Short & sweet summary of the hypocrisy of Syrian situation

[flyingcrocodile46]

The US/Nato/Saudi cunts are being drowned in their own lies.

Watch and learn. Not a single lie or miss truth said in this video (except for those told by the US and which are quoted in the video). It is so blatantly obvious what they are up to that it is fucking shameful how the rest of the world (the politicians who are supposed to represent their people) are silent.

Anyone who still can't (or more accurately 'still won't) see what is going on is a willful accessory to mass murder that the US have been committing for the last 20+ years. They are fucking poison.



https://youtu.be/W3ZLYUvAZvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ZLYUvAZvs&feature=youtu.be

[scrivy]

Oh gee..... I wonder if the UN will smack the big US's hand????

Those deceitful US cunts should be tried for war crimes. Period.

WMD, LOL!!
killing 500,000+ Iraqi civilians,
Afghanistan,
Somalia,
Sudan,
Libya,
Yemen,
Nicaragua,
Eygpt,
Ukraine,

How'd those countries all end up???

Syria? When exactly did Assad ask for the US to liberate them from terrorists???? So again violating UN laws of engagement in a sovereign country. Putin was actually asked by Assad..... but the US say Russia is agressive..... FFS...

The world is waking up to the realism that the US are a pack of war mongers....

The US will surely loose face worldwide for their actions.

[oldrider]

This thread "should" be interesting! (but wait for it) :rolleyes:

[TheDemonLord]

Me: Contradictory Opinion!

(10 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Youtube Link to 'REAL' News!

(another 10 pages)

Me: Disparaging Rebuttal!

(40 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Ad Hominems and accusations of Sheeple!

(2 pages of posts)

Akzle: Something about the Jews

(heaps of Jew pages)

Me: Evidence!

(40 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Deny the evidence as part of the conspiracy or question the source!

(10 Pages)

Yokel: Stupidity!

(fucking heaps of pages)

Me: More Evidence!

(20 pages)

Conspiracy theorists: Ignore evidence and move onto different part of the theory!


(or at least something like that)
:bleh::bleh::bleh:

[scrivy]

Me: Contradictory Opinion!

(10 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Youtube Link to 'REAL' News!

(another 10 pages)

Me: Disparaging Rebuttal!

(40 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Ad Hominems and accusations of Sheeple!

(2 pages of posts)

Akzle: Something about the Jews

(heaps of Jew pages)

Me: Evidence!

(40 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Deny the evidence as part of the conspiracy or question the source!

(10 Pages)

Yokel: Stupidity!

(fucking heaps of pages)

Me: More Evidence!

(20 pages)

Conspiracy theorists: Ignore evidence and move onto different part of the theory!


(or at least something like that)
:bleh::bleh::bleh:

I'm a bit confused....

Do you want a cuddle or a blow job??:crazy:

[TheDemonLord]

I'm a bit confused....

Do you want a cuddle or a blow job??:crazy:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/aoz8kgx8pzknypz7z38n.jpg

[oldrider]

You mean this sort of BS from US? https://www.rt.com/news/318059-russia-syria-ccn-iran-missiles/

[jasonu]

Me: Contradictory Opinion!

(10 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Youtube Link to 'REAL' News!

(another 10 pages)

Me: Disparaging Rebuttal!

(40 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Ad Hominems and accusations of Sheeple!

(2 pages of posts)

Akzle: Something about the Jews

(heaps of Jew pages)

Me: Evidence!

(40 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Deny the evidence as part of the conspiracy or question the source!

(10 Pages)

Yokel: Stupidity!

(fucking heaps of pages)

Me: More Evidence!

(20 pages)

Conspiracy theorists: Ignore evidence and move onto different part of the theory!


(or at least something like that)
:bleh::bleh::bleh:

Good summation but you forgot Katman calling people stupid and not actually answering questions put to him and numerous links to hokey pokey news outlets that support his argument.

[Katman]

....but you forgot Katman calling people stupid....

If the cap fits......

[oldrider]

And British BS http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34479873

[Swoop]

Katman ... not answering questions put to him.


If the cap fits......

Seems legit.

[R650R]

Agree with thread title and post links showing the Russians kicking ass

Them: nek minnit paid bloggers post that Russia dropping dumb bombs on civilian shielded targets.

Me: post links showing Russian bombers using smart weapons with state of the art control centres, news devoid of any civilian casualties even in western media....

Them: start a whole nother thread to distract the argument....

Me: keep posting reality in new thread.

Them: Paid pro Israeli and American lobbysist bloggers show up name calling and just deny everything like it never happened.

Me: gets a life but keeps posting reality.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Me: Contradictory Opinion!

(10 pages of posts)

Conspiracy theorists: Youtube Link to 'REAL' News!

(another 10 pages)

Me: Preserving the illusion of an orderly honest world by squeezing my eyes tightly shut against reality and loudly squawking "conspiracy alert, conspiracy alert" because I'm too scared or retarded to realise that the spin on world news that I think is real, is really the biggest conspiracy of them all.

(or at least something like that)
:bleh::bleh::bleh:

Don't forget to put your fingers in your ears too.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Now we are going to see some real progress in the fight against ICIAL and the AL CIADA spawned El Nursra instead of make believe bombing attacks by their creators.

