Why so many UK imports on tradme?

[jimdaworm]

Does anyone know why there seem to be soo many bikes on trademe that have been imported from the UK? :sherlock:

[Biff]

Does anyone know why there seem to be soo many bikes on trademe that have been imported from the UK? :sherlock:

Are they 2 strokes? If so maybe it's due to the fact that the sale of new 2 smokers accross Europe is being phased out, due to the fact that they fail to meet Europe's strict new emmission legislation. Also - if you attempt to get a new MOT (WOF) on a 2 stroke in the UK these days there may be issues with bikes failing to pass the strict emmission tests.

Then again - I may be talking out of my arse. For a change.

[Pixie]

GP Trading in Tauranga have been importing some used bikes from UK

[jimdaworm]

Thanks for your replies, no they havent been 2 stroke ones... I just wondered if they were cheaper or somthing...

[WINJA]

PROLLY CAUSE OF THE DOLLAR DOWN DEAL, B4 YOU COME BACK TO NZ FROM YOUR OE YOU PUT A DOLLAR DOWN ON A FEW BIKES , SEND THEM STRAIGHT BACK TO NZ LEAVE THE UK SELL THEM HERE TO PAY FOR YOUR OE , I KNOW SOMEONE WHO DONE THIS , LAST TIME YOU GO TO THE UK THOUGH

[onearmedbandit]

Wouldn't that be 'pound-down' deal? With the exchange rate you'd want to be careful, that could almost tripple the purchase price!! :lol: :shifty:

[Brian d marge]

The prices at auction here are getting stupid ,,I think ( not just me ) that there is abigger company driving uo the purchase price ,,

thus squeezing profit margin,,,Maybe america and UK look a better prospect ???
I know That bits for me CR are cheaper from the dealer than off the auctions ...strange but true

Stephen

[jimdaworm]

Thats interesting, I have family in the UK and my girl is comming back though there in 2 months, maby I can get her to put a CBR 600 in her luggage :ride:

[snuffles]

Does anyone know why there seem to be soo many bikes on trademe that have been imported from the UK? :sherlock:

because like all things British, they are better made more reliable and have a stiff upper lip......... tally ho.

[dawnrazor]

I know for a fact that the EU as well as basically killing off two strokers has also killed off a bunch of other engines, due to emission levels. So fazer thundercat are both gone, so it stands to reason that the second hand market is full of these bikes and no one wants to buy one over a bike that will be legal to drive in a couple of years time, against one that will not. So its a good guess that countries where the restrictions aren't as hasrh are going to be dumping grounds for for the over stocked second hand market in the UK and europe, sort of like the way we accept in second hand aisian cars but OZ don't.

[scracha]

As someone living there ATM

Nothing to do with emissions laws as it only affects new bikes.

Real reason IMHO

1) Kiwi's 2nd hand bike prices being really high. Brit 2nd hand bike prices being really low
2) Kiwi dollar being pretty strong. British pound being pretty weak.
3) Glut of 2nd hand bikes on the market that dealers can't shift

Reason 3 partly due to
4) Insurance premiums rocketing (and it's compulsory over here)
5) Petrol prices (96 p per litre last time I looked) - Probably affects the Honda sales more <g>
6) Fashion conscious Brit riders being told their sportsbikes are "so last year" by magazines and that they should be riding supermotards or huge trailies.

Also the fact that there are many stupid 40somethings in the UK who buy a bike and then don't ride it. If you don't believe me have a look on www.ebay.co.uk and check out all the 2 or 3 year old bikes with less than 1000Km (often with an accompanying scuff on the fairing where owner has dropped it in the garage).

That's my tuppenceworth.

[WINJA]

As someone living there ATM

Nothing to do with emissions laws as it only affects new bikes.

Real reason IMHO

1) Kiwi's 2nd hand bike prices being really high. Brit 2nd hand bike prices being really low
2) Kiwi dollar being pretty strong. British pound being pretty weak.
3) Glut of 2nd hand bikes on the market that dealers can't shift

Reason 3 partly due to
4) Insurance premiums rocketing (and it's compulsory over here)
5) Petrol prices (96 p per litre last time I looked) - Probably affects the Honda sales more <g>
6) Fashion conscious Brit riders being told their sportsbikes are "so last year" by magazines and that they should be riding supermotards or huge trailies.

Also the fact that there are many stupid 40somethings in the UK who buy a bike and then don't ride it. If you don't believe me have a look on www.ebay.co.uk and check out all the 2 or 3 year old bikes with less than 1000Km (often with an accompanying scuff on the fairing where owner has dropped it in the garage).

That's my tuppenceworth.
AND YOU OWN A TDM (TIDIUM) GET WITH THE PICTURE , GET A NEW BIKE

[jimdaworm]

Hmmmm I will have to go to England and buy a cheap bike then go back and hang out in Spain again, I am sure the insurance is cheaper there :woohoo:

[Artifice]

isnt it funny how wherever third party is compulsory the insurance costs go through the roof. like in aus. must be many more claims or because they have a captive audience that has to have insurance.

