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aum108
23rd April 2014, 14:21
Hi Guys,

Can anyone share their experience on the pros and cons of both these bikes, a Dyna Wide Glide vs Road King FLHR?

I'm changing to a job which will need me to commute from Hamilton to Auckland several days a month, and a comfy bike feels like the ideal option for the 280km return trips, certainly better than being stuck in a cage on the motorway :P

I've never owned a hog before. My wife points out a very narrow front tyre on the Wide Glide compared to the Road King. On the other hand, I notice the foot controls are much more forward on the Wide Glide, which suits me nicely.

What are your thoughts?

Cheers
Dave

Geeen
23rd April 2014, 14:47
If you have your heart set on a cruiser dont overlook the Triumphs, Speedmaster Thunderbird etc. I know many guys who go to Wellies and back for fun on them

AllanB
23rd April 2014, 18:15
If you are spending Road King type coin I'd propose to widen your search to a number of other brands that offer very good tourers.

Just a thought.

aum108
24th April 2014, 06:36
If you are spending Road King type coin I'd propose to widen your search to a number of other brands that offer very good tourers. Just a thought.

The Road King I'm looking at is a 2000 US import, done 22000km, selling for $15k. If you can suggest other brands/models that can offer more satisfaction for the buck, I'm all ears.

skippa1
24th April 2014, 07:08
Agree with the others, have a look at the VRSC range too. For a commute to Auckland, they are a lot quicker, more nimble and a blast to ride.

JimO
24th April 2014, 07:17
why not replace the cage with a car, much more practical

aum108
24th April 2014, 07:34
why not replace the cage with a car, much more practical

WTF?? Yeah, getting stuck on the motorway on the way to and from work, while watching the bikers zipping up between the lanes :brick: you call that PRACTICAL?!? :bash:

Grubber
24th April 2014, 07:37
Neither bike has a lot going for it for me. Wide Glide is one i owned some time back and would not buy another. Harley are well over rated in my opinion.
As said, Triumph do some really nice cruisers that handle very well. That's were i get my bang for buck.

JimO
24th April 2014, 07:40
WTF?? Yeah, getting stuck on the motorway on the way to and from work, while watching the bikers zipping up between the lanes :brick: you call that PRACTICAL?!? :bash:
your the one in a cage, how fast does a cage go??

aum108
24th April 2014, 07:47
your the one in a cage, how fast does a cage go??

Cage goes as fast as the cage in front, as slow as 5km/h in peak motorway traffic. And, by the way, I do ride a bike, even if it's just a modest XV250 that got me through my restricted.

Geeen
24th April 2014, 09:55
The Road King I'm looking at is a 2000 US import, done 22000km, selling for $15k. If you can suggest other brands/models that can offer more satisfaction for the buck, I'm all ears.

Have a serious look at these

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-717834603.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-686490048.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-686485117.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-708588514.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-720865187.htm

All of them are younger than the HD, Same price or cheaper and a couple are brand spankers.... But, ride as many as you can to get a feel for the differences in power, handling, seating position etc and buy whichever makes you giggle like a school girl. A bike that's meh to ride is pointless.

aum108
24th April 2014, 10:04
Have a serious look at these

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-717834603.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-686490048.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-686485117.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-708588514.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-720865187.htm

All of them are younger than the HD, Same price or cheaper and a couple are brand spankers.... But, ride as many as you can to get a feel for the differences in power, handling, seating position etc and buy whichever makes you giggle like a school girl. A bike that's meh to ride is pointless.

Thanks for that. Your effort is much appreciated. Nice selection - the Bonnevilles and Rocket look nice, but it's the T-bird that's got me thinkin' :) especially after an article I read earlier comparing it to the HD WideGlide.

rustyrobot
24th April 2014, 10:04
Have a serious look at these


Oooh - that blacked out Bonnie speedmaster is right tasty!

