Classics on Trade Me

[Voltaire]

30's meets modern BMW
315892
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=950908075

Nice Monza
315893
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=948469965

[F5 Dave]

Now that is cool. But would it be heresy to fit the later model's machine gun?
Some honeys in his pics.

[Banditbandit]

Yeah .. the Monza would look good in my garage (where it would be lovingly ridden hard ...)

[Voltaire]

interesting spin on the Commando
315913
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-944966457.htm

[Voltaire]

Ducati Darmah
315924
Bevel Drive Dukes are getting pricy.

[jim.cox]

Bevel Drive Dukes are getting pricy.

$12K for that seems good value to me (but then I might be biased)

[F5 Dave]

12k for a drama? A 750GT sure, but. . .

[Voltaire]

12k for a drama? A 750GT sure, but. . .

I'd be surprised if you could get a 750GT for under 20K now, last couple of 860GT's which I can't say are my favs went for 13+ K on TM last year.

[F5 Dave]

Nah prolly not, but they are pretty.

In a Newtonesq way that the 860 isn't.

[jim.cox]

12k for a drama? A 750GT sure, but. . .


I paid 12k for my MHR and that was more than twenty years ago....

[jellywrestler]

thunderbike drove the prices of italian bikes up many years ago, people would walk in with mid teens dollars for harleys and they'd convince them to be different and have some cash left in their pockets sold the dukes laverdas and guzzis for a few K more than they were selling for at the time, prices have been based on that and risen steadily. bevels are hot property in aussie.

[Kickaha]

I paid 12k for my MHR and that was more than twenty years ago....

I sold my MHR Mille last year for 20K, although it'd just had 5k spent on the motor


Bevel Drive Dukes are getting pricy.

Especially when they have no service history

[Voltaire]

Pre unit Triumph :love:
315964
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-952943026.htm

[nodrog]

Pre unit Triumph :love:
315964
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-952943026.htm

this is a bit of you.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-890447600.htm

I was in, but alas, it was a deal breaker.

[Ocean1]

This seems cheap: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-927176532.htm

I suppose if I burgled it's bits to make a Cheney B50MX someone would hit me?

[jellywrestler]

what about the vincent on webbs, described as excellent.
had a look through the photos and here's what i could see differnt from standard

later model carbies,
d series hand operated centre stand
wrong size front wheel, should be 20 inch front and 19 rear, later they changed to 18 rear and 19 front (it’s got a metzeler laser which you can’t get in 20 inch)
rev counter and drive added
incorrect dynamo, should be miller, maybe it’s a chinamo aftermarket upgrade
stainless guards, originals were alloy, birmabright, same alloy as landrover bodies
not matching numbers, i’d ask webbs for the two frame numbers, out of curiosity, let them sweat finding them
elephant trunk breather fitted to crankcases, ugly, not the answer for a well tuned bike, although it was the fad for a while to solve them breathing elsewhere.
external coils mounted on left of bike, means mag either missing or just being used as points to operate coils, ugly and not needed in this day and age. coils mounted right below fuel tap---good for fires.
mixture of alloy and stainless tommy bars on magneto cover, not attention to detail here
odd fuel tap i’ve never seen before several extra holes in at least one footpeg plate, probably for luggage rack at one stage, not standard
incorrect dip switch
modern cables with product details in writing on them
non matching numbers, only two of the three supplied (can't see photo, this is in the advert)

[Voltaire]

Buyers really need to do the research, can't rely on what the seller says. Everyone thinks their old bike is worth the same as what you see the ones sell for in the UK and US.

Matching numbers only really matter for buying and selling they don't have a lot of impact on the riding:msn-wink:

Does anyone still ride Vincents, of the last four I saw this year, one was at a rally in Northland, two were in the back of a van ( a TT single and a Rapide) one was in bits all over a floor.

The owners all look about ready to cash them in.:laugh:

[sidecar bob]

what about the vincent on webbs, described as excellent.
had a look through the photos and here's what i could see differnt from standard

later model carbies,
d series hand operated centre stand
wrong size front wheel, should be 20 inch front and 19 rear, later they changed to 18 rear and 19 front (it’s got a metzeler laser which you can’t get in 20 inch)
rev counter and drive added
incorrect dynamo, should be miller, maybe it’s a chinamo aftermarket upgrade
stainless guards, originals were alloy, birmabright, same alloy as landrover bodies
not matching numbers, i’d ask webbs for the two frame numbers, out of curiosity, let them sweat finding them
elephant trunk breather fitted to crankcases, ugly, not the answer for a well tuned bike, although it was the fad for a while to solve them breathing elsewhere.
external coils mounted on left of bike, means mag either missing or just being used as points to operate coils, ugly and not needed in this day and age. coils mounted right below fuel tap---good for fires.
mixture of alloy and stainless tommy bars on magneto cover, not attention to detail here
odd fuel tap i’ve never seen before several extra holes in at least one footpeg plate, probably for luggage rack at one stage, not standard
incorrect dip switch
modern cables with product details in writing on them
non matching numbers, only two of the three supplied (can't see photo, this is in the advert)
Remind me to take you if I'm buying a Vincent. I'd get myself tucked operating alone.

[jellywrestler]

Remind me to take you if I'm buying a Vincent. I'd get myself tucked operating alone.

i spent a few years toiling on mine so i had to get it right......

[Paul in NZ]

This seems cheap: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-927176532.htm

I suppose if I burgled it's bits to make a Cheney B50MX someone would hit me?

Nah - its about right... They struggle along at 100kph but without all the mods they are not that flash... You can make em nice but oh gawd they can be a full on drama in a bucket...

[Paul in NZ]

i spent a few years toiling on mine so i had to get it right......

Ditto - are you becoming a Vincent nerd? (Ignore me - just jealous)

[jellywrestler]

Ditto - are you becoming a Vincent nerd? (Ignore me - just jealous)

no, haivn spent a entire years income on one a few years ago and re restoring it I wanted to get it right, or at least know what's right, also do the archives for the New Zealand Vincent owners club so follow what's moving around in the country.
don't be jealous, they're a headache to most people.....

[Kickaha]

Does anyone still ride Vincents, of the last four I saw this year, one was at a rally in Northland, two were in the back of a van ( a TT single and a Rapide) one was in bits all over a floor.


A while back now but I did the 1000 miler out of Turangi on the Darmah in the early/mid nineties and a guy did it on a Vincent, used to see one around Chch frequently

[Voltaire]

A while back now but I did the 1000 miler out of Turangi on the Darmah in the early/mid nineties and a guy did it on a Vincent, used to see one around Chch frequently

A while back you could buy a house in Auckland for under 300K too...

Bevel drive Ducatis are hardly ever seen outside Auction Rooms and Newmarket Cafes these days ( as in last year)

[Bennyblanko]

[QUOTE=Voltaire;1130903812]30's meets modern BMW
315892
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=950908075

yikes! they spent all that effort and then made the engine plates look like crappy galv plated gate latches.

[Oscar]

30's meets modern BMW

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=950908075



I stared at it and all I could think of was "..why?...why in doGs name would someone do that?"

What a fucking abortion.

[jasonu]

interesting spin on the Commando
315913
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-944966457.htm

About the dumbest looking exhaust I have ever seen.

[Laava]

About the dumbest looking exhaust I have ever seen.

Agreed, must have been a fri afternoon job!

[Voltaire]

Been some good buys on my Trade Me watch list lately.

336618
12K

336619
13.5K

336620
6K
336621
7.2K
336622
This one belongs in optimistic sellers at 14K not sold.:shutup:

[HenryDorsetCase]

this is a good thread how did I miss it first time round?

[Murray]

I like the Duc

[Voltaire]

Restored Kawasaki 750 H2


Up to 17K so far.



( no pic as TM pics are now getting to large for KB)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1626109555.htm?rsqid=479ccfa3f27843a89adedbf042414 6a0

[F5 Dave]

Now that is pretty. Someone should show that to the 20k one oft referred to on the optimistic thread over the years.

[jasonu]

Restored Kawasaki 750 H2


Up to 17K so far.



( no pic as TM pics are now getting to large for KB)

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1626109555.htm?rsqid=479ccfa3f27843a89adedbf042414 6a0

Seller comment: plus 6 months rego 12:40 pm, Thu 10 May
Well that just added $2000 to the value.....

[F5 Dave]

Classic rego.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Classic rego.

$40 a year innit?

[Voltaire]

$40 a year innit?

$49.75 PA for my Commando and R90s each.:niceone:

ACC makes up a whopping $13.38

[Honest Andy]

$49.75 PA for my Commando and R90s each.:niceone:

ACC makes up a whopping $13.38

Yep, less than the cost of the two warrants!

[Voltaire]

I used to like projects, getting up early and standing outside the shop waiting to get the Trade and Exchange,phoning up hoping someone would be home and getting there first with the cash to buy.
Then the research of old magazines and books. Going to swap meets and rummaging
thru rusty bits to find a gem.
There were no repro parts much then.

Now its look on Trade Me, a few hours of internet research and hit the buy it now button, followed by buying bits on TM,Ebay and on line shops.

I just sold a 52 Triumph Thunderbird Project after it sitting around for 4 years.( there is part two to this story).
Lots of parts, many new repro ones,
336692

My oldest project is a 1959 T110 that has been apart with rego on hold since my first Son was born. He is now 23.
I bought it as a basket case in 1991 and had it fully restored in 12 months and rode it to the IOM TT.
Brought it back here in 1993, it 'nipped up' and got pulled apart and put in boxes.

