Dainese Pro Metal RS Gloves - Cheap As

[numbersixteen16]

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/full-metal-rs.html

A mate said he can import some of these for $189 per pair if enough people are interested.
If you are keen, pm me with your email address and I'll give you some info, will need at least 10 people to get them at this price.
I will be grabbing some, so just need 9 more people.

They retail for $350+

[Katman]

So if Dainese's own website lists these at a RRP price of 289 Euros (450 NZD), how is your mate able to sell them for $189?

Chinese knockoffs perhaps?

[sil3nt]

So if Dainese's own website lists these at a RRP price of 289 Euros (450 NZD), how is your mate able to sell them for $189?

Chinese knockoffs perhaps?Indeed. Cheapest I could see on sale was $250 USD. Seems a little too good to be true.

[R650R]

Indeed. Cheapest I could see on sale was $250 USD. Seems a little too good to be true.

Burglary/drug sale proceeds??? #Money #laundering perhaps... Could have got a good wholesale deal, lots of places going bust in states...
BTW Euro not good comparison, stuff always seems way overpriced in Euros vs NZD vs USD...

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/western-union-mystery-shopper.jpg

[numbersixteen16]

I decided to order a single pair at full price, just to see if they are indeed real or not. I'll update with details when they arrive, there were only 3 sizes avaliable as well (M, L, XL)

[Dodgy]

They will be out of China and full price will be US$89, so the 'friend' is very generous and selfless selling them at $189 :blink: I got a set last week, official Dainese bag, instruction manual and all....

They are the real things as Dainese have these made in China. Probably overstock or weekend jobs. Once the masses get onto procurement in this manner, kiss goodbye traditional retail channels.

[R650R]

They will be out of China and full price will be US$89, so the 'friend' is very generous and selfless selling them at $189 :blink: I got a set last week, official Dainese bag, instruction manual and all....

They are the real things as Dainese have these made in China. Probably overstock or weekend jobs. Once the masses get onto procurement in this manner, kiss goodbye traditional retail channels.

So you never saw that fairgo episode on counterfeit goods, with very slick copies of stihl chainsaws etc...
Your gloves may look the part but prob made out of ratskin instead of leather, you wont know until 5m into your next crash... Good luck.

[Dodgy]

No, I didn't, but I have compared them to genuine ones from Revzilla in the US. Identical. Absolutely identical. I could go so far as cut both sets open, but then I would ruin two pairs of good gloves. They would have come from the same factory. I see the same with the likes of Diesel jeans and North Face. There may be many reasons that they are sold through these channels, eg: out of hours manufacture, excess production, end of line, seconds, loss of contract. These are made in China anyway and this price better reflects the price ex factory with local wholesale margin as opposed to the many and varied margins applied once they arrive here.

[R650R]

Well in the chainsaw instance they had even completely copied the official packaging etc and the saw was prob ok for about the first 5 hours of use then...
Packaging for most goods is usually supplied to a factory by a third party. Eg I used to pick up the label reels for Watties goods from a place in Auckland, for the right bribe it would have been quite easy to pass them on to my mate Long Dong Brue and he could have put them on catfood tins or anything and resold etc...
Bravo if you've scored but my money is on counterfeit goods. Take a very close look at the stitching and leather thickness before entrusting your hands to them, especially if doing trackdays or racing...

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/counterfeit-chainsaw-prompts-fears-over-chinese-fakes-5007628

[BigAl]

US $84

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Top-GUA-FULL-METAL-RS-Gloves-genuine-leather-Matal-for-Off-Road-ATV-Motocross-Racing-glove/1644689450.html

[Katman]

There may be many reasons that they are sold through these channels, eg: out of hours manufacture, excess production, end of line, seconds, loss of contract. These are made in China anyway and this price better reflects the price ex factory with local wholesale margin as opposed to the many and varied margins applied once they arrive here.

I doubt very much that a company such as Dainese would shit on their distribution network like that.

[pritch]

Maybe the gloves are cheap because they haven't got the must-have yellow ones in stock? :whistle:

[Tazz]

Good luck with em. Everyone likes to hunt a deal every now and then. Hope they're legit :niceone:


he could have put them on catfood tins

Pretty sure a Watties label on catfood would devalue the contents :sweatdrop

[local]

US $84

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Top-GUA-FULL-METAL-RS-Gloves-genuine-leather-Matal-for-Off-Road-ATV-Motocross-Racing-glove/1644689450.html

Cheaper in black

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Latest-Top-GUA-FULL-METAL-RS-Titanium-Carbon-Fiber-Racing-Gloves-Motorcycle-Riding-Gloves/1882317402.html


These are made in China anyway and this price better reflects the price ex factory with local wholesale margin as opposed to the many and varied margins applied once they arrive here.