[jimdaworm]

If they make it compusory they as well make it a government tax or just add it to the rego... at least that way they wouldnt get sooo ripped off. I met a 20 year old with full license, in Ireland who was paying 2000 pound a year for full insurance for his 1991 ford festiva!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:

[scracha]

AND YOU OWN A TDM (TIDIUM) GET WITH THE PICTURE , GET A NEW BIKE

Got to say, the tedium is the best bike I've owned. Don't think I'd swap it with any other bike...maybe barring a well sorted BMW GS, the new KTM or a 900 TDM!

Definately wouldn't go back to sportsbikes for road use (track days are a different matter). Mind you, the fact that a ZX-10's seat barely reaches my mid thigh has a strong bearing on this. Changing tyres every 3000 miles, back ache, massive depreciation, bouncing out of seat on potholes, high insurance, high servicing costs, worrying about bike theft, 35mpg and never being able to use the top 2 gears are all distant memories.

Anyway, every fule know Suzuki's fall apart (all of mine have).

re: compulsory insurance - One thing it stops is silly yoofs going out and buying Scoobies, Evo's and massive trucks (unless their parents are extremely wealthy and extrememly stupid).

[Mooch]

Go to autotrader.co.uk and do a search on you fav bike. Times the price by 2.57 and that give you the rough NZ price. Eg Ducati 2003/ 4 Ducati 999R , 13,000 pounds = 33,000 NZ Dollars and shipping and gst / stick a number of bikes in a container to keep costs down and you'll get the picture .... Try to find one second hand in NZ for less than 45 - 50 k. Similar for Porsche and Ferrari , most exotics are cheaper here due to numbers and uppies trading on the next squid fashion....

[scracha]

Go to autotrader.co.uk and do a search on you fav bike. Times the price by 2.57 and that give you the rough NZ price. Eg Ducati 2003/ 4 Ducati 999R , 13,000 pounds = 33,000 NZ Dollars and shipping and gst / stick a number of bikes in a container to keep costs down and you'll get the picture .... Try to find one second hand in NZ for less than 45 - 50 k. Similar for Porsche and Ferrari , most exotics are cheaper here due to numbers and uppies trading on the next squid fashion....

You think? Maybe for the newer stuff. Older kit, I don't think so. Maybe take the UK price and multiply it by around 4. Which is a pity as you only get about 2.6 Kiwi for the pound meaning kiwi bikers are getting ripped off by around 50%. The price of some of these $hite old 400's and early 90's stuff just astonishes me.

Infact, even some newer stuff is ridiculous. TDM 900 is a sniff under £5500 (before dealer discounts). NZ price is over 17,000. I'm looking forward to riding in NZ, but not looking forward to paying over the odds for a bike.

On a different note. Do kiwi bikes get taxed at different rates depending on engine size?

[Mooch]

No tax based on Engine size that I know off , It's probably down to economies of scale and shipping costs in smaller numbers. (and with Ducati's the Aussie exclusive importers extra margin) Possible also because of lesser number of bike shops trying to make a living out of selling motorcycles exclusively so need to charge slighty more.
R1's and GSXR1000 are however priced closer to UK markets.

[Timetogo]

the insurance comment was interesting. I bought my bike back from the UK at the end of last year and bike insurance cost a LOT more here than it did in the UK. One of the reasons for bringing it back was it was/is worth more here to. They changed the import laws at the start of this year as well, if you're a returning immigrant you no longer have to pay GST on vehicles either if you've owned it for a while, I missed out on that by 6 weeks :violin:

[Mooch]

Not in the UK long enough to make a real difference to GST on a bike. 999R is tempting at Uk prices though , Stange on insurance , maybe NZ has got silly on large capacity insurance costs . Thought it was dearer here , maybe not on reflection.Maybe you should try JB insurance in Auckland. Premiums can be half that of mainstream companies.

[scracha]

No tax based on Engine size that I know off , It's probably down to economies of scale and shipping costs in smaller numbers. (and with R1's and GSXR1000 are however priced closer to UK markets.

Never really looked at R1's and suchlike. When I've got money for 2 bikes then I'd consider something superdoopersporty again. ZX10, R1, Blade & Gixers are all around 8K GBP new which is rougly 20K NZ at the mo.

Take what you're saying about economies of scale. There's a lot less choice of bikes in NZ too from what I've seen. The dealers don't seem to give much discounts either (in the UK you're normally talking a grand or two (GBP) off the list price for the bigger bikes).

No tax on engine size...now that's just fuckin stupid. You'd think the government would maybe try and encourage small bikes on the roads (perhaps slightly disencouraging larger ones)..

Thank gawd the petrol prices and fantastic roads make up the difference :puke:

[Lou Girardin]

Anyway, every fule know Suzuki's fall apart (all of mine have).

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With you till this rubbish. Heard about dying TDM 850 g/boxes. :nya: