Tell us the politicians you like/dislike [Archive]

Winston001

25th July 2014, 16:09

May go nowhere but for yucks 'n stuff, with an election looming, what politicians do you like and who would you cross the street to avoid.

My picks

National: no confidence in Murray McCully, Maurice Wiliamson, or Gerry Brownlee. Dislike Nick Smith but he is capable. The rest of National - do like Chris Finlayson, Judith Collins and Bill English, the rest are good enough or below the radar.

Labour: dislike Silent T and don't respect him. Dislike Mallard too but he's genuine and effective.
I do like David Shearer, Grant Robertson, Chris Hipkins, Jacinda Adern, and Damien O'Connor. Weirdly more Labour MPs spring to mind than other parties.

Green: don't actively dislike any of them. But Russel Norman, Metiria Turei, and Gareth Hughes are so negative, never coming up with actual plans, that they are annoying. I do like Kevin Hague.

ACT: fuggedabodit

NZ First: Nope. Nuthin.

Internet Mana: respect Laila Harre. Can't stand John Minto even if he's been consistent through decades.

There are others but thats enough.

Akzle

25th July 2014, 16:30

jesus, noone gives a fuck any more! get over it. it just doesn't matter.

Berries

25th July 2014, 16:46

Don't like or dislike, just don't care.

buggerit

25th July 2014, 17:27

Knickers on or off?:blip:

mashman

25th July 2014, 17:42

Come on fellas, here's your chance to support your locally chosen government puppet, ya know, the ones you're going to vote for.

R650R

25th July 2014, 17:44

All of them lol..

Tazz

25th July 2014, 17:57

Don't like or dislike, just don't care.

This. Have lost faith. No matter what they say before being voted in they never follow through and each government fucks up more than they ever fix it seems.

Madness

25th July 2014, 17:59

What's not to like? False teeth might be an enhancement but that's true for any woman, innit?

http://www.nzwomansweekly.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/F_Jacinda.jpg

Akzle

25th July 2014, 18:01

Knickers on or off?:blip:

i go "comando" bro

Oakie

25th July 2014, 18:07

John Banks I disliked intensly but he's gone now so all good.
Russel Norman is a whiner
Winston Peters blusters all the time. He is a very good orator which I find dangerous as people will believe the shit he spouts because he packages it strongly. (Adolf Hitler was also very good in that way).
Cunliffe gives me the same impression that Banks did ... says the words appropriate for the moment but I don't think he's earnest. (eg, his recent apology for being a man)

I'm pretty neutral about the rest of them. I think most do get into politics for the rights reasons and they work very hard so I don't like to criticise them personally.

Oooh, I can feel those internet flames coming...

unstuck

25th July 2014, 19:00

Winny.:niceone:

jim.cox

25th July 2014, 21:08

DisLike: Gerry "The Fat Contoller" BrownLie

DisTrust: John "Shonkey Donkey" Key

DisRespect: Cunliffe

Don't Vote - The Government Will Get In !

Katman

26th July 2014, 10:50

For her tireless efforts regarding animal welfare issues and disability issues (along with the fact that she has her own disability to deal with in the process of doing her job) I have a great degree of respect for Mojo Mathers.

trustme

26th July 2014, 11:46

BuzzardNZ

26th July 2014, 12:57

Winny.:niceone:

+1 He'll be getting my vote.

oldrider

26th July 2014, 18:57

Tariana Turia ... zero to hero! ... May not always agree with her but have to respect her she is honest and grew with responsibility a great NZ Maori IMHO! :first:

gjm

26th July 2014, 21:45

caspernz

26th July 2014, 23:50

Respect John Key , Steven Joyce, Crusher, Paula Bennett, Tim Groser, Shaples, Tariana Turia [ never thought I would say that a few years ago ] Annette King , Damien O'connor, Kelvin Davis, Clayton Cosgrove, David Shearer [ just too nice to win ]

Disrepect Willamson , Cunnliffe , Mallard , Dunne , Mahuta / Russell ,

Contempt Winston , Hone , Harre since she teamed up with the fat foreigner , I figured she had some integrity , I already knew Hone was bereft of any such thing.

Ditto. Respect as opposed to like that first group. Politics is brutal and it changes folks.

That fat foreigner will fool a few folks, shame to see Laila fall for the sound of money...easy to see why Hone did though, out of options does that.

MisterD

27th July 2014, 12:07

See everyone I know who's met JK has good things to say, the one person I know who's met Cunners was quite scathing of his arrogance and self importance...that person is a Labour candidate though...

What will these rumours of an affair between Cunners and Mai Chen do for his reputation? He doesn't poll well with women at the mo.

Brian d marge

27th July 2014, 12:18

Like : any of them that follow the IMF rules

Dislike: Do gooders and people that are in front of me when Im shopping for my Telly

Stephen

fridayflash

27th July 2014, 13:34

i really like and respect john key (yes seriously) but winston is my main man (yes seriously again) the greens do nothing for me, ditto labour (self employed painter aint working class innit?) although i thoroughly like damian oconnor, the only working class type left in the party, shane jones was a good enough bloke, as was dover samuels a few years back. jacinta adearn is a very good poli, but waay to left for me, i always feel her type would bring any and all industry to there knees if given a free reign, she also was president of the socialist youth mob (aligned with the poor buggers that got shot up in norway). i grew up pretty hardup, and to thoroughly working class parents but i never liked the unionist types and lean centre/right where i feel much of the common sense is.

my two cents...

ellipsis

27th July 2014, 13:57

...I detest the new 'carreer politicians '. who dont really give a fuck about their ideologies, just whether they are on a 'list'...my 'cuz, (a twat) was hooked up with one of these...a visit to our place 'politicking', two elections ago, and she was with one party... it got hammered...next election she changed tack, almost 180 degrees... got hammered again...now the fat fucked up piece of shit is back on another 'horse' and has her, ' fat, riding the gravy train face' on electoral posters all round town...as an aside, my 'cuz, the cunt', was a bit of a man around town and had a bit of sway in some quarters...it didn't work out for her and he was flicked within days of her defeat...cunts like that deserve each other...we dont...what ever happened to 'statesmen'...

Brian d marge

27th July 2014, 15:48

Vote for me

As i have repeatedly said .

I will do fk all
I will buy silk underwear
I will vote for anything that makes me look good and gets me more money

And most importantly

I will abuse belameys oh boy will i　spank its arse

Vote for me
Vote for excess

Stephen

Oh ps and ill take a pay rise to pay for those five star hotels and flights 　

Hitcher

27th July 2014, 17:05

What's not to like? False teeth might be an enhancement but that's true for any woman, innit?

My Little Pony does politics?

Madness

27th July 2014, 17:08

My Little Pony does politics?

Giddy up!

And some additional characters.

