9th Annual Kiwibiker Gathering, Dannevirke, Queen's Birthday Weekend

[figjam]

Moved it to Dannevirke this year for some different roads and because Tokaanu isn't viable any more. We went up last weekend for a reconnaissance mission and mapped out a couple of routes through some cool back roads. Register here 9th Annual Kiwibiker Gathering, Dannevirke, Queen's Birthday Weekend (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=3217&day=2014-5-31) if you're coming.

WHAT IS THE KB GATHERING?
An excuse for social minded motorcycle riders to ride during the day and eat, drink and be merry during the night.

WHAT ARE WE DOING?
Friday
Some of will be arriving on Friday evening. This is optional as the main part of the 'Gathering' is from the Saturday to Monday.

Saturday
Those of us who arrived on Friday will be going for a ride/tiki tour during the day and arriving back at Valhallaz Tavern in good time to greet the rest of you as you arrive. Settle in for the night, eat, drink, tell lies and discuss routes for Sunday.

Sunday
Go for a group ride or multiple group rides depending on numbers. Some of us will be heading away to get back to the South Island. Dinner and drinks back at Valhallaz for those who are staying the night.

Monday
Say our goodbyes and head back home.


WHEN IS IT HAPPENING?
Saturday, May 31st, Sunday, June 1st and Monday, June 2nd. Some of us will be arriving on Friday night.


WHERE ARE WE STAYING?

Valhallaz Tavern
2 Barraud Street
Dannevirke
(07)374 8099
https://www.facebook.com/Valhallaz/info
Prices: http://goo.gl/Xex9QB

Cheap accommodation with a good area in the bar downstairs to get together after the rides.

[1billyboy]

I'm in.:niceone:

[ffirman]

I'm mostly in.. WOF to arrange first...

[TheDemonLord]

So my In-Laws live in Dannevegas and me and the wifey haven't been out of Auckland for a wee while.....

Suddenly a wild Plan is forming......

[TheDemonLord]

*Bump*

I'm on my 250 and will be going down on Friday evening/afternoon (depending on when I can bribe the boss to let me off work)

since this will be my first Loooooon distance trips (have done a few 100 km jaunts, but not Auckland to Dannevirke and back) and wondering if any aucklanders are going for the ride down and if so - would they mind a wee little 250 bike with a great big fat bloke on it tagging along and having someone to ride with?

[figjam]

I'm on my 250 and will be going down on Friday evening/afternoon (depending on when I can bribe the boss to let me off work)


Geez, that's 6 to 7 hours (depending on breaks). What time are you expecting to arrive?

[TheDemonLord]

Late - probably around 10 pm or so

[figjam]

Late - probably around 10 pm or so

Cool, we'll keep the lights on for you;)

[TheDemonLord]

Ill be going straight to the inlaws and more importantly their nice warm fire:wings:

[ducatilover]

Hopefully I will be able to join the fun on my way up the island to Hastings on Sunday if all goes to plan :yes:

[1billyboy]

On my way at 8.30 Friday morning.:soon:

[figjam]

Hopefully I will be able to join the fun on my way up the island to Hastings on Sunday if all goes to plan :yes:

Cool, any idea what time you'll be there?

[ducatilover]

Cool, any idea what time you'll be there?

Not really sorry. Will try get away on Saturday, that way I could stay over in Dannevirke at a mate's

[figjam]

Just private messaged you with my mobile number if you need to contact me for more details etc. Does your mate ride? Bring him along.

[figjam]

On my way at 8.30 Friday morning.:soon:

Sweet, see you there. We should be there late afternoon/early evening.

[TheDemonLord]

will probably only be along for the Sunday group ride and stuff - gotta do stuff with the inlaws on the the Saturday - but might see if I can stick my nose into Valhallaz on the Saturday,

[figjam]

will probably only be along for the Sunday group ride and stuff - gotta do stuff with the inlaws on the the Saturday - but might see if I can stick my nose into Valhallaz on the Saturday,

All good, see you there.

[1billyboy]

Sweet, see you there. We should be there late afternoon/early evening.

Should be there about that time to. Brian has some different roads to ride to get there.

[TheDemonLord]

Arrived all okay - however my Bike has spat its dummy a little - it feels like it is running on 3 out of 4 cylinders (seriously, sounds like a 2 stroke atm) so if any of you are very mechanically minded I wouldn't mind a hand - have already drained the carbs as I thought that was the issue (went onto the reserve a twice on the ride down)

either way - bike was struggling to stay at 100 kph on a straight and level road in top gear, whereas normally it can go all the way up to 150 :(

[figjam]

Arrived all okay - however my Bike has spat its dummy a little - it feels like it is running on 3 out of 4 cylinders (seriously, sounds like a 2 stroke atm) so if any of you are very mechanically minded I wouldn't mind a hand - have already drained the carbs as I thought that was the issue (went onto the reserve a twice on the ride down)

either way - bike was struggling to stay at 100 kph on a straight and level road in top gear, whereas normally it can go all the way up to 150 :(

Bugger! I'm no use, but I'll ask the others.

[sugilite]

Arrived all okay - however my Bike has spat its dummy a little - it feels like it is running on 3 out of 4 cylinders (seriously, sounds like a 2 stroke atm) so if any of you are very mechanically minded I wouldn't mind a hand - have already drained the carbs as I thought that was the issue (went onto the reserve a twice on the ride down)

either way - bike was struggling to stay at 100 kph on a straight and level road in top gear, whereas normally it can go all the way up to 150 :(

Check the spark plugs and leads??? Remove one spark plug at a time, put the spark plug lead back on then holding the rubber/plastic cap so not to electrocute yourself, press the bottom of the spark plug onto clean metal on the cam cover, thumb the started and make sure each plug is sparking ok? I'm 24 km's out of Dannevirke btw

[TheDemonLord]

Bugger! I'm no use, but I'll ask the others.

I might have got to the partial bottom of it - Decided to take out the spanners and attack - pulled out the Air Filter and it is swimming in a pool of Engine Oil.

I also took it for a service just before my trip. Me thinks they have over filled the oil and with the stress and extra heat from long distance riding, it has over flowed and gone up through the carbs.

Am debating whether I will need to take the carbs off and clean them - which is just about outside my skill and experiance to do - if someone is more experiance knowledgable - there will be a beverage of your choice bought by me for you at Valhalla

[sugilite]

I might have got to the partial bottom of it - Decided to take out the spanners and attack - pulled out the Air Filter and it is swimming in a pool of Engine Oil.

I also took it for a service just before my trip. Me thinks they have over filled the oil and with the stress and extra heat from long distance riding, it has over flowed and gone up through the carbs.

Am debating whether I will need to take the carbs off and clean them - which is just about outside my skill and experiance to do - if someone is more experiance knowledgable - there will be a beverage of your choice bought by me for you at Valhalla
Is the filter itself swimming in oil or/and is the airbox itself swimming in oil? Is there a tube running from the top-ish of your motor to your airbox, as if your engine is pressurizing due to being over filled, that overflow tube is the only way oil will be getting to the airbox. Your friendly service mechanic may have just got over enthusiastic when oiling your air filter after cleaning it? =Oil will not be coming up through your carbs, maybe from your airbox through them!
Still check your plugs as I mentioned above, check them for color too, see if any are oily black....

[TheDemonLord]

Is the filter itself swimming in oil or/and is the airbox itself swimming in oil? Is there a tube running from the top-ish of your motor to your airbox, as if your engine is pressurizing due to being over filled, that overflow tube is the only way oil will be getting to the airbox. Your friendly service mechanic may have just got over enthusiastic when oiling your air filter after cleaning it? =Oil will not be coming up through your carbs, maybe from your airbox through them!
Still check your plugs as I mentioned above, check them for color too, see if any are oily black....

Both the Airbox and the Filter were swimming - when I pulled it out, a great flood came forth.

I'm gonna drain the oil a little, I don't think there is a tube running like you described.

will have to pull the tank in order to check the plugs.

Again, offer of free alcohol on me stands

[sugilite]

Both the Airbox and the Filter were swimming - when I pulled it out, a great flood came forth.

I'm gonna drain the oil a little, I don't think there is a tube running like you described.

will have to pull the tank in order to check the plugs.

Again, offer of free alcohol on me stands

The only way for the oil to get from an over filled motor to your airbox is via such a tube.
Yep, pull the tank, check the plugs. :yes:
If you get stuck, let me know. I don't drink, but the car drinks gas. ;)
Will pm you my land line, i got no cell coverage here.

[figjam]

People who know far better than me agree with everything sugilite is saying, so we can't add anything.

[TheDemonLord]

If we get her running right, might stick my nose into Valhallaz today afterall!

[buggerit]

If we get her running right, might stick my nose into Valhallaz today afterall!

Had a quick look on net, seems crankcase breather enters air box LH top, maybe overfill from oil change plus running at higher rpms on cruise and
maybe hotter?
I would check your oil level and run it half way between L and F for the trip home and keep an eye on it when u refuel.
There is a possibility that you have sucked some muck into the fuel filter by running it low(filter looks to be on end of fuel tap in tank) also may help
to drain carbs incase u have sucked a bit of water through.
I would clean up the airbox/filter first and check oil level, give it a decent run and see how I goes, good luck.

[buggerit]

U havent had the bike on its side for any reason?

[TheDemonLord]

UPDATE

Massive MASSIVE Thanks to Sugilite for helping out - bike is still running log a dog :(

We think its the Carbs - will have some dinner then head out to Valhallaz and talk in person


fucking Bike :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad:

[TheDemonLord]

I have got to the point where it looks to be something in the Carb - if I get the Air gun and direct it into the Air intake, it starts to almost rev normally.

Drained the Carbs, cleaned the plugs, may drain the oil a little bit more as after warming the bike up, it is still up and around the Full mark.

At this rate however, it looks like the bike will be going back to auckland not under its own power :no:

[Bikemad]

choke stuck on perhaps?...........dunno bout the oil tho

[nzspokes]

Float valves in the carbs is my call. Did the oil smell of petrol? Seem it a few times. Washes the bore and fills the sump.

Use a lot of petrol getting there?

A test will be to turn off your petcok valve and run the bike. See if it runs better just before it runs out of petrol in the carbs and stops.

[Ocean1]

Float valves in the carbs is my call. Did the oil smell of petrol? Seem it a few times. Washes the bore and fills the sump.

Use a lot of petrol getting there?

A test will be to turn off your petcok valve and run the bike. See if it runs better just before it runs out of petrol in the carbs and stops.

Quite possibly. In which case the oil is rapidly becoming petrol, which isn't much good as a lubricant...

It has a vacuum actuated fuel valve? Otherwise it'd be pissing petrol all over the ground even when stopped.

Edit: actually it would be anyway, just a few cc.

[buggerit]

If your filter is normally a dry filter and it is now soaked with oil, it may be struggling to breath,have you tried running the bike without the air cleaner?

[nzspokes]

Quite possibly. In which case the oil is rapidly becoming petrol, which isn't much good as a lubricant...

It has a vacuum actuated fuel valve? Otherwise it'd be pissing petrol all over the ground even when stopped.

Edit: actually it would be anyway, just a few cc.

Yes think they are vacuum but not 100% on that.

Drain oil, refill. Ride home turning fuel valve on and off. :crazy:

[figjam]

Got home about 1pm today. Mint weather all weekend with some awesome roads and met some cool people. I had to cut the second day short when we came back from a coffee in Paihiatua and spotted a section of tyre on the point of delamination. After fruitless googling and phoning around, I was saved when a couple of the guys collared a passing Motorcycle HQ ute and in no time flat Simon from Motorcycle HQ had found and fitted me a tyre. He's got Pirelli tyres for all kinds of bikes and is thinking of starting a 24 hour callout service so keep them in mind if you're anywhere near and need a hand. He's also got a couple of bikes available to rent if your bike can't be fixed on the spot. Contact details are:
www.motorcyclehq.co.nz (http://www.motorcyclehq.co.nz/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=2&Itemid=91)

We sent the others on because we thought it would take ages to sort the tyre but were back on the road with a couple of extra hours to spare. We set off to find a road I'd done once, from Ashurst to Apiti to the Kimbolton road. It's an awesome road called Poihangina Valley East Road. Unfortunately I missed the turnoff from Poihangina Road to Poihangina Valley East Road and we ended up doing 30km of nasty gravel roads that you shouldn't really take a sportsbike on. All good fun in the end but I wouldn't have chosen to do it.

[1billyboy]

Got home about 1pm today. Mint weather all weekend with some awesome roads and met some cool people. I had to cut the second day short when we came back from a coffee in Paihiatua and spotted a section of tyre on the point of delamination. After fruitless googling and phoning around, I was saved when a couple of the guys collared a passing Motorcycle HQ ute and in no time flat Simon from Motorcycle HQ had found and fitted me a tyre. He's got Pirelli tyres for all kinds of bikes and is thinking of starting a 24 hour callout service so keep them in mind if you're anywhere near and need a hand. He's also got a couple of bikes available to rent if your bike can't be fixed on the spot. Contact details are:
www.motorcyclehq.co.nz (http://www.motorcyclehq.co.nz/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=2&Itemid=91)

We sent the others on because we thought it would take ages to sort the tyre but were back on the road with a couple of extra hours to spare. We set off to find a road I'd done once, from Ashurst to Apiti to the Kimbolton road. It's an awesome road called Poihangina Valley East Road. Unfortunately I missed the turnoff from Poihangina Road to Poihangina Valley East Road and we ended up doing 30km of nasty gravel roads that you shouldn't really take a sportsbike on. All good fun in the end but I wouldn't have chosen to do it.

Had a excellent weekend. Just over 1600km.The Valhallaz Tavern food was great. Most of the roads was a 1st for me. Did the Whanganui River Road on the way down to Dannevirke
Brian and I did the Saddle Road then the Poihangina Valley East Road. Coming out at Mangaweka today. Early morning at this time of the year gave us frost and ice on the road as well as shadows and sun strike. Would be good to do this road in the summer. :drool:

[ducatilover]

It's a shame I couldn't make it :mad: but I got to do a fair few km on one of mine this weekend so that's okay.

Simon at MChq in Pahiatua is a good bloke, pretty well clued up and friendly too :2thumbsup

Thedemonlord, have sent you a PM.
If anybody can help get his bike to Hastings I'll sort it and keep it safe 'til he can pick it up or whatever (might swap the stickers between that and the Bandit, at least the Bandit is more reliable)

[figjam]

These are the routes we took:

Saturday: http://goo.gl/bV6dbj
Sunday: http://goo.gl/Xus0fj

TheDemonLord, any news on your bike?

[TheDemonLord]

These are the routes we took:

Saturday: http://goo.gl/bV6dbj
Sunday: http://goo.gl/Xus0fj

TheDemonLord, any news on your bike?

There is sort of - without going into details - there is a case logged to the disputes tribunal regarding it :mad::mad:

[figjam]

There is sort of - without going into details - there is a case logged to the disputes tribunal regarding it :mad::mad:

I'm disappointed to hear that. I thought they were better than that.

[figjam]

There is sort of - without going into details - there is a case logged to the disputes tribunal regarding it :mad::mad:

The other thing I forgot to say was that if you're looking for somewhere to service your bike, you should go have a talk to AJ at Motohaus underneath Motomail on College Hill