Syrian soldiers reinvigorated by aid from Russia, Iran & China are intensifying the fight to protect and take back their country from the foreign mercenaries and SAS who are masquerading as ICIAL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYAeegjhQWM

This is going to be very interesting. As usual, Putin has played this very well by letting the real bad guys shoot their own feet off (admitting that there is no longer a "Free Syria Army" and that there were really only a half a dozen "moderate rebels" whom they have trained and armed) before making his move.... by stepping in and attacking a stated and declared enemy of the world (an enemy who half of the worlds rowdiest politicians are already actively at war with:rolleyes:).
He becomes the good guy..

Best of all, the lying fools set the stage for him, by pumping up the rhetoric and demonisation of their own creation, making it more difficult to be openly angry with him. Lol.

The world has watched the real aggressors flail away ineffectually as they pretend to fight their own mercenary creation. Much of the world is scratching their heads in incredulity at the ineffectiveness of the US rhetoric and fake actions and slowly coming to the realisation that what they are seeing is a great big real life conspiracy (and that all those conspiracy theorists were right all along).:yes:

[yokel]

oh no the Russians were in Turkish air space!
what about that Afghan hospital you guys bombed?

stupid fucks


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/08/russia-pay-price-syrian-airstrikes-ashton-carter-us-defence-secretary?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

[flyingcrocodile46]

Who created ICIAL ?

Putin lays it bare for the world to see, 'at a united nations press conference' no less.

No punches were pulled. There is no longer any excuse to continue the illusion. The real rulers of the world (and their political puppets) are as deceitful and untrustworthy now, as any period in our history. They have just gotten a lot better at fooling the sheep that they lead to the slaughter.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI

Muslim extremism. The fire fanned by the CIA and saudi arabia in the middle east, USSR and russia since the 70's and more recently in china.

If you keep shitting in other peoples yards, sooner or latter someone is gonna come along and shove it back at ya.

[Voltaire]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/83046000/jpg/_83046761_83046760.jpg

Scored a few goals too. Better than the bowling club.

[TheDemonLord]

Don't forget to put your fingers in your ears too.

I give your troll attempt a 2/10

Needs supporting evidence :msn-wink:

[flyingcrocodile46]

I give your troll attempt a 2/10

Needs supporting evidence :msn-wink:

Your chin needs a wipe too, but I ain't doing that for you either.

Some things you need to do for yourself or there is much less value in them. Opening your eyes would be a good start.

[TheDemonLord]

Your chin needs a wipe too, but I ain't doing that for you either.

Some things you need to do for yourself or there is much less value in them. Opening your eyes would be a good start.

My eyes are open - that's why I can see you are full of shit (and haven't posted any supporting evidence)

[Tazz]

I give your troll attempt a 2/10

Needs supporting evidence :msn-wink:

Could just get CNN to whip something up =)

[TheDemonLord]

Could just get CNN to whip something up =)

Tides go in, Tides go out - you can't explain that!

[Brian d marge]

Scored a few goals too. Better than the bowling club.
Yup thats who u want for prez

He was very clear in his un speach

And IF its true its brilliant

Knowing isis is a us creation . . .
Work with assad . . .and get the job done

Now watch the us gum flappers go into over drive

Haarr haar haar go the Ruskies


Oh gee..... I wonder if the UN will smack the big US's hand????

Those deceitful US cunts should be tried for war crimes. Period.

WMD, LOL!!
killing 500,000+ Iraqi civilians,
Afghanistan,
Somalia,
Sudan,
Libya,
Yemen,
Nicaragua,
Eygpt,
Ukraine,

How'd those countries all end up???

Syria? When exactly did Assad ask for the US to liberate them from terrorists???? So again violating UN laws of engagement in a sovereign country. Putin was actually asked by Assad..... but the US say Russia is agressive..... FFS...

The world is waking up to the realism that the US are a pack of war mongers....

The US will surely loose face worldwide for their actions.


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[flyingcrocodile46]

My eyes are open - that's why I can see you are full of shit (and haven't posted any supporting evidence)

Squawk, 'where's your evidence' where's you evidence'. Christ! I have been through this many times. Idjits like yourself are full of questions when confronted by truth that they want to deny, yet never think to question the lies that they are comfortable with. It's just a time wasting exercise in futility to engage when the questioner (by his tone) is obviously just a wanker. I help people who are prepared to help themselves. You haven't even tried.

As you're big on denying truth until it is evidenced as fact (not withstanding your apparent hypocrisy in accepting as truth, the non-factual alternative conspiracy that is spun by your puppet leaders who shouldn't be), why don't you run along and find some evidence to disprove the statements made in the first video. Real evidence mind you, not some hokey bullshit statement of claimed fact that lacks any real basis in facts to support it. In case you are having trouble understanding what that means, it means that you can't quote the entirely baseless bullshit that your ilk so readily hoover up.

If that is too hard for you, go and find some real evidence that support the lies that you so readily swallow? If the shit you believe to be really true is really true, you won't have any trouble with that eh! :lol:

My 'Put up or shut up' challenge to you, is to either present;
(A) real evidence that the first video statements are lies, or
(B) real evidence that supports the significant majority of the contrary scenario spun by main stream media.
Then all those who witness your failure to present evidence will know who is full of shit eh!

No! don't be a ball less weasel and try to slither out of the challenge by feigning a low IQ and simply quoting news articles/headlines that don't contain actual evidence to support their claims (the type that you have already clearly rejected). As that would be the hypocritical action of a flacid cock with a bull horn.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Tides go in, Tides go out - you can't explain that!

That's because they go up and down.

[Katman]

No! don't be a ball less weasel and try to slither out of the challenge by feigning a low IQ......

Dude, this is TheDemonLord you're talking about.

He's told us numerous times how he's convinced he's MENSA material.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Dude, this is TheDemonLord you're talking about.

He's told us numerous times how he's convinced he's MENSA material.

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry, have to spread the rep.

[flyingcrocodile46]

The mericans have announced the failure and cancellation of their $500million training program that was supposed to build an army of 5000 to 12000 syrian rebels to fight against ICIAL.

Under questioning at a senate hearing General Loydd Austin reluctantly confirmed that it had resulted in a fighting force numbering only 5 :facepalm:

However, that appears to be 5 more than the now non-existent 'Free Syria Army', and they must be fucking good fighters at $100million apiece:laugh:

You have to :laugh::laugh::laugh: as it was never going to succeed. They don't want to fight ICIAL because they are ICIAL. Just like they are Al CIAda. Using mercenaries to fight unpopular wars ain't a new idea. It's been the way of tyrants for thousands of years.

All the money, training, weapons and Toyota's previously supplied were invested in growing the Al CIAda & ICIAL army to overthrow assad. It seems that when world opinion stopped the mericans from formally declaring war against assad and made them cut back on the expanding weapons supply to ICIAL, they had to resort to a new plan to arm them up. Hence the rapid and unrestricted invasion of iraq to collect the back up weapons that were conveniently abandoned and unguarded :rolleyes:. (I guess they must have already gone through much of the missing $500million worth of weapons from afghanistan and the surplus from the lybian regime change and really needed a good top up)

They ain't really going to attack and kill their own army. But the russkies will :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[yokel]

Vladimir Putin is the man.

Secret evidence? Nice one puppet Obama.

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[puddytat]

Shame we signed a trade deal with the U.S....no doubt that somewhere in the "secret bits" is the part that says we are owned by them & cant say or do anything against them....
No doubt tidying up the bits & pieces that previous treaties weren't able to cover.


The only way to fix it is to flush them all away.

[scumdog]

Yep, this thread will fix all that's wrong with the world....just like KB threads always do..

[Brian d marge]

Shame we signed a trade deal with the U.S....no doubt that somewhere in the "secret bits" is the part that says we are owned by them & cant say or do anything against them....
No doubt tidying up the bits & pieces that previous treaties weren't able to cover.


The only way to fix it is to flush them all away.
Didnt the dairy industry do a deal with russia years back
We sent them butter

They sent Ladas

Not sure who had the best deal

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[scumdog]

Didnt the dairy industry do a deal with russia years back
We sent them butter

They sent Ladas

Not sure who had the best deal

Sent from my SC-01G using Tapatalk

Hmm, I'm not sure they sent enough Ladas....:(

[Brian d marge]

Ladas not ladies

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[TheDemonLord]

Squawk, 'where's your evidence' where's you evidence'. Christ! I have been through this many times.

Then it should be easy to post it up.....


Idjits like yourself

Ad Hominems - Your Arguments must be so logical, with rock solid evidence


are full of questions when confronted by truth that they want to deny, yet never think to question the lies that they are comfortable with. It's just a time wasting exercise in futility to engage when the questioner (by his tone) is obviously just a wanker. I help people who are prepared to help themselves. You haven't even tried.

Okay - there is so many things wrong with this statement.

Firstly - a complete and profound misunderstanding of the basic principle of Skepticism. The Skeptic asks to see the evidence for ANY Claim - if the evidence is strong, the claim is accepted as the most probably truth, if the evidence is weak (but no disproving evidence is presented) then the Claim is worthy of further investigation, If the evidence is false, the claim is rejected.

There is no prejudice or preferential treatment - only a requirement for the evidence to be presented.

Next, the statement assumes that the so called 'lies' are neither questioned or are accepted at face value - again, as per above, any positive claim requires evidence, it also assumes that I have declared an opinion or position on this topic (of which I have done neither) and that the opinion or position is contrary to your own - again, I may have satirised how threads such as these go (and so far you are playing the conspiracy role to a T) - you bit, and I retorted with a request for evidence - of which you have provided none.

You then fall back to what seems to be the Conspiracy theorist school of debate - when challenged to submit your evidence, to hurl insults and suggest that people find it themselves, without reading further, I would wager you will try and shift the burden of proof later on.

This immediately raises the red flag - should your original claim be robust, rather than resorting to name calling etc. you would simply post up your evidence.


As you're big on denying truth until it is evidenced as fact (not withstanding your apparent hypocrisy in accepting as truth, the non-factual alternative conspiracy that is spun by your puppet leaders who shouldn't be), why don't you run along and find some evidence to disprove the statements made in the first video. Real evidence mind you, not some hokey bullshit statement of claimed fact that lacks any real basis in facts to support it. In case you are having trouble understanding what that means, it means that you can't quote the entirely baseless bullshit that your ilk so readily hoover up.

BINGO! Attempts to shift the burden of proof! Again - in this thread I have made no claims or opinions on the subject matter at hand - merely that you (who in your OP DID make a statement) have followed the same pattern that seems to be taught at the Conspiracy School for Sheeple - post up a video and tell people to go look for the evidence to support your view.

This is not how it works - you are making the positive claim, therefore the onus is on you to provide the evidence to back your claim - I am merely stating that since you have dodged the request for evidence and thrown insults - then it is most likely that you are full of shit - and so on that basis: That which is submitted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence.

As for your last couple of sentences - this really does show the conviction of faith of the conspiracy theorist - like the New earth christian - clamoring for evidence to disprove his faith, then dismissing it all because it isn't what it says in the bible.


If that is too hard for you, go and find some real evidence that support the lies that you so readily swallow? If the shit you believe to be really true is really true, you won't have any trouble with that eh! :lol:

Again - you seem to think I have made a statement or declared an opinion on this subject - re-read my posts, I have not. I have however formed an opinion of you - based on the evidence of the contents of what you yourself post.

To use an Analogy - suppose I believe in the likely probability of Alien live in the Universe on the basis of a statistical probability given the billions of stars across thousands of galaxies. You then say that Aliens are real - I would demand to see proof of such a claim (Skepticism) - if you fail to submit any proof, then I may dismiss your claim that Aliens are real, whilst still retaining the possibility of Aliens being real.

Where you are confused - is you seem to think that by merely saying 'you are full of shit' - I am trying to supplant your claims with a competing theory - in which case, I would not only need to refute your original claim, then I would need to submit evidence for my own positive claim. But since I am not championing any alternative, merely stating that in failing to submit evidence, your claim can be dismissed - and thus there is no burden of proof for me to 'go find some real evidence' - because I am not making a claim, and as above, the religious fervor and zealotry displayed in this post confirms my initial suspicion - any proof submitted that disproves you would be dismissed as 'part of the conspiracy'.


My 'Put up or shut up' challenge to you, is to either present;
(A) real evidence that the first video statements are lies, or
(B) real evidence that supports the significant majority of the contrary scenario spun by main stream media.
Then all those who witness your failure to present evidence will know who is full of shit eh!

Again - you seem to think I have made a claim or submitted an opinion on this subject - I have not, I have merely said that by your own reluctance to submit evidence for YOUR claims, that YOU are full of shit (all those attempts at shifting the burden of proof doesn't work when I am not proposing an alternative theorem, merely a refutation of a theorem submitted without evidence.


No! don't be a ball less weasel and try to slither out of the challenge by feigning a low IQ and simply quoting news articles/headlines that don't contain actual evidence to support their claims (the type that you have already clearly rejected). As that would be the hypocritical action of a flacid cock with a bull horn.

There is no challenge, unless you want to post up evidence to back your claims up first, I have nothing to refute - but as above, your post confirmed my opinion of you - if you wish to debate that, then by all means: You are every bit the mirror image of those you mock with derision - your absolute faith in the conspiracy narrative and your prejudicing of any evidence that disagrees with your ideas before it has been posted shows you to be one of the blind sheeple you despise.

[TheDemonLord]

Dude, this is TheDemonLord you're talking about.

He's told us numerous times how he's convinced he's MENSA material.

Since you asked for proof:

316491

https://www.mensa.org/workout

Edit:

To Clarify - that was on the first run through, but I did have to scribble on some paper to get the anagram questions right (words were always my weaker subject)

[jasonu]

Didnt the dairy industry do a deal with russia years back
We sent them butter

They sent Ladas

Not sure who had the best deal

Sent from my SC-01G using Tapatalk

Yep that's right.
There was an item on Fair Go about it. Folks were complaining their 'new' Ladas were falling apart as they drove them of the sales lot. Turned out the Ladas sat on the docks (Tauranga I think) in the hot sun for several years before being sold as new cars and things like paint, dash boards and parcel trays had rotted out.

[Katman]

Since you asked for proof:

316491


And there we have a perfect example of your complete lack of understanding of what constitutes 'proof'.

(And an equally perfect example of your child-like insecurity).

[Madness]

Yep that's right.
There was an item on Fair Go about it. Folks were complaining their 'new' Ladas were falling apart as they drove them of the sales lot. Turned out the Ladas sat on the docks (Tauranga I think) in the hot sun for several years before being sold as new cars and things like paint, dash boards and parcel trays had rotted out.

Seaview, Lower Hutt. There were hundreds of 'em and they were coated in CRC Soft Seal or something similar to try & keep the Cook Strait salt air at bay, quite unsuccessfully.

[buggerit]

Since you asked for proof:

316491

https://www.mensa.org/workout

Edit:

To Clarify - that was on the first run through, but I did have to scribble on some paper to get the anagram questions right (words were always my weaker subject)

So, have you worked out how to remove and replace the rear wheel on your bike without fucking it up yet, you being an engineer and all.:lol:

[TheDemonLord]

And there we have a perfect example of your complete lack of understanding of what constitutes 'proof'.