Got a good project story to share?

[jellywrestler]

I used to like projects, getting up early and standing outside the shop waiting to get the Trade and Exchange,phoning up hoping someone would be home and getting there first with the cash to buy.
Then the research of old magazines and books. Going to swap meets and rummaging
thru rusty bits to find a gem.
There were no repro parts much then.

Now its look on Trade Me, a few hours of internet research and hit the buy it now button, followed by buying bits on TM,Ebay and on line shops.



yeah, i rebuilt a burnt out hesketh in those days, unfortunately the current method means they find their way into your shed faster than you have the time to work on them producing a backlog, minds about 100years worth

[Blackbird]

yeah, i rebuilt a burnt out hesketh in those days, unfortunately the current method means they find their way into your shed faster than you have the time to work on them producing a backlog, minds about 100years worth

Haha - that's the problem for us "mature" types - how we best spend our time.

Back in the 90's when we lived in Tokoroa, I bought our eldest son a Suzuki X7 to learn to road ride. It was a honey of a bike to blast round the country lanes. Anyway, I sold it when he went off to varsity and astoundingly, it is now owned by one of our neighbours here in Coromandel. I say "owned" rather than ridden because it hasn't been started for several years. It also has heaps of additional spares which were purchased as a job lot by the current owner. He has no plans to do anything with it and I really ought to buy it for nostalgia's sake. Trouble is, actually riding my current road bike takes up a lot of time plus sea fishing with my wife so in all probability, it would just sit in my shed too. Life is really tough :wacko:

Seeing as Voltaire mentioned the 50's T'bird, I've attached a photo of my 1955 Tiger 100 (photo taken in 1968). It was my only transport and carried me everywhere in all weathers. I actually know who currently owns it in the UK - good to hear that it still exists!

[fridayflash]

cool pics blackbird, i owned a suzuki x7 250 in 1989, it was a good bike at the time, first time i did the ton was on that bike {only just}
quite hard to find an x7 nowadays

[Blackbird]

cool pics blackbird, i owned a suzuki x7 250 in 1989, it was a good bike at the time, first time i did the ton was on that bike {only just}
quite hard to find an x7 nowadays

Thank you! Yep, they were good for around the ton but their real charm was their light weight meaning that they could really be chucked round the country lanes and the howl was something else! Even if I don't buy it, I must go round to the neighbour and see exactly what he picked up in the way of spares. I know there's a whole engine plus sundry internal parts. I think he said he had a rolling chassis too.

[pete376403]

Haha - that's the problem for us "mature" types - how we best spend our time.

Seeing as Voltaire mentioned the 50's T'bird, I've attached a photo of my 1955 Tiger 100 (photo taken in 1968). It was my only transport and carried me everywhere in all weathers. I actually know who currently owns it in the UK - good to hear that it still exists!

The second picture immediately bought to mind a Fred Gassit cartoon. The header was "you cut a dashing figure in your jacket"

[Blackbird]

The second picture immediately bought to mind a Fred Gassit cartoon. The header was "you cut a dashing figure in your jacket"

Hahaha! Love Fred Gassit. I wish I had as much hair now as I did then :laugh: . Those Belstaff jackets weren't exactly stylish but they were impervious to rain, biological warfare and anything else that got thrown at them.

[F5 Dave]

I had TS125 piston in mine. Took it to 275cc or thereabouts. GS550 shocks raised the rear enough that the centre stand was redundant but quickened the steering somewhat. The brake front the same bike supercharged it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Seeing as Voltaire mentioned the 50's T'bird, I've attached a photo of my 1955 Tiger 100 (photo taken in 1968). It was my only transport and carried me everywhere in all weathers. I actually know who currently owns it in the UK - good to hear that it still exists!

is that the throttle cable hanging straight down ? thats weird!

[pete376403]

is that the throttle cable hanging straight down ? thats weird!
When the handlebars are higher thank stock and the cable isn't long enough to route down by the headlight and under the tank.

[Blackbird]

is that the throttle cable hanging straight down ? thats weird!

That's how I bought it with the US bars. It was bloody uncomfortable to ride at any speed and not long after the photo was taken, I put dropped "Ace" bars on it. Far better to ride and much neater cabling :rolleyes:

[Voltaire]

I like the Belstaff jacket, I have one, Mk 8 flying goggles and a Mike Hailwood pudding basin helmet somewhere.

Sure it was a T100, paintwork is very 57' T110ish and tank is 57 or later. ( puts notebook in pocket and takes anorak off...)

[Blackbird]

I like the Belstaff jacket, I have one, Mk 8 flying goggles and a Mike Hailwood pudding basin helmet somewhere.

Sure it was a T100, paintwork is very 57' T110ish and tank is 57 or later. ( puts notebook in pocket and takes anorak off...)

Def a 55 Tiger 100. Can't say that all the gear is original as I only bought it in 1967. The previous owner worked for the Reliant car company and resprayed the bike there and did a lot of chroming. The mufflers definitely weren't standard.

I still have 2 early manuals covering pre-unit and unit construction twins, both in immaculate condition.

[husaberg]

I used to like projects, getting up early and standing outside the shop waiting to get the Trade and Exchange,phoning up hoping someone would be home and getting there first with the cash to buy.
Then the research of old magazines and books. Going to swap meets and rummaging
thru rusty bits to find a gem.
There were no repro parts much then.

Now its look on Trade Me, a few hours of internet research and hit the buy it now button, followed by buying bits on TM,Ebay and on line shops.

I just sold a 52 Triumph Thunderbird Project after it sitting around for 4 years.( there is part two to this story).
Lots of parts, many new repro ones,
336692

My oldest project is a 1959 T110 that has been apart with rego on hold since my first Son was born. He is now 23.
I bought it as a basket case in 1991 and had it fully restored in 12 months and rode it to the IOM TT.
Brought it back here in 1993, it 'nipped up' and got pulled apart and put in boxes.

Got a good project story to share?
Sprunghub did it have the slickshift gearbox as well.

[Voltaire]

Sprunghub did it have the slickshift gearbox as well.

From memory sprung hub stopped in 1954 with the introduction of the swinging arm.
Its got a bad rep. From what I gather the Mk1 is not great but the Mk2 is less not great.

Slickshift was for one year....58 or 59 then deleted but the cover remained while they used up stock.
Interesting idea, as you changed gear the clutch would operate. Early version of the quick shifter?

Downside is as we have all done when riding along went of non existent next higher gear which would result in clutch disengaging and engine unloaded.

[Blackbird]

From memory sprung hub stopped in 1954 with the introduction of the swinging arm.
Its got a bad rep. From what I gather the Mk1 is not great but the Mk2 is less not great.

I always wondered whether defence scientists got the idea for the Claymore anti-personnel mine from the Triumph sprung hub. Filled with lethal springs and assorted shrapnel, one false move when disassembling or assembling would maim anyone unfortunate enough to get in the way. :laugh:

[Voltaire]

I always wondered whether defence scientists got the idea for the Claymore anti-personnel mine from the Triumph sprung hub. Filled with lethal springs and assorted shrapnel, one false move when disassembling or assembling would maim anyone unfortunate enough to get in the way. :laugh:

Possibly the earliest recorded Warning on a motorcycle.
336721

A jig is required as you say to avoid holes in roof by the two springs under load.

Quite a bit of clever engineering to avoid using a swingarm and damper units or a plunger frame.

Bearings are well over $250.00 each for them as obscure British with little demand.

[Blackbird]

Possibly the earliest recorded Warning on a motorcycle.
336721

A jig is required as you say to avoid holes in roof by the two springs under load.

Quite a bit of clever engineering to avoid using a swingarm and damper units or a plunger frame.

Bearings are well over $250.00 each for them as obscure British with little demand.

Hahahaha - excellent! "Good" old British engineering at the time. Don't get me started on the pressure relief valves: http://geoffjames.blogspot.co.nz/2010/11/triumph-of-motorcycle-design-not.html .

[Voltaire]

Ha, I thought it was just a oil pressure indicator, about as useful by your foot as the gear indicator that some had.:laugh:

[Paul in NZ]

Possibly the earliest recorded Warning on a motorcycle.
336721

A jig is required as you say to avoid holes in roof by the two springs under load.

Quite a bit of clever engineering to avoid using a swingarm and damper units or a plunger frame.

Bearings are well over $250.00 each for them as obscure British with little demand.

That cast in warning was instrumental in me pulling one to bits... Blacksmiths apron, welding helmet and leather gauntlets working from under the bench... Fortunately the thing was flogged out and the springs we not exactly lethal any more. It was a ridiculous bit of kit that must have cost far more than a swing arm frame...

Having said that - when swing arms did appear its fair to say not everyone was a fan. I suppose like anything it took a few attempts to get them to work properly

[Voltaire]

Triumphs first attempt at a swinging arm was to braze on onto the 1"1/2 seat tube and although I never rode mine much in anger they were called the Tuning Fork as they flexed.
The front forks were not much better.
The styling was however very nice.
Those guys who raced them must have had balls of steel.

[Blackbird]

Those guys who raced them must have had balls of steel.

I had a Triumph 3TA as my second ever motorcycle. The handling did indeed leave something to be desired as I thought it must have had a hinge hidden somewhere in the middle of the frame. I wish I'd had balls of steel when a car did a U turn right in front of me. As I exited over the handlebars, my balls connected with the large steering damper knob on the headstock. The resultant swollen purple plums in my trousers had me walking like John Wayne for several days. :weep:

[Voltaire]

Moto Guzzi Lemans 1.

or is it?

336733

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1632750879.htm?rsqid=1a3661d10f4d4c009aabe2a1eed91 642

Hard to tell off the rubbish pictures.
Looks to have correct switchgear, Mk2 tank and the 38mm forks whilst an improvement on the spaggetti thin walled 35mm are also not
original.
Probably a Mk1 but not for a collector.
750 GT in background would be nice to have.

[jellywrestler]

Having said that - when swing arms did appear its fair to say not everyone was a fan. I suppose like anything it took a few attempts to get them to work properly more like just the pig headed attitude of the manufacturers to accept that something else so simple could actually work, velo had the stylish one where the shock could me moved and gave several differnt looks

[ellipsis]

Hahahaha - excellent! "Good" old British engineering at the time. Don't get me started on the pressure relief valves: http://geoffjames.blogspot.co.nz/2010/11/triumph-of-motorcycle-design-not.html .

...don't get me started on it either...the times I sat on the side of the road having two or three cigarettes waiting for my 'mild seizure', in the Triumph area, to disappear while my mates carried on to the destination was very frustrating...all due to that horrid little threaded thing not acting like it should...:laugh:

[Voltaire]

Mk1 Guzzi Lemans.

Sold for 15K, thought it would have gone for more but wrong tank and mods that might not appeal to all.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1632750879&archive=1

Ducati S2 Sold for 20K

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1639347411&archive=1

Norton Commando Interstate Sold for 13K,

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1641314499&archive=1

BMW R60/5 with Sidecar Sold for $7500, ditch the sidecar, fit 750 top end, final drive and cam would be a good bike.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1639321195&archive=1

[kiwimacchi]

I'm sure we've all been here, but sold a nice Darmah 8 years ago for 4.5k, bought that with some of the proceeds from my RC30 at 11.5k!
SIGH.............

[F5 Dave]

I remember when MoggyMan ice creams were 4 cents each.
Wish I'd kept one in the freezer now.

[Voltaire]

Moggy Man....name sounded familiar and I Googled it...TT2's.

Did you have a Walls Ball ice cream too....and those army tanks that came with chewing gum.

Tip for all you wanna be classic bike owners, buy a 90's Ducati 900 Supersport while they are still affordable, even the 600's are a fun bike to ride.

[AllanB]

Ducati S2 Sold for 20K

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1639347411&archive=1

Norton Commando Interstate Sold for 13K,

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1641314499&archive=1



S2 price surprised me. Last of the bevels for a reason, time had passed them by. Still a nice bike, did not think a 20k one though.

Norton price looks about spot on. They have been rising for a decade now. I should have purchased that running one that came with a second full bike but engine in pieces a few decades ago. Can't recall the price - $5k springs to mind ....

[F5 Dave]

Rz350. Prices are going silly right now but more fun than a stoat down your shorts:shit:

[Voltaire]

Slightly scuffed up BMW.
Sold for $3500.00
No doubt will rise Phoenix like with the application of exhaust tape, brown seat and no guards soon for 10K :laugh:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1669976219&archive=1
337392

[F5 Dave]

That's quite a nice fairing is it not? [Rhetorical question of the week].

[jasonu]

That's quite a nice fairing is it not? [Rhetorical question of the week].

You could put on your TM

[F5 Dave]

Trained Monkey?
Teenage Mistress?
Trans-am Muscle-car?



Nah. I don't follow you.:scratch:

Would look pretty sweet on my GasGas though.

[jasonu]

Nah. I don't follow you.:scratch:

Would look pretty sweet on my GasGas though.

Same horse different jokey

[jellywrestler]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1685619714.htm?rsqid=b8ff0a201d3d4357a7385da1e7dfa f11
i'm a little lost for words really

[jasonu]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1685619714.htm?rsqid=b8ff0a201d3d4357a7385da1e7dfa f11
i'm a little lost for words really

Why?
10 chars

[F5 Dave]

Sheesh. Thought the muffler was off a car.

[Kickaha]

i'm a little lost for words really

Which is pretty fucking unusual

[Voltaire]

Norton Wankel

337607

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1703336996.htm?rsqid=5c8c185885dc470ab79283e84f782 8f4

[jellywrestler]

Why?
10 chars

the chimney

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1722783025.htm?rsqid=b32bf1ed33a745cf994aec3ab900c d84

This is good value.

Someone buy it before I do. I don't want to have to get divorced.

[ojyamaha]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1722783025.htm?rsqid=b32bf1ed33a745cf994aec3ab900c d84

This is good value.

Someone buy it before I do. I don't want to have to get divorced.Looks pretty original. I already got a red Kawasaki but I did love those 550's . Divorce maybe too.

Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk

[AllanB]

Norton Wankel


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1703336996.htm?rsqid=5c8c185885dc470ab79283e84f782 8f4

You can see why they went bust back in the day. Ugly thing.


GPZ550 - yum. Always liked those bikes.

[jellywrestler]

You can see why they went bust back in the day. Ugly thing.


. they had several different models available to be fair.

[AllanB]

they had several different models available to be fair.


Yeah - weird friggen rotaries and archaic old pile drivers (which as now possibly one of the sexiest looking old school bikes).

I remember the British Police getting a special rotary model. They were quite possibly the biggest purchaser of them.

[Woodman]

Cool, but not pretty.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1711846522.htm?rsqid=19246096d0504c8f8cbef97ef2826 e2f

[jellywrestler]

Cool, but not pretty.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1711846522.htm?rsqid=19246096d0504c8f8cbef97ef2826 e2f

motor unashamedley copied off a honda 500 four

[husaberg]

motor unashamedley copied off a honda 500 four

Only not as well made, they were never as reliable as a Honda. but interesting bikes.
Motobecane who were the french distributors of Benelli made an endurence bike out of a Benelli 900 sei in the late 70's
338136338137338138338139
there was a wee bit on in in Classic bike
Give me Italian styling over french any day of the week
https://www.motobecane-passion.fr/nouvellepage38.htm
http://www.moto-collection.org/moto-collection/modele_en.php?idfiche=415
http://www.benelli.nl/moc-antar-motobecane-benelli/

[Woodman]

These are still my favourite Benelli 6,s.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1724049921.htm?rsqid=a20ffee70e2f48299d7f1226e9b67 acd


I think this needs a bigger seat.

[F5 Dave]

If the seat Hump was bigger it would look like a giant snail was humping it.

Geez dude get out and ride. Oohh my wife won't let me.

Geez just tell her it gets rid of the feelings involving the nubile 20something that moved in down the road that gets out running. Have you seen her?! (Fictitious but she doesn't need to know that).

[AllanB]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1724049921.htm?rsqid=a20ffee70e2f48299d7f1226e9b67 acd


I think this needs a bigger seat.


I always question a advert when the photos are only of one side of the bike/car

[Voltaire]

Looked at this for about 20 minutes today thinking " that won't last long"....
I thought easy fix and flip but alas common sense kicked in.... I hate common sense, I want to be spontaneous but would need to plan for it.:innocent:
338736
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1750602440&archive=1

He broke my Trade Me rule of never ever put a low buy it now price on or list in the middle of the day.

[Voltaire]

Series 1 BMW R90/S, looks to be within the first 1000 made of 17 000.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1756282467
By BMW standards barely run in at 54 000 miles, if it was British would be on its 2nd engine rebuild.
$18K
In my opinion probably one of the best all rounders of its time.
338802

[HenryDorsetCase]

I like that colour scheme.

[Voltaire]

Ducati 750
Probably go for 20-25K as TM bidding madness ramps up.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1786138817.htm?rsqid=5b952f3f0d8a43ec88868ccd1ad6b d5c
339056

[Voltaire]

Gotta love TM adds.

339159

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1794604542.htm?rsqid=ee9cbe88e8b44b118c4c09ff1e6bc 594

[F5 Dave]

. . . been garaged for all of its life . .

He could never get it started.

The garage had no roof either.

[Voltaire]

Ducati 750
Probably go for 20-25K as TM bidding madness ramps up.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1786138817.htm?rsqid=5b952f3f0d8a43ec88868ccd1ad6b d5c
339056

SOLD for 29K

[AllanB]

SOLD for 29K


I had been watching that one go up in price as the auction rolled on. So given it was a almost original clean example what's a full restro minter worth!

It's interesting as these are the bikes that Ducati made a performance reputation on, but also one for poor reliability. Yet now the are highly desirable and more expensive that a modern reliable one ...... :bleh:

[Voltaire]

I had been watching that one go up in price as the auction rolled on. So given it was a almost original clean example what's a full restro minter worth!

It's interesting as these are the bikes that Ducati made a performance reputation on, but also one for poor reliability. Yet now the are highly desirable and more expensive that a modern reliable one ...... :bleh:

Refer to other thread about RTG Rose tinted Glasses.

I've been watching Bevel prices for ages and the round case ones go for high prices now.
It comes down to having two keen bidders in a lot of cases with RTG and a few wines in.
I suppose todays Ducati owners can thank Ducati for hanging on as long as they did in the 80's....it looked pretty bleak about 1986.

[Voltaire]

This sold for 15K
Not bad for a non running bike and in my opinion not greatly desirable.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1790425842&archive=1
339189

[Grumph]

Refer to other thread about RTG Rose tinted Glasses.

I've been watching Bevel prices for ages and the round case ones go for high prices now.
It comes down to having two keen bidders in a lot of cases with RTG and a few wines in.
I suppose todays Ducati owners can thank Ducati for hanging on as long as they did in the 80's....it looked pretty bleak about 1986.

