%A9reos_Flight_1907) when an Embraer Legacy N600XL had a mid air collision with the Gol 737 after the Embraer accidentally turned the transponder off. No transponder = no TCAS. You can see why transponders have to remain operative during commercial flights, but I can't think of a legit reason to turn it off during flight unless the transponder is faulty and ATC requests the flight crew to switch if off. It would get turned off on the ground though, and be turned on before the flight commences.

The aircraft can still be tracked on radar without the transponder.

Aircraft can still be seen on radar without the transponder being turned on. But the radar reading does not identify the aircraft other then a blip on the screen. Transponder gives the aircrafts ID as well as its altitude and speed. Pilots will use a squawk number for identification. Transponder can only be turned on and off on the plane (not on the ground) Generally if it malfunctions durring the flight, ATC will ask the pilots to check it or squawk a number back. Sometimes they will even ask you to confirm that it is on and set to the correct assigned squawk number.

However pilots can use the transponders to squawk emergency or May Day signal if radio can not be used. Good example will be if the aircraft is hijacked and pilots don't want to use the radios, they will squawk the distress signal via aircrafts transponder. Usually the hijackers will demand that the transponder be turned off so the plane can not be tracked. But it will still show up as an identified signal on the radar screen.

[Dave h]

This is getting well into the wtf zone now, I thought that the sat images that china released today would clear this up plus the location of said images does tie in to the sighting from the kiwi on the oil rig when taking time and tide flows into question.

But no http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-131.html

[Akzle]

im awed by the amount of internet being wasted discussing this.

Who gives a fuck?
Plane gone. Happened before, will happen again. Bermuda and shit.

[SMOKEU]

im awed by the amount of internet being wasted discussing this.

Who gives a fuck?
Plane gone. Happened before, will happen again. Bermuda and shit.

It's not "wasted" bandwidth/time. A large jetliner that is a real workhorse the world over for many large carriers has simply disappeared. It's only fair that people demand answers.

[Berries]

Plane gone.
Or has it................................................ .............................

[Tigadee]

No mayday, disappeared off radar in the blink of an eye, no terrorist connections/claims of responsibility, no wreckage or debris, no traces...

http://matthershberger.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/aliens-meme.jpg

[oneblackflag]

No mayday, disappeared off radar in the blink of an eye, no terrorist connections/claims of responsibility, no wreckage or debris, no traces...

[IMG]
+1 I'm not saying it was Aliens.... But, it was Aliens

[u4ea]

UMMM:wait: not sure if this has been posted but food for thought o yee clever ones ........:yes:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/

[avgas]

5 hours of extra flight telemetry data off the RR engines after it lost radar, I doubt the engines would have survived the impact.
So where did it go?

Apparently a few of the phones could still receive calls a few days ago.

[Woodman]

Lost..........................

[avgas]

WILSON!!!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zCl46BlT4_I/RfUNFZhweAI/AAAAAAAACQA/-9RNLjLS1BA/s1600-h/castaway-7loseswilson.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zCl46BlT4_I/RfUNFZhweAI/AAAAAAAACQA/-9RNLjLS1BA/s1600-h/castaway-7loseswilson.jpg)

[Laava]

Lost..........................


WILSON!!!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zCl46BlT4_I/RfUNFZhweAI/AAAAAAAACQA/-9RNLjLS1BA/s1600-h/castaway-7loseswilson.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zCl46BlT4_I/RfUNFZhweAI/AAAAAAAACQA/-9RNLjLS1BA/s1600-h/castaway-7loseswilson.jpg)

Haha! Watch out for those polar bears!

[Banditbandit]

http://regretfulmorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/im-not-saying-it-was-aliens.jpg

[Scouse]

No mayday, disappeared off radar in the blink of an eye, no terrorist connections/claims of responsibility, no wreckage or debris, no traces...
Aliens
Yes Flying the bloody plane like I said in my first post.

[rustyrobot]

Flight 370 disappears on 3/7 while reportedly traveling 3,700 km. Flight 370 flew at an altitude of 37,000 feet when it was last reported using flight tracking software. Luigi Maraldi, age 37, was one of the individuals whose passport was stolen. Malaysia Airlines is one of Asia’s largest, flying nearly 37,000 passengers daily. As of today, we are beginning the 37th month since the Fukushima tragedy, which is located on the 37th degree and initially caused 37 injuries at the plant.

Also, wikipedia says that 37 is the number most people state when asked to give a random number between 0 and 100.

So, yeah, Aliens - the truth is obvious once it's all laid out right.

(Of course I haven't checked any of those "facts")

[Paul in NZ]

Oh well at least its more interesting than 911 conspiracy theories but I'm thinking the poor buggers on the plane were not thinking that...

[5150]

Flight 370 disappears on 3/7 while reportedly traveling 3,700 km. Flight 370 flew at an altitude of 37,000 feet when it was last reported using flight tracking software. Luigi Maraldi, age 37, was one of the individuals whose passport was stolen. Malaysia Airlines is one of Asia’s largest, flying nearly 37,000 passengers daily. As of today, we are beginning the 37th month since the Fukushima tragedy, which is located on the 37th degree and initially caused 37 injuries at the plant.

Also, wikipedia says that 37 is the number most people state when asked to give a random number between 0 and 100.

So, yeah, Aliens - the truth is obvious once it's all laid out right.

(Of course I haven't checked any of those "facts")

You got at least two wrong. Flight level was actually FL350.
Also distance from Kuala Lumper to Benjing (flying distance) is 4333kms, so i doubt that in 40 minutes from take off he would have covered 3700kms and the flight time is usually 6 hours.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

Might want all of your facts verified before posting shit up here

[rustyrobot]

You got at least one wrong. Flight level was actually FL350.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

Might want all of your facts verified before posting shit up here

I was only posting it because it was shit - obviously didn't make that clear enough.

Just getting in before the foil-hat brigade.

[Swoop]

An interesting post on PPRuNe:

The flight aware app shows flight filed duration 5 hours 36 minutes and the actual route stops short on land

Interesting IF true, as this would place it in china somewhere.

[5150]

I was only posting it because it was shit

Couldn't expect anything less of a KB forum.

As you were then :)

[Paul in NZ]

An interesting post on PPRuNe:

The flight aware app shows flight filed duration 5 hours 36 minutes and the actual route stops short on land

Interesting IF true, as this would place it in china somewhere.


Expect a flood of 777 copies on DHGate tomorrow...

[ellipsis]

Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.

Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders.

Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)

If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will.

If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.

That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ??

Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.

Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.

As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.

Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs.

However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved.

Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent holders declared deceased.

...no I will not post links verifying this shit, 'cos it sounds about as likely as aliens ...but it may assist others who wish to while away big parts of their lives, staring at a screen, chasing erroneous facts, to feel a little more like Maxwell Smart or Mister Spock...

[Akzle]

Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent holders declared deceased.


fukem juuuuuuws. Knew it.
Itsa wonder it wasnt "hijacked by ukranians" and flown into buildings for extra media mileage.

[scrivy]

Interesting that the US are now going to conduct a search in the Indian Ocean from new info from an undisclosed source....

Would that undisclosed source be from a nuclear submarine? Surely they would have heard a crash/splash into the ocean, or at least the black box ping....?
Remember, they can hear whales fucking hundreds of miles away, and can hear rain falling on the ocean surface way underneath it.
Im picking the US have made their subs rewind and listen to their recording systems around the time 5 hours later than originally thought....
They just don't wanna say they had a nuclear sub in a certain area....... :shit:

[awa355]

It does seem strange that the plane may have deviated back across Malaya, Thailand towards the Indian ocean and no buggar saw or heard anything with todays electronic systems.

[scrivy]

It does seem strange that the plane may have deviated back across Malaya, Thailand towards the Indian ocean and no buggar saw or heard anything with todays electronic systems.

How many primary radars are there in that area?? Surely there is a broad coverage.......??

[Dave h]

This is the best place for info in my opinion, http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-157.html

It's modded hard out so you wont see the "not saying it's aliens..." meme etc or other tin foil hat type stuff.

A lot of the posters are pilots or involved in the industry in some way.

[Hinny]

I wonder how many of the passengers and crew had the fish for dinner.

[SMOKEU]

This reminds me of Helios flight 522. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522)

[Berries]

I wonder how many of the passengers and crew had the fish for dinner.
They all had it for supper.

[avgas]

It's in China. That's why Malaysia are keeping their mouth shut.

More importantly - why is it in china?

[gammaguy]

I wonder how many of the passengers and crew had the fish for dinner.

Then the fish had them for breakfast

[Scouse]

I was only posting it because it was shit - obviously didn't make that clear enough.

Just getting in before the foil-hat brigade.Was clear enough for me the op must have had an irony bypass.

[Hinny]

Then the fish had them for breakfast

Could well be sleeping with them.

[R650R]

Interesting that the US are now going to conduct a search in the Indian Ocean from new info from an undisclosed source....