(And an equally perfect example of your child-like insecurity).

Oh I forgot, I'm dealing with you - it wasnt posted on a conspiracy theorist website and doesnt agree with your beliefs therefore isn't proof.

And you can try and claim insecurity, but you accussed me of lieing about being smart enough to join MENSA - so I took the test on their site and screenshotted the results to back up my claim.

Why dont you post up your results eh, Katman? Your always quick to call me shit for Brains - so you should be able to get a consistent 100%....

Or maybe you took it and realised you arent as smart as you think you are and embarressingly for you, not as smart as me, Shit for brains

[Madness]

So, have you worked out how to remove and replace the rear wheel on your bike without fucking it up yet, you being an engineer and all.:lol:

I think he's just another I.T fuckwit, hardly what I'd call an Engineer.

[TheDemonLord]

So, have you worked out how to remove and replace the rear wheel on your bike without fucking it up yet, you being an engineer and all.:lol:

Yes, although I am a little confused - can you quote me where I claimed to be an engineer?

It speaks volumes about someone who makes a mistake (doing something for the first time) and asks for help, listens to the advice and rectifies his mistake and learns from it.

It also speaks volumes about those who would attempt to belittle someone for making a mistake once for something they hadn't done before - Tell me, where you born with all the skills and knowledge in your life or did you make mistakes and ask for help? If the latter, why then attempt to criticize someone else for doing the same?

[TheDemonLord]

I think he's just another I.T fuckwit, hardly what I'd call an Engineer.

Again - please cite where I referred to myself as an Engineer.

And its interesting that you would insult IT professionals - on a Website (run by IT professionals) on the internet (also run by IT professionals) using a computer (Designed by IT professionals) using an operating system (written by IT professionals).

Me thinks the Fox is calling the grapes sour....

[Madness]

Again - please cite where I referred to myself as an Engineer.

And its interesting that you would insult IT professionals - on a Website (run by IT professionals) on the internet (also run by IT professionals) using a computer (Designed by IT professionals) using an operating system (written by IT professionals).

Me thinks the Fox is calling the grapes sour....

I think you're confused again. I wasn't insulting all I.T professionals at all, just stating the fact that you're in I.T and also a fuckwit.

[flyingcrocodile46]

.
Holy shit! That's a whole lot of insecurity there boyo. The splatter of irony and obfuscation was indeed far and wide.

Wouldn't it have simply been easier to admit that it's equally difficult (i.e near on impossible) to find real evidence to back up the conspiracies fed to you by the MSM as it is to do the same for the alternative views that you disagree with???? No? That's because you're a mindless twat. :lol:

[TheDemonLord]

I think you're confused again. I wasn't insulting all I.T professionals at all, just stating the fact that you're in I.T and also a fuckwit.

No, no confusion, but I suspect they haven't covered basic English skills at kindergarten for you yet, Best stick to finger painting and eating sand eh, Madness?

[Madness]

No, no confusion, but I suspect they haven't covered basic English skills at kindergarten for you yet, Best stick to finger painting and eating sand eh, Madness?

Funny, I'm sure it was you that said "words wasn't your best subject"

Maybe you might want to stick to asking an Internet forum for advice on how to re-assemble something you've just taken apart. Because, you know how many volumes that speaks to what a fuckwit you are, eh?

[TheDemonLord]

Holy shit! That's a whole lot of insecurity there boyo. The splatter of irony and obfuscation was indeed far and wide.

Those words - they do not mean what you are trying to make them mean....

I see however you haven't bothered to address the point of my post - and that is an error on my part, to think that you would want to engage in any form of logical or rational debate. It seems I am suffering amnesia in this thread and forget that Conspiracy theorists aren't bound by things such as evidence, reason or logic.


Wouldn't it have simply been easier to admit that it's equally difficult (i.e near on impossible) to find real evidence to back up the conspiracies fed to you by the MSM as it is to do the same for the alternative views that you disagree with???? No? That's because you're a mindless twat. :lol:

No - it wouldn't - you seem to have created this false dichotomy that if you don't whole heartedly believe in the conspiracy theory then you must whole heartedly believe in the MSM. I will spell it out - on this subject I am on neither side - I have not reviewed all the evidence available to me to form an opinion, whether it be the MSM side, the Conspiracy side or neither of them (which is the more likely result)

In this case - you present a claim and when challenged for proof of it start throwing insults and attempting to shift the burden of proof and then setup a strawman and attempt to knock it down. This in of itself tells me that whatever it is you are claiming is most likely complete shit - if it wasn't, you wouldn't need to throw insults or shift the burden of proof or setup strawmen, you would just present your evidence.

[TheDemonLord]

Funny, I'm sure it was you that said "words wasn't your best subject"

They aren't, but when dealing with intellect of your 'caliber' (and yes, that is sarcasm btw), me at my worst is more than sufficient.


Maybe you might want to stick to asking an Internet forum for advice on how to re-assemble something you've just taken apart. Because, you know how many volumes that speaks to what a fuckwit you are, eh?

