Geoff Robinson signs off Morning Report

[HenryDorsetCase]

Gosh, he has been the soundtrack of my mornings since the blimmin' 1980's!

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/240343/geoff-robinson%27s-last-morning-report

The absolute epitomy of professionalism, dignity, and journalistic integrity.

I hope he has a long and happy retirement.

[slofox]

Gosh, he has been the soundtrack of my mornings since the blimmin' 1980's!

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/240343/geoff-robinson%27s-last-morning-report

The absolute epitomy of professionalism, dignity, and journalistic integrity.

I hope he has a long and happy retirement.

Wot 'e said. One of the best.

[TheDemonLord]

What is this 'Radio' you speak of?

[HenryDorsetCase]

What is this 'Radio' you speak of?

If you are a taxpayer, you pay for it, so give it a listen.

I am a big fan of public service broadcasting, and we actually now only have one organ of same now that TVNZ is no longer.

I originally switched back in the day because I grew to loathe commercials, and to hate the morons who infest commercial radio. Nothing has changed there except the "jocks" are, if anything, even more reprehensible than ever.

[TheDemonLord]

If you are a taxpayer, you pay for it, so give it a listen.

I am a big fan of public service broadcasting, and we actually now only have one organ of same now that TVNZ is no longer.

I originally switched back in the day because I grew to loathe commercials, and to hate the morons who infest commercial radio. Nothing has changed there except the "jocks" are, if anything, even more reprehensible than ever.

When they start playing Extreme Metal on daytime Radio, maybe.

If not, I have about 120 Gb worth of music on my Work PCs

[fridayflash]

yep, shame we wont be hearing 'ko geoff robinson tenei' any longer. great guy loved to start my day with the morning report:bye:

[fridayflash]

as an aside, i must add that sean plunkett gets on my fucken tits, as does mary wilson...a pathetic whingeing/hounding/accusing style of interviewing.
i will however, continue to listen:shutup:

[ellipsis]

...the fact that National doesn't play music constantly is great...he has been one of the things in life that remained constant in an ever changing world...never really thought about him as anything other than his being one of the first voices I'd hear in the morning... his absence will be conspicuous...

[Voltaire]

I drive over the Bombays from time to time in the van and the only station I can get is that one...National Program...?
When is the rest of the country going to get FM?

[F5 Dave]

. . .
I originally switched back in the day because I grew to loathe commercials, and to hate the morons who infest commercial radio. Nothing has changed there except the "jocks" are, if anything, even more reprehensible than ever.
That one. I can't listen to commercial radio for long, even with a penchant for more alternative/harder music than usual schmeltz - just the adverts give me the piss. And the morons doing the talking esp in the mornings.

My wife started me on Nat radio, I thought she was a fuddyduddy, but the bliss of no adds, no overplayed playlist & a newsreel approach instead was an improvement.

I liked Plunket, its just that 'orrible wench Kim Hill on Saturdays I hate. She interviews all sorts of interesting people & then proceeds to talk over them in her patronising Let me show you how incredibly intellectual and well read I am vernacular (see what I did there?)

That said, now I have kids, if I can get silence in the morning I turn off National Radio as well

[jasonu]

I was listening to Chris Carter on ZB talkback when he got fired. Apparently they told him his days were numbered so he just up and left.

[HenryDorsetCase]

When they start playing Extreme Metal on daytime Radio, maybe.

If not, I have about 120 Gb worth of music on my Work PCs

I also don't listen to radio music: but then I never did really. In fact the last time I ever was into radio music was Barry Jenkin and the "ZM All Nighter"

[fridayflash]

I drive over the Bombays from time to time in the van and the only station I can get is that one...National Program...?
When is the rest of the country going to get FM?

for some reason the central body of the north island is a strange place for radio reception...i drove from taupo to ngaruawahia (to pickup bike of course)
and the only thing i could pickup was a christian station which was playing an audio version of the old testament...fuck lott's daughters were slappers!

[fridayflash]

I also don't listen to radio music: but then I never did really. In fact the last time I ever was into radio music was Barry Jenkin and the "ZM All Nighter"

used to listen to barry jenkin too, his gravely voice introduced me to a lot of new wave punk etc

[SPman]

It was all downhill after Kim Hill wasn't a regular......

[Banditbandit]

When they start playing Extreme Metal on daytime Radio, maybe.

If not, I have about 120 Gb worth of music on my Work PCs

REAL metal was played on Records - probably before your day and something your grandparents might have ..

I have a lot of those old big black vinyl thingies .. and sometimes I still play them ..

But Heavy Metal ??? or Extreme metal ??? How passé ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

REAL metal was played on Records - probably before your day and something your grandparents might have ..

I have a lot of those old big black vinyl thingies .. and sometimes I still play them ..

But Heavy Metal ??? or Extreme metal ??? How passé ...

Everybody knows that metal died with John Bonham in 1980.

[Moi]

I shed a tear this morning as I listened to Geoff for the last time - he's been Morning Report for all of my working life.

I wish him a happy and long retirement.

[Winston001]

mary wilson...a pathetic whingeing/hounding/accusing...


A Witch A Witch!

[oldrider]

Hardly real headline TV news for gods sake! :thud:

[James Deuce]

And the irreplaceable Geoff Robinson has been replaced by a mouthpiece for the National Party's Party Political Broadcast. Worst day in NZ media history. Mr Robinson was the last impartial, hard hitting interviewer left on anyone's roster.

National radio will disappear within a couple of years as their morning listeners utterly give up and start listening to podcasts.

[nerrrd]

Yeah no more comfy slippers for my ears in the morning. Agree he's the best interviewer they had, managed to be incisive without being rude or condescending (unlike Wilson, Plunkett and the rest).

I'd rather listen to something another human being has put some thought into rather than a soulless machine.

[TheDemonLord]

Everybody knows that metal died with John Bonham in 1980.

Except Led Zep were never metal.....

Don't make me get out my musical Theory hat.

As for Heavy Metal vs Extreme - I like the classics, like I love a big juicy Steak, but some people will agree that occasionally you need a bit of bite with your food.... I like a LOT of bite with my Metal!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Except Led Zep were never metal.....

Don't make me get out my musical Theory hat.

As for Heavy Metal vs Extreme - I like the classics, like I love a big juicy Steak, but some people will agree that occasionally you need a bit of bite with your food.... I like a LOT of bite with my Metal!

So you're a big fan of Nickelback and Creed? ;-) (actually just getting on topic for a bit, because I don't know anything about commercial radio, I can confidently say while I have heard OF those bands (always in a negative context), I have never listened to them.)

My dad read something in the readers digest back in the day that said heavy metal was bad, and that Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath were heavy metal and satanists and did I want to be a satanist because of listening obsessively to those bands when I was 12. I was clearly already a satanist by that point so the music didnt really matter.

[MisterD]

And the irreplaceable Geoff Robinson has been replaced by a mouthpiece for the National Party's Party Political Broadcast. Worst day in NZ media history. Mr Robinson was the last impartial, hard hitting interviewer left on anyone's roster.

Whaat? A tired old lefty is replaced by an aggressive young one...RNZ's budget should count towards Labour's election spending.

I would, however, agree that replacing someone who uses the word "programme" with someone who talks about the new "show" is a retrograde step.

[Banditbandit]

Whaat? A tired old lefty is replaced by an aggressive young one...RNZ's budget should count towards Labour's election spending.

I would, however, agree that replacing someone who uses the word "programme" with someone who talks about the new "show" is a retrograde step.

I'm terribly sorry - but the media has always been largely about entertainment - even the news ... the news media generate the myth that they are giving the population important information .. in fact they are not - they are ensuring that people generally subscribe to, watch, listen to, get the messages of, the biggest money-making business in the world ...

The myth that we have Public Broadcasting simply helps to prop up the capitalist media myths ..

I haven't listened to National Radio since we moved to BoP .. and I don't miss it - yes, I did like Geoff Robinson for al the reasons said - but I haven't heard him for four year . and it has been no great loss.

Don't get sucked into the propaganda machine ..

[Banditbandit]

Don't make me get out my musical Theory hat.



Oooo .. is that a challenge ??? Go on - do it ... (be interesting to see and a real laugh)

[F5 Dave]

F5 Dave signs off. . .this thread
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we're not really a metal band

wot? if we're not a metal band I'm quitting and I'm the one who owns the amp

[MisterD]

Don't get sucked into the propaganda machine ..

Me? I listen to The Sound.

[James Deuce]

Whaat? A tired old lefty is replaced by an aggressive young one...RNZ's budget should count towards Labour's election spending.