Would that undisclosed source be from a nuclear submarine? Surely they would have heard a crash/splash into the ocean, or at least the black box ping....?
Remember, they can hear whales fucking hundreds of miles away, and can hear rain falling on the ocean surface way underneath it.
Im picking the US have made their subs rewind and listen to their recording systems around the time 5 hours later than originally thought....
They just don't wanna say they had a nuclear sub in a certain area....... :shit:

Well you know what's in the Indian Ocean... clue it has a big runway and good security to keep prying eyes out...
It's interesting reading all the twists and turns (sic) when something weird like this happens in a foreign land and the powers that be cant pre-script the media...
You don't just lose a large plane in an area where most of the countries are ready to go to war with their neighbours at a moments notice. The transponder doesn't matter, their would have been more than one civilian and military radars tracking this plane, from land, sea and air platforms.
Someone wanted that plane for other uses or someone that was on it.

[Tazz]

<img src="http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQy8sSWap3pqZcL8OQTASHVM5oe1Mqfv 76wp378q1j1hNMBkded" height="500" width="600">

[FJRider]

Well you know what's in the Indian Ocean... clue it has a big runway and good security to keep prying eyes out...
It's interesting reading all the twists and turns (sic) when something weird like this happens in a foreign land and the powers that be cant pre-script the media...
You don't just lose a large plane in an area where most of the countries are ready to go to war with their neighbours at a moments notice. The transponder doesn't matter, their would have been more than one civilian and military radars tracking this plane, from land, sea and air platforms.


You mean this place .. ??

https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?q=Diego+Garcia+Military+Base,+British+Indian+ Ocean+Territory&hl=en&ll=-7.331481,72.421875&spn=0.272412,0.308647&sll=-40.799894,175.310128&sspn=52.609227,79.013672&oq=Diageo+Garcia&t=h&hq=Military+Base,+British+Indian+Ocean+Territory&hnear=Diego+Garcia&z=12

Military only worry about known or possible threats. Obvious non military and not acting unusually ... won't attract attention.

Even from civilian radar stations.

[pritch]

You mean this place .. ??



There's also Cocos Keeling which used to be a routine fuelling stop in the age of piston engined airliners. Not sure if that's within the theoretical fuel range of this flight though.
Although I think one of the reports said they could reach Australia? They did A bomb testing from Christmas Island too but I don't know that a runway that could handle a Canberra could handle a 777.

[rustyrobot]

Well - f**k me. Looks like the most logical solution wasn't the correct one.

Investigators have concluded that one or more people with significant flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, switched off communication devices and steered it off-course, a Malaysian government official involved in the investigation said Saturday.

No motive has been established and no demands have been made known, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to brief the media.

The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory.

‘‘It is conclusive,’’ he said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9831232/Missing-plane-was-hijacked

[Dave h]

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-190.html

WTF

How long till theres a new meme like the aliens one; "I'm not saying that Borat did it...but"

[SMOKEU]

The mystery just keeps on getting stranger and stranger.

[Dave h]

From the press conference Malaysian PM

15 March 2014
PM Najib Razak’s Press Statement on MH370

Seven days ago Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared. We realise this is an excruciating time for the families of those on board. No words can describe the pain they must be going through. Our thoughts and our prayers are with them.
I have been appraised of the on-going search operation round the clock. At the beginning of the operation, I ordered the search area to be broadened; I instructed the Malaysian authorities to share all relevant information freely and transparently with the wider investigation team; and I requested that our friends and allies join the operation. As of today, 14 countries, 43 ships and 58 aircraft are involved in the search. I wish to thank all the governments for their help at such a crucial time.

Since day one, the Malaysian authorities have worked hand-in-hand with our international partners – including neighbouring countries, the aviation authorities and a multinational search force – many of whom have been here on the ground since Sunday.

We have shared information in real time with authorities who have the necessary experience to interpret the data. We have been working nonstop to assist the investigation. And we have put our national security second to the search for the missing plane.

It is widely understood that this has been a situation without precedent.
We have conducted search operations over land, in the South China Sea, the Straits of Malacca, the Andaman Sea and the Indian Ocean. At every stage, we acted on the basis of verified information, and we followed every credible lead. Sometimes these leads have led nowhere.

There has been intense speculation. We understand the desperate need for information on behalf of the families and those watching around the world. But we have a responsibility to the investigation and the families to only release information that has been corroborated. And our primary motivation has always been to find the plane.

In the first phase of the search operation, we searched near MH370’s last known position, in the South China Sea. At the same time, it was brought to our attention by the Royal Malaysian Air Force that, based on their primary radar, an aircraft – the identity of which could not be confirmed – made a turn back. The primary radar data showed the aircraft proceeding on a flight path which took it to an area north of the Straits of Malacca.

Given this credible data, which was subsequently corroborated with the relevant international authorities, we expanded the area of search to include the Straits of Malacca and, later, to the Andaman Sea.

Early this morning I was briefed by the investigation team – which includes the FAA, NTSB, the AAIB, the Malaysian authorities and the Acting Minister of Transport – on new information that sheds further light on what happened to MH370.

Based on new satellite information, we can say with a high degree of certainty that the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was disabled just before the aircraft reached the East coast of peninsular Malaysia. Shortly afterwards, near the border between Malaysian and Vietnamese air traffic control, the aircraft’s transponder was switched off.

From this point onwards, the Royal Malaysian Air Force primary radar showed that an aircraft which was believed – but not confirmed – to be MH370 did indeed turn back. It then flew in a westerly direction back over peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane.

Today, based on raw satellite data that was obtained from the satellite data service provider, we can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was flight MH370. After much forensic work and deliberation, the FAA, NTSB, AAIB and the Malaysian authorities, working separately on the same data, concur.
According to the new data, the last confirmed communication between the plane and the satellite was at 8:11AM Malaysian time on Saturday 8th March. The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact. This will help us to refine the search.

Due to the type of satellite data, we are unable to confirm the precise location of the plane when it last made contact with the satellite.

However, based on this new data, the aviation authorities of Malaysia and their international counterparts have determined that the plane’s last communication with the satellite was in one of two possible corridors: a northern corridor stretching approximately from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan to northern Thailand, or a southern corridor stretching approximately from Indonesia to the southern Indian ocean. The investigation team is working to further refine the information.

In view of this latest development the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board. Despite media reports that the plane was hijacked, I wish to be very clear: we are still investigating all possibilities as to what caused MH370 to deviate from its original flight path.
This new satellite information has a significant impact on the nature and scope of the search operation. We are ending our operations in the South China Sea and reassessing the redeployment of our assets. We are working with the relevant countries to request all information relevant to the search, including radar data.
As the two new corridors involve many countries, the relevant foreign embassies have been invited to a briefing on the new information today by the Malaysian Foreign Ministry and the technical experts. I have also instructed the Foreign Ministry to provide a full briefing to foreign governments which had passengers on the plane. This morning, Malaysia Airlines has been informing the families of the passengers and crew of these new developments.

Clearly, the search for MH370 has entered a new phase. Over the last seven days, we have followed every lead and looked into every possibility. For the families and friends of those involved, we hope this new information brings us one step closer to finding the plane.
ENDS

TL,DR... plane did not crash after first reported loss of contact, it continued to fly for quite some time.

[JimO]

nearly everybody on that plane would have a cell phone surly somebody would have got a message out by now, even the old "find my iphone" trick should work

[R650R]

You mean this place .. ??

https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?q=Diego+Garcia+Military+Base,+British+Indian+ Ocean+Territory&hl=en&ll=-7.331481,72.421875&spn=0.272412,0.308647&sll=-40.799894,175.310128&sspn=52.609227,79.013672&oq=Diageo+Garcia&t=h&hq=Military+Base,+British+Indian+Ocean+Territory&hnear=Diego+Garcia&z=12

Military only worry about known or possible threats. Obvious non military and not acting unusually ... won't attract attention.

Even from civilian radar stations.

I spent some time working on a USAFE base during GWII. There is no one more paranoid and no one that takes their job more seriously than the military, everything is a threat to them.
A large aircraft losing its transponder signal then making a major course deviation would be enough to wake the base commander of whatever station or vessel noticing.

Well the truth is starting to come out now, wonder how the saga will end...

Remember this is the post 911 world where unidentified aircraft just don't fly into any countries territory and even before 911 the USAF intercepted some 64 flights in the 9 months prior that were off course or lost comms, the most famous being the golfer who had heart attack in private plane on autopilot.
This is a black op of some kind gone wrong and with a 120 odd Chinese citizens on board the Malaysians aren't willing to be left hanging out to dry...

[pritch]

even the old "find my iphone" trick should work

If the person who owned the iPhone wasn't on the 'plane? Of course, if they had a Macbook or iPad at home... Then again, their phones should all be in flight mode.

There was talk that the passengers' phones were ringing, but that's apparently just the way the phone system works.

[Waihou Thumper]

nearly everybody on that plane would have a cell phone surly somebody would have got a message out by now, even the old "find my iphone" trick should work


Telecommunications experts say the odds that passengers' cellphone data can help locate the missing Malaysian jetliner are next to zero.
Locating the mobile phones of the 239 travelers on the Boeing 777 that vanished Saturday isn't as simple as activating a "Find My iPhone" app, given the speed the plane was traveling, its altitude and the fact it was probably flying over water. Many people assume smartphones to be all-powerful tracking devices. Often police, rescue units and others can use a person's phone to pinpoint the user's precise location. Even so, there are large portions of the planet that don't have the transmission towers that are necessary for mobile communications. In the case of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, smartphones are unlikely to lead investigators to the plane.

[jellywrestler]

Telecommunications experts say the odds that passengers' cellphone data can help locate the missing Malaysian jetliner are next to zero.
Locating the mobile phones of the 239 travelers on the Boeing 777 that vanished Saturday isn't as simple as activating a "Find My iPhone" app, given the speed the plane was traveling, its altitude and the fact it was probably flying over water. Many people assume smartphones to be all-powerful tracking devices. Often police, rescue units and others can use a person's phone to pinpoint the user's precise location. Even so, there are large portions of the planet that don't have the transmission towers that are necessary for mobile communications. In the case of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, smartphones are unlikely to lead investigators to the plane.


nice orange crayons, you had a birthday this week of month?

[R650R]

Telecommunications experts say the odds that passengers' cellphone data can help locate the missing Malaysian jetliner are next to zero.



Next to zero is not absolute zero though.
Now we all know after the recent NSA debacle that they are recording EVERYTHING ever transmitted via cellphone and email etc...
Now even though phones may be switched off and most people probably did the right thing and put their phone in flight mode, some of the phones will still have been sending an administrative ping to the network like the Rolls Royce engine management system was. The telcos store this data for admin and market research purposes, data storage is very cheap. Police here have used it in fatal crashes for rough estimates of vehicles average speed when no other witnesses available. Its not an easy process though so that's why they wont do it for personal theft or burglary cases etc...
So where ever the plane was taken too there would have been pings to local cell towers from some of the phones...
Back to the engines, I reckon during the sharp deviation and big decents and climbs recorded by the military radar the engine data would have recorded use outside of normal parameters and transmitted a message before the Malaysians even knew it was missing. Even the latest trucks send a text message to dealership and owner if engine abused or if the truck rollsover they know before anyone even phones 111.
If the plane had crashed the EPIRBS in liferafts would have activated too.
Like any crime the actions of perp create a signature, modius operandi etc...
So who can:
1-Disable transponder
2-Jam civilian radar but deliberatly not the military one as that would give game away instantly
3-Have somewhere to park a 777 where no prying eyes will see or talk about its arrival
4-Stands to benefit from the situation
5-Tell a high ranking member of military to retract their statement they tracked the plane for another whole hour after missing

And after the event for possible destinations - The USAF would have the west well covered by AWACS for Deigo, Afganistan and Pakistan areas, nothing unannounced is going to get near China or Korea also.
There's too many important eyes on the skies in this area for a plane to just disappear...
Anyone whose ever flown into this area will have seen how busy the shipping lanes are here too.

[Akzle]

So who can:
1-Disable transponder
2-Jam civilian radar but deliberatly not the military one as that would give game away instantly
3-Have somewhere to park a 777 where no prying eyes will see or talk about its arrival
4-Stands to benefit from the situation
5-Tell a high ranking member of military to retract their statement they tracked the plane for another whole hour after missing



jews. From the jew s of a.

The question still remains why.
Unfortunately two hunnit civvies might be killed for the one or two they wanted.
But hey. Wtc.

Anyone ever get the feeling the government stole your chickens and replaced them with spy robots?

[Waihou Thumper]

nice orange crayons, you had a birthday this week of month?

You obviously failed English...?
Make sense, then I will reply...:msn-wink:

[pzkpfw]

There was a case a bunch of years back, where the hijackers didn't believe the pilots about fuel levels and range, and they had to ditch in the water near some resort. I'm sure most of us have seen the video.

In this case, if it was hijackers, they seem to have known what they were doing, so I'd be surprised if they just flew half-way somewhere and - oops - landed in the sea.

But I also can't believe they flew somewhere and landed without someone (someone willing to blab) seeing it.

So my money (not that I'd bet on this) is on dirty-pilot-got-busted and went and flew into the sea on purpose.

[rustyrobot]

There was a case a bunch of years back, where the hijackers didn't believe the pilots about fuel levels and range, and they had to ditch in the water near some resort. I'm sure most of us have seen the video.

In this case, if it was hijackers, they seem to have known what they were doing, so I'd be surprised if they just flew half-way somewhere and - oops - landed in the sea.

But I also can't believe they flew somewhere and landed without someone (someone willing to blab) seeing it.

So my money (not that I'd bet on this) is on dirty-pilot-got-busted and went and flew into the sea on purpose.

I agree with what you say about anyone who was technically competent enough to disable the systems they did in the order they did could probably work out how much fuel they would need to get where ever they thought they were going.

The issue I have with pilot suicide is that he didn't need to go to such lengths just to kill himself. Could have ditched it into the see on the original flight route without all the dodging and weaving over and around radar sites.

I do think odds are the plane is now under the Indian Ocean, but haven't heard a theory of why yet which satisfies.

[pzkpfw]

...
The issue I have with pilot suicide is that he didn't need to go to such lengths just to kill himself. Could have ditched it into the see on the original flight route without all the dodging and weaving over and around radar sights.
...

Best I could come up with for that was - deliberately making it hard to find/recover.

(Of course that suits many of the ideas.)

[FJRider]

I spent some time working on a USAFE base during GWII. There is no one more paranoid and no one that takes their job more seriously than the military, everything is a threat to them.
A large aircraft losing its transponder signal then making a major course deviation would be enough to wake the base commander of whatever station or vessel noticing.

Well the truth is starting to come out now, wonder how the saga will end...



My thinking to that ...

If it was such a threat ... Why didn't they watch it to see where it went. My guess is .. it passed by/avoided them ... and they lost interest/contact.

Truth ... ??? if the truth was known ... they'd know exactly where to find it. They may not even want to admit knowing where it is ... if they don't want the wrong people to know they know.

[awa355]

" All on board missing Boeing 777 now under scrutiny "

They really are running around like headless chooks. Although it would be natural to fine scan the backgrounds of all the passengers and crew.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9831232/All-on-board-missing-Boeing-777-now-under-scrutiny

[Swoop]

Well the truth is starting to come out now, wonder how the saga will end...

Remember this is the post 911 world ... and with a 120 odd Chinese citizens on board ...
Paraphrased a little...
However. Has anyone thought of the types of circumstances that could potentially start a war? A big war?
Stuff like this would be constitute opening moves, if so desired by the players involved.
Anyone noticed how the Chinese media are amping things up?

[rustyrobot]

Paraphrased a little...
However. Has anyone thought of the types of circumstances that could potentially start a war? A big war?
Stuff like this would be constitute opening moves, if so desired by the players involved.
Anyone noticed how the Chinese media are amping things up?

That's an interesting proposition - but who are you suggesting the players are? And what's their game?

If you're suggesting (and I know I'm making a leap here because I'm not really sure) that it's a false-flag type situation intended to give China the mandate for an assault of some sort - who would they need an excuse to attack? The nations that they have enmity with (Japan, Taiwan) are hardly likely to pull a hijacking manoeuvre, and it's not like China would need something of this level as a justification for further imposing upon the Uighurs.

On the other hand if you mean it is a legitimate attack on China - who would go about it in this fashion?

I think that the actual claim of responsibility from the Uighurs has possibility. They have a large number of ex-pat fighters based in Pakistan and the plane could have been redirected that way and failed mid-flight for some reason. Or been shot down by some govt who are now desperately trying to cover it up.

Either way - it's gonna make some conspiracy theorists some good cash in dodgy book sales.

[Akzle]

That's an interesting proposition - but who are you suggesting the players are? And what's their game?

If you're suggesting (and I know I'm making a leap here because I'm not really sure) that it's a false-flag type situation intended to give China the mandate for an assault of some sort - who would they need an excuse to attack? The nations that they have enmity with (Japan, Taiwan) are hardly likely to pull a hijacking manoeuvre, and it's not like China would need something of this level as a justification for further imposing up the Uighurs.

On the other hand if you mean it is a legitimate attack on China - who would go about it in this fashion?

I think that the actual claim of responsibility from the Uighur's has possibility. They have a large number of ex-pat fighters based in Pakistan and the plain could have been redirected that way and failed mid-flight for some reason. Or been shot down by some govt who are now desperately trying to cover it up.

Either way - it's gonna make some conspiracy theorists some good cash in dodgy book sales.

fuck you are just-too-muchery. Send us a clone of what youre smoking cuz

[rustyrobot]

fuck you are just-too-muchery. Send us a clone of what youre smoking cuz

I'm telling you - after the fourth bucket bong it all makes sense.

Love to hear what you think has happened to the plane.

[scrivy]

D-I-E-G-O G-A-R-C-I-A..... that's where it is.
What happened back in November last year in the US? Didn't a nuclear warhead get shipped interstate without authorisation?
Where do you think it went?? I bet it's been shipped to Diego Garcia (where all the US bombers are) to be fitted to a re-painted 777.....
There's another false flag event to be had very soon.......