Again - where you born with all the skills and Knowledge you now possess (in your case, I would be willing to make an exception) or did you learn new things and ask for advice?

[Madness]

Again - where you born with all the skills and Knowledge you now possess (in your case, I would be willing to make an exception) or did you learn new things and ask for advice?

Do you mean were?

Although I myself don't proclaim to be MENSA material, I've never had to resort to asking strangers how to put the wheel that I just took off my motorcycle back on again. It's not that I think I'm better or more intelligent than you, it's that you come across as believing that you're better and more intelligent than everybody else and in my book, that makes you a fuckwit that deserves a good old fashioned stabbing.

[TheDemonLord]

Although I myself don't proclaim to be MENSA material, I've never had to resort to asking strangers how to put the wheel that I just took off my motorcycle back on again.

So - you ever had to ask help from people to do something that you have never done before? Cause if you say no - I'm going to call you a blatant liar.


It's not that I think I'm better or more intelligent than you, it's that you come across as believing that you're better and more intelligent than everybody else

Everyone else? No. But certainly people who have to resort to insults every time they can't justify their faith based beliefs or people who refuse to acknowledge independent evidence when it dispells their beliefs.


and in my book, that makes you a fuckwit that deserves a good old fashioned stabbing.

Ooooooo physical threats of violence on the internet - You must be such a tough guy.

[Madness]

So - you ever had to ask help from people to do something that you have never done before? Cause if you say no - I'm going to call you a blatant liar.

Of course I've needed help from others, as does anybody through the course of their life. The point being made is the irony around you on the one hand pronouncing yourself to be MENSA material, yet you seem incapable of assembling something that you yourself disassembled. Something as simple as a wheel.

Your clear inability to see the irony of this speaks volumes about how far your head is up your own arse.

John Key deserves a good old fashioned rooting in the bum. This doesn't mean I'm going to fuck him though, I can assure you.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Those words - they do not mean what you are trying to make them mean....

Comprehension difficulties? That's why I don't waste time entering into meaningful discussions with fuckwits (idjits who are predisposed to selective comprehension and distorted interpretation).

Here! I'll make it easier for you by rephrasing. 'Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft'.

Do you now understand what I am communicating to you?

[TheDemonLord]

Comprehension difficulties? That's why I don't waste time entering into meaningful discussions with fuckwits (idjits who are predisposed to selective comprehension and distorted interpretation).

Here! I'll make it easier for you by rephrasing. 'Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft'.

Do you now understand what I am communicating to you?

I sure do - you are communicating that you are full of shit and have no evidence to back up your retarded ideas - thanks for proving my initial suspicion.

[TheDemonLord]

Of course I've needed help from others, as does anybody through the course of their life. The point being made is the irony around you on the one hand pronouncing yourself to be MENSA material,

Riiiiiight - so MENSA candidates can't ask for help - got it. I'll be sure to let them know. Like how Peter Higgs didn't need to ask for help (from the entire team at the LHC) to prove the existence of the Higgs Boson....


yet you seem incapable of assembling something that you yourself disassembled. Something as simple as a wheel.

Considering I not only disassembled it and eventually re-assembled it correctly (and have re-done it after that when I got a puncture), I would say that it proves I am capable - I would also it shows that I am capable of making Mistakes AND admitting to them. However I do like your strawman attempt there - inferring that I was disassembling a wheel - it was not the wheel that was the problem...


Your clear inability to see the irony of this speaks volumes about how far your head is up your own arse.

The fact that I know when I have exceeded the current limits of my knowledge and skill and can ask for help would actually (ironically) disprove your notion that my head is up my arse - afterall, if I thought myself infallible (as you seem desperate to try and claim) then why would I ask for help? Afterall if I was infallible I would have put it back together correctly and wouldn't have needed help.


John Key deserves a good old fashioned rooting in the bum. This doesn't mean I'm going to fuck him though, I can assure you.

I wouldn't be so sure in your case....

[bogan]

Although I myself don't proclaim to be MENSA material

Are they still a thing? I thought natural section nailed those fuckers?

[Madness]

as you seem desperate to try and claim...

I'm not desperate about anything, particularly anything pertaining to you. The facts are that in my opinion and that of many others you're a fuckwit and as you've confirmed, you work in I.T. Through the help of others, including strangers on the internet, you now have your wheel back on correctly and the proverbial wheels of life continue to turn. I'm going for a ride and you'll be nowhere near where I'm going so all in all it's a fabulous day and you're still a fuckwit.


Are they still a thing?

Don't ask me, ask your boyfriend the MENSA prospect.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm not desperate about anything, particularly anything pertaining to you. The facts are that in my opinion and that of many others you're a fuckwit and as you've confirmed, you work in I.T.

Then why so passionate about it? Your actions betray your words.

As for the Many others - Argumentum ad Populum - You'll need to do better than that.


Don't ask me, ask your boyfriend the MENSA prospect.

You seem to be obsessed with Homosexuality, do you now see what I mean about John Key should be worried...

[TheDemonLord]

Are they still a thing? I thought natural section nailed those fuckers?

No, we still have Telephone sanitisers

[bogan]

No, we still have Telephone sanitisers

Yeh, but you can't procreate through an 0900 number...