I would, however, agree that replacing someone who uses the word "programme" with someone who talks about the new "show" is a retrograde step.

Espiner is not young, nor is he a lefty. Mr Robinson was never a lefty either. I have heard him deconstruct ideology for Labour PMs on more than one occasion and demand an actual argument and factual basis for policy.

[MisterD]

Espiner is not young, nor is he a lefty.

He's less than two months older than me, he's young.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Whaat? A tired old lefty is replaced by an aggressive young one...RNZ's budget should count towards Labour's election spending.


bullshit. I have no idea about Geoff Robinsons personal political views and neither do you.

[James Deuce]

He's less than two months older than me, he's young.

Lol. No he's not.

[Banditbandit]

Espiner is not young, nor is he a lefty. Mr Robinson was never a lefty either. I have heard him deconstruct ideology for Labour PMs on more than one occasion and demand an actual argument and factual basis for policy.

THat doesn't prove he is not a lefty - that just shows he is good at his job ...

[James Deuce]

THat doesn't prove he is not a lefty - that just shows he is good at his job ...

You haven't proved that he is a lefty. That's just a lazy petitio principii argument.

[TheDemonLord]

Oooo .. is that a challenge ??? Go on - do it ... (be interesting to see and a real laugh)

Okay you asked for it:

Why Led Zep aren't Metal (and why Black Sabbath are)

Now, this is a common arguement as to who the first metal band was, there is even debate among the bands themselves, Ozzy has been quoted on numerous occasions that he has always felt that Black Sabbath was a Blues Rock band, however such is the nature of Music that often the lines between one genre and another are blurry at best as the music evolves.

But to answer the question who was the first we must first define what Metal is and What differentiates Metal from its related Genres (Hard Rock, Punk, Goth Rock etc.)

Hard rock was the evolution of Blues rock, noted for featuring louder Guitar and Amp settings which caused natural distortion, Generally mid paced tempos, often contemporary and at the time controversial lyrical matter, clean vocals, Proto-Virtuoso guitar playing, Verse/Chorus song structure

Often there ws influences from Progressive and Psychadelic bands as well.

Metal features a lot of similarities, however there are 2 key differences which IMO differentiate metal from Rock:

1: Palm Muted 8th note (or 16th note) guitar riffs - often using power chords (Root, 5th and Octave)

This is the first hurdle which Led Zep are not able to claim Metal status - although Jimmy Page's guitar playing was heavy and generally featured alot of distortion, Led Zep rarely uses this as part of their riffs, For example Black Dog:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KJeu99kjY

Or Kashmir (board won't let me post more than 2 videos :()

Now compare against Black Sabbath's Paranoid which makes repeated uses of this technique:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdOVThsWEg

Or even Deep Purple's Highway star (Board won't let me post more than 2 videos :()

2: Lyrical Themes

This is a bit of a more obscure and has more scope for debate conjecture, but Metal tends to towards the more rebellious (so critique of Government, of Systematic power structures etc.) the Occult (Satanism, Demons, Darkness) Nihilistic, Mental issues, Controversial and Risque.

It can be said that for the time, Led Zepplin's lyrical content was at the cutting edge of Controversial - however compare to the darker themes found in Sabbath's first 2 albums - such as the Theme of the song Black Sabbath (about a Man having a nightmare about a Demon) or War Pigs (Anti War/Critique of politics that go to war) or Paranoid (Mental illness/insanity)

So on these first 2 key points that IMO seperate Metal from Rock, Led Zepplin do not count - and so cannot be considered a Heavy Metal Band.

However - one cannot talk about the origins of Heavy Metal without talking about Led Zepplin, in the same way that one cannot talk about Thrash Metal without talking about Motorhead, or that one cannot talk about Power Metal without first talking of Iron Maiden or Helloween.

So there - Led Zep aren't Metal, Black Sabbath are.

QED

[Voltaire]

Black Sabbath first HM band.....:lol:
The Beatles Helter Skelter is more HM that boring old Paranoid.:baby:
Led Zep are just a rip off covers band, who stole blues songs.
Stairway to Heaven- ripped off Taurus by Spirit

I saw Motorhead at the Hammersmith Odeon once, my ears nearly bled. They were more Spinal Tap than metal.