Bikemad

27th July 2014, 17:25

Tariana Turia ... zero to hero! ... May not always agree with her but have to respect her she is honest and grew with responsibility a great NZ Maori IMHO! :first:

wasn't she was one of the maggots that helped Titiwhai Harawira and extended family beat up the 14 year old mentally handicapped boy placed in their care at the Maori psyc unit at carrington in the early eightys ? she then went on to almost deliberatly running someone over in west auckland one day....good fuckin riddence i say......apologies for the shit spelling

I do like this guy however
http://www.whittakers.co.nz/site-media/advertisements/videos/Member.mp4

oldrider

27th July 2014, 19:44

wasn't she was one of the maggots that helped Titiwhai Harawira and extended family beat up the 14 year old mentally handicapped boy placed in their care at the Maori psyc unit at carrington in the early eightys ? she then went on to almost deliberatly running someone over in west auckland one day....good fuckin riddence i say......apologies for the shit spelling

I do like this guy however
http://www.whittakers.co.nz/site-media/advertisements/videos/Member.mp4 (Can't open this!)

I don't know that Tariana was involved with Titiwhai because they are from different locations but??????

I did not like her at the start and it took a lot for her to win me over to respecting her but I do now! (on what I think I know about her!)

IMHO she lost a lot of rough edges, stuck to her guns and seemed to represent the Maori community well on her key platform points!

Not that I would ever admit it to my wife ... I do get things wrong sometimes ... well maybe once anyway ... or did we manage to overturn that? :scratch:

MisterD

28th July 2014, 08:22

I did not like her at the start and it took a lot for her to win me over to respecting her but I do now! (on what I think I know about her!)

IMHO she lost a lot of rough edges, stuck to her guns and seemed to represent the Maori community well on her key platform points!

She did do well with the "Aunty Tari" persona, didn't she? Sugar on the pill of increasing pandering to the racist separatists under Key and Finlayson. Scratch the surface and I bet there's still the same blame-whitey-for-everything, "gangs are just another form of whanau" leech underneath.

willytheekid

28th July 2014, 09:49

Dislike - All of them!

Like - the dead ones!

Every single one of them, self serving, lying, corrupt peices of crap that would happily sell this country & its people out for a fast buck or personal gain.

Seriously!, look at the chocie we have this election...two parties in it, one - Nat, sell it all for personal and corporate gain...make trade deals with countries like China, Columbia, Indonesia, mexico (What do they ALL have in common?...gross corruption at Govt levels!)

The other option- Labour!...couldn't organise a piss up in a leeking brewery even if you supplied the cups!.

So theres ya ONLY choice's...corruption & greed or Idiots!...NZ politcis summed up, and "democracy" in a nice "controlled" environment...just a shame that all the choice & control is theres!...not the public's.

I say...KILL EM ALL!:2guns: (set an example to those who think that personal gain comes before the needs of the people), then, once the "mess" has been removed, use technology to rebuild a better system that works for the people!...not the politicians and there "party supporters"

NOTHING BUT SCUM!...the lot of them!:motu:

ellipsis

28th July 2014, 10:00

Dislike - All of them!

corrupt peices of crap

sell it all for personal and corporate gain... ...gross corruption at Govt levels!)

...couldn't organise a piss up in a leaking brewery...

Idiots!... "democracy" in a nice "controlled" environment...
I say...

..KILL EM ALL!:

NOTHING BUT SCUM!:

...yip...when can we do it...

slofox

28th July 2014, 10:01

willytheekid

28th July 2014, 10:28

...yip...when can we do it...

Dunno :confused:...Im still waiting for the word too :laugh:

Just completely given up on politic's...there all just the same, in it for there own profit and greed, and always at the expense of the people.

...Duck them all!!

http://cdn.themetapicture.com/media/funny-riot-duck-people.jpg
..wait:confused:...wot??

Banditbandit

28th July 2014, 12:55

who would you cross the street to avoid.

All off them - Politicians should be terminated after nine months ..

MisterD

28th July 2014, 13:03

Which reminds me, I narrowly avoided being run-over by Carol Beaumont when I was crossing the road a couple of years ago. Apparently the indicators on her sign-written Labour party car, don't work.

Swoop

28th July 2014, 13:03

Any polly who shoves their vote begging pamphlet into my mailbox, despite prominent "NO JUNK MAIL" stickers all over it, loses my potential vote.

I meanta say, if a political pamphlet isn't junk mail what is?

Fuckers. :mad:

:rofl:
Brilliant! I'll put a sign on my letterbox to that affect immediately!
Perhaps "For every piece of your parties junkmail that is put in here, I'll personally smash down one of your billboard hoardings!"

Brian d marge

28th July 2014, 13:06

Which reminds me, I narrowly avoided being run-over by Carol Beaumont when I was crossing the road a couple of years ago. Apparently the indicators on her sign-written Labour party car, don't work.

Normal labour indicators , unsure of which direction thus making indicators redundent .

Stephen

SPman

28th July 2014, 13:30

So.....from most of the comments....I assume KB is block voting National ?

:eek5: :wacko:

slofox

28th July 2014, 15:34

:rofl:
Brilliant! I'll put a sign on my letterbox to that affect immediately!
Perhaps "For every piece of your parties junkmail that is put in here, I'll personally smash down one of your billboard hoardings!"

D'ya mind if I copy that idea? :devil2:

All I did was email that conservative twat and tell him I don't vote for anyone who ignores the sign. No reply yet though...:no:

Banditbandit

28th July 2014, 15:40

D'ya mind if I copy that idea? :devil2:

All I did was email that conservative twat and tell him I don't vote for anyone who ignores the sign. No reply yet though...:no:

He only replies to his supporters ..

slofox

28th July 2014, 15:46

He only replies to his supporters ..

Supporters...hmmmm...you mean jockstraps?

Swoop

28th July 2014, 16:18

D'ya mind if I copy that idea? :devil2:
All yours. Help yourself!:yes:

awa355

29th July 2014, 08:34

Had an uncle who started voting in the early 1930's. At the time of his death in 1990, he had never voted for a succesful party at any election. I dont think my record for voting for a winning party is much better:laugh::laugh:

mashman

29th July 2014, 08:46

D'ya mind if I copy that idea? :devil2:

All I did was email that conservative twat and tell him I don't vote for anyone who ignores the sign. No reply yet though...:no:

Maybe hand deliver it back to him so that he can save money by passing it on to someone that wants the literature?

Naki Rat

29th July 2014, 09:19

I really dislike John Key. It's perhaps irrational, but the first time I ever saw him on TV I felt he epitomises everything that is wrong about politicians. Arrogant, evasive, smarmy, couldn't give a straight answer to a straight question... Add his apparent desire to be CEO of NZ Inc, and simply sell out to the highest bidder, and you have an individual I'll never vote for.An image of JK in his past employ beavering away at a back desk in "Wolf of Wall Street" style does come to mind. Keeping his head low and dreaming of one day having a whole country to take to the trading floor :shifty:

Nix Myth - ACC, same tactics now, resign again? Enough said!

Silent T has real credibility issues. Shearer was honest but unfortunately the system chewed him up and spat him out.

Winny is good entertainment on the hoardings or cross benches but too loose to allow any real authority.

The Greens have a good group of MPs who stay focussed on their agenda. Negative perhaps but that's just an idication of the issues they/NZ are facing.

Hone is being kept out the limelight by Dotcom and Harre so less amusing than usual but I can't see that lasting.

Dunne - Nat's lap dog.

mashman

29th July 2014, 09:25

An image of JK in his past employ beavering away at a back desk in "Wolf of Wall Street" style does come to mind. Keeping his head low and dreaming of one day having a whole country to take to the trading floor :shifty:

Nix Myth - ACC, same tactics now, resign again? Enough said!

Silent T has real credibility issues. Shearer was honest but unfortunately the system chewed him up and spat him out.

Winny is good entertainment on the hoardings or cross benches but too loose to allow any real authority.

The Greens have a good group of MPs who stay focussed on their agenda. Negative perhaps but that's just an idication of the issues they/NZ are facing.

Hone is being kept out the limelight by Dotcom and Harre so less amusing than usual but I can't see that lasting.

Dunne - Nat's lap dog.

You forgot ACT (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24570885/nats-deal-with-act-described-as-a-rort/)

MisterD

29th July 2014, 09:28

Dunne - Nat's lap dog.

That's unfair. He's an equal opporunity lapdog and will support anyone who gives him the Minister of Revenue portfolio (well chosen to be boring and therefore un-coveted by MP's from the Govt-leading party) and a seat in a Beemer.

Naki Rat

29th July 2014, 10:32

You forgot ACT (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24570885/nats-deal-with-act-described-as-a-rort/)So has everyone else :rolleyes:

MisterD

29th July 2014, 10:39

You forgot ACT (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/24570885/nats-deal-with-act-described-as-a-rort/)

No, ACT are there so that Key can blame them for policy that might be unpopular, so he doesn't have to take the blame. Exhibit A: Charter Schools.

How is what ACT and the Nats do, any different from Green candidates standing in electorates and saying "only give us your Party Vote" so they don't split the left electorate vote? John Key doesn't actually get to cast Epsom residents votes for them you know.

Akzle

29th July 2014, 18:58

ohn Key doesn't actually get to cast Epsom residents votes for them you know.

hey!

shit's confusing, yo.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11275044

mashman

29th July 2014, 20:24

No, ACT are there so that Key can blame them for policy that might be unpopular, so he doesn't have to take the blame. Exhibit A: Charter Schools.

How is what ACT and the Nats do, any different from Green candidates standing in electorates and saying "only give us your Party Vote" so they don't split the left electorate vote? John Key doesn't actually get to cast Epsom residents votes for them you know.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. That it has come to that is seriously feckin sad though.

I added ACT to someone's list. You're right, I see absolutely no different between them, any of them. Like the vote matters.

Banditbandit

30th July 2014, 09:23

Love this one ... From Vic Uni's student mag ... (Some things just come back to haunt you ... )

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p296x100/10471111_10152591659765350_7475192878899278312_n.j pg?oh=7af7ef3b0543cd07b8a2d64bff480b76&oe=5438A7FC&__gda__=1414870787_76323f58981a48ae3a32d215c5dea52 c

HenryDorsetCase

30th July 2014, 09:34

Paula Bennett: class traitor.

best graffiti from the last election campaign

I hate all politicians. When I rule you all (and I will) they will be put to death and replaced with a functioning AI.

ellipsis

30th July 2014, 09:59

Paula Bennett: .

...I thought this thread was about like/dislike...not utter loathing ...(not sure if that is even a strong enough word)...

mashman

30th July 2014, 11:48

Well all will be just shiny once joyce confirms that the govt is going to take over the Novopay system. Frying pan into fire springs to mind. Joyce should be your best friend.

HenryDorsetCase

30th July 2014, 12:22

this is worth a click:

http://colincraig.co.nz/

mada

30th July 2014, 12:28

this is worth a click:

hahahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa :clap:

Ocean1

30th July 2014, 13:33

I neither like or dislike most of them, not actually having met them. But I also know that people are massively pre-disposed to like or dislike politicians based on whether they're in "our team" or not. so it's hardly a indication of any politicians actual merit.

The behaviour I expect of a politician is that he does what he says he will, or at the very least does what he can to advance the objectives his voters employed him for.

The behaviour I dislike in any politician is that of promising their supporters far more in benefits than they've actually earned. An objective that must logically be directly offset by denying others the benefits of their own making.

MisterD

30th July 2014, 16:05

Love this one ... From Vic Uni's student mag ...

Paula Bennett went to Massey though.

mada

30th July 2014, 18:06

Paula Bennett went to Massey though.

She wrote it when she was President of the Massey University Student Association - it has been published in many student mags over the last few years to demonstrate how much of hypocrite she is, along with details of the all the other benefits she scraped but had used herself before cos it was "too hard for her to work".

Highlighting her "do what I say, not what I do" rhetoric.

Winston001

30th July 2014, 21:44

Respect ...Tariana Turia [ never thought I would say that a few years ago ]...

Contempt... Harre since she teamed up with the fat foreigner, I figured she had some integrity.

Agreed and you've changed my mind on Harree. She must be desperate to get back into politics.

Winston001

30th July 2014, 21:47

Nick Smith in trouble for threatening to remove Fish and Game's powers. What an arrogant goose.

Winston001

30th July 2014, 21:54

mashman

30th July 2014, 22:16

Why have the media missed this? There has been any amount of noise about donations to politicians (ironically from David Cunliffe who himself received secret donations).

But Kim Dot Com's act makes everything else pale into insignificance. For $3 million he gets a seat in Parliament via Hone Harawira plus maybe a few more seats too. If the stars align he will have enough influence to change the law to avoid extradition.

Buying a seat in Parliament is about as blatant and corrupt as you can get. But nobody has noticed? :pinch:

That is how government has been formed in the UK for at least 3 decades. We've likely all noticed, but if you have money you must be successful, therefore eminently more qualified to make better decisions than those who don't have money. Odd that you're complaining about Mr Dotcom when he's merely following current political etiquette.

avgas

31st July 2014, 03:13

Tariana Turia ... zero to hero! ... May not always agree with her but have to respect her she is honest and grew with responsibility a great NZ Maori IMHO!
I hate to agree with you. But when I look for the lesser of the evils............

Naki Rat

31st July 2014, 09:40

Nick Smith in trouble for threatening to remove Fish and Game's powers. What an arrogant goose.And now he is justifying the inclusion of the Maui's Dolphins' protection area in the recently awarded offshore mining licence on the grounds of (very questionably reasoned) economic return. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/10330326/Dolphin-policy-costs-billions)

Minister of Conservation, of what? :shifty:

mashman

31st July 2014, 09:51

Minister of Conservation, of what? :shifty:

I don't know. Can you spell it out for me please :D

HenryDorsetCase

31st July 2014, 10:09

Why have the media missed this? There has been any amount of noise about donations to politicians (ironically from David Cunliffe who himself received secret donations).

But Kim Dot Com's act makes everything else pale into insignificance. For $3 million he gets a seat in Parliament via Hone Harawira plus maybe a few more seats too. If the stars align he will have enough influence to change the law to avoid extradition.

Buying a seat in Parliament is about as blatant and corrupt as you can get. But nobody has noticed? :pinch:

nobody cares because of his very careful, thorough and successful charm offensive.

Ze Chermans are very thorough ven instigating ze blitzkreig

HenryDorsetCase

31st July 2014, 10:10

And now he is justifying the inclusion of the Maui's Dolphins' protection area in the recently awarded offshore mining licence on the grounds of (very questionably reasoned) economic return. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/10330326/Dolphin-policy-costs-billions)

Minister of Conservation, of what? :shifty:

Nuck Smuth is a cunt.

oldrider

31st July 2014, 10:24

Nuck Smuth is a cunt.

A cunt's useful until it gets to his size! :sick:

MisterD

31st July 2014, 11:26

Minister of Conservation, of what? :shifty:

The industries that pay our welfare bill?

Number of Maui dolphins killed by oil industry activity in the last 40 years: Zip, zilch, zero, nada.

Every single recorded death due to human activity was due to set-netting. Which government extended the set-net ban to all areas where Maui dolphins have been confirmed sighted? The current one.

Naki Rat

31st July 2014, 12:14

The industries that pay our welfare bill?If so he is working outside of the responsibilities of his ministerial portfolio and he also therefore obviously has a conflict of interests.

MisterD

31st July 2014, 12:30

If so he is working outside of the responsibilities of his ministerial portfolio and he also therefore obviously has a conflict of interests.

If you ask me, he's in the wrong bloody party.

Naki Rat

31st July 2014, 12:37

If you ask me, he's in the wrong bloody party.Probably, but nobody else wants him!

oldrider

31st July 2014, 13:17

If you ask me, he's in the wrong bloody party.

I have always thought that! . (but NZ politicians are party interchangable anyway when it gets right down to the nitty gritty!)

unstuck

31st July 2014, 18:04

Nuck Smuth is a cunt.

True dat, met him at a DOC do once, what an arrogant up himself lowlife tosser. Told him so too, cost me my job but what the fuck, I believe in calling a fuckwit a fuckwit.:yes:

Swoop

31st July 2014, 19:35

Nick Smith in trouble for threatening to remove Fish and Game's powers. What an arrogant goose.
Nick Smith = twat.

Fish & game... They certainly need reeling in with their fucked-up ideas and approaches to "conservation". Sadly, nick is right on this one. If only he'd do the same with DoC, since both need a reality check.

Ocean1

31st July 2014, 19:57

The industries that pay our welfare bill?

Number of Maui dolphins killed by oil industry activity in the last 40 years: Zip, zilch, zero, nada.

Every single recorded death due to human activity was due to set-netting. Which government extended the set-net ban to all areas where Maui dolphins have been confirmed sighted? The current one.

Aye. But when the individual in question is SUCH an arsehole nobody will thank you for providing facts that make him look good.

Winston001

31st July 2014, 20:50

Fish & game... They certainly need reeling in with their fucked-up ideas and approaches to "conservation". Sadly, nick is right on this one. If only he'd do the same with DoC, since both need a reality check.

Interesting. Can you explain a bit more?

MisterD

1st August 2014, 12:37

Poor old Cunners, it's a tough job when you're constantly trying to work out what people want you to be like :shifty: so you can pretend to be it...John Key's been on the wagon since his holiday, the Ginga Economic Incompetent since the budget in May, DC thinks "oops, I'd better do that too" and vows to give up for the rest of the campaign.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10335125/Party-leaders-give-up-alcohol

I bet even Cunliffe doesn't know who the real David is by now :laugh::laugh:

Banditbandit

1st August 2014, 12:48

I bet even Cunliffe doesn't know who the real David is by now :laugh::laugh:

What !!! You mean there's a real one out there??? He's not just a PR fake???

MisterD

1st August 2014, 12:53

He's not just a PR fake???

Why would anyone come up with a fake that was so bad? Oh, right, Labour Party. As you were.

oldrider

1st August 2014, 14:18

Why would anyone come up with a fake that was so bad? Oh, right, Labour Party. As you were.

Just change that to "flake" and you got it in one! :killingme

HenryDorsetCase

1st August 2014, 16:56

Nick Smith = twat.

Fish & game... They certainly need reeling in with their fucked-up ideas and approaches to "conservation". Sadly, nick is right on this one. If only he'd do the same with DoC, since both need a reality check.

riiiiiiight. "reality check"

that usually means "its OK for your cows to shit in our rivers because squeezing cows is the basis of the national prosperity". Not only is it flat wrong, it is unnecessary, completely unsustainable, and ignores every other user of the myriad inland waterways affected. That and irrigation uptake (and wastage) are two pet peeves of mine.

Simple solutions such as hard surfacing, turning effluent into fertiliser, fencing waterways etc.

When I first started whitewater kayaking in the '80's you could (and we did) drink the water from ANY of the rivers we used to go to. If anyone had brought a water bottle we would have ridiculed them.

now you just cannot do that. Giardia, crypospiridium, cow shit, reduction in volume due to irrigation. And for what? So a public good can be subverted for the economic interests of a few (and of course, through debt payments) be channelled off shore. What is left? stinking dead ecosystems where once were rivers.

Nup you're wrong.

HenryDorsetCase

1st August 2014, 16:58

puddytat

1st August 2014, 17:27

awa355

1st August 2014, 18:15

Brian d marge

1st August 2014, 18:21

riiiiiiight. "reality check"

that usually means "its OK for your cows to shit in our rivers because squeezing cows is the basis of the national prosperity". Not only is it flat wrong, it is unnecessary, completely unsustainable, and ignores every other user of the myriad inland waterways affected. That and irrigation uptake (and wastage) are two pet peeves of mine.

Simple solutions such as hard surfacing, turning effluent into fertiliser, fencing waterways etc.

When I first started whitewater kayaking in the '80's you could (and we did) drink the water from ANY of the rivers we used to go to. If anyone had brought a water bottle we would have ridiculed them.

now you just cannot do that. Giardia, crypospiridium, cow shit, reduction in volume due to irrigation. And for what? So a public good can be subverted for the economic interests of a few (and of course, through debt payments) be channelled off shore. What is left? stinking dead ecosystems where once were rivers.

Nup you're wrong.
Agreed
The full force of chicago school comming home to roost

Dumb and dumber

HenryDorsetCase

1st August 2014, 18:22

Colin Craig, Mr Craig said his party would block all substantial land sales to foreign buyers - a policy already proposed by New Zealand First, Labour and Greens.

If only politicians HAD to keep election promises. :rolleyes:

the devil's in the detail though, eh? If you look at the OIC Act (I had to, once or twice) it is entirely arguable that it already has the potential to block "substantial land sales to foreign buyers". Except they never have. Oh wait - didnt they prevent Zer Fuhrer Kim DC from buying that hideous Coatesville McMansion?

Yeah, that's substantial.

But that twiggy singer chick still owns Motutapu, and a shit ton of dairy polluters (sorry "farms") are owned offshore... and people wonder why there is environmental degradation all around? Should be pretty obvious.....

Brian d marge

1st August 2014, 18:23

What it needs is someine to make abit of moneyfrom an alternative method ie aquaponics
Then the tide will turn

roogazza

1st August 2014, 18:41

Muldoon........ I'll be voting for him.

Swoop

1st August 2014, 19:38

Interesting. Can you explain a bit more?
Fish and Game are a bit of a selective organisation. If a species is on their "like" list it gets one form of treatment and others less so. An approach of "all or nothing" in some areas of pest eradication comes at the cost to others.
Game animals and hunter's rights are another thorny issue (ask hunters and shooters, they will grumble...) and the quango approach imitates a lot of DoC mentality. For example, killing off (or trying to achieve this) all thar because they are an introduced species, yet bring international dollars here from hunters wishing to take home a trophy which is regarded as a pest instead of a resource.

Their choice of traps and animal management approach, really indicate a committee approach (an elephant is really a horse designed by a committee!).

riiiiiiight. "reality check"

that usually means "its OK for your cows to shit in our rivers because squeezing cows is the basis of the national prosperity". Not only is it flat wrong, it is unnecessary, completely unsustainable, and ignores every other user of the myriad inland waterways affected. That and irrigation uptake (and wastage) are two pet peeves of mine.

Simple solutions such as hard surfacing, turning effluent into fertiliser, fencing waterways etc.

When I first started whitewater kayaking in the '80's you could (and we did) drink the water from ANY of the rivers we used to go to. If anyone had brought a water bottle we would have ridiculed them.

now you just cannot do that. Giardia, crypospiridium, cow shit, reduction in volume due to irrigation. And for what? So a public good can be subverted for the economic interests of a few (and of course, through debt payments) be channelled off shore. What is left? stinking dead ecosystems where once were rivers.

Nup you're wrong.
:scratch: Good imagination work there. When did I mention river/water quality?

Weirdly, the one thing that the lunatic fringe have come up with recently is their clean river's policy, which I totally agree with.
Dairy farmers sending their filth down the river is totally unacceptable and the state of this nation's rivers is a disgrace!

Ocean1

1st August 2014, 20:08

Fish and Game are a bit of a selective organisation.

Most are. The trouble with many environmentally derived organisations is that they've been hijacked by fundamentalist fuckwits with little idea of their business. They come pre-conditioned with the sort of political partisanship you usually only see in religious orders. And they're about as rational. They're far more likely to instigate fact-free propaganda jihad against anything related to oil or private vehicle access. To anywhere, they're an equal opportunity bunch of fuckwits. Try telling them that public transport produces more pollutants per person/kilometre and you'll get stark disbelief and an outright refusal to enter into any sort of dialogue whatsoever.

Arsehole the loony tunes fickwits and get some balanced professional input and they'd get a lot more traction. Sadly that's about as likely as the pope applying real-world scientific rationale to the church's policies on the teaching of evolution.

Fish and Game are a bit of a selective organisation.........Weirdly, the one thing that the lunatic fringe have come up with recently is their clean river's policy, which I totally agree with.

Aye, it's changing, but not fast enough. For me anyway. But then, I'm not a cow cocky.

oldrider

1st August 2014, 22:45

But that twiggy singer chick still owns Motutapu, ..

No she doesn't, they split up but her husband (Mutt Lange) still owns Motutapu! :shifty: (and a few others)

Brian d marge

2nd August 2014, 00:56

Most are. The trouble with many environmentally derived organisations is that they've been hijacked by fundamentalist fuckwits with little idea of their business. They come pre-conditioned with the sort of political partisanship you usually only see in religious orders. And they're about as rational. They're far more likely to instigate fact-free propaganda jihad against anything related to oil or private vehicle access. To anywhere, they're an equal opportunity bunch of fuckwits. Try telling them that public transport produces more pollutants per person/kilometre and you'll get stark disbelief and an outright refusal to enter into any sort of dialogue whatsoever.

Arsehole the loony tunes fickwits and get some balanced professional input and they'd get a lot more traction. Sadly that's about as likely as the pope applying real-world scientific rationale to the church's policies on the teaching of evolution.

Aye, it's changing, but not fast enough. For me anyway. But then, I'm not a cow cocky.
Public transport . .

Oh this ought to be good

Go on batman im all ears . . . . .

avgas

2nd August 2014, 03:08

Muldoon........ I'll be voting for him.
I hate to be the one to tell you this......

But that outfit you are wearing died in the 1990's
(along with Muldoon)

avgas

2nd August 2014, 03:09

So are there any hot chicks to vote for? This thread is depressing.

MisterD

2nd August 2014, 06:40

Except they never have.

IIRC Clark and Cullen used their powers under it to block a Canadian pension fund from a shareholding in Auckland airport.

avgas

2nd August 2014, 08:18

IIRC Clark and Cullen used their powers under it to block a Canadian pension fund from a shareholding in Auckland airport.
Who still own a minority investment in regardless.
15% or something a rather.

40% foreign ownership currently.

Naki Rat

2nd August 2014, 10:12

Weirdly, the one thing that the lunatic fringe have come up with recently is their clean river's policy, which I totally agree with.
Dairy farmers sending their filth down the river is totally unacceptable and the state of this nation's rivers is a disgrace!Would that "lunatic fringe" be from the same general rabble that have warned us about ozone depletion, rising CO2 levels, unsustainable tropical hardwoods, atmospheric nuclear testing, dioxin contamination, the nonsense of curing traffic congestion by building more roads, international market resistance to GE produce, Japanese whaling and many other inconvenient truths?

Seems to many of us that those lunatic views often become part of the mainstream consciousness, so wouldn't 'visionary fringe' be a more apt description?

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 10:21

Public transport . .

Oh this ought to be good

Go on batman im all ears . . . . .

You're big boy aincha?, do your own fucking homework. The numbers are freely available, here's one of dozens from the first google page: http://www.templetons.com/brad/transit-myth.html#mpg

Trains and busses use less fuel per passenger kilometre if they're full. And they never are, especially in NZ where the geography imposes limits on access.

Outside of densely populated flat areas private cars are the greenest practical option for most commuters. Just another example of facts completely ignored or denied by the church of the environment.

oldrider

2nd August 2014, 10:27

Muldoon........ I'll be voting for him.

Nobody actually voted for Muldoon ... they simply ticked the wrong box and fucked the country! :tugger:

mashman

2nd August 2014, 12:32

Outside of densely populated flat areas private cars are the greenest practical option for most commuters. Just another example of facts completely ignored or denied by the church of the environment.

All businesses fault. If they didn't have an irrational need to congregate in cities, people could walk or cycle to work.

HenryDorsetCase

2nd August 2014, 13:49

IIRC Clark and Cullen used their powers under it to block a Canadian pension fund from a shareholding in Auckland airport.

I'll defer to your expertise. I could google it but you know.

HenryDorsetCase

2nd August 2014, 13:53

Outside of densely populated flat areas private cars are the greenest practical option for most commuters. Just another example of facts completely ignored or denied by the church of the environment.

now who's being selective?

If what you are saying is correct it still ignores issues yet to be faced in this country: what do you do with cars when you get there? How far out in the burbclaves do you have to go for housing? what does it cost to run a vehicle now? What bout when petrol is $2.50 a litre in two years, and $5 a litre in ten years? How much appalling suburban sprawl do we want? How much of that sprawl is on land that could be growing something useful?

I'm not saying your example is wrong, I am saying you are looking through too narrow an aperture. I acknowledge my own small contribution with all the greenfields subdivision work I do. (hey it funds my KB and Pascalls Jet Plane addiction)

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 14:25

All businesses fault. If they didn't have an irrational need to congregate in cities, people could walk or cycle to work.

Best you fuck off to live in Eketahuna then, you could commute by bicycle from there to Danniverke and save the world.

Fuckwit.

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 15:02

now who's being selective?

Guilty. I've selected the simple facts.

If what you are saying is correct it still ignores issues yet to be faced in this country: what do you do with cars when you get there?

You park the fucking things. At which time they're generating zero environmental contaminants, unlike the buses and trains now turning around to do the return trip mostly empty, using not only far more fuel in doing so than the car would have but far more environmentally detrimental fuel to boot.

When it comes to generally accepted environmental dogma: Don't, it's mostly wrong.

How far out in the burbclaves do you have to go for housing? what does it cost to run a vehicle now? What bout when petrol is $2.50 a litre in two years, and $5 a litre in ten years?

As far as the individual punter wants. If it becomes less attractive to commute then quite simply fewer people would wish to do so, creating opportunities for alternatives not currently viable.

How much appalling suburban sprawl do we want? How much of that sprawl is on land that could be growing something useful?

What? High density housing makes MORE land available for agriculture. Not less. In fact that's one of the key reasons the planet can support twice the number of humans it did a century ago. Cities support half the worlds population and take up less than 3% of the worlds land. Urban people consume far less energy and affect natural environmental systems less than their rural cousins.

If you want to save the world build 50 story apartments. Not a popular green concept, I'll grant, but that's exactly the point: most of the fuckwits can't count and wouldn't know an environmental risk if it bit them in the arse.

I'm not saying your example is wrong, I am saying you are looking through too narrow an aperture. I acknowledge my own small contribution with all the greenfields subdivision work I do. (hey it funds my KB and Pascalls Jet Plane addiction)

You'd probably approve of my current abode's environmental footprint. You'd be typically and massively wrong, but I get to chose my vices just as you do. My biggest regret is not having the time or skill to turn my apples into palatable cider.

mashman

2nd August 2014, 15:06

Best you fuck off to live in Eketahuna then, you could commute by bicycle from there to Danniverke and save the world.

Fuckwit.

:killingme... coz that what it's all about? Myopic fuckknuckle.

avgas

2nd August 2014, 15:21

Nobody actually voted for Muldoon ... they simply ticked the wrong box and fucked the country! :tugger:
A vote for anyone is a vote for them. Even if all your trying to do is stop the other guy - your vote is your right to relinquish power to someone else. If you voted for them - you are giving them the right to represent you.
Muldoon was elected by an unthinking majority. Most of our PM's are.

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 15:36

:killingme... coz that what it's all about? Myopic fuckknuckle.

So, to recap:

All businesses fault. If they didn't have an irrational need to congregate in cities, people could walk or cycle to work.

And paraphrase: Teh evel New World Order business conglomeration is forcing the sheeple into herds, where their natural inclination to ride eighteenth century machines to work and back is thwarted by their much closer proximity to their place of employment.

Hence:

Best you fuck off to live in Eketahuna then, you could commute by bicycle from there to Danniverke and save the world.

Which I agree was overly verbose.

Fuckwit. Covered it amply.

Brian d marge

2nd August 2014, 16:13

oldrider

2nd August 2014, 16:40

Muldoon was elected by an unthinking majority. Most of our PM's are.

True! ... Caucus! .... How unthinking is that? :niceone:

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 17:17

hahahaha

thought that would be the argument

Yes if you run a fleet of buses and nobody uses them , of course your Ferrari is more fuel efficient

but if you run your transport at or near full capacity then, no way will a car be as efficient and especially if your generate your energy in an efficient manner

I doubt cities such as Tokyo or London could even function without the rail system.

IMHO , ( Tin Hat on!) I suspect the pushing of a road infrastructure is a petrodollar issue , ya dont want efficient systems that dont use the might petrodollar

I also wonder at NZ insistence on a road network . When I was in NZ in April, I was shocked at the price of gasoline , As the yen and NZ dollar are nearly one to one. Japan is much cheaper for gasoline.

I also wondered , Where do people get the money for the cars that I saw , big 4x4 , holdens etc never really saw small 600cc cars even in the city

Some people must be spending a bit of coin on gasoline and can they afford it ??? They must be doing alright if they can afford it !

Just a thought

Stephen

But rail and bus systems don't run anywhere near full in NZ. So that's the end of that argument.

Also, electricity for trains, (and only Wgt and now Ak are electric) is not produced in a particularly efficient manner. It's not from base load generation, it's more likely to be dirty coal or gas.

Modern cars are hugely more efficient than those most environmental agencies took their figures from, whereas Bus and rail diesels are archaic designs so old environmental activism hadn't even been invented.

NZ's "insistence" on road transport has fuck all to do with evel petrodollar driven political machinations, it's driven by the extremely wrinkly geography and low population density. Comparing it to Londen and Tokyo is fucking absurd, they're the most densly populated cities on the planet, both as flat as a pancake.

So the best way to spend your environmental dollar in NZ is to reduce car congestion, which the loony tunes green brigade translate into "fixing auto-pollution by building more roads". And encouraging the new, small high speed diesel cars, which the current vehicle road used charges heavily penalise. Again: they've got no fucking idea.

mashman

2nd August 2014, 17:33

So, to recap:

And paraphrase: Teh evel New World Order business conglomeration is forcing the sheeple into herds, where their natural inclination to ride eighteenth century machines to work and back is thwarted by their much closer proximity to their place of employment.

Hence:

Which I agree was overly verbose.

Covered it amply.

You can paraphrase all you like, but given that you wank on about the efficiency of transport and then in the next breath defend the inefficiency of the current employment environment in the name of business doesn't give me confidence in your ability to paraphrase the instruction manual for a fuckin lawnmower let alone give any confidence that you actually know what you're talking about.

You can class it as overly verbose all you want, doesn't make it so at the end of the recipient. But cheers for the lulz.

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 17:58

You can paraphrase all you like, but given that you wank on about the efficiency of transport and then in the next breath defend the inefficiency of the current employment environment in the name of business doesn't give me confidence in your ability to paraphrase the instruction manual for a fuckin lawnmower let alone give any confidence that you actually know what you're talking about.

You can class it as overly verbose all you want, doesn't make it so at the end of the recipient. But cheers for the lulz.

Fuckwit....

Swoop

2nd August 2014, 19:51

Would that "lunatic fringe" be from the same general rabble that have warned us about ozone depletion, rising CO2 levels, unsustainable tropical hardwoods, atmospheric nuclear testing, dioxin contamination, the nonsense of curing traffic congestion by building more roads, international market resistance to GE produce, Japanese whaling and many other inconvenient truths?

Seems to many of us that those lunatic views often become part of the mainstream consciousness, so wouldn't 'visionary fringe' be a more apt description?

The Lunatic Fringe = NZ green party.

mashman

2nd August 2014, 20:57

Fuckwit....

Artichoke.

Brian d marge

2nd August 2014, 22:41

NZ's "insistence" on road transport has fuck all to do with evel petrodollar driven political machinations, it's driven by the extremely wrinkly geography and low population density. Comparing it to Londen and Tokyo is fucking absurd, they're the most densly populated cities on the planet, both as flat as a pancake.

Go and have a look at the map "Tokyo" , Japan is even more wrinkly than NZ , even more earthquake prone

Yes its high density , thats why I used them as an example , they would cease to function if it wasnt for rail, ( what Im saying here is that well used public transport is better.)

Auckland is heading down that same path , as is, to a certain extent Wellington

"IF " NZ enjoyed the same level of public transport as we do here in Japan , you would see quite a decline in car ownership, I believe.

London is a little different as the pricing has made Ryan air look more attractive ( if thats possible )

Yes I do think its the evil petrodollar at work. I still think that the modern train system is , for hauling bulk goods and even for inter city goods transport, one of, if not the best solution.

When I talk of railways I mean modern railways, not the cesspool that NZR is/was

Stephen

Ocean1

2nd August 2014, 23:33

Go and have a look at the map "Tokyo" , Japan is even more wrinkly than NZ , even more earthquake prone

Is this the Tokyo on the Kanto plains? The largest piece of flat land in the country?

Yes its high density , thats why I used them as an example , they would cease to function if it wasnt for rail, ( what Im saying here is that well used public transport is better.)

So, about as different as NZ as it's possible to get?

A pointless comparison then.

"IF " NZ enjoyed the same level of public transport as we do here in Japan , you would see quite a decline in car ownership, I believe.

And "IF" NZ cities enjoyed the same level of funding that cities 100 times the size do you may be right. As they don't it a bit pointless comparing them, innit?

Yes I do think its the evil petrodollar at work.

So a resource overpriced by secret political deals is the reason everyone isn't using alternative transport.

Right.

I still think that the modern train system is , for hauling bulk goods and even for inter city goods transport, one of, if not the best solution.

Best in what regard? Because you say so? Not economically, not with current technology and currently available resources. And as I said, not environmentally, not until you make them full.

Sorry dude, until you get cities a fucking sight larger and more dense than Ak or Wgtn metro rail systems don't make any sort of sense. Once you have a ring rail system that runs non-stop then maybe. If you built the rail corridor and station spaces into your long-term town planning and budget from scratch. Unlikely, for an asset that costs far more than it's worth until you reach a couple of million pop, at minimum. What Wgtn currently has costs more than taking the car, and that's subsidised to fuck.

avgas

3rd August 2014, 06:23

Is this the Tokyo on the Kanto plains? The largest piece of flat land in the country?
And "IF" NZ cities enjoyed the same level of funding that cities 100 times the size do you may be right. As they don't it a bit pointless comparing them, innit?
Best in what regard? Because you say so? Not economically, not with current technology and currently available resources. And as I said, not environmentally, not until you make them full.
Sorry dude, until you get cities a fucking sight larger and more dense than Ak or Wgtn metro rail systems don't make any sort of sense. Once you have a ring rail system that runs non-stop then maybe. If you built the rail corridor and station spaces into your long-term town planning and budget from scratch. Unlikely, for an asset that costs far more than it's worth until you reach a couple of million pop, at minimum. What Wgtn currently has costs more than taking the car, and that's subsidised to fuck.
Just to sit in the middle of this - I have to admit, in the countries that have had great rail systems......there is one cost which balances the whole lot out. Inefficiencies.

Taking 10 million people are getting them all to work on time via one transport system (road or whatever) is why cities stagnate. To use Japan as an example - Kyoto is a fantastic city, I would love to live there......as a retiree. The business infrastructure isn't there because the transport infrastructure isn't there. Thus business is moved out of town, and many people own cars. NZ cities face the same problem. Tokyo on the other hand continues to grow as a business hub, not just because people can get around easily. If people can get around easily - they move there.

In China it is the same with comparisons between even Shanghai and Beijing. Both cities are of similar size - but more businesses are starting in Shanghai. Because no one can stand Beijing 4 hour traffic jams.

The car is not that expensive in NZ because the train is. If you had everyone taking the train - the car would seem ridiculously overpriced. You would also have to change the mentality of 1.5 million people (in Auckland). Which is tough even on the scale of New York or Tokyo. Fact is we missed the prime opportunity with rail 40+ years ago. It will take us another 40 years for it to come back.
As mentioned earlier - I think there is a middle ground where we consider all options. Relying on cars alone will stagnate NZ's growth.......it always has.

(Not going to get into the debate of growth being good/bad for NZ - assume for the sake of this argument that growth = good.......because if growth = bad, you shouldn't even be fixing the roads as they are, you should be digging them up and riding horses).

NZ rail used to be a world leader and in 100 years we have lost that.

mada

3rd August 2014, 15:03

Can add Steven Joyce to the smarmy arrogant fuckwit list too...

Let's his true colours show on this debate. I thought Judith Collins was an arrogant smarmy bully, imagine this dick as PM when Key eventually hands over the reigns? :brick:

http://www.3news.co.nz/Debate-Grant-Robertson-and-Steven-Joyce-on-the-wealth-of-the-nation/tabid/1348/articleID/355158/Default.aspx

Brian d marge

3rd August 2014, 15:29

Robbo

3rd August 2014, 17:06

Seriously, could this be the face of a future prime minister :facepalm::facepalm:

We could be an international laughing stock.

mada

3rd August 2014, 17:46

Seriously, could this be the face of a future prime minister :facepalm::facepalm:

We could be an international laughing stock.

If we're gonna be so shallow as to voting on the basis of looks, then we should at least make it fucking good.

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/MyfriendpreferassIpreferboobsIfthispostmakeitoutof thevotepageIwinGentlemenvotesappreciated-97451.jpeg

unstuck

3rd August 2014, 18:13

We could be an international laughing stock.

Too late, methinks. :yes:

Akzle

3rd August 2014, 18:42

If we're gonna be so shallow as to voting on the basis of looks, then we should at least make it fucking good.

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/MyfriendpreferassIpreferboobsIfthispostmakeitoutof thevotepageIwinGentlemenvotesappreciated-97451.jpeg

i vote mada to organise the elections.

unstuck

3rd August 2014, 18:44

i vote mada to organise the erections.

Fixed.:2thumbsup

Akzle

3rd August 2014, 18:47

Fixed.:2thumbsup

u azn bro? .

unstuck

3rd August 2014, 18:49

u azn bro? .

Sorry, do not speak yoof.:confused:

Robbo

3rd August 2014, 19:34

[QUOTE=mada;1130754870]If we're gonna be so shallow as to voting on the basis of looks, then we should at least make it fucking good.

Yep, they both get my votes:yes::yes:

What party did you say they belong to? :innocent:

ellipsis

3rd August 2014, 20:12

...pants party?...

MisterD

4th August 2014, 08:14

imagine this dick as PM when Key eventually hands over the reigns? :brick:

Apparently doesn't have enough supporters in caucus for that to happen.

I have to say that in the pollies I've interacted with professionally, he really does stand out in terms of his competence and his grasp of a really wide range of subjects. Talking to Clare Curran on Telecoms-related stuff after Joyce was like going from University to Primary school.

Banditbandit

4th August 2014, 09:00

Seriously, could this be the face of a future prime minister :facepalm::facepalm:

We could be an international laughing stock.

And this is not embarrassing?

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/news2009/one_news_people/key_letterman_2.jpg

Robbo

4th August 2014, 10:19

[QUOTE=Banditbandit;1130755103]And this is not embarrassing?