[buggerit]

Yes, although I am a little confused - can you quote me where I claimed to be an engineer?

It speaks volumes about someone who makes a mistake (doing something for the first time) and asks for help, listens to the advice and rectifies his mistake and learns from it.

It also speaks volumes about those who would attempt to belittle someone for making a mistake once for something they hadn't done before - Tell me, where you born with all the skills and knowledge in your life or did you make mistakes and ask for help? If the latter, why then attempt to criticize someone else for doing the same?

Sorry, just assumed someone of your intelligence could work out how to remove and install something as simple as a rear wheel.
Give us a yell next time, my 10yr old niece lives not far from you, im sure she wouldn't mind giving you a hand.
Also, sorry to all the engineers out there, my bad.

[bogan]

Also, sorry to all the engineers out there, my bad.

Don't sweat it, its a broad term which only got more confusing when we stole it from the fitters and turners etc...

Oh, and mechanical sypmathy/aptitude is not strongly correlated with intelligence; I mean how do you think KM still has a job as a spannerist :bleh:

[Katman]

Oh, and mechanical sypmathy/aptitude is not strongly correlated with intelligence; I mean how do you think KM still has a job as a spannerist :bleh:

Thank goodness for my good looks and irrepressible charm.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Then why so passionate about it? Your actions betray your words.

It's that comprehension thing getting in the way again, isn't it?

You appear to be either too stupid or dishonest to avoid misinterpreting his amusing himself (at your expense), with something completely nonsensical that you can use to launch yourself into another series of underwhelming pirouettes of meaningless drivel.

Well done you. No wonder you are so popular.

[oldrider]

US Presidential candidate Ted Cruz speaks wise words on Syria!

Ted Cruz: How U.S. must push back Putin in Syria
Tags:

POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION SYRIA

Enough already. We don't need a reset. We need a reality check.

Putin has been unmoved by the Obama administration's threats of isolation on the international stage, and economic sanctions have on their own been no deterrent to his opportunistic behavior. More of the same will not result in success.

Well, Ted, if you really feel that way; here's your rifle, and here's your parachute. Watch your head climbing into that transport plane and we will call Moscow and tell Putin you are on your way to kick his butt all by yourself. Meanwhile, I would like to remind you that Syria's government ASKED Russia to come in and help get rid of the terrorists. Syria's government did NOT ask the United States to come in and bomb the place to rubble. Lacking a United Nations mandate, any intervention into any country is a violation of international law and the United Nations charter. The United States is the aggressor, your empty bravado notwithstanding.

I don't think Ted has made any "personal" travel arrangements for Syria yet! - :wait:

[Brian d marge]

US Presidential candidate Ted Cruz speaks wise words on Syria!

Ted Cruz: How U.S. must push back Putin in Syria
Tags:

POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION SYRIA

Enough already. We don't need a reset. We need a reality check.

Putin has been unmoved by the Obama administration's threats of isolation on the international stage, and economic sanctions have on their own been no deterrent to his opportunistic behavior. More of the same will not result in success.

Well, Ted, if you really feel that way; here's your rifle, and here's your parachute. Watch your head climbing into that transport plane and we will call Moscow and tell Putin you are on your way to kick his butt all by yourself. Meanwhile, I would like to remind you that Syria's government ASKED Russia to come in and help get rid of the terrorists. Syria's government did NOT ask the United States to come in and bomb the place to rubble. Lacking a United Nations mandate, any intervention into any country is a violation of international law and the United Nations charter. The United States is the aggressor, your empty bravado notwithstanding.

I don't think Ted has made any "personal" travel arrangements for Syria yet! - :wait:
Hey hes going to be the nxt prez

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[TheDemonLord]

It's that comprehension thing getting in the way again, isn't it?

You appear to be either too stupid or dishonest to avoid misinterpreting his amusing himself (at your expense), with something completely nonsensical that you can use to launch yourself into another series of underwhelming pirouettes of meaningless drivel.

Well done you. No wonder you are so popular.

Or could it be that I've seen this from Madness before - and things such as Red Repping, sending PM full of mindless abuse and going into threads just to hurl abuse - you can believe its amusement if you wish, but as I retorted - the effort betrays his words.

And as for being popular - do you know who wins popularity contests?


Idiots.

So I'm happy not to be popular.

[Brian d marge]

And British BS http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34479873
Trouble is

When made to look stupid they start throwing stones

And the bbc will have to check with israel in order to put the best possible spin on it

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[jasonu]

Hey hes going to be the nxt prez

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No he's not. He won't even be the Republican presidential candidate.

[Brian d marge]

Of course he will . . .he has enough coke to sink a battleship

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[Brian d marge]

Anyway finally the real news
https://youtu.be/Syjp9lsWBhc


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[oldrider]

Anyway finally the real news
https://youtu.be/Syjp9lsWBhc

:wings: That was bloody hilarious! :killingme

[Brian d marge]

See stuff.co.baaa never said a word about pigs

Britain is having a field day . Oink

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[Swivel]

Oh gee..... I wonder if the UN will smack the big US's hand????

Those deceitful US cunts should be tried for war crimes. Period.