[TheDemonLord]

Black Sabbath first HM band.....:lol:
The Beatles Helter Skelter is more HM that boring old Paranoid.:baby:
Led Zep are just a rip off covers band, who stole blues songs.
Stairway to Heaven- ripped off Taurus by Spirit

I saw Motorhead at the Hammersmith Odeon once, my ears nearly bled. They were more Spinal Tap than metal.

The Beatles may have done a slightly metal sounding song - a single metal song does not a metal band make - We could also submit it to the same analysis as above, and although there does appear to be a Palm Muted riff - its not the Main riff, the main Metalness, comes from the Vocals, however that Vocal style could also be called Punk.....

I saw Motorhead twice when they came to NZ - they were amazing, especially at the St James - twas a good gig.

[Swoop]

I originally switched back in the day because I grew to loathe commercials, and to hate the morons who infest commercial radio. Nothing has changed there except the "jocks" are, if anything, even more reprehensible than ever.
I (sadly) tuned in for a short while the other morning and it appears as if each station require a minimum of two "jocks" to do the job. Some seem to require four.
The incessant dribble spouted by them is not entertaining, neither is the "polls" they take on whatever topic is flavour-of-the-hour.

Thank fuck for MP3 players.


Oddly, the radio in the gagre has decided to give up on FM and now only plays AM, so RNZ is now the entertaining medium now.

[Big Dave]

Yep - I gave up listening to the radio when making your own playlists became viable. All I want to do when I hear a 'novelty voice' or vacuous talking head now is throttle them and avoid the product they are promoting.

Same for Radio or TV news and current affairs shows. All they do is burden you with shit you can't do anything about. Piss them off too. You'll be much happier.

Don't worry. Be mp3.

[unstuck]

The last person I listened to on the radio would have been Marcus Lush, back when he was on BFM. That would have been a day or two ago.

[SPman]

Same for Radio or TV news and current affairs shows. All they do is burden you with shit you can't do anything about.
.

The off switch is a wonderful device - particularly if you get them at mid-strangulated syllable......

[Banditbandit]

You haven't proved that he is a lefty. That's just a lazy petitio principii argument.

Yeah - I know that - I was not trying to prove he was/was not a lefty - I have no opinion on his politics .. I was pointing out that Geoff being a tough interviewer on Labour politicos doesn't prove that he is not a lefty ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yep - I gave up listening to the radio when making your own playlists became viable. All I want to do when I hear a 'novelty voice' or vacuous talking head now is throttle them and avoid the product they are promoting.

Same for Radio or TV news and current affairs shows. All they do is burden you with shit you can't do anything about. Piss them off too. You'll be much happier.

Don't worry. Be mp3.

Yeah. Except the MP3 part: I've gone to FLAC at home. Well, going: about halfway through ripping the CD's

There's a Drive By Truckers lyric quote for most situations and the appropriate one here is:

Used to watch the news but he don't any more.
Ain't none of it news its the same as before.

also, we need more proto-metal:

UIVe-rZBcm4

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah - I know that - I was not trying to prove he was/was not a lefty - I have no opinion on his politics .. I was pointing out that Geoff being a tough interviewer on Labour politicos doesn't prove that he is not a lefty ...

even donkey is quoted as saying he is a "Fair" interviewer and he has no idea of his politics.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Black Sabbath first HM band.....:lol:
The Beatles Helter Skelter is more HM that boring old Paranoid.:baby:
Led Zep are just a rip off covers band, who stole blues songs.
Stairway to Heaven- ripped off Taurus by Spirit

I saw Motorhead at the Hammersmith Odeon once, my ears nearly bled. They were more Spinal Tap than metal.

Leaving aside the fairly obvious trolling going on here, dismissing Led Zeppelin as a "rip off covers band" is just wrong. By that measure, so are the Rolling Stones.

[Voltaire]

Leaving aside the fairly obvious trolling going on here, dismissing Led Zeppelin as a "rip off covers band" is just wrong. By that measure, so are the Rolling Stones.

Guilty as charged, have a listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiiY4ciKFQA
Some of LZ's songs are nigh on word for word of the originals.
The Stones, for sure, and repackaged it for honkies.
Anyhows this is more of trolling that motorcycle site anyway :lol:

[Winston001]

also, we need more proto-metal:


Nice. I have a pristine LP of Iron Butterfly not 5 metres from this very spot.