AllanB
24th April 2014, 10:19
Some good mile eaters here:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-718208564.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-709612504.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-721012167.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-719993602.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-537419348.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-713712410.htm

Geeen
24th April 2014, 11:07
Some good mile eaters here:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-718208564.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-709612504.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-721012167.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-719993602.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-537419348.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-713712410.htm

Good comfy bikes those, Only issue for op might be the cruiser thing. Wouldn't stop me seriously looking at the FJR, Beemer or Trumpy though

Geeen
24th April 2014, 11:11
Thanks for that. Your effort is much appreciated. Nice selection - the Bonnevilles and Rocket look nice, but it's the T-bird that's got me thinkin' :) especially after an article I read earlier comparing it to the HD WideGlide.

Go talk to Heath at Hamilton Motorcycles, he might be able to tee up a test ride for you. Todays a bit "uninspiring" but sitting on them should give you an idea of what fits. They usually have ZX14s and the odd BMW instore as well. Also, if you aren't hung up on a cruiser many ony here would wax lyrical on the VFR800.

Moi
24th April 2014, 11:50
A few thoughts:

* why a cruiser? you want to commute so why not a tourer with weather protection and safe/secure luggage capacity = wear your bike gear and have your work clothes dry and ready along with anything else you may need to have, e.g. laptop and work papers - why bikes like these are popular in the UK and Europe [just make sure you have somewhere to change...]

* if you want to 'lane split' than you might find anything so far suggested as being too big to do so easily - those who lane split on a regular basis ride "thin" bikes - panniers make a bike fat in the rear... I can hear some saying "No way, you can lane split with panniers"

* if you've been riding a 250 then, perhaps, a step up to the 600 to 900cc range might be a wiser move? bikes in this range are capable of maintaining position with traffic and over-taking with ease and for you to lose your licence as well! - do you really need 1200+cc?

* another suggestion: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-711108771.htm

aum108
24th April 2014, 11:55
Good comfy bikes those, Only issue for op might be the cruiser thing. Wouldn't stop me seriously looking at the FJR, Beemer or Trumpy though

A major issue for me is riding posture. I've been checking quite a few bikes on www.cycle-ergo.com (http://www.cycle-ergo.com). I'm on the tall side, with long legs, so prefer bikes that let me stretch out the knees a bit.

Has anyone here had a Suzuki VL800? It's absolutely not a hog, not even a hog's ass hair, but it looks like a good fit, and certainly a bit more grunt than my little XV250.

AllanB
24th April 2014, 15:09
The big tourers are plenty roomy enough and the aftermarket usually supplies different bars or peg re-locators for the popular models if you want to adjust. The BMW and the likes usually have adjustable seat heights.

One possible issue with a cruiser for long distance is the riding position tends to lock you into one place - by nature of the feet forward arms streatched out and seat design you have limited room to move about.

Best to sample a number of different bikes - to be fair they are all very good, it will come down to personal choice. There is a surprising amount of late model low km quality distance eaters available around the $15k mark.

Geeen
24th April 2014, 16:19
The big tourers are plenty roomy enough and the aftermarket usually supplies different bars or peg re-locators for the popular models if you want to adjust. The BMW and the likes usually have adjustable seat heights.

One possible issue with a cruiser for long distance is the riding position tends to lock you into one place - by nature of the feet forward arms streatched out and seat design you have limited room to move about.

Best to sample a number of different bikes - to be fair they are all very good, it will come down to personal choice. There is a surprising amount of late model low km quality distance eaters available around the $15k mark.

What he said, plus cruisers tend to put pressure on your lower back and some suffer a numb arse...... On the bikes Mr B above is talking about this isn't so much of a problem.