WMD, LOL!!
killing 500,000+ Iraqi civilians,
Afghanistan,
Somalia,
Sudan,
Libya,
Yemen,
Nicaragua,
Eygpt,
Ukraine,

How'd those countries all end up???

Syria? When exactly did Assad ask for the US to liberate them from terrorists???? So again violating UN laws of engagement in a sovereign country. Putin was actually asked by Assad..... but the US say Russia is agressive..... FFS...

The world is waking up to the realism that the US are a pack of war mongers....

The US will surely loose face worldwide for their actions.

Well said. 100% agree.

[Swoop]

11 October 2015: The Russian air support for the Syrian government forces has been effective, mainly because the Russians don’t care if civilians are in the way and get hurt.
This is just as well because a lot of the Russian bombs are unguided.

Russia does have GPS and laser guided bombs but not a lot of them. There are also many targets that can be destroyed just as easily with dumb bombs, especially if you are not concerned about dead civilians. The Russians are apparently shipping in thousands of unguided aircraft bombs, most (if not all) of them dating back to the Cold War (that ended in 1991). Syria, however is still using locally fabricated bombs and will probably continue to as Syrian helicopters are not equipped to drop aerial bombs. With Russian help the Syrian helicopter force will now increase but helicopters often make effective bombers.

Since 2012 the Syrians have been dropping barrels filled with flammable liquids and explosives, rigged to explode when they hit the ground. This sort of thing is not unique to Syria and has been seen for years in Sudan where the government uses “barrel bombs” rolled out of transports and helicopters.
These are not precision weapons, but if the target is a village or other residential area, they are accurate enough. The Syrian barrel bombs have been used frequently against civilian targets like markets, mosques, hospitals, schools and apartment buildings. This has persuaded many anti-Assad Syrians to flee the country which is exactly what the government wants. Now many of these Syrian refugees are forcing their way into Europe, which is another win as far as the Assads are concerned.

Russian troops began arriving in late August and by mid-September began launching air strikes. That accelerated on 9th October and will continue to do so as more and more Russian cargo ships arrive with weapons, troops, ammunition and equipment. This increase in Russian military aid to Syria solves several problems for Russia. For one, it prevents the looming collapse of the Assad government, which has been losing territory at an accelerating rate in 2015 and is facing a collapse in morale among its forces and civilian supporters. Russia has been a staunch ally of the Assad dynasty since the 1970s. Iran can’t provide more aid, mainly because despite the July agreement to lift sanctions on Iran that does not go into effect until early 2016 and until then Iran is as broke as ever.
But the arrival of the Russian troops does boost Iranian morale and willingness to send in more troops to act as advisors and trainers.

Russia is only sending a few thousand ground troops but these are some of the best troops Russia has and ISIL and the other Islamic terrorist rebels will suffer much heavier casualties if they clash with these Russians. All this will boost morale among troops and Syrian civilians in Assad territory and make it more likely that a Russian peace proposal that keeps the Assads in power, even if it means a partition of Syria, will be more acceptable to the world. Russia says it is sending only “volunteers”. This is a policy adopted in Ukraine, and for good reason. While “acting strong” is popular with most Russians, the risk of your own conscripted sons getting sent to Ukraine or Syria and killed or maimed is definitely not popular.

To the dismay of Russian leaders it was found that even when young volunteer (“contract”) soldiers get hurt there is popular backlash. This despite a government willingness to pay compensation (not a Russian tradition) to families of the dead, as well as to disabled soldiers. Thus Russia has an incentive to rely a lot on tech and mercenaries (mainly supplied by Iran) to avoid Russian casualties. That said the Russian force is not large (because Russian cannot afford a larger force) and they are depending on terror to help out. Russians make no secret of their indifference to civilian casualties and the use of terror against their enemies. ISIL sees this as more of a threat than the more high-tech Americans.

By mid-September Russia had brought in enough warplanes and troops to support and protect the airbase near the coast in Latakia province. Despite Russian talk about it all being about ISIL (al Qaeda in Iraq and the Levant), most of the attacks so far have been against the most immediate threats to the twenty percent of Syria that the Assad forces control. This means rebels who are trying to defeat the Assads and not, like ISIL, seeking to establish a worldwide Islamic religious dictatorship. To placate foreign criticism Russia did hint that a column might be sent east to threaten the ISIL capital Raqqa. That would certainly be possible but even the Russians realize that most of the ISIL gunmen in the east are based among the population outside Raqqa and while these fanatics would die in large numbers they would also be inflicting a lot of unwelcome casualties on whoever the Russians had fighting on the ground.

Nevertheless the Syrian government and their Iranian military advisors are examining the idea of sending a ground force of Syrian and mercenary (non-Russian) troops to Raqqa, assisted by ruthless Russian air power.
Russia wants to carry out a “heroic intervention” to defeat ISIL and earn some positive publicity. That sort of thing is badly needed as Russia is currently seen as a treacherous bully because of its aggression in Ukraine and elsewhere in East Europe. By the end of the year Russia expects to turn that around, even if some depict them as a treacherous and opportunistic hero. Smashing ISIL would nevertheless be praised and appreciated. It would also be seen as a defeat for America and affirmation of Russian might and loyalty to its allies. The main problem Russia