So while we are delightfully OT just a quick mention for Blodwyn Pig and Ten Years After. Not quite heavy metal but they laid the heavy rock foundations.

And then there is Budgie, born in Wales in 1967 and regarded as the first heavy metal band.




All of which were eclipsed in 1969 by Earth....



http://youtu.be/YCjspyo-_aI

[Swoop]

:rofl:

Love how the morning report has turned into an "origins of heavy metal" thread!

Only on KB.:cool:

[ellipsis]

...we had our well water tested some years back...no heavy metals or significant microbial dangers were found...

[Brian d marge]

as an aside, i must add that sean plunkett gets on my fucken tits, as does mary wilson...a pathetic whingeing/hounding/accusing style of interviewing.
i will however, continue to listen:shutup:
Mary Fkin Wilson that skanky lesbian can fk right off
THE WORST Person for that job
insert pages of venom and scorn

Love national radio , and listen to it here in Japan all the time ,

Morning report is a little early for me though

Stephen

[Banditbandit]

:rofl:

Love how the morning report has turned into an "origins of heavy metal" thread!

Only on KB.:cool:

Thread hijacking is so much more fun than trolling ..

[ellipsis]

Thread hijacking is so much more fun than trolling ..

...almost as much as the 'hijacking' thread

[TheDemonLord]

the best hijacks start off related to the thread and from there get further and further off topic

In related to the Hijack:

:headbang:

[ellipsis]

...what has that got to do with Geoff 'Heavy Metal' Robinson and the Olsen twins...

[rustyrobot]

http://a.tgcdn.net/images/products/additional/large/8953_heavy_metal.jpg

Take this thread to Cuba!

[ellipsis]

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[Trade_nancy]

So you're a big fan of Nickelback and Creed? ;-) (actually just getting on topic for a bit, because I don't know anything about commercial radio, I can confidently say while I have heard OF those bands (always in a negative context), I have never listened to them.)

My dad read something in the readers digest back in the day that said heavy metal was bad, and that Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath were heavy metal and satanists and did I want to be a satanist because of listening obsessively to those bands when I was 12. I was clearly already a satanist by that point so the music didnt really matter.

Were known as HEAVY ROCKERS - not metallickers..

[Brian d marge]

this thread has gone to 11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Spinal_Tap_-_Up_to_Eleven.jpg

Stephen

[TheDemonLord]

But why not make 10 louder and then make 10 the loudest?

[ellipsis]

...how much gain can you get away with running it at 11...what horns do you use...JBL ?

[HenryDorsetCase]

But why not make 10 louder and then make 10 the loudest?

"but these go to 11"

[slofox]

In the interests of getting this thread back on topic, albeit only briefly I'm sure...what are your opinions of the new crew of the good ship Morning Report?

My only comment so far is that whoever wrote the new theme song should not give up the day job...:crazy:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Still feeling their way a bit. It helps there is continuity in the segments (Phil Kafkaloodies this morning for example). I though Guyon would be more of a heavy hitter straight in but not so much so far. Early days yet and a fucking election year too. Ugh.

[Winston001]

Yeah, its a bit soft so far but early days. I do miss the gravitas of Geoff Robinson's voice.

How about Mary Wilson gets on the job whining and plaintively twisting peoples words from 7:00 am? What a lovely wakeup that would be. :brick:

[Brian d marge]

Yeah, its a bit soft so far but early days. I do miss the gravitas of Geoff Robinson's voice.

How about Mary Wilson gets on the job whining and plaintively twisting peoples words from 7:00 am? What a lovely wakeup that would be. :brick:

Sick and twisted that would ruin my favorite morning routine

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[slofox]

How about Mary Wilson gets on the job whining and plaintively twisting peoples words from 7:00 am? What a lovely wakeup that would be. :brick:

You might find the suicide rate soaring...I'd go first!

[Naki Rat]

Yeah, its a bit soft so far but early days. I do miss the gravitas of Geoff Robinson's voice.

How about Mary Wilson gets on the job whining and plaintively twisting peoples words from 7:00 am? What a lovely wakeup that would be. :brick:
Waking up to Scarey Mary :shit: Nooooooooooooooo!!

[Brian d marge]

IF and a big if

Donkey told that ugly lez the truth ,

The truth as in she is bat shit ugly and if only hates men becaquse she aint getting it

and she does need to get it .....


I might even pause for thought before not voting for him

Stephen