[Kickaha]

D-I-E-G-O G-A-R-C-I-A..... that's where it is.
What happened back in November last year in the US? Didn't a nuclear warhead get shipped interstate without authorisation?
Where do you think it went?? I bet it's been shipped to Diego Garcia (where all the US bomber are) to be fitted to a re-painted 777.....
There's another false flag event to be had very soon.......

I'm up your way next week, sounds like I better bring you some more tin foil hats

[scrivy]

I'm up your way next week, sounds like I better bring you some more tin foil hats

Well Kick, it aint crashed, cause there's no homing signals from the black boxes.......
Now what?

[SMOKEU]

Well Kick, it aint crashed, cause there's no homing signals from the black boxes.......
Now what?

Well, if they haven't binned it, then where the fuck is the plane?

[Akzle]

Love to hear what you think has happened to the plane.

unlike everyone else here, i have no idea.
More. I dont give a fuck.

I do suspect foul play by jews. But i suspect them of everything, and by definition, it was.

[Kickaha]

Well Kick, it aint crashed, cause there's no homing signals from the black boxes.......
Now what?

The signals have limited range, dont travel well underwater and they have no idea where to even look

[Akzle]

Well, if they haven't binned it, then where the fuck is the plane?

a boat named USS... Wait, no must be ukranians.

[Woodman]

D-I-E-G-O G-A-R-C-I-A..... that's where it is.
What happened back in November last year in the US? Didn't a nuclear warhead get shipped interstate without authorisation?
Where do you think it went?? I bet it's been shipped to Diego Garcia (where all the US bomber are) to be fitted to a re-painted 777.....
There's another false flag event to be had very soon.......

Wouldn't they just buy a 777 instead of stealing one that the whole world will be looking out for?

Oh the TFWs must be inventing scenarios like crazy at the moment.

[Swoop]

That's an interesting proposition - but who are you suggesting the players are? And what's their game?

If you're suggesting (and I know I'm making a leap here because I'm not really sure) that it's a false-flag type situation intended to give China the mandate for an assault of some sort...



Either way - it's gonna make some conspiracy theorists some good cash in dodgy book sales.

Well... Any players will show their hand over time.

Perhaps not an opening gambit to war, but IF china decides to "help" in the search, then moving some people onto a remote island (which might or might not be part of a claim of all of the south china seas) and then "forgetting" to remove those people after the "search" has been concluded...
Chess.


As for conspiracy theorists... KB has a rather good one.:whistle:

[Genestho]

Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.

Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders.

Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)

If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will.

If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.

That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ??

Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.

Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.

As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.

Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs.

However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved.

Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent holders declared deceased.

...no I will not post links verifying this shit, 'cos it sounds about as likely as aliens ...but it may assist others who wish to while away big parts of their lives, staring at a screen, chasing erroneous facts, to feel a little more like Maxwell Smart or Mister Spock...

Mmm well we had some bad weather yesterday..:facepalm:

Yes it seems as if Blackstone (http://www.blackstone.com/the-firm/overview/our-people/jacob-rothschild) owned 80% of Freescale as of 2011, but.. the patent thing doesn't work out. There was a patent issued March 11 (https://www.google.com/patents/US8671381?dq=8,671,381,+B1&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YMUkU6bTJoXNkgWJsYGQCw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA), although I had read that those 4 were on the passenger manifest but were the four that didn't board, which is untrue - the names of those that didn't board don't match the patent owners names. (nor on the passenger manifest)

What I did find interesting is: March 3rd press release Freescale Releases Its First 11 RF Power Products Suitable for U.S.-Based Defense Market Applications (http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1905359&highlight)

Specifically: RF Power Solutions for Aerospace and Defense (http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=RF_PWR_AERODEF&tid=vanRFmilitary)

Could these 20 employees be sufficient enough to warrant a hi-jacking? How far would an interested party go to acquire that information?

[scrivy]

Woodman....

That would be too easy....
...and the US couldnt lay blame on another state if they didnt control it....
Google 'Operation Northwoods' and 'Gulf of Tonkin' .... they're experts at it....
Oh.... while we're at it, how many weapons of mass desfuckion did they find in Iraq?
Still, it gave them permission to obliterate it....

[rustyrobot]

Woodman....

.... while we're at it, how many weapons of mass desfuckion did they find in Iraq?
Still, it gave them permission to obliterate it....

I can't remember the exact figure, ask David Kelly (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jul/16/david-kelly-death-10-years-on).

[Woodman]

Woodman....

That would be too easy....
...and the US couldnt lay blame on another state if they didnt control it....
Google 'Operation Northwoods' and 'Gulf of Tonkin' .... they're experts at it....
Oh.... while we're at it, how many weapons of mass desfuckion did they find in Iraq?
Still, it gave them permission to obliterate it....


I dunno fuck all really, was just throwing it out there.

You know, conspiracy theories and theorists are a great ally of Governments doing dodgy stuff.

[scrivy]

I can't remember the exact figure, ask David Kelly (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jul/16/david-kelly-death-10-years-on).

Lol! Makes sense....

[R650R]

That pilot didn't top himself. Hell he was having cockpit parties with young hotties and that's just the stuff we know about... :)

[scrivy]

You know, conspiracy theories and theorists are a great ally of Governments doing dodgy stuff.


Might have been years ago, but with the internet nowadays theres millions of people informed about their deceptions that they cant hide stuff anymore. Only the mainstream media keep people in the dark....

[Kickaha]

but with the internet nowadays theres millions of people informed about their deceptions that they cant hide stuff anymore.

Yeah because everything on the internet is real and accurate :facepalm:

[SMOKEU]

That pilot didn't top himself. Hell he was having cockpit parties with young hotties and that's just the stuff we know about... :)

Plural, not singular. There were 2 pilots on the flight deck.

That's what pisses me off about the media, they spread misinformation like that by saying shit like "the pilot", when they should say "the flight crew" or "the pilots" or "the captain and F/O".

[Kickaha]

Plural, not singular. There were 2 pilots on the flight deck.

That's what pisses me off about the media, they spread misinformation like that by saying shit like "the pilot", when they should say "the flight crew" or "the pilots" or "the captain and F/O".

They should really just shut the fuck up because they don't have a clue

[Dave h]

I'm still using ockham's razor when thinking about this even as it gets stranger.

Most likely scenario is pilot suicide and he ditched in the Indian ocean as far south as he could go so as not to leave any trace.

[R650R]

Plural, not singular. There were 2 pilots on the flight deck.



There were 2 pilots on the flight deck... plus three blonde backpackers, pack of cards, hostess and a 40 ounce bottle of Wild Turkey ;)

[pritch]

They really are running around like headless chooks.

Sad as it may be, that's about the most accurate assessment we have had to date.

[scrivy]

I'm still using ockham's razor when thinking about this even as it gets stranger.


Kick could use that razor to trim the omanko brush he uses....

LOL!:rolleyes:

[Woodman]

Might have been years ago, but with the internet nowadays theres millions of people informed about their deceptions that they cant hide stuff anymore. Only the mainstream media keep people in the dark....

Was alluding to the fact that the conspiracy theorists are such boring nutbars that even if they did come across the truth nobody believes them in case they get tarred with the same brush.

Getting off topic a bit.

[scrivy]

Was alluding to the fact that the conspiracy theorists are such boring nutbars that even if they did come across the truth nobody believes them in case they get tarred with the same brush.
True that.

Sometimes they are right though... Will be interesting to see if anyone on all the websites is anywhere close to guessing what happened to mh370...


It is a mystery....

[SMOKEU]

They should really just shut the fuck up because they don't have a clue

Pretty much. The same thing happens when there's motorcycle crashes, or IT related stuff like the anti piracy laws or...


There were 2 pilots on the flight deck... plus three blonde backpackers, pack of cards, hostess and a 40 ounce bottle of Wild Turkey ;)

That could well be the case.

[pritch]

some of the phones will still have been sending an administrative ping to the network like the Rolls Royce engine management system was.

The engine info is transmitted to a satellite. The cell phones would need a cell phone tower. Probably not too many cell phone towers in either the South China Sea or the Indian Ocean.

[YellowDog]

Here's the smoking gun for you:

http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8815009/pilots-political-views-under-scrutiny

It's a well know fact that people with strong political beliefs can easily convince others (the flight crew) to see things their way :yes:

[mashman]

It is a mystery....

Due to pole shift the Bermuda Triangle has moved.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAHvajXxyRU&feature=kp

[rustyrobot]

Pretty much. The same thing happens when there's motorcycle crashes, or IT related stuff like the anti piracy laws or...


And suddenly you realise that anyone who has had anything they know or care about covered by the mainstream media is thinking the same thing. It may not be one grand coordinated lie, but it certainly is a hell of a lot of little ones.

[SMOKEU]

And suddenly you realise that anyone who has had anything they know or care about covered by the mainstream media is thinking the same thing. It may not be one grand coordinated lie, but it certainly is a hell of a lot of little ones.

I don't expect anyone to be an expert on everything. However, it's not too much to ask for journalists to do some basic fact finding first, especially if it's really simple stuff that can easily and quickly be found with nothing more than a simple Google search.