We took one of those - may even have been that one, there were very few imported - to the Superbike round for the owner who rode it in the BEARS support class. It was so stock he had to remove the centerstand before racing it. He forgot about the stand for a couple of months and I had it under my bench....If I still had it, I wonder what it's worth, LOL.
He was the sort of owner those bikes needed. Worked for Auto Restorations in ChCh and had been right through it before racing it. Last heard of working for Deus in Auckland.

[Grumph]

This sold for 15K
Not bad for a non running bike and in my opinion not greatly desirable.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1790425842&archive=1
339189

I can't see the listing - but can see the pic. Something looks off. Forks set on sidecar geometry ?

[Voltaire]

I can't see the listing - but can see the pic. Something looks off. Forks set on sidecar geometry ?

Not sure what you mean, I think all post war BMW's had Earles Forks up to about the late 60's. Apparently they ride ok.

Didn't BMW invent Tele forks...just before dub dub two for TT races?

Before Don Quoteote Googles it and corrects me....


The first production motorcycles with hydraulically damped telescopic forks were the German BMW R12 and R17 in 1935.[2] However, undamped telescopic forks were used on bikes made by The Scott Motorcycle Company from the beginning of production in 1908,[3] and the Danish Nimbus used them from 1934 on

[Grumph]

Not sure what you mean, I think all post war BMW's had Earles Forks up to about the late 60's. Apparently they ride ok.


Yes, they do. I've ridden a couple of them. But that one just looks wrong to my eye. They do have alternative trail settings for solo or sidecar use.
Can't work out why it looks wrong - maybe shock length is non stock.

[sidecar bob]

Not sure what you mean, I think all post war BMW's had Earles Forks up to about the late 60's. Apparently they ride ok.


It seems the Americans were a bit sus of the Earles front end & had BMW produce the R50US, which has the same tele's as used in the later /5 bikes.
I have a '66 model in my hallway, so was mildly chuffed at what the /2 just got at auction.
I've had a hard look at the pics of that 600 & the forks are in the solo position. I think it's a combo of the ridiculous seat, along with the carrier that make it look a bit off.
I removed the carrier from mine because it ruined the visual balance of the bike, which is quite fragile.

[Grumph]

Yeah - that seat and the high carrier make it look crumpled in the middle. They need a straight top line to look decent IMO.

A mate had what I assume was an R69US at the time of his death. R69 just as you'd expect but with the same early teles as that R50.
It was known to have been imported ex the US.

[Voltaire]

Looks like a good buy.
82 GSX750 for $4700, been sitting a while.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1838949863.htm?rsqid=f207044f54ac4422863e73526e790 0f6

[F5 Dave]

A wire Wheel GSX750. Hmm. . . OK. Still looks good so why not? Pipes are biggest thing to let it down. And the inevitable "it's not an 1100". But why do people buy cafe racer lash ups when this is way cooler?

[fridayflash]

those spoked wheels are interesting, look pretty good really...more classic than the mag wheels.. they mustve come off a gs750 or summat.
i had a 750 the same colour scheme as this one, easy bike to fang and throw around:scooter:

[HenryDorsetCase]

those spoked wheels are interesting, look pretty good really...more classic than the mag wheels.. they mustve come off a gs750 or summat.
i had a 750 the same colour scheme as this one, easy bike to fang and throw around:scooter:

I had a GSX750 for a while also. Mine was faster than yours because mine was red. It had those star alloy wheels though. Mine was probably an 81?

[jellywrestler]

I had a GSX750 for a while also. Mine was faster than yours because mine was red. It had those star alloy wheels though. Mine was probably an 81?

that ones an 81 EX, was annoyed when i brought my gs550 new, the 750 sitting next to it had a sold label on it otherwise i would have brought it, didn't realise they had heaps at that price....
still, i think i learnt to handle a bike better on the smaller 550 than i would have with the 750.

[F5 Dave]

My 81 550 was a great bike. Rode the 750 later. Was nice but really not that much extra go to it

[Voltaire]

This is cool, would be great if I owned a shop repairing Classic European motorcycles, could be used for getting the coffees and pastries in.

339519
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1840288515.htm?rsqid=993e7359b07440c9864a3a5af4279 086

[Voltaire]

One of Edward Turners designs ( he of the Triumph Speed Twin to Bonnie).

Twin cranks, one in front t'other, this is a later one with 4 exhausts.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/911666064.jpg

339520

One of the guys in the VCC Motorcycle Section has one and says they are a great ride, he is however usually on a 20's HD sidecar outfit.

[husaberg]

One of Edward Turners designs ( he of the Triumph Speed Twin to Bonnie).

Twin cranks, one in front t'other, this is a later one with 4 exhausts.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/911666064.jpg

339520

One of the guys in the VCC Motorcycle Section has one and says they are a great ride, he is however usually on a 20's HD sidecar outfit.

A guy done the road from me has two Mark 4 twin pipers, bloody heavy but sound great on straight pipes.

[fridayflash]

One of Edward Turners designs ( he of the Triumph Speed Twin to Bonnie).

Twin cranks, one in front t'other, this is a later one with 4 exhausts.

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/911666064.jpg

339520

One of the guys in the VCC Motorcycle Section has one and says they are a great ride, he is however usually on a 20's HD sidecar outfit.


Aerial square four? always wondered how they ran that configuration

[husaberg]

Aerial square four? always wondered how they ran that configuration
Last one is the first model that was the OHC version.

339552339554339553 339551

[Blackbird]

We were touring Tassie in 2013 and found a cool motorcycle museum in a little town on the east coast. Among the exhibits was this cool stretched Norton Featherbed-framed Square 4 engine with open megaphones. The builder was the museum owner and he'd even cast new heads for it. He said it was only good for about 180 km/hr but attracted lots of attention because of its looks and sound.

[Voltaire]

Ducati 750GT
Other than the colour very tasty.
339593
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1842128571.htm?rsqid=e2d362d104264b34a956aca28730a 0d8

[F5 Dave]

The colour is great, it just needs some decals and it would look real sharp. So why hasn't he put them on?

[Voltaire]

The colour is great, it just needs some decals and it would look real sharp. So why hasn't he put them on?

cheeky

339602

[AllanB]

Ducati 750GT
Other than the colour very tasty.
339593
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1842128571.htm?rsqid=e2d362d104264b34a956aca28730a 0d8


I like the sight glass in the head.

How's the asking price for a bitsa? My old best man restored one of these maybe 30 plus years back. Can't remember what he sold it for back then .... I should have purchased it, it sounded fantastic.

[jim.cox]

it just needs some decals and it would look real sharp. So why hasn't he put them on?

The tank and sidecover badges are not decals - they are 3d castings and a little hard to get

[Grumph]

cheeky

339602

I remember that ad running in Cycle mag. Their road test of the GT complained of a fly laminated into the fiberglass...

To which someone replied that at least it was an Italian fly.

And someone else reckoned they could see a fly on her bum....

[F5 Dave]

That was Phil Schilling or whoever on the racebike.

Yes granted screw up, thinking of the 900s with decals.
Hey I'm a young man at barely 50.

[Voltaire]

Suzuki GXS 1100 4K buy it now
339623
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846129290.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85

[Voltaire]

If you have ever lusted after a SL350 here is your chance.
$12500...but beware of the skid demon who lurks.
339624
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846037127.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85

[Voltaire]

Yamaha 750 Triple
$6500 buy it now
339625
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846032112.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85

[Oscar]

Yamaha 750 Triple
$6500 buy it now
339625
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846032112.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85

It was horrible when it was new, it will be old and horrible now.
Buy his XS650.

[F5 Dave]

Suzuki GXS 1100 4K buy it now
339623
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1846129290.htm?rsqid=5814dbc2cb234de3835fdc13b8ed7 a85
Now despite the garish 90s decals that is great value. Compare that to 1/2 The shite on their for 4k.

[jasonu]

Ducati 750GT
Other than the colour very tasty.
339593
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1842128571.htm?rsqid=e2d362d104264b34a956aca28730a 0d8

Sounds like a lot for a non original bike but I don't follow Ducks so what would I know.

[ojyamaha]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/1847098378

Nice but pricey

Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk

[Voltaire]

Honda Cafe Racer.
$13950
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1852342563&ed=true
339679

[sidecar bob]

Honda Cafe Racer.
$13950
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1852342563&ed=true
339679

I'd be happy to sell a few origonal bits off mine on trademe & use the money to buy other bits & sell it to you for half that.

[Voltaire]

I'd be happy to sell a few origonal bits off mine on trademe & use the money to buy other bits & sell it to you for half that.

Its Mr Collins bike, he of the BMW race bike.

Build quality is pretty high.

I've got enough cafe styled bikes.

[jellywrestler]

Its Mr Collins bike, he of the BMW race bike.

Build quality is pretty high.

I've got enough cafe styled bikes.

adrian ??????????????????????

[Voltaire]

adrian ??????????????????????

Yes correct.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Honda Cafe Racer.
$13950
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1852342563&ed=true
339679

I want that. Really bad. bad timing money wise though.

[AllanB]

I want that. Really bad. bad timing money wise though.

It's very nice. What do you think of the price?

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's very nice. What do you think of the price?

could you or I build it or anything like that money? Hell naw. The motor rebuild alone is $4k plus - more if more bits replaced, custom fabrication, blahdeblah.

I love it

[Grumph]

Honda Cafe Racer.
$13950
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1852342563&ed=true
339679

I can see the pic but not the ad...so, where's the oil ?
Probably built from an F2 rather than a K series too - but only a single front disc....

And why the hell the cheap cone filters - like the CX cafe, spoilt for the sake of a few more dollars.

[husaberg]

I can see the pic but not the ad...so, where's the oil ?
Probably built from an F2 rather than a K series too - but only a single front disc....

And why the hell the cheap cone filters - like the CX cafe, spoilt for the sake of a few more dollars.

It got me too Greg the oil tank is beneath the swingarm its mentioned in the blurb, being a Dresda i would haver prefered a manx style center oil tank.
Interestingly Dave Dregens used to both ride and Prep the Honda GB endurance bikers of the Hondaline ara

[pete376403]

I can see the pic but not the ad...so, where's the oil ?
Probably built from an F2 rather than a K series too - but only a single front disc....

And why the hell the cheap cone filters - like the CX cafe, spoilt for the sake of a few more dollars.

Oil tank is under the swingarm. Pretty neat
I had an old yella F2. Best remembered for breaking the chain and holing the cases. Graham Berry (f race car and hot rod fame) welded it up as good as new.

[AllanB]

I can see the pic but not the ad...so, where's the oil ?
.


Looks to be a tank under the swingarm by the filler tube and oil lines. Picture below.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I can see the pic but not the ad...so, where's the oil ?
Probably built from an F2 rather than a K series too - but only a single front disc....

And why the hell the cheap cone filters - like the CX cafe, spoilt for the sake of a few more dollars.

its a CB750F1 - disc rear but it will have the later head. They only had a single front disc. - an F2 (Comstars but SOHC) had two.

I'm waiting for a guy in a CB750 group I am in to finish designing a setup to take a Wilwood 4 piston caliper. That and a modern disc (lighter and way better friction material will be good enough for a road bike (with a fork brace)..... the problem with improvements in one area will be showing up weaknesses in another.

[Voltaire]

1969 Norton Commando project, currently $8795.00, updated $9200.00

SOLD for 15K.

Paintwork done and instruments rebuilt but still a lot to do.

339701

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1848106745

Probably at least another 5K to spend.

I would have thought with the demograph who lusted after these going 'electric' popularity would have tapered off.

[AllanB]

Farrrrrrrrrrk $15k for a motorcycle in parts.

What's it worth when complete?

[Voltaire]

I sold a good running Commando about 2 years ago for 12K, and bought a slightly better one or 13K.
This one is non matching numbers which really makes the ride less enjoyable...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1856878553.htm?rsqid=fc3b4bdfcf534d02acccd71fc382c 670

339718

The buyer for the Norton has a rather nice T160 for sale, so clearly he knows about British Money Pits.
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/871174519.jpg
339719

Maybe there is a touch of FOMO when you see the bidding wars.

[Voltaire]

CB 360
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1855227402.htm?rsqid=3202868117094ee697a053264d849 c1f
339720

When I had my SL125, so wanted one of these :drool:, then a 500/4 came up.

[AllanB]

CB 360
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1855227402.htm?rsqid=3202868117094ee697a053264d849 c1f
339720

When I had my SL125, so wanted one of these :drool:, then a 500/4 came up.


Ha when I had my CB200 the 360 was going to be the next step up - until I rode one. Heavy and slow so I shelled out some extra coin for a brand new Kawasaki Z440.

I'll be interested to see what that one goes for - they are very rare on the roads now days and it's mint aside from what is probably just stuck piston rings. Where is Cassina? half a can of CRC down each bore will fix it aye?

[Voltaire]

Ducati Darmah.18K start price.

339734

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1857633447.htm?rsqid=3de5c882fa764f5cb7387e423625a 42e

[AllanB]

Mmmm nice Ducati.

Side note - it's running $120 a piece mufflers. For one that clean I'd be adding some decent Conti replicas.

Side note 2 - I ran a set of those mufflers years back on a 750 twin Kawasaki (when they were $90...) they are actually a OK pipe and you can unbolt the ends to fark around with the guts and repack or modify.

[Voltaire]

Mmmm nice Ducati.

Side note - it's running $120 a piece mufflers. For one that clean I'd be adding some decent Conti replicas.

Side note 2 - I ran a set of those mufflers years back on a 750 twin Kawasaki (when they were $90...) they are actually a OK pipe and you can unbolt the ends to fark around with the guts and repack or modify.

And the wrong headlight mounts, footpegs, front brake lines are incorrect and the front wheel/brake is 4 bolt ( earlier) and rear looks to be 6.
Don't like the foam air cleaners either, but otherwise a nice looking bike.:sherlock:

I had those mufflers on a BSA Lightning years ago, Dunstall replicas? sound good but rusted quick.

[AllanB]

I had those mufflers on a BSA Lightning years ago, Dunstall replicas? sound good but rusted quick.

That's them. Ex China. I had no issue with rust but had to replace the packing within a week - pretty sure they used old-man belly button fluff....

[F5 Dave]

What a Drama.

See what I did there?8

[Voltaire]

Norton Commando Roadster

339828

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1861088710

Beats me why people selling old bikes sell as is where is when surely a WOF is pretty easy to get and rego is like $50 a year.

Not mentioned but probably the infamous Combat engine as falls is the number range. ( although may have been rebuilt)

Clues are 1972, engine number and head to cylinder clearance gap.

Norton shaved the head to increase compression, hogged out the inlet ports and put 32 mm Amals on them.

That and low gearing along with some articles on beating Kawasaki 500's led to them being thrashed and for an engine that was designed as

a 500 with a bolt up crank it was all a bit much. I gather the bearings were a bit rigid of all this flailing around and tended to fail.

Superblend bearings which I understand have barrel shaped rollers were substituted. ( no first hand experience with these as only done

Triumphs and BMW's)

Saying that well sorted Commando is a fun ride as the isolastic rubber mounted engine/gearbox/swingarm give a very smooth vibration free

ride.

Be prepared for owner involvement and spending lots on improvements.

Unable to find any citations in my usual Stalinist publications :yawn:

[Oscar]

"Owner involvement..."

339829

[Ocean1]

"Owner involvement..."

339829

XL175 I believe.

[Oscar]

XL175 I believe.

Amazingly enough, I couldn't find a picture of someone pushing a Norton.
Who'd a thunk it...

[Ocean1]

Amazingly enough, I couldn't find a picture of someone pushing a Norton.
Who'd a thunk it...

It's the failure mode field they emanate, fucks up everything for yards around, including cameras.

[Voltaire]

"Owner involvement..."

339829


It's the failure mode field they emanate, fucks up everything for yards around, including cameras.

Whatevah...:bleh:

339836

[husaberg]

Amazingly enough, I couldn't find a picture of someone pushing a Norton.
Who'd a thunk it...
Maybe people with Nortons tend not to have friends to take the pics or it seems tripods.......

[F5 Dave]

Well, it looks nice.

. . . Not the xl175 clearly.

[Oscar]

Well, it looks nice.

. . . Not the xl175 clearly.

Come on, there's nowt wrong with an XL175.

[jim.cox]

there's nowt wrong with an XL175

...that being squashed by a piano won't fix :)

[Oscar]

...that being squashed by a piano won't fix :)

They were pretty good in their day.
Gary Wendt won the National Enduro Title on bored out XL175.

All my mates had Xl175K1's, I had a Suzuki TS185.
The Suzook was faster in a straight line but in the forest there wasn't much between them.

[F5 Dave]

I learnt to ride on my sister's xl185, which is somewhat different sure, but neither are pretty in a Norton kind of way.

I'd prefer a TS250M over all 3.

Until I rode one I'm sure, but that pipe guard is something.

[Ocean1]

They were pretty good in their day.
Gary Wendt won the National Enduro Title on bored out XL175.

All my mates had Xl175K1's, I had a Suzuki TS185.
The Suzook was faster in a straight line but in the forest there wasn't much between them.

The abuse mine took trying to keep up with my mates on their TS185s was amazing, the tacho would regularly point to Nippon Denso. I did put three pistons in it though. :laugh:

Sweet handling wee thing, and the couple of xtra hp I wrung out of it via a cam and compression improved it no end.

[Voltaire]

I had a SL 125 with a XR200 motor in it....whoopie.:facepalm:

[husaberg]

Well, it looks nice.

. . . Not the xl175 clearly.

339829
What then if not the bike the dudes Butt?

The XL175 is an weirdly odd honda orphan nothing much in common engine wise with anything else that i have seen
looks more half a CB350/360 than any of the other singles

[F5 Dave]

339829
What then if not the bike the dudes Butt?

. . .
Um, still the Norton, but don't let me distract you from what catches your eye.

[husaberg]

Um, still the Norton, but don't let me distract you from what catches your eye.
Neither comandos or dudes buttts do, a manx or a nice 650ss maybe

[Voltaire]

Moving on from fantasy land.

Another fine Commando, met reserve at 13K so realist price.
339842

Usual non bidder tyre kicking matching numbers questions.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1864862149.htm?rsqid=239f5411a6bb4b559af9bbc9e387b b31
only 64K on Trade Me, great value for the 40minutes you can use it 4 times a year at CMRR events.:laugh:

[Grumph]

Moving on from fantasy land.

only 64K on Trade Me, great value for the 40minutes you can use it 4 times a year at CMRR events.:laugh:

Move South...Better circuits, in use more often.
That said, any race bike sold ex Auckland has to be viewed suspiciously. Don't care who's selling it.
Many years of observation - and being caught personally once - leads me to believe it's a different mindset ooop there.
My standard advice now is to only believe half the claims - and strip the bike immediately on arrival....

[Voltaire]

Move South...Better circuits, in use more often.
That said, any race bike sold ex Auckland has to be viewed suspiciously. Don't care who's selling it.
Many years of observation - and being caught personally once - leads me to believe it's a different mindset ooop there.
My standard advice now is to only believe half the claims - and strip the bike immediately on arrival....

Don't say that, I'm probably listing my 72 ( ish) BMW race bike soon as hanging up leathers.:innocent:
But hanging onto the R65 one that I bought of 'Bruce" in ChCh as it goes quite well.
Auckland mindset...I'll have to ponder that over my trim while latte and organic carrot cake.

[Voltaire]

Suzuki RE5
Love the dash.
339843
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1870244264.htm?rsqid=2ee49d52ec994583b88129a192114 3b8

Anyone actually owned/ridden one of these?
Back in the day stories of TS 185's do not count.:laugh:

[Oscar]

Back in the day stories of TS 185's do not count.:laugh:

Meh.
I'm not wasting any TS185 stories on anyone who can't make up his mind between a Norton and an RE5.
Anyone with that level of mental illness can make up his own stories, far better than mine...

[Voltaire]

Meh.
I'm not wasting any TS185 stories on anyone who can't make up his mind between a Norton and an RE5.
Anyone with that level of mental illness can make up his own stories, far better than mine...

If its quirky I like it, but only in a " thats interesting" rather than " I want" sort of way.

Once upon a time I rode a Honda 150 2 up from Saigon to Hanoi..... Honda Fighthawk, but rule #1 of Fighthawk Club was no talking about it.:scooter:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Suzuki RE5
Love the dash.
339843
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1870244264.htm?rsqid=2ee49d52ec994583b88129a192114 3b8

Anyone actually owned/ridden one of these?
Back in the day stories of TS 185's do not count.:laugh:

one of my mates brothers was one of the top rotary engine mechanics in the South Island, and my mate had a seriously quick RX7 (when that was a hella expensive car). He decided on a whim one day to buy an RE5 and sourced one out of Welly. I got to put it on the ferry and ride it down the coast.

It was great. Very expensive on fuel as I recall, heavy, but made a great noise and very very smooth. I was riding my yellow "Custard Tart" CB750 F1 at the time and it was a fair bit more refined than that. I really liked the little mouth at the front of the exhaust to feed cool air into them to stop them exploding or something.

would trade again.

[Voltaire]

Velocette and Norton at Turners Auction.



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1873122080.htm?rsqid=3efa32d0f3ee4528894c56fb609bf 49c

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1873121092.htm?rsqid=3efa32d0f3ee4528894c56fb609bf 49c

[Voltaire]

Commando sold for 16K, 2.5K above reserve.
The KB optimistic sellers will need to keep saving as classic prices go up :yes:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1861088710&archive=1

[Voltaire]

Velocette and Norton at Turners Auction.



https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1873122080.htm?rsqid=3efa32d0f3ee4528894c56fb609bf 49c

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1873121092.htm?rsqid=3efa32d0f3ee4528894c56fb609bf 49c

Velocette sold for 15K, I'm no expert but that seems on the low side for an OHC 500.

The 2008 Bonnie with under 10K on the clock went for $8.5K.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1873124521&archive=1

[AllanB]

The 2008 Bonnie with under 10K on the clock went for $8.5K.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1873124521&archive=1


For a ten year old Bonnie that's what they should be selling for. For some reason shops and punters put silly prices on them. They are not a special bike.

[Voltaire]

For a ten year old Bonnie that's what they should be selling for. For some reason shops and punters put silly prices on them. They are not a special bike.

That 10 years went awfully fast.:shutup:

[AllanB]

That 10 years went awfully fast.:shutup:


Yeah - about to tick over another one in just over a week!

[BMWST?]

hmmm
should i get another one (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1843136580.htm)

[Voltaire]

hmmm
should i get another one (https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1843136580.htm)

:yawn:
Maybe think outside the Box ( a bits)...;)
339953
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1880590000.htm?rsqid=80ea8810d7bb45238b49f74117de7 8c3

[Voltaire]

Ducati Paso for parts.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1893822737.htm?rsqid=7fbf9c3d73a54d50b3c1185c71fcd 3b3

The frame looks to have been build by a company that did school chairs and tables.:lol:
When they came out I have just bought my Darmah, saw them in Frazers and thought far too much bodywork, can see why now.

340131

[Tofu]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/other/listing-1899095229.htm?rsqid=8371a65d3fbf4452a506a64160cc8 21a

Needs work but still worth it imo.

[jasonu]

Not Trademe but here it is anyway.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Honda-Other/143079189479?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[husaberg]

Not Trademe but here it is anyway.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Honda-Other/143079189479?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I remember being let loose on one when i was about 17 and working at a yamaha dealership i was told to take it out to the country and clean up the pipes.
Sure beat putting together endless 4 wheelers.
While not as grunty hpwise as a RZ or RG500 i thing they were a better road bike.

[Voltaire]

Norton Commando
Starting price 24K or leap in and hit the BIN for 28K
340275
Phil not included.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1905465658.htm?rsqid=e74129c03c424062903a7697784e8 fdd
In one of the other pics is a Blue BMW I sold him, and behind that another that Hugh Anderson used to own.

[jasonu]

Modern classic?????
https://speed-box.ch/sales-details/734.html

[HenryDorsetCase]

OK, either of these are good buying. Anyone know the guy.

I am currently dithering about a "buy now" on the VFR

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950077966.htm?rsqid=516cd61c3ae943669103e91173360 4f8

First year Fireblade. "Wrong" colourscheme (my mates one in 93 was the white/purple/orange) but this looks pretty tidy.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950107240.htm?rsqid=5da3624abdfd4139968b62ea734a1 2a4

The tidiest VFR NC30 on tardme in a while

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950107240.htm?rsqid=5da3624abdfd4139968b62ea734a1 2a4

The tidiest VFR NC30 on tardme in a while

Same they never built a 750 version.
I am talking affordable rather than RC30.
The VFR750f's are kind of bland tourers that got no faster after about 87 if anything they got slower

[layton]

OK, either of these are good buying. Anyone know the guy.

I am currently dithering about a "buy now" on the VFR

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950077966.htm?rsqid=516cd61c3ae943669103e91173360 4f8

First year Fireblade. "Wrong" colourscheme (my mates one in 93 was the white/purple/orange) but this looks pretty tidy.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1950107240.htm?rsqid=5da3624abdfd4139968b62ea734a1 2a4

The tidiest VFR NC30 on tardme in a while

Hmmm maybe one of these?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1936591985.htm?rsqid=d6828f3a84444221b17c346d328de 7c7

Looks like a good buy to me

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hmmm maybe one of these?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1936591985.htm?rsqid=d6828f3a84444221b17c346d328de 7c7

Looks like a good buy to me

there are about four on there. That is cheap yes but it will never appreciate (if thats your thing) because of how non-original it is. Its also an SP2 not an SP1. Definitely a better bike but again collector value is less.

If you wanted it as a thrasher and trackday toy, your entry cost is very reasonable.....

[F5 Dave]

How about that? Thought I was going potty, but marketed here and most sensible places as VTR1000 sp2, but RTV1000 US etc. Odd. Oops RVT. Doesn't roll off the tongue very well does it?

[HenryDorsetCase]

How about that? Thought I was going potty, but marketed here and most sensible places as VTR1000 sp2, but RTV1000 US etc. Odd. Oops RVT. Doesn't roll off the tongue very well does it?

Presumably the septics got the VTR1000 Fartstorm and didn't want the confusion. These are completely different and have Ti rods n'shit.

[Oscar]

Why would you butcher a classic?
340887

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1952089995.htm?rsqid=1a2348353ad0498fa0360657b4fca da0

This thing started life looking like this:
340888
It was styled by Hans Muth and less than 6500 were made.
It is a little darling and very collectable.

And the other thing - if this is a "Custom Racer" with a sporty fairing, clips on and rear-sets, why the fuck has he got knobbly tyres on it!!!

And all for only $12,300!!!
A bargain!!!
What a pillock.

[Oscar]

Oh, and pipe wrap.
Why the fuck has he got pipe wrap on it?

[Voltaire]

Thanks for the heads up, I've asked if he has the original parts for a rainy day if I decide to turn my racer back to original. I got it as a stripped down racer but turns out its a matching numbers LS.

[jellywrestler]

Why would you butcher a classic?




This thing started life looking like this:
340888
It was styled by Hans Muth and less than 6500 were made.
It is a little darling and very collectable.

And the other thing - if this is a "Custom Racer" with a sporty fairing, clips on and rear-sets, why the fuck has he got knobbly tyres on it!!!

And all for only $12,300!!!
A bargain!!!
What a pillock. styled by someone that probably owned one of those bald cats and had a hanky in their top pocket all the time, fact is they only sold a limited number as no-one wanted any more.

[Voltaire]

styled by someone that probably owned one of those bald cats and had a hanky in their top pocket all the time, fact is they only sold a limited number as no-one wanted any more.

Perhaps they should export hankies and bald cats to the US and UK as they have outlasted nearly all and dabble in cars too.:innocent:

[sidecar bob]

Why would you butcher a classic?


This thing started life looking like this:
340888
It was styled by Hans Muth and less than 6500 were made.
It is a little darling and very collectable.
.

Anyone else see a hint of Katana 1100 in there?
Styled by the Same bloke.

[Oscar]

Anyone else see a hint of Katana 1100 in there?
Styled by the Same bloke.

Yup.
I remember when they came out - amazing what some small styling changes added to the bike.

[husaberg]

Anyone else see a hint of Katana 1100 in there?
Styled by the Same bloke.

Just as ugly even uglier with the wheels
They would have been better off getting Jabba the Hutt to do the styling

[sidecar bob]

Just as ugly even uglier with the wheels
They would have been better off getting Jabba the Hutt to do the styling

Lighten up bro.
You seem a bit negative lately, everything ok?

[husaberg]

Lighten up bro.
You seem a bit negative lately, everything ok?

In know you like the teutonic styling but there are all ugly.
i have always been negative on hans Murfins styling.
Those sunken star wars headlights look gay shite on a BMW, shit on a Katana, Shite on a Impulse.

[jasonu]

Here's 3 beauties from the same seller on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Honda-CB/143130074677?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Honda-CB/143136077155?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Honda-CB/143136102422?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[husaberg]

Here's 3 beauties from the same seller on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Honda-CB/143130074677?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Honda-CB/143136077155?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Honda-CB/143136102422?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I dont think the US got these other than as Private imports did they?

[jasonu]

I dont think the US got these other than as Private imports did they?

Nope not sold new in the states. These are in France.

[husaberg]

Nope not sold new in the states. These are in France.

Okay afaik NZ an Aussie only got very limited numbers for homologation only all years were different i think the last were South African.
I never seen one in Yank mag i assumed you never got them, As your rules were pretty free and easy and lenient or Production racing mods.

[jellywrestler]

Okay afaik NZ an Aussie only got very limited numbers for homologation only all years were different i think the last were South African.
I never seen one in Yank mag i assumed you never got them, As your rules were pretty free and easy and lenient or Production racing mods.

we only go t the rb they sold in england too

[AllanB]

Mmmmmm CB1100R Many a visit was made to the Honda dealer when they arrived in stock back in the day.

Maybe it's age but there are not many new bikes that get me pressed up against a cold glass shop window at 10pm anymore.

Actually it's probably because they are all so bloody good now. It's like the world is populated with supermodels.

[AllanB]

Why would you butcher a classic?


https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1952089995.htm?rsqid=1a2348353ad0498fa0360657b4fca da0

This thing started life looking like this:
340888
It was styled by Hans Muth and less than 6500 were made.
It is a little darling and very collectable.

And the other thing - if this is a "Custom Racer" with a sporty fairing, clips on and rear-sets, why the fuck has he got knobbly tyres on it!!!

And all for only $12,300!!!
A bargain!!!
What a pillock.

I'm with you - he/she has wrecked a very nice bike.

[husaberg]

we only go t the rb they sold in england too

Really i was going through some aussie write up a while back i thought it said we got all three same as aussie as well but the last was a Saffa import.
The aussies competition tried to ban the first one for some silly reason (cant remeber what but maybe seat of rear pegs or something but it wasnt in the rules so it didn't work.
I am far to young to remember myself so i will bow to your knowledge Spyda.

this is an electronic version of what i read
https://www.oldbikemag.com.au/honda-cb1100r-machine-mission/
I have always fancied turning a bolladoor into a RCB rep or a plonking a CBX750 into a CB750 K1 style running gear.
CBX750's were well under rated cheap fun bikes

[jasonu]

Really i was going through some aussie write up a while back i thought it said we got all three same as aussie as well but the last was a Saffa import.
The aussies competition tried to ban the first one for some silly reason (cant remeber what but maybe seat of rear pegs or something but it wasnt in the rules so it didn't work.
I am far to young to remember myself so i will bow to your knowledge Spyda.

this is an electronic version of what i read
https://www.oldbikemag.com.au/honda-cb1100r-machine-mission/
I have always fancied turning a bolladoor into a RCB rep or a plonking a CBX750 into a CB750 K1 style running gear.
CBX750's were well under rated cheap fun bikes

I found this. Sounds about right but just like the liberal media I will post it without first checking for actual accuracy...

Just in case you are interested in a story before the RC30 was even a twinkle and HRC did not exist, the First True Homologation Honda Race Bike available to joe public.
The Honda CB1100R was an exotic Honda model that was produced in limited numbers from 1981–1983. It was a sport bike based on the Honda CB900F. The R suffix denotes a racing version, however the CB1100R was a road-legal machine produced by Honda and offered for sale to the public. It was produced only in numbers sufficient to meet the homologation requirements for the R to be classed as a production motorcycle in markets into which it was sold. It was Honda’s first ‘homologation special’ and was raced in the production class racing in most major markets: including Europe, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. It was not sold in the US.
In 1981 the CB1100R won the New Zealand Castrol Six Hour ridden by Australian pair of Malcolm Campbell and Mick Cole. The CB1100R won the premier Australian production race in 1982, the Castrol Six Hour in the hands of future 1987 500cc GP World Champion Wayne Gardner and teammate Wayne Clark. Other CB1100Rs finished the race 2nd, 3rd and 4th, with 6 CB11000Rs finishing in the top 8 spots. The Australasian success of the CB1100R lead directly to the development of the Suzuki GSX1100SXZ Katana homologation racing specials.
The model designations are CB1100RB (1981), CB1100RC (1982), and CB1100RD (1983). In 1981, 1050 units were sold, followed by 1500 per year in 1982 and 1983. The 1981 ‘RB’ was half faired with a solo seat only. The 82 and 83 models have different bodywork including a full fairing, aluminium fuel tank, and pillion seat covered with a removable seat cowl. The 82 (RC) and 83 (RD) were largely similar in appearance, yet with considerable differences in the full fairing and dashboard layout. None of the faring parts of any of the 3 models are interchangable wih one another! The RC fairing, fairing bracket and dashboard combo was only made for the RC and does not interchange in any way with the RD, which had a slightly shorter overall length. Other differences include the paint scheme, rear swing arm design and color and front fork design. In 1983 the Honda CB1100F was launched that essentially was a blend of the CB1100R and the CB900F, for a broader market. The 1981 CB1100RB had a claimed 115 hp (86 kW) @ 9000 rpm.

4782 RC30’s between 1987-1990, 4050 CB1100R’s between 1981-1983 – who wants one?

[jellywrestler]

typical wikipedia, they forgot the RB-1 unfaired version

we only got the RB $9995 new when i'm pretty sure the 900F was $5295, nearlty double for a single seat motorcycle but they sold.
i brought one in 1987 $3500 never been in the rain, long story, only had it three weeks, regret selling it to this day.
there were only ever a couple of RC's and RD's in the country,
ask king still has a brand new one in a crate, although one wonders what state it's in living in new plymouth with a seas salt atmosphere....
parts were taken off it as spares for the race bike too.
still love to see it with my own eyes.

[F5 Dave]

Okay afaik NZ an Aussie only got very limited numbers for homologation only all years were different i think the last were South African.
I never seen one in Yank mag i assumed you never got them, As your rules were pretty free and easy and lenient or Production racing mods.

I think you'll find back when Jason grew up the rules where he was bore a striking resemblance to ours.
But with more Lattes available.

[Grumph]

Ash King is doing the right thing, Spyda. If it was out of the crate and running, it'd have broken the camchains by now.
I've been through one - an RB I think - and they're just like any of that generation of Honda 16V fours, flawed at the design stage.

The one I rebuilt went very well and rode nicely I was told. But yes, it broke.

If you really must have one of that generation of big Hondas, buy a cheap 900 and tweak it. Had one of them through here which had the right bits inserted.
Went like a shower of shit. Owner got shot of it before it broke too...

[HenryDorsetCase]

plonking a CBX750 into a CB750 K1 style running gear.


HEATHEN!

actually the way forward would be to graft the tinware and sidecovers from a 750K onto the CBX - lot less hassle I would think and you would get better brakes and suspension and bigger tyres. The wheels would look weird but maybe you could find some hubs that would work or get some made (Dime City?) to use spokes.

Kind of like what this guy has done - its a kit. If I had $17k lying about propping up an uneven table leg or something I would buy a super tidy actual K1 (or two or three F2's) but I do like this a lot.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1957328648.htm?rsqid=1a7b838b589a4413b2b1684b93588 997

[husaberg]

I think you'll find back when Jason grew up the rules where he was bore a striking resemblance to ours.
But with more Lattes available.

The reason i suggested A while back i posted the Yosh GS1000 modified everything braced frame morris wheels. That's what made me wonder.
Remember how modified rthose Duc's and Beemer Cook Nelson and the other one used to run.
One year one guzzi was ruled out due to having sandcast mag cases.

Jason must be in lock down with the USA under a state of emergency i wonder who is invading them or what hurricane is happening?
I wonder if they offer more cheese with a coffee in the USA yet.

[husaberg]

HEATHEN!

actually the way forward would be to graft the tinware and sidecovers from a 750K onto the CBX - lot less hassle I would think and you would get better brakes and suspension and bigger tyres. The wheels would look weird but maybe you could find some hubs that would work or get some made (Dime City?) to use spokes.

Kind of like what this guy has done - its a kit. If I had $17k lying about propping up an uneven table leg or something I would buy a super tidy actual K1 (or two or three F2's) but I do like this a lot.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1957328648.htm?rsqid=1a7b838b589a4413b2b1684b93588 997

Yip.
Wheels are pretty easy other than the rears if you want disc and spoke.
it would have to be a 4 piper though.
The frame on the CBX is real different to the early stuff though plus the single shock
or maybe not as much as i thought.
http://topsk.com/honda/picture/CBX750F%20RC17.jpg340965
The RC17 isa lot more compact engine than the earlier ones.