BIG DOUG
24th April 2014, 21:56
If you want disappointment ride a thunderbird

Theantidote
4th May 2014, 10:33
I commute the southern end of the m'way on an xv1100...apart from being air cooled she's been a great comfy ride...saddle bags don't present a problem when splitting...
be a bit cautious when splitting past the papakura on ramp...cagers seem to change lanes randomly without looking, indicating or with any care at all...past that point I tend to sit back and watch in horror the potential for a massive fuck up...
the vl800 is nice...picking 1 up this week so will be good to see how that goes on the commute...won't be lane splitting on her much as the bars are friggin wide as and seem perfect for taking off wing mirrors...
let us know what you got...I'll keep a beady eye open in the mornings....

skippa1
4th May 2014, 11:08
If you want disappointment ride a thunderbird
Not too good? I thought about one at one point, never rode one though.

aum108
4th May 2014, 11:10
be a bit cautious when splitting past the papakura on ramp...cagers seem to change lanes randomly without looking, indicating or with any care at all...past that point I tend to sit back and watch in horror the potential for a massive fuck up...
Thanks for the warning - much appreciated. I do usually tend to hold back on the splitting unless the cages have really slowed down.

On that note - do the coppers get overly stroppy with bikes making occasional use of the breakdown lane(s)?


the vl800 is nice...picking 1 up this week so will be good to see how that goes on the commute...won't be lane splitting on her much as the bars are friggin wide as and seem perfect for taking off wing mirrors...
She looks like a nice ride, for sure. I definitely had one in mind. Wishing you much enjoyment.


let us know what you got...I'll keep a beady eye open in the mornings....
As it happens, I got the vl800's cuzzy, a C50T Boulevard. Sweet ride, big deep baritone growl for a Jap bike. But the numbers have ruled - 70% of the Harley mojo at 40% of the cost.

I share your issue with the bars. Very tempted to get narrower ones, especially for splitting.

Will get to experience the commute hard out tommorow, leaving H'town at 6:30am.

scumdog
4th May 2014, 19:58
What he said, plus cruisers tend to put pressure on your lower back and some suffer a numb arse...... On the bikes Mr B above is talking about this isn't so much of a problem.


Rode my Harley Superglide T-Sport from Nelson to home in one sub ten hour day and could have carried on further if I'd had to.

It depends on the individual whether the bike suits or not.

aum108
4th May 2014, 20:14
Rode my Harley Superglide T-Sport from Nelson to home in one sub ten hour day and could have carried on further if I'd had to.

It depends on the individual whether the bike suits or not.

Guess I'm gonna find out tomorrow. I notice that in upright seating posture, road bumps do communicate up the spine in less than comfortable ways. But I'm finding that a slightly forward riding posture eliminates this effect, and also takes more advantage of the deflector screen.

AllanB
4th May 2014, 20:38
Rode my Harley Superglide T-Sport from Nelson to home in one sub ten hour day and could have carried on further if I'd had to.

It depends on the individual whether the bike suits or not.


That's because your arse was numb and beyond feeling!!! :(;)

aum108
4th May 2014, 20:59
That's because your arse was numb and beyond feeling!!! :(;)

Can anyone please recommend mile-friendly aftermarket seats for a boulevard?

buggerit
4th May 2014, 21:02
Can anyone please recommend mile-friendly aftermarket seats for a boulevard?
Go see Nikki at Boyds and get a Airhawk, bloody great!:yes:

Grubber
5th May 2014, 07:12
If you want disappointment ride a thunderbird

Would be interested to know why!
I've ridden a couple of my mates ones and they were good i thought and that's coming from someone who rides sports bikes mostly.

BIG DOUG
5th May 2014, 19:26
I had always wanted to ride one and we got a trade in at work so took it for a spin and it just didn't do anything for me,the switchgear was average and ride crap but hey other people rave about them.

Flip
8th May 2014, 22:56
296910

Based on the last 9 years on my RK.

The stock screen on the RK takes a lot of beating. The RK has slightly more cornering clearance.
The soft tail handles bad mid corner bumps a little better. Most of the RKs end up with highway pegs on the crash bars.