[oldrider]

Mmm well we had some bad weather yesterday..:facepalm:

Yes it seems as if Blackstone (http://www.blackstone.com/the-firm/overview/our-people/jacob-rothschild) owned 80% of Freescale as of 2011, but.. the patent thing doesn't work out. There was a patent issued March 11 (https://www.google.com/patents/US8671381?dq=8,671,381,+B1&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YMUkU6bTJoXNkgWJsYGQCw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA), although I had read that those 4 were on the passenger manifest but were the four that didn't board, which is untrue - the names of those that didn't board don't match the patent owners names. (nor on the passenger manifest)

What I did find interesting is: March 3rd press release Freescale Releases Its First 11 RF Power Products Suitable for U.S.-Based Defense Market Applications (http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1905359&highlight)

Specifically: RF Power Solutions for Aerospace and Defense (http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=RF_PWR_AERODEF&tid=vanRFmilitary)

Could these 20 employees be sufficient enough to warrant a hi-jacking? How far would an interested party go to acquire that information?

The same names keep cropping up behind majority of world canived catastrophies and financial deviance ... they are fearless of exposure! :sick:

They fear no evil because they are evil it's self! :yes:

[YellowDog]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/malaysia_zps8e7f01c6.jpg

Yes, I do know the photo's not a 777 :)

[Tigadee]

They sure do know their planes, aye? :killingme But that's a fake ad anyway...

I'm still backing the alien abduction theory... LOL Either that or Edward Snowden was secretly on that plane and the US shot it down with a stealth fighter or ship or sub.

[avgas]

Mmm well we had some bad weather yesterday..:facepalm:

Yes it seems as if Blackstone (http://www.blackstone.com/the-firm/overview/our-people/jacob-rothschild) owned 80% of Freescale as of 2011, but.. the patent thing doesn't work out. There was a patent issued March 11 (https://www.google.com/patents/US8671381?dq=8,671,381,+B1&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YMUkU6bTJoXNkgWJsYGQCw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA), although I had read that those 4 were on the passenger manifest but were the four that didn't board, which is untrue - the names of those that didn't board don't match the patent owners names. (nor on the passenger manifest)

What I did find interesting is: March 3rd press release Freescale Releases Its First 11 RF Power Products Suitable for U.S.-Based Defense Market Applications (http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1905359&highlight)

Specifically: RF Power Solutions for Aerospace and Defense (http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?code=RF_PWR_AERODEF&tid=vanRFmilitary)

Could these 20 employees be sufficient enough to warrant a hi-jacking? How far would an interested party go to acquire that information?
Unfortunately we will never know.
What we will know is Captain Ironic is sending them a transition frequency now.

Freescale is screwed - has been for many years. It's the whipping boy of Intel, National and TI. Shame really as they had some great innovated stuff way back in 2009. That is why the Blackstone investment came - it was either that, or Freescale was broken into "startups" and sold as components to In-Q-Tel. Too much USD$ invested in their stuff.

[rickstv]

The dingo did it.:shit:

[Paul in NZ]

The dingo did it.:shit:

Of course - it all makes sense now.... Flying Dingos are the only ones with all the skills and the motive... Bastards...

[Tigadee]

Of course - it all makes sense now.... Flying Dingos are the only ones with all the skills and the motive... Bastards...

Yes of course...

http://www.robertneralich.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/snoopy_flying-182x300.jpg

[oldrider]

Is that pilot Snoopy or Brian out of Family Guy? .. (Note to self: must clean specs!)

[R650R]

The engine info is transmitted to a satellite. The cell phones would need a cell phone tower. Probably not too many cell phone towers in either the South China Sea or the Indian Ocean.

One would suspect there may be some at the landing location, civilian or military... certainly wouldn't expect them to be ringing if crashed into ocean lol....

[R650R]

I don't expect anyone to be an expert on everything. However, it's not too much to ask for journalists to do some basic fact finding first, especially if it's really simple stuff that can easily and quickly be found with nothing more than a simple Google search.

There are not many real journalist left now, there are a lot of stenographers and cut and paste monkeys though. Real news gathering died a long time ago, now its all-black handbag fights or Paris Hilton backing over her dog in the driveway. No news anymore just entertainment with a dusting of what happened today and its all because they know you'll click the vid of Miley Cyrus twerking BEFORE you read about the train crash tragedy etc...

[R650R]

Well it seems the 'trusted media' is now following the conspiracy trail... and remember a conspiracy is where one or more third parties act together to make something happen...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11220825

From the horses mouth: A former intelligence officer with the CIA says the disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370 has been more skilfully executed than the 9/11 attack.

There's speculation that the plane might have landed somewhere.

Mike Scheuer told Newstalk ZB's Rachel Smalley it appears to be even more precise than 9/11.

"It's not evident that it was a suicide mission. Perhaps they have other uses for the plane if it's a terrorism attack.

"Perhaps they're going to try bargain with the West for the release of some al-Qaeda people in return for releasing the passengers who were on the plane.''

He says if it was an act of terrorism, there could be a rogue plane out there.

"Once their plane is down somewhere you can repaint it, you can put a different number on the fuselage, and if you replace some of the equipment it won't give off the identifying signal that it would give off normally.

"And then you have kind of a wild card aircraft out there.''

and... "For a commercial plane to pass undetected through these regions, which are highly militarised with robust air defence networks, many run by the US military, would require a combination of extremely sophisticated navigation, brazen audacity and security failure by those monitoring international airspace"

Now this bulldust about flying under the radar, a 777 at 5000ft would not go unnoticed visually or audio wise either. Every goat herder, fisherman and sailor would see that. Pretty sure it got flown direct to Diego or maybe Perth area military base closely shadowed by AWACS jammer flight...

[Stylo]

I've heard that a Ground crew member from MA is under scrutiny, evidently he was on board.

Yet another long shot, no doubt.

[Robbo]

You can all stop looking. It's been found.:laugh:

[mashman]

You can all stop looking. It's been found.:laugh:

The Sunday Sport... awesome rag.

[mashman]

Finally a political win from tragedy. (http://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/22017078/malaysia-mystery-shows-importance-of-five-year-passport-key/) I was getting concerned that they'd taken their foot off the pedal for a moment.

[kevfromcoro]

Its a mystery allright,,, last I heard they were searching in WA....
Who noes....
Just 1 thing,, don't these pilots get a flight plan. like fly at 40,000ft. head norf. bla bla
If they did a U turn. wots to stop them banging into something..

[SMOKEU]

Its a mystery allright,,, last I heard they were searching in WA....
Who noes....
Just 1 thing,, don't these pilots get a flight plan. like fly at 40,000ft. head norf. bla bla
If they did a U turn. wots to stop them banging into something..

They do have a flight plan, but not at a constant altitude, because as the aircraft gets lighter during the flight from fuel being burned, they will increase their altitude periodically in order to minimize fuel burn.

If they did turn around, then they could just use the VFR "see and avoid" to prevent binning, otherwise follow the IFR procedures.

[jonbuoy]

Just gets stranger by the minute. You would think if the plane was stolen to be used to carry some sort of payload or kamikaze style attack they would have done it by now. Everyone is now alerted and searching for a rogue airliner. To have planned the "theft" and not used it straight away seems odd. Could still be a one man effort.

[HenryDorsetCase]

There are not many real journalist left now, there are a lot of stenographers and cut and paste monkeys though. Real news gathering died a long time ago, now its all-black handbag fights or Paris Hilton backing over her dog in the driveway. No news anymore just entertainment with a dusting of what happened today and its all because they know you'll click the vid of Miley Cyrus twerking BEFORE you read about the train crash tragedy etc...

Used to watch the news but he don't anymore
Ain't none of it new its the same as before

vmUvMCPvCdQ

[HenryDorsetCase]

Finally a political win from tragedy. (http://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opinions/news/a/-/22017078/malaysia-mystery-shows-importance-of-five-year-passport-key/) I was getting concerned that they'd taken their foot off the pedal for a moment.

what a cunt. (JK not you ... today)

we microchip our pets. why not our citizens?

[oldrider]

Used to watch the news but he don't anymore
Ain't none of it new its the same as before

True! The news (any news) is just an extended opportunity to wrap saturated advertising around a smidgen of outdated comment! :spanking:

[rustyrobot]

what a cunt. (JK not you ... today)

we microchip our pets. why not our citizens?

This is the way it goes...

1 - Prisoners (http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/global-publications/h/home-detention-a-review-of-the-home-detention-sentence-2007-2011/operation-of-the-sentence-of-home-detention) (public says "fair enough - they've done the crime, they take the punishment")
2 - Alzheimers and dementia sufferers (http://www.3news.co.nz/Call-for-tracking-devices-on-Alzheimers-patients/tabid/423/articleID/183649/Default.aspx) (public says "that's understandable, they are at risk and it makes things safer")
3 - Children (http://gpsfleetmanagement.co.nz/ITSMyKidsGPSTracking.htm) (public says "there are scary people out there")
4 - High security employees and military/police staff (http://www.tracking-system.com/for-professionals.html) (public says "good call they need a higher level of safety in risky situations")

then

5 - everyone else, because it's normalised and "what's the problem if you have nothing to hide"


(only half serious, other half scared silly)

[mashman]

what a cunt. (JK not you ... today)

we microchip our pets. why not our citizens?