No, not at all. What do you see as a problem with it?

avgas

4th August 2014, 12:32

Yep, they both get my votes:yes::yes:
What party did you say they belong to? :innocent:
I'm serious - If someone finds me a hot politician. I will vote for them.

What NZ needs is a smoking hot prime minister. Even the wives of past PM's have been fugly

Banditbandit

4th August 2014, 13:53

And this is not embarrassing?

No, not at all. What do you see as a problem with it?

Watching DonKey fawn all over Letterman and take jokes at the expense of New Zealand was hardly like watching a statesman at work ... Buffoon maybe - Prime Minister and Statesman ?? Not ...

mada

4th August 2014, 15:44

Looks like they've started to put up their true and realistic ball bags, i mean billboards:

https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/p180x540/10294226_679920882100596_2897434850789864738_n.jpg

oldrider

4th August 2014, 15:51

And this is not embarrassing?

What is embarrassing is that "he" is the best that we (NZ) has currently got! (by a long long way! :o )

Banditbandit

4th August 2014, 16:19

What is embarrassing is that "he" is the best that we (NZ) has currently got! (by a long long way! :o )

I can't disagree with that ... what a sad state we are in !!!

Winston001

4th August 2014, 21:54

I'm serious - If someone finds me a hot politician. I will vote for them.

What NZ needs is a smoking hot prime minister. Even the wives of past PM's have been fugly

I must be bored :D here's a few possibilities:

Helle Thorning-Schmidt prime minister of Denmark

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583

Cristina Fernández de Kirchner President of Argentina

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583#q=Cristina+Fernández+de+Kirchner&tbm=isch

Yingluck Shinawatra - The president of Thailand

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583#q=Yingluck+Shinawatra+-+The+president+of+Thaila&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

And finally tadaaa!!!!

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583#q=jacinda+ardern+teeth&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

mada

4th August 2014, 22:25

I must be bored :D here's a few possibilities:

Helle Thorning-Schmidt prime minister of Denmark

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583

Cristina Fernández de Kirchner President of Argentina

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583#q=Cristina+Fernández+de+Kirchner&tbm=isch

Yingluck Shinawatra - The president of Thailand

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583#q=Yingluck+Shinawatra+-+The+president+of+Thaila&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

And finally tadaaa!!!!

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Helle+Thorning-Schmidt&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=flPfU-7DEYuE8gW6q4DgCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1252&bih=583#q=jacinda+ardern+teeth&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

Too old mate... and Jacinda's old man is a cop, can imagine having a shotty out for the date.

How about some Russians or Ukrainians?

Natalia Vladimirovna Poklonskaya

http://sociorocketnewsen.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/natalia-2.jpg?w=1730&h=1345

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Natalia+Vladimirovna+Poklonskaya&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ql3fU5bKCNW48gXr2oKIDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=781&bih=358

Alina Kabaeva

http://oglympics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Top-10-Most-Beautiful-Women-Politicians-In-The-World-1.jpg

or Mexican police chief (fled to the states)

http://thethirdbrand.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/garcia.jpg

Brian d marge

4th August 2014, 22:35

might even give up my Japanese fetish for Alina

fk me ( and I wish she would ) , what country /telephone number ..........

Stephen

#imafkinhornywildebeastbaby

ps the fkin choppers of Jacinda , no way are they going near me manhood

pzkpfw

5th August 2014, 13:20

I've got nothing against immigrants; 3 of my family of 4 were born overseas - including me.

But geez, something really smells dodgy to me about these conservatives: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10347306/Citizenship-roadblock-for-candidates

Five Conservative Party candidates may be barred from standing at the election because they are not New Zealand citizens.

The party is delaying the announcement of the four South African and one Pacific Island hopeful, until their citizenship is approved.

All five are permanent residents but must have sworn an oath of citizenship by August 27 - nomination day - to be eligible to contest September's general election. A sixth candidate, who is English, recently had an application to the Department of Internal Affairs approved.

They want to run the country but hadn't been arsed to becomes citizens yet?

Banditbandit

5th August 2014, 13:26

Brian d marge

5th August 2014, 13:40

Hey im not even in the country and im telling ya how to run it

oldrider

5th August 2014, 15:13

Hey im not even in the country and im telling ya how to run it

Choice! ... Just like the people who really "do" run it! :yes:

Banditbandit

5th August 2014, 16:29

Natalia Vladimirovna Poklonskaya

Oh yes ...

http://hybridtechcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/poklonskaya_.jpg

mada

5th August 2014, 19:10

Oh yes ...

Hell yeah :headbang:

What about that Russian spy (Anna Chapman) haha?

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/chapman-insert.jpg

RE: Conservatives... Internal Affairs should make all their candidates equal - revoke that stuck up Christine Rankin's citizenship.

oldrider

5th August 2014, 20:12

Banditbandit

6th August 2014, 11:17

Hell yeah :headbang:

What about that Russian spy (Anna Chapman) haha?

Nice spy ...

Alina Kabaeva (Elected to the Russian Duma in 2007 and the middle pix Mada posted above) is smoking hot ...

<img src="http://sportsport.ba/assets/pictures/gallery/4212/Alina5.jpg" width="400px"/>

HenryDorsetCase

6th August 2014, 11:22

Oh yes ...

I'll have what she's having

Banditbandit

6th August 2014, 14:46

I'll have what she's having

She's having trouble from Russia and the rebels ..

MisterD

7th August 2014, 12:50

What do we get? Paula the Westie, My Little Pony or Laila Whore-ay...

Banditbandit

7th August 2014, 15:04

What do we get? Paula the Westie, My Little Pony or Laila Whore-ay...

Whore-ay is unjustified ... not that I'd defend Lala at all ...

Don't forget Crusher Collins ... or the one everyone is too afraid to ask for a blow job ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/482285770871296000/r3XyWImI.jpeg

MisterD

7th August 2014, 15:10

Whore-ay is unjustified ...

Dropped her political knickers and hopped into bed with the fat kraut, "whore" is the only word for it. John Key was being way to nice just saying "sugar daddy"

I didn't forget anyone - that's My Little Pony you've found a picture of.

Banditbandit

7th August 2014, 15:11

Dropped her political knickers and hopped into bed with the fat kraut, "whore" is the only word for it. John Key was being way to nice just saying "sugar daddy"

Yeah .. OK .. I get that ... objection withdrawn ...

trustme

23rd August 2014, 20:05

I am happy to admit I was wrong . I now have zero respect for Crusher. If she was to resign there might just be a blip on the respectometer

Brian d marge

23rd August 2014, 20:19

Our politicians are simply puppets in a world plan way beyond their imaginations!

Not exactly how I have seen it evolving but so close that it shocked me!

I had never heard of this guy before today but it appears that we have reached almost the same conclusions quite idependantly.

Check out this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T5hIg60Z1g

Then be your own judge on the confusing world events of today. :mellow:
Mr david

Hahahaha

Some say he his the son of god

Others say its just a front so that he can get his real story across

The story he is on at the moment is that thejewsdidnt come from israel rather from the caucases and the nose is from a king of a particular tribe

And the queen is a shape shifting lizard . . . Plausable. . .my wife becomes an alien being every full moon or 27 days which ever comes first

Stephen