View Full Version : Bizzaro World - Transport agency reduces vision to make junction 'safer'
R650R
18th June 2014, 08:25
Watch this space, reckon this will create more accidents, not to mention risk emergency services who travel this road at high speed.
Eventually someone will run this new stop sign, murphys law and all, but the poor victim wont get any warning due to the screen.
I live not to far from here and there are bugger all crashes compared to other spots and usually come down on the bike drop a couple of gears and lay the bike on its side for a left turn at 50 into the 50 zone coming off the expressway.
Looks like it will be an oh so convenient hiding spot for police though...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11276311
https://www.google.co.nz/maps/dir///@-39.5173415,176.8770549,210m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m3!4m2!1m0!1m0
unstuck
18th June 2014, 09:33
One for akzel from the same page....http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11276319
Devil
18th June 2014, 11:24
I think this is the dumbest thing ive seen... this week.
Seen other instances of poorly sighted intersections recently. I don't see how its going to change the behaviour of those people who don't stop anyway, and just glance up the road. Stupid.
Bald Eagle
18th June 2014, 11:45
Had a round about down our way on SH1 with lots of shruberry in it blicking visibilty, when i enquired of the roading authority abut trimming it was told its deliberate "traffic calming" strategy ffs gotta love lycra clad cycle riding traffic engineers.
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Mazztah
18th June 2014, 12:00
next new initiative is to stop speeding by blindfolding drivers
slofox
18th June 2014, 12:57
One for akzel from the same page....http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11276319
Akzle doesn't chase goats - he just baits them on KB...:whistle:
As for masking visibility, there are a lot of overgrown roundabouts round here for the same reason. Sure makes me feel safe - means I never see the idiot failing to give way until he runs into me.
Gremlin
18th June 2014, 14:06
I... I'm at a loss for words... :facepalm:
Instead of simply enforcing the existing rules, let's make the intersection more dangerous... :eek5:
R650R
25th June 2014, 08:52
And in more Bizarro road safety news in HB, Police (and CVIU even at that) are saying something may be wrong with a corner where several trucks have rolled in recent times. For those familiar with the route its the right hand bend that drops you down onto the Eskdale flats just before one of the speed cameras fav parking spots...
Despite the fact that hundreds of other truckers make it thru DAILY without incident... :facepalm: Is this cop on a secret windup poke at the media, having a chuckle that they reported this nonsense... :scratch:
I find this most interesting as to my knowledge no govt agency has ever admitted that any section of roadway was a measureable cause to an accident. Even one of the worst where the 8 tourists were killed when the van slid on that crappy mess of a tar bleed slippery wet bend into a truck they said nothing wrong with road...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11280630
Ocean1
25th June 2014, 09:31
"traffic calming"
At no time in vehicular history has there ever been a more oxymoronic assembly of words.
Scuba_Steve
25th June 2014, 09:39
next new initiative is to stop speeding by blindfolding drivers
Please don't mention that round NZTA, as the imbeciles that are the NZTA are likely to implement it :facepalm:
Gremlin
25th June 2014, 11:05
And in more Bizarro road safety news in HB, Police (and CVIU even at that) are saying something may be wrong with a corner where several trucks have rolled in recent times. For those familiar with the route its the right hand bend that drops you down onto the Eskdale flats just before one of the speed cameras fav parking spots...
To be fair, I was even stumped with a roundabout that is now part of SH1 at Taupiri. Head south, left at the first roundabout and straight through the second. That second one is seriously off camber, like it was built on the top of a hill... Doesn't seem smart to me...
neels
25th June 2014, 11:24
To be fair, I was even stumped with a roundabout that is now part of SH1 at Taupiri. Head south, left at the first roundabout and straight through the second. That second one is seriously off camber, like it was built on the top of a hill... Doesn't seem smart to me...
Try driving south out of Blenheim from town, 2 roundabouts (one with the railway line through the middle), change lanes each time to keep going straight through. :facepalm:
veldthui
25th June 2014, 11:30
Why should it cause any problems??? It is a STOP sign so you have to STOP where you can see that the way is clear to proceed. Obviously heaps are breaking the law now. Anyone crashing there will more than likely also run the stop sign and thus be breaking the law.
I only pity the poor bastards they crash into.
Gremlin
25th June 2014, 12:23
Try driving south out of Blenheim from town, 2 roundabouts (one with the railway line through the middle), change lanes each time to keep going straight through. :facepalm:
True. Not that I get to use it very often, but every time I approach I remember it's a bit odd...
imdying
25th June 2014, 12:42
This isn't unusual, they place trees down the side of rows to make them appear narrower, which makes the majority drive slower. This sort of practical application of psychology has been around a bit now.
Scuba_Steve
25th June 2014, 12:53
This isn't unusual, they place trees down the side of rows to make them appear narrower, which makes the majority drive slower. This sort of practical application of psychology has been around a bit now.
True that, but it's just getting worse to the point of dangerous...
Gremlin
25th June 2014, 14:29
This isn't unusual, they place trees down the side of rows to make them appear narrower, which makes the majority drive slower. This sort of practical application of psychology has been around a bit now.
Also painting lane lines on wider roads (inc suburbia) to make the lane appear narrower.
imdying
25th June 2014, 14:53
Maybe, maybe not. I don't hold a degree in psychology, civil engineering, or any of the other related fields. I also haven't conducted any research whatsoever. Therefore I couldn't say whether applying this sort of thinking has or hasn't increased, whether it has or hasn't been effective, or if there have or haven't been unintended side effects.
Ocean1
25th June 2014, 15:28
I couldn't say whether applying this sort of thinking has or hasn't increased, whether it has or hasn't been effective, or if there have or haven't been unintended side effects.
Your average shrink will tell you that absolutely everyone will choose unspecified delays if it means a reduction in injuries and fatalities.
Except for themselves.
Especially if it exceeds 5 seconds.
The "temporary" 50k limit at Haywards hill north out of the Hutt valley would make a good case study, we orta poll motorists on the spot to see what they think. Easy enough to do, just measure the 80th percentile of their unrestricted speed there and walla! New speed limit. :rolleyes:
R650R
25th June 2014, 17:57
To be fair, I was even stumped with a roundabout that is now part of SH1 at Taupiri. Head south, left at the first roundabout and straight through the second. That second one is seriously off camber, like it was built on the top of a hill... Doesn't seem smart to me...
I think they've given up on trying to enforce the new SRT static rollover threshold and are resorting to the Darwin method with those new roundabout designs... But in saying that its still something an alert driver can see and judge before hand and drive accordingly...
caspernz
29th June 2014, 19:42
I'm in two minds about the screen idea. If it works as intended...who cares how dumb it appears from the outset?
But yeah, some "traffic calming" measures only make me scratch my head :confused::laugh:
Urano
29th June 2014, 20:29
Had a round about down our way on SH1 with lots of shruberry in it blicking visibilty, when i enquired of the roading authority abut trimming it was told its deliberate "traffic calming" strategy ffs gotta love lycra clad cycle riding traffic engineers.
same here.
bunch of idiots.
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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
scumdog
29th June 2014, 20:34
One for akzel from the same page....http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503462&objectid=11276319
Hahaha..."must spread rep" etc.
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