:laugh:... The day is young.

That's what mobile phones and the GCSB are for innit?


This is the way it goes...

1 - Prisoners (http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/global-publications/h/home-detention-a-review-of-the-home-detention-sentence-2007-2011/operation-of-the-sentence-of-home-detention) (public says "fair enough - they've done the crime, they take the punishment")
2 - Alzheimers and dementia sufferers (http://www.3news.co.nz/Call-for-tracking-devices-on-Alzheimers-patients/tabid/423/articleID/183649/Default.aspx) (public says "that's understandable, they are at risk and it makes things safer")
3 - Children (http://gpsfleetmanagement.co.nz/ITSMyKidsGPSTracking.htm) (public says "there are scary people out there")
4 - High security employees and military/police staff (http://www.tracking-system.com/for-professionals.html) (public says "good call they need a higher level of safety in risky situations")

then

5 - everyone else, because it's normalised and "what's the problem if you have nothing to hide"


(only half serious, other half scared silly)

No no no no no on No 4.

They shouldn't be tracked, coz if the system is jacked, they'll be easily whacked. Those guys are trusted, it's only us who get busted, please pass the mustid.

[scrivy]

If they did a U turn. wots to stop them banging into something..

Odd and even numbers....
IFR when flying a heading from 0º to 179º your selected cruise altitude should be Odd Thousands (33,000, 35,000, etc.) By the same token, headings from 180º to 359º should be Even Thousands for IFR. However, ATC may assign other altitudes at their discretion.

So converging aircraft should not crash into each other.... unless the pilot did go rogue and fly all over the show.... but at that time of night in that area..... Zip, nada......
Terrain masking in a B777...... and no-one heard it or saw it..... the next Tui ad.....:oi-grr:

[Paul in NZ]

Terrain mapping in a B777...... and no-one heard it or saw it..... the next Tui ad.....:oi-grr:

If a plane flies in the air and no one is there to see it, does it still make a sound? Or does it only work in forests?

[scrivy]

If a plane flies in the air and no one is there to see it, does it still make a sound? Or does it only work in forests?

Only makes a sound if someone shits in the toilets.... :lol:

[Scouse]

Norf Career

[YellowDog]

Norf Career

Is that place, run by that marvellously charismatic character, within the 5 hour range?

[oldrider]

The only place that could welcome a plane like that with no fuss or bother is the ocean, even that is a long shot but nothing else really fits! :rolleyes: Does it? :confused:

[rustyrobot]

Is that place, run by that marvellously charismatic character, within the 5 hour range?

Well you may scoff at him - but he is UNANIMOUSLY loved by his people. I mean, how else could you explain a 100% vote in support? :lol:

Here's the 600 runways that the plane could feasibly have landed at. I believe NK is just out of range.
http://project.wnyc.org/runways/

[oldrider]

Is that place, run by that marvellously charismatic character, within the 5 hour range?

They only have to fart over there and it would be monitored, don't really think so! :scratch:

[oldrider]

Well you may scoff at him - but he is UNANIMOUSLY loved by his people. I mean, how else could you explain a 100% vote in support? :lol:

Here's the 600 runways that the plane could feasibly have landed at. I believe NK is just out of range.
http://project.wnyc.org/runways/

Wouldn't it be good to live there and scrawl "Fuck you" on the ballot paper! ... Satisfaction and life would be short but oh so rewarding! :wings::2guns: :facepalm:

[Tigadee]

Great Leader wants join mile high club! Bring Great Leader aeroplane!

http://173.192.29.18/DaveMorris/Photos/Aviation%20Humor/Meme-KimJong-un.jpg

[scrivy]

Wouldn't it be good to live there and scrawl "Fuck you" on the ballot paper! ... Satisfaction and life would be short but oh so rewarding! :wings::2guns: :facepalm:

Until he runs you over with a steam roller..............:crazy::oi-grr:

[awa355]

If the bloody plane had've been painted in HiViz colours, it wooda been seen by now. :doh: Thats official, according to an ACC spokesman.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well you may scoff at him - but he is UNANIMOUSLY loved by his people. I mean, how else could you explain a 100% vote in support? :lol:

Here's the 600 runways that the plane could feasibly have landed at. I believe NK is just out of range.
http://project.wnyc.org/runways/

Not only that, how do you get TO Best Korea without flying over some of the most closely monitored airspace in the world. .... [clarkson voice] in the woooooorrrrrllllddddd [/clarkson voice]

[R650R]

Terrain mapping in a B777...... and no-one heard it or saw it..... the next Tui ad.....:oi-grr:

Not to mention the massive fuel burn flying even at 5000ft, would dramatically shorten range.

[Dave h]

Solved http://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/courtney-love-tweets-she-may-have-found-flight-mh370-1.1733842

I'm saying it's legit based on the fact that she chose the red font in ms paint.

[Laava]

Tattoo................

[scrivy]

Not to mention the massive fuel burn flying even at 5000ft, would dramatically shorten range.

In the denser air - you're absolutely right!

Where did they get the 5000ft idea from?
Also, if the hourly 'ping' indicates a trajectory on a north or south arc, why havent they shown 7 arcs for the 7 hours of pings? Then they'd be able to dramatically deduce the flight path mh370 was on.

[MVnut]

I think they know exactly where it is

[Woodman]

I think they know exactly where it is

Who are "they" this time?

[YellowDog]

Tattoo................

as at 27 seconds in: http://youtu.be/l3w9AfC5Ms0

[SMOKEU]

I think they know exactly where it is


Who are "they" this time?

Jews? Sand niggers? Aliens?

[R650R]

Who are "they" this time?

They would be the See Eye Aye brother... they've gotten sloppy with recent false flag efforts and this time they screwed up royally.
My bet is someone important was on that plane with a "Do not touch" rating, something that's respected even amongst the lowest of criminals is the title given to certain higher ups of family.
Whether its Russian Mafia, Triads or whoever there was someone important on there with friends in high places.
That plane would have been taken to be repainted in Iranian colours and flown into a US vessel or base at later date to kick off operation Glass Parking Lot Iran. But just as it was touching down in Deigo Garcia an unlisted phone number would have been ringing in Virginia/London/Haifa and a Russian/Chinese accent would have politely been asking for their Whanau to be flown first class back too... unharmed.
The plotline of the official story for this has been rewritten more than some backstreet hiphop dubstep and sounds just as crap. Truth is self evident, lies always need qualification by way of extended explanation and excuses and new versions.
Right now I'd say a C130 just landed at Diego with 500 angle grinders and cutting discs from Walmart. In several days time they will chuck the plane parts out the back of a C130 in middle of ocean and claim some bizarre crap like it was struck by a meteor and the resulting fire has cleaned off all the id markings etc...

[scrivy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9840870/Pilots-flight-simulator-focused-on-Indian-Ocean

Hmmm..... the pilot could have been practicing landing at Diego Garcia................

But the article says its only 1000m long, when really its 3700m long.......

....and...'The US has rejected claims it could have landed at their base on Diego Garcia, in the central Indian Ocean'

[scrivy]

Right now I'd say a C130 just landed at Diego with 500 angle grinders and cutting discs from Walmart. In several days time they will chuck the plane parts out the back of a C130 in middle of ocean and claim some bizarre crap like it was struck by a meteor and the resulting fire has cleaned off all the id markings etc...

You read my fucking mind!!!

But, I reckon they'll just remove some seats, doors, baggage, galley items etc. and do the same - dump them in the ocean to make it look like its crashed and vanished. The oceans mighty deep out there!!
Then they'll still have their plane to use for operation 'Tehran needs more golf courses'

[Akzle]

They would be the See Eye Aye brother... they've gotten sloppy with recent false flag efforts and this time they screwed up royally.
My bet is someone important was on that plane with a "Do not touch" rating, something that's respected even amongst the lowest of criminals is the title given to certain higher ups of family.
Whether its Russian Mafia, Triads or whoever there was someone important on there with friends in high places.
That plane would have been taken to be repainted in Iranian colours and flown into a US vessel or base at later date to kick off operation Glass Parking Lot Iran. But just as it was touching down in Deigo Garcia an unlisted phone number would have been ringing in Virginia/London/Haifa and a Russian/Chinese accent would have politely been asking for their Whanau to be flown first class back too... unharmed.
The plotline of the official story for this has been rewritten more than some backstreet hiphop dubstep and sounds just as crap. Truth is self evident, lies always need qualification by way of extended explanation and excuses and new versions.
Right now I'd say a C130 just landed at Diego with 500 angle grinders and cutting discs from Walmart. In several days time they will chuck the plane parts out the back of a C130 in middle of ocean and claim some bizarre crap like it was struck by a meteor and the resulting fire has cleaned off all the id markings etc...

where is everyone getting the good weed from??

[unstuck]

where is everyone getting the good weed from??