Ash King is doing the right thing, Spyda. If it was out of the crate and running, it'd have broken the camchains by now.
I've been through one - an RB I think - and they're just like any of that generation of Honda 16V fours, flawed at the design stage.

The one I rebuilt went very well and rode nicely I was told. But yes, it broke.

If you really must have one of that generation of big Hondas, buy a cheap 900 and tweak it. Had one of them through here which had the right bits inserted.
Went like a shower of shit. Owner got shot of it before it broke too...

I think they gave it a decent camchain adjuster later, still a lot of Chain. Honda were trying a lot of Stuff then. Hardly see a Boladoor now or a CBX750, Must be in cobered in Brown exhaust tape as pis poor looking seats.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Ash King is doing the right thing, Spyda. If it was out of the crate and running, it'd have broken the camchains by now.
I've been through one - an RB I think - and they're just like any of that generation of Honda 16V fours, flawed at the design stage.

The one I rebuilt went very well and rode nicely I was told. But yes, it broke.

If you really must have one of that generation of big Hondas, buy a cheap 900 and tweak it. Had one of them through here which had the right bits inserted.
Went like a shower of shit. Owner got shot of it before it broke too...

Interesting - what sort of issues do they have - cam chain tensioners/cam chains - camshafts made of chocolate? I was sort of thinking about getting one as they are cheap and back in the day I rode one but never owned one - I had Kawasakis which I considered immeasurably superior......

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1956806697.htm?rsqid=91906421ae0b485dbbe209e791edc b1c


oooOOOOhhhhh.

$5k isn't too bad I reckon

[Grumph]

Interesting - what sort of issues do they have - cam chain tensioners/cam chains - camshafts made of chocolate? I was sort of thinking about getting one as they are cheap and back in the day I rode one but never owned one - I had Kawasakis which I considered immeasurably superior......

Camchains....They use two. Long one drives the inlet cam, short one between inlet and exhaust cams. OE tensioner for the main one is crap. Vince Sharp and his mate in Auckland do quite a good top pivoted one as a replacement for the OE. Race developed...But the short chain afaik they still use the OE tensioner.

I've seen (in separate engines) both the long and short chains break. Either means bent valves, damaged guides etc...It's still possible to find a good head and simply swap it on. Cheaper doing it that way until the supply runs out.

The brakes on them badly need upgrading too. They have the typical Honda primary chain too - tensioner on that is crap too.

[jasonu]

Jason must be in lock down with the USA under a state of emergency i wonder who is invading them or what hurricane is happening?
I wonder if they offer more cheese with a coffee in the USA yet.

Enjoy your new CGT and all the other taxes that were promised wouldn't happen...

[husaberg]

Enjoy your new CGT and all the other taxes that were promised wouldn't happen...

Capital gains tax isnt scarcely as it stops property speculation.
NZ has been a tax haven for years.
Property speculation hurts ordinary kiwis.
Regional fuel taxes dont worry me as its about time we stopped paying for Aucklanders being to stupid to take buses and trains.
Imagine New York if everyone decided to drive and own their own cars.
We will see how great the US will be if Trump has another term.

[Voltaire]

Increasing tax of those who get off their arse is not going to improve the lot of those who don't.

CGT won't help those who are renting as there will be less people owning rental property.

I'm just going to have to buy more bikes, art and jewellery as per the report.

[husaberg]

Increasing tax of those who get off their arse is not going to improve the lot of those who don't.

CGT won't help those who are renting as there will be less people owning rental property.

I'm just going to have to buy more bikes, art and jewellery as per the report.

Its an interesting argument but falls down on the reality that CGT is only tabled when an asset is sold.
So its only relevant if the intention of buying a property is to sell it on for a tax free profit.
Simply put the supply and demand became out of kilter due to outside influences. Overseas investors were the ones driving up the price rather than Kiwis buying rentals.
The place where its more healthy to see the investment in the housing market is in the building odf houses and thre redevelopment of properties rather than landbanking houses for short term profit.
One of the reasons NZ has been a great place to live is we are traditionally a country where people own their own house its a great compulsory savings scheme
The reason so many rent is the price had been driven up so fast and so high by property investors it put ownership out of the grasp of most younger people.

[jasonu]

Capital gains tax isnt scarcely as it stops property speculation.
NZ has been a tax haven for years.
Property speculation hurts ordinary kiwis.
Regional fuel taxes dont worry me as its about time we stopped paying for Aucklanders being to stupid to take buses and trains.
Imagine New York if everyone decided to drive and own their own cars.
We will see how great the US will be if Trump has another term.

You are about the only person in the world who is happy to pay more tax.
The CGT report isn't solely aiming at houses either.

[Voltaire]

You are about the only person in the world who is happy to pay more tax.
The CGT report isn't solely aiming at houses either.

Not to mention the Govt keeping tax fair by charging companies like Google and Facebook as whopping 2-3 %.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12204898

[Ocean1]

Increasing tax of those who get off their arse is not going to improve the lot of those who don't.

CGT won't help those who are renting as there will be less people owning rental property.

I'm just going to have to buy more bikes, art and jewellery as per the report.

Aye, the only thing that will help those who don't get off their arse is that they're paid what they earn, same as everyone else.

And fuck you're slow, I've already dumped my residential investments and blown the fucking lot on new toys.

[Ocean1]

Not to mention the Govt keeping tax fair by charging companies like Google and Facebook as whopping 2-3 %.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12204898

You can't expect to be taken seriously with "tax" and "fair" in the same sentence.

Other than that, yes stomping all over centuries old international tax protocols by taxing local sales would hurt NZ exports much, much more than any temporary gains you might make by taxing Amazon for Kindle downloads.

[F5 Dave]

The reason i suggested A while back i posted the Yosh GS1000 modified everything braced frame morris wheels. That's what made me wonder.
Remember how modified rthose Duc's and Beemer Cook Nelson and the other one used to run.
One year one guzzi was ruled out due to having sandcast mag cases.

Jason must be in lock down with the USA under a state of emergency i wonder who is invading them or what hurricane is happening?
I wonder if they offer more cheese with a coffee in the USA yet.
Did those guys race in Auckland huh?

Just trying to leave the same but me flights late.
Heeellpp.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1984828877.htm?rsqid=7a615284fdab48b09c9967e7820a9 441

$15k seems like good buying - and its a good looking bike.

[Voltaire]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1984828877.htm?rsqid=7a615284fdab48b09c9967e7820a9 441

$15k seems like good buying - and its a good looking bike.

I know Andy, hes got a Benelli 6 and a Jota as well.
He raced a SF for a while without much success.

[Paul in NZ]

I know Andy, hes got a Benelli 6 and a Jota as well.
He raced a SF for a while without much success.

I've always compared these to (say) a commando - looks like they are a bit cheaper LOL

[Ginge09]

Yeah, Commando/Combat prices have been growing for the last five or more years. Lovely bikes but not priced well enough to chuck one in the corner of the garage for the odd Sunday ride.

I've been looking for a sensibly priced Brit tourer for five years and the Norton is the obvious choice but they are going for big money for average bikes.

The Laverda would be quicker in a straight line I reckon. Probably happier in the corners as well.

[Paul in NZ]

Yeah, Commando/Combat prices have been growing for the last five or more years. Lovely bikes but not priced well enough to chuck one in the corner of the garage for the odd Sunday ride.

I've been looking for a sensibly priced Brit tourer for five years and the Norton is the obvious choice but they are going for big money for average bikes.

The Laverda would be quicker in a straight line I reckon. Probably happier in the corners as well.

Dunno about that. A good Commando can lift its skirts and hustle....

[Paul in NZ]

Now this is sweet...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1989874523&tm=email&et=47&mt=35FDB83D-4CFC-41F4-A5B8-32C27914248F

[Paul in NZ]

Understatement of the year...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1989908885&tm=email&et=47&mt=35FDB83D-4CFC-41F4-A5B8-32C27914248F

'Could benefit from cosmetics'...

Well patina is currently 'in' but maybe there is a limit...

[Voltaire]

Put a new TT100 on the Commando, got a WOF and did 120mile trip around the Warkworth/Helensville area on Sunday.
I did some adjustments on the Lansdowne compression and rebound settings and ride is great.
Bloke at the cafe had a very very nice Kawasaki 750.

341318

[F5 Dave]

Now this is sweet...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1989874523&tm=email&et=47&mt=35FDB83D-4CFC-41F4-A5B8-32C27914248F

That is Super cute.

[Voltaire]

The Manx Norton you always wanted.
341351
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1993028127.htm?rsqid=d3ded6c5f40a45cbbf278825224f1 4fa

or perhaps a V Twin is more Sirs style.
341352
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1990799000.htm?rsqid=d3ded6c5f40a45cbbf278825224f1 4fa

[jellywrestler]

The Manx Norton you always wanted.
341351
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1993028127.htm?rsqid=d3ded6c5f40a45cbbf278825224f1 4fa

or perhaps a V Twin is more Sirs style.
341352
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1990799000.htm?rsqid=d3ded6c5f40a45cbbf278825224f1 4fa

unit construction, tough fix needed on the crankcase....

[AllanB]

Understatement of the year...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1989908885&tm=email&et=47&mt=35FDB83D-4CFC-41F4-A5B8-32C27914248F

'Could benefit from cosmetics'...

Well patina is currently 'in' but maybe there is a limit...

It's very cool. I'd leave it looking rough.