Yeah margins like research and development, testing, after sales service, and the sponsorship money to your favourite riders.

[local]

Or you can just get them here 'special order'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/gloves/auction-745829126.htm

That username looks familiar, I just can't remember from where....

[nzspokes]

I decided to order a single pair at full price, just to see if they are indeed real or not. I'll update with details when they arrive, there were only 3 sizes avaliable as well (M, L, XL)

So are you brave enough to give a warranty to say they wont fall apart in a crash?

[nzspokes]

Or you can just get them here 'special order'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/gloves/auction-745829126.htm

That username looks familiar, I just can't remember from where....

Wow what a guy, buys them for $89 and sells for $339. Now what are the laws on selling counterfeit product?

[Gremlin]

Wow what a guy, buys them for $89 and sells for $339. Now what are the laws on selling counterfeit product?
He's offering free shipping though! Except he doesn't list that he's in trade...

[local]

The Fair Trading Act

Section 13. False (or misleading) representations -

No person shall, in trade, in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or services or with the promotion by any means of the supply or use of goods or services,

(a)(make a false or misleading representation) that goods are of a particular kind, standard, quality, grade, quantity, composition, style, or model, or have had a particular history or particular previous use;

Section 26. Importation of goods bearing false trade description -

(1) This section applies to any goods to which a false trade description is applied.

(2) All goods to which this section applies are hereby prohibited to be imported into New Zealand, and shall be deemed to be included among goods prohibited to be imported under (section 54 of the Customs and Excise Act 1996) and the provisions of that Act shall apply to such goods accordingly.

(3) In this section, "false trade description"' means any representation which if made in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or with the promotion by any means of the supply or use of goods would constitute a contravention of section 13(a), (d), or (j) of this Act.

(4) For the purposes of subsection (1) of this section, a false trade description shall be deemed to be applied to goods if -

(a) It is woven in, impressed on, worked into, or annexed or affixed to the goods; or

(b) It is applied to a covering, label, reel, or thing in or with which the goods are supplied.

(5) For the purposes of this section, a trade mark is not a representation.

Only the courts can decide if the Act has been breached. Breaches of the Act may result in prosecution in court. Companies found guilty of breaching provisions of the Act may be fined up to $200,000 and individuals up to $60,000.


I think that's pretty clear. Although there is some argument that they are 'genuine' in the fact they may be made in the same factory, but not under licence or perhaps to the same standard that paying a proper supplier would guarantee.


Try being on a tour bus going through Italian borders - they are not forgiving regarding counterfeit stuff. To the degree that they will confiscate it, while detaining you until you pay the difference between the full price of the genuine item and the fake item. Good deterrent huh?

[Erelyes]

The thing is that they most likely ARE made in the same factory, with the same parts. Bar one or two minor differences.

Alpinestars have the same issue with some of their gloves (GP pro maybe?). They are almost identical, however the knock-offs do not have a yellow kevlar lining on the inside of the glove. Would the knockoffs do as good in a crash? Depends on what sort of crash you're planning to have...

[imdying]

Well in the chainsaw instance they had even completely copied the official packaging etc and the saw was prob ok for about the first 5 hours of use then...Yep, that is exactly what they do.


Try being on a tour bus going through Italian borders - they are not forgiving regarding counterfeit stuff. To the degree that they will confiscate it, while detaining you until you pay the difference between the full price of the genuine item and the fake item. Good deterrent huh?lol Italy, pretty cunty thing to do to your tourists... #justfascistthings

[numbersixteen16]

Yea guys, sorry I jumped the gun a bit. My mate from work said they are either $249 or $189 each for 10 or more, I thought they would then be legit, but I looked at some of the stuff he's previously imported and it doesn't seem to be authentic. He is Korean so (not to be racist) I should have picked up on them being shoddy imports. A bit embarrassing that I've already advertised them to you guys (and put them on trademe).
I ended up ordering a few items (the ones on trademe), and will check their quality to see how good they really are if anyone is still interested.

[numbersixteen16]

The Fair Trading Act

Section 13. False (or misleading) representations -

No person shall, in trade, in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or services or with the promotion by any means of the supply or use of goods or services,

(a)(make a false or misleading representation) that goods are of a particular kind, standard, quality, grade, quantity, composition, style, or model, or have had a particular history or particular previous use;

Section 26. Importation of goods bearing false trade description -

(1) This section applies to any goods to which a false trade description is applied.

(2) All goods to which this section applies are hereby prohibited to be imported into New Zealand, and shall be deemed to be included among goods prohibited to be imported under (section 54 of the Customs and Excise Act 1996) and the provisions of that Act shall apply to such goods accordingly.

(3) In this section, "false trade description"' means any representation which if made in connection with the supply or possible supply of goods or with the promotion by any means of the supply or use of goods would constitute a contravention of section 13(a), (d), or (j) of this Act.

(4) For the purposes of subsection (1) of this section, a false trade description shall be deemed to be applied to goods if -

(a) It is woven in, impressed on, worked into, or annexed or affixed to the goods; or

(b) It is applied to a covering, label, reel, or thing in or with which the goods are supplied.

(5) For the purposes of this section, a trade mark is not a representation.

Only the courts can decide if the Act has been breached. Breaches of the Act may result in prosecution in court. Companies found guilty of breaching provisions of the Act may be fined up to $200,000 and individuals up to $60,000.


I think that's pretty clear. Although there is some argument that they are 'genuine' in the fact they may be made in the same factory, but not under licence or perhaps to the same standard that paying a proper supplier would guarantee.


Try being on a tour bus going through Italian borders - they are not forgiving regarding counterfeit stuff. To the degree that they will confiscate it, while detaining you until you pay the difference between the full price of the genuine item and the fake item. Good deterrent huh?

Actually, after reading through this I don't want to import at all, even for myself. Now I'm really embarrassed...

[f2dz]

Or you can just get them here 'special order'

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/gloves/auction-745829126.htm

That username looks familiar, I just can't remember from where....


http://www.dainese.com/us_en/full-metal-rs.html

A mate said he can import some of these for $189 per pair if enough people are interested.
If you are keen, pm me with your email address and I'll give you some info, will need at least 10 people to get them at this price.
I will be grabbing some, so just need 9 more people.

They retail for $350+

A mate eh?

[Tazz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/laromo/odd%20stuff/popcorn20mucher.gif

[Katman]

Fuckin' cagers.

[BigAl]

A mate eh?


Lol, busted!

[R650R]

I hope your mate at least knows two broke girls so you get something out of the deal!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/5f95009d06768ec0c436cb32a4b460f1/tumblr_mvs3z6ywWh1qc8jh0o1_500.gif

[Berries]

He is Korean so (not to be racist) I should have picked up on them being shoddy imports.
There's your answer, the palms were made of labradoodle rather than kangaroo. Cheap as chips and just as tasty.

[Dodgy]

It is easy to figure out. 'Entrepreneur' numbersixteen16 sees some cheap name brand stuff like Dainese and Alpinestar on Aliexpress, figures that no one else on trademe or KB has seen it yet, offers it up for a couple of hundy on KB and $329 on Trademe. Gets nobbled and blames it on his Asian friend, Mr Snuffleupagus. Can't really blame someone for make 250% margin, that is the kind of thing retailers do. Except, he isn't too clever and leaves the Trademe ad up.

Of course, I could be completely wrong and the asian mate is genuinely importing this stuff from the good old US of A and trying to help us out....

[nzspokes]

Now I'm really embarrassed...

As you should be. Mind you it seems not enough to pull the multiple auctions you have running.



So a rider buys this shit thinking its legit. Goes for a slide and the gear fails, what would do then?

[Stevee2]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/armour/auction-745839755.htm

Not to mention the back protector that 'may require back order which will extend delivery to 1 month'. Drop shipping as well. Tut tut tut.

[Muppet]

Yea guys, sorry I jumped the gun a bit. My mate from work said they are either $249 or $189 each for 10 or more, I thought they would then be legit, but I looked at some of the stuff he's previously imported and it doesn't seem to be authentic. He is Korean so (not to be racist) I should have picked up on them being shoddy imports. A bit embarrassing that I've already advertised them to you guys (and put them on trademe).
I ended up ordering a few items (the ones on trademe), and will check their quality to see how good they really are if anyone is still interested.

a) Nice backtrack.
b) you're busted.
c) we're not stupid.

[haydes55]

c) we're not stupid.


Speak for yourself!