Dope plants silly.:weird:

[Crasherfromwayback]

They would be the See Eye Aye brother... they've gotten sloppy with recent false flag efforts and this time they screwed up royally.
My bet is someone important was on that plane with a "Do not touch" rating, something that's respected even amongst the lowest of criminals is the title given to certain higher ups of family.
Whether its Russian Mafia, Triads or whoever there was someone important on there with friends in high places.
That plane would have been taken to be repainted in Iranian colours and flown into a US vessel or base at later date to kick off operation Glass Parking Lot Iran. But just as it was touching down in Deigo Garcia an unlisted phone number would have been ringing in Virginia/London/Haifa and a Russian/Chinese accent would have politely been asking for their Whanau to be flown first class back too... unharmed.
The plotline of the official story for this has been rewritten more than some backstreet hiphop dubstep and sounds just as crap. Truth is self evident, lies always need qualification by way of extended explanation and excuses and new versions.
Right now I'd say a C130 just landed at Diego with 500 angle grinders and cutting discs from Walmart. In several days time they will chuck the plane parts out the back of a C130 in middle of ocean and claim some bizarre crap like it was struck by a meteor and the resulting fire has cleaned off all the id markings etc...


You read my fucking mind!!!

But, I reckon they'll just remove some seats, doors, baggage, galley items etc. and do the same - dump them in the ocean to make it look like its crashed and vanished. The oceans mighty deep out there!!
Then they'll still have their plane to use for operation 'Tehran needs more golf courses'


where is everyone getting the good weed from??

Jesus fucking christ. Weed? More like acid.

[avgas]

This is the way it goes...

1 - Prisoners (http://www.justice.govt.nz/publications/global-publications/h/home-detention-a-review-of-the-home-detention-sentence-2007-2011/operation-of-the-sentence-of-home-detention) (public says "fair enough - they've done the crime, they take the punishment")
2 - Alzheimers and dementia sufferers (http://www.3news.co.nz/Call-for-tracking-devices-on-Alzheimers-patients/tabid/423/articleID/183649/Default.aspx) (public says "that's understandable, they are at risk and it makes things safer")
3 - Children (http://gpsfleetmanagement.co.nz/ITSMyKidsGPSTracking.htm) (public says "there are scary people out there")
4 - High security employees and military/police staff (http://www.tracking-system.com/for-professionals.html) (public says "good call they need a higher level of safety in risky situations")

then

5 - everyone else, because it's normalised and "what's the problem if you have nothing to hide"


(only half serious, other half scared silly)
If he does it first - I'll do it.

[rickstv]

I can see it now. the BBC will make a doco out of this one day and the yanks will make a movie full of shit and heros, all Americans of caurse

[rustyrobot]

the yanks will make a movie full of shit and heros, all Americans of caurse

And whatever happens in the movie at the end there will be clapping and cheering and hugs.

[YellowDog]

Oh.... it was a cyber attack that took over the plane.

http://www.ibtimes.com/new-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-cyber-hijack-theory-emerges-after-vulnerabilities-found-inflight

I can't believe none of us made it up before it was made up by someone else.

That's more like it!

[Tigadee]

Finally! A simple but valid, educated and more plausible opinion/theory:

https://plus.google.com/106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz#106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz

[scrivy]

Finally! A simple but valid, educated and more plausible opinion/theory:

https://plus.google.com/106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz#106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz

Simple alright.................... if that is the case, then why the 7 hours of pings - that meant the aircraft was still intact, and if it was intact, then why did no one use their phones in a populated area?

If it crashed in that area, then why did no-one see/hear it??

Still doesn't explain why it climbed so high and descended again....

[scrivy]

Finally... they know where it is!!!

http://www.infowars.com/kremlin-malaysian-flight-370-hijacked-by-us-navy-to-protect-suspicious-cargo/


:shutup::facepalm::facepalm:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Finally! A simple but valid, educated and more plausible opinion/theory:

https://plus.google.com/106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz#106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz

I read that this morning.

Occam's Razor: It does seem quite plausible.

[mashman]

Finally... they know where it is!!!

http://www.infowars.com/kremlin-malaysian-flight-370-hijacked-by-us-navy-to-protect-suspicious-cargo/


:shutup::facepalm::facepalm:

Now they've lost the fuckin page too.

Here's another linky with extra info though. (http://joecruzmn.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/boeing-777-hijacked-mystery-kremlin-malaysian-flight-370-hijacked-by-us-navy-to-protect-suspicious-cargo-awacs-escorted-plane-and-did-co-pilot-of-missing-plane-send-distress-signals-is-t/)

[Tazz]

Finally! A simple but valid, educated and more plausible opinion/theory:

https://plus.google.com/106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz#106271056358366282907/posts/GoeVjHJaGBz

Needs more Aliens.

[scrivy]

Needs more Aliens.

Illegal immigrants ok??

[YellowDog]

Witnesses in the Maldives said that they saw a low-flying plane on the day it disappeared in what could be the latest possible sighting of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/22048693/missing-plane-spotted-in-maldives/

[scrivy]

Witnesses in the Maldives said that they saw a low-flying plane on the day it disappeared in what could be the latest possible sighting of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/22048693/missing-plane-spotted-in-maldives/

The time of sighting marries up too.....
All it had to do then was veer south...................... ;)

[scrivy]

Its true.....295020

On CNN, NBC and SMM right now......

[scrivy]

295021

I found it, do I get the reward?

Scrivys razor...

....it wasn't at Diego Garcia afterall....... :shutup::shit:

or is it......:shifty: <--- CIA man :grouphug: <--- Malaysian authorities :soon: <--- The world population
:corn: <--- Russia :ar15: <--- Taliban

[carbonhed]

295021

I found it, do I get the reward?

Scrivys razor...

....it wasn't at Diego Garcia afterall....... :shutup::shit:

or is it......:shifty: <--- CIA man :grouphug: <--- Malaysian authorities :soon: <--- The world population
:corn: <--- Russia :ar15: <--- Taliban

Never trusted that dago Garcia.

[george formby]

If it's true that they were trying to fly round the bottom of Australia, horrible thought, then I blame The Independent Tasmanian Soldiers organisation for the disappearance.

[oldrider]

If it's true that they were trying to fly round the bottom of Australia, horrible thought, then I blame The Independent Tasmanian Soldiers organisation for the disappearance.

Bloody hell! ... You really are George Formby! :shit:

[george formby]

Bloody hell! ... You really are George Formby! :shit:

I'm not as good looking.

[Tazz]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10013613_742680929097952_196413780_n.jpg

[Robbo]

So many theories

So few answers

Time to call in............

[Dave h]

I think in the next day or so alot more confirmed info will be released.

At this point the media are quoting other media and it's all a bit of a debacle to say the least, but things are slowly getting clearer.

My guess is Southern ocean either by pilot suicide or some event in the cockpit that ended with the plane headed that way on autopilot.

The Northern arc just seems to complicated to me.

[Stylo]

I might be a little pedantic here but I keep hearing on National radio and the television news today, the aircraft missing being referred to as flight MH 'Three seventy' or ' Three seven Oh ' Wrong. Cringing ...

Wish they'd get it right, it's flight 'Three seven zero'

Three seven zero, TV3.

[Akzle]

the jewmericans took it. For whatever reason. Aircraft carier or some other shit.
'parently there were two contacts on 'dar popping in and out. (running jamming) and making quick.

[Mike.Gayner]

I might be a little pedantic here but I keep hearing on National radio and the television news today, the aircraft missing being referred to as flight MH 'Three seventy' or ' Three seven Oh ' Wrong. Cringing ...

Wish they'd get it right, it's flight 'Three seven zero'

Three seven zero, TV3.

Who gives a fuck? Do you think people don't understand? It's the fucking news, not comms over radio between pilots.

[mashman]

the jewmericans took it. For whatever reason. Aircraft carier or some other shit.
'parently there were two contacts on 'dar popping in and out. (running jamming) and making quick.

Could MH370 have been ‘swapped’ mid-air? (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/22051525/could-mh370-have-been-swapped-mid-air/)

[Katman]

I might be a little pedantic here but I keep hearing on National radio and the television news today, the aircraft missing being referred to as flight MH 'Three seventy' or ' Three seven Oh ' Wrong. Cringing ...

Wish they'd get it right, it's flight 'Three seven zero'

Three seven zero, TV3.

I'm sure the families will take great heart from that thought.

[Swoop]

I wonder if they looked down the back of the sofa?

[scrivy]

Could MH370 have been ‘swapped’ mid-air? (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/22051525/could-mh370-have-been-swapped-mid-air/)

No chance. The 777 'pings' fail that theory..... not to mention that there were not two aircraft on primary radar.... (well, not reported....), and where did the stated Gulfstream end up??? :blink::crazy:

[mashman]

No chance. The 777 'pings' fail that theory..... not to mention that there were not two aircraft on primary radar.... (well, not reported....), and where did the stated Gulfstream end up??? :blink::crazy:

Dunno. Mail the "expert" suggesting the theory.

[scrivy]

Dunno. Mail the "expert" suggesting the theory.

Don't need to waste my time..... it's in Diego Garcia....... :bleh::shutup::shit::facepalm:

[mashman]

Don't need to waste my time..... it's in Diego Garcia....... :bleh::shutup::shit::facepalm:

The Gulfstream?

[Tazz]

Even if nothing else ever shows up, at least would be hijackers have found a sheeet load of new ideas to try out :sweatdrop

[scrivy]

The Gulfstream?

Lol!!

No, that went into the southern ocean with the pings from the triple 7!! (They can make them appear from another aircraft....) to make it look like the 777 went that way. The 777 is in DG! :shutup::eek:

[scrivy]

Even if nothing else ever shows up, at least would be hijackers have found a sheeet load of new ideas to try out :sweatdrop

Well there is that.... :shit:

Maybe I should get my pilots license back again......... :shifty: and try some out myself.....

I should contact my bro, he's a 777 captain..... he could tell me how to turn off the 'pings'.... I'd be sweet then............. :devil2:

[Tigadee]

I still say aliens took 'em! :shifty:

[scrivy]

I still say aliens took 'em! :shifty:

Those poor bastards........... probably getting anally probed right now............ :shit::eek:

It would be like a Beijing brothel................

[oldrider]

it would be like a Beijing brothel................

How do you know? :shifty:

[Berries]

The 777 is in DG! :shutup::eek:
Dargaville?

[avgas]

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Said it before - It's in China.


FYI that is a good series that kiwis should download, as I doubt it will make it to NZ tv. I'm currently watching it on Amazon Prime.

[Tigadee]

FYI that is a good series that kiwis should download, as I doubt it will make it to NZ tv.

Was apparently aired here in 2012.

Sounds like something from Fringe too. Perhaps the plane flew through an opening in the space/time continuum and travelled to the other universe, where they're having lunch with Leonard Nimoy...

[avgas]

Was apparently aired here in 2012.

Sounds like something from Fringe too. Perhaps the plane flew through an opening in the space/time continuum and travelled to the other universe, where they're having lunch with Leonard Nimoy...
heh - probably. Aired at midnight or some crap. I don't recall seeing ads for it in 2012.

Hopefully - otherwise they are stuck in tree gum.

[Tazz]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/971656_10152353440801062_32861851_n.jpg

[Tazz]

Well there is that.... :shit:

Maybe I should get my pilots license back again......... :shifty: and try some out myself.....

I should contact my bro, he's a 777 captain..... he could tell me how to turn off the 'pings'.... I'd be sweet then............. :devil2:

I heard you can just hold a wee makeup mirror out the window to deflect any of those pesky radarz so you don't even need to worry about turning the airplanes 'pings' off. Score!

[Paul in NZ]

I heard you can just hold a wee makeup mirror out the window to deflect any of those pesky radarz so you don't even need to worry about turning the airplanes 'pings' off. Score!

nah Bro! hang up some old CD's in the window...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Those poor bastards........... probably getting anally probed right now............ :shit::eek:

It would be like a Beijing brothel................

Is it as expensive there as it is here?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Was apparently aired here in 2012.

Sounds like something from Fringe too. Perhaps the plane flew through an opening in the space/time continuum and travelled to the other universe, where they're having lunch with Leonard Nimoy...

Leonard Nimoy is alive and well (so far) and living in this universe presently. He does have that COPD thing which will eventually kill him. And he gave up smoking 30 years ago.

[RavenR44]

In the denser air - you're absolutely right!

Where did they get the 5000ft idea from?
Also, if the hourly 'ping' indicates a trajectory on a north or south arc, why havent they shown 7 arcs for the 7 hours of pings? Then they'd be able to dramatically deduce the flight path mh370 was on.

Who knows where the 5000' idea originated - slip of the tongue? Somebody wanted to push their theory that the crew were flying nap of the Earth to avoid detection?

Some site quoted a source as saying the ping confirmed an offset angle of 40º from the centre of the geostationary satellite footprint. How that works, I haven't a clue - maybe you can nut it out. But seemingly there's no way to differentiate a ping North from South of the equator, if that helps.

The most value the pings seem to offer is confirmation that the a/c was still intact 6 hours after the transponder went offline.

[awa355]

I opened you tube and get this as a recommended viewing.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/Untitledpicture480x93.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26659951


sTRAYANS might have found something.

[Dave h]

Doubt the ozzie pm would announce something like that unless there's some substance behind it aye.

And now we wait.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mean time...

295071

[HenryDorsetCase]

Tony Abbo is such a he-man he will swim out there in his budgie smugglers and drag the airframe back to Bondi.

[Dave h]

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-321.html

pprune forum getting busy during the press conference

[R650R]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26659951


sTRAYANS might have found something.

Sounds very vague, Tony taking one for the team to keep the distraction going. They don't want to run out of new options and have the media start mentioning Deigo...

Don't buy the combo story either of cockpit fire AND the plane flying on autopilot for another 5 hours...

[carbonhed]

Sounds very vague, Tony taking one for the team to keep the distraction going. They don't want to run out of new options and have the media start mentioning Deigo...

Don't buy the combo story either of cockpit fire AND the plane flying on autopilot for another 5 hours...

Apparently on reading this Tony Abbot threw up his hands in despair, said "we're busted" and ordered all the planes back to base... or perhaps not.

[mashman]

Tony Abbo is such a he-man he will swim out there in his budgie smugglers and drag the airframe back to Bondi.

http://cdn.novafm.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/gallery/photo/chuck-norris-vs-tony-abbott-256117.jpg?itok=0B-vhqk8

[mashman]

How to get the perfect conspiracy

1. Do what you want to do without needing an excuse.
2. Chillax for a few days.
3. Let social media provide you with several scenarios.
4. Select the most popular.
5. Make it look that way.

Ooooooo if only I had have been a bad guy, I coulda been John Key, but with balls.

[Dave h]

On the pprune forum some yank was asking about the Aussies SAR capability re: their orions etc.

Aussie guy replies..

"This is a piece of piss for the RAAF, they are after all a professional lot who do this often, as well as work with NZ and the US, the providers of the other aircraft. The fact they re tasked a C-130 that quick to fly out and drop buoys says a lot, they obviously had the finger on the button.

Australia is not Malaysia and Aus has done this heaps of times before, including in war zones for the last 10 years."

:Punk:

[oldrider]

How to get the perfect conspiracy

1. Do what you want to do without needing an excuse.
2. Chillax for a few days.
3. Let social media provide you with several scenarios.
4. Select the most popular.
5. Make it look that way.

Ooooooo if only I had have been a bad guy, I coulda been John Key, but with balls.

You would have to grow a moustache first Mashie. :rolleyes:

[mashman]

You would have to grow a moustache first Mashie. :rolleyes:

I always wanted a Dick Dastardly tash.

[oldrider]

I always wanted a Dick Dastardly tash.

Good, that will be your point of difference, otherwise how would anyone know? :confused:

[kevfromcoro]

They have found a few bits.. 2500ks south west of Perth.
Its satalite pics,, so not sure if its off a plane.
Aussies are out there,, few kiwi boats too.
Mayebe another tall story.
who knows

[Katman]

They have found a few bits.. 2500ks south west of Perth.
Its satalite pics,, so not sure if its off a plane.
Aussies are out there,, few kiwi boats too.
Mayebe another tall story.
who knows

It's probably just the remains of a boat full of refugees.

[Tigadee]

Hey, here's an idea!

How about deploying a bunch of UAVs to search? That way they'd cover more area in less time, AND cost less too?... Anyone?

[oldrider]

Funny thing is the fortune tellers and sooth sayers etc are keeping a low profile on this one ... havent heard a dickie bird from them! :rolleyes:

[scrivy]

Funny thing is the fortune tellers and sooth sayers etc are keeping a low profile on this one ... havent heard a dickie bird from them! :rolleyes:

Yes you have.......... I said it was in Diego Garcia..... :rolleyes: :lol:

[mashman]

Funny thing is the fortune tellers and sooth sayers etc are keeping a low profile on this one ... havent heard a dickie bird from them! :rolleyes:

That's because their transmissions have been intercepted and they are now swimming with the fishes. Seriously man, keep up.

[oldrider]

That's because their transmissions have been intercepted and they are now swimming with the fishes. Seriously man, keep up.

Whatd'ya mean man, they claim to connect dead or alive!

If they had a mode of authenticy they should be able to plug straight into the black boxes before the batteries go flat!

I am not only keeping up, I am way out here in front ... bring on the Pyshics!

:Oops: Here ya go then: http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-psychic-uri-geller-called-on-to-help-in-finding-missing-malaysian-jet-1969591 Sorry Mashie, you were right! :doh:

[oldrider]

Yes you have.......... I said it was in Diego Garcia..... :rolleyes: :lol:

Another :Oops: this is a bad day at the office for me! :spanking:

[scrivy]

... bring on the Psychos!


Thats better....

[Banditbandit]

See .. 't'was really aliens

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/22095373/cnn-anchorman-asks-could-a-black-hole-explain-mh370-mystery/

Fuck there are some strange people out there ... and not just on KBer ..

[Berries]

Apparently they have found the wings.






They run a dairy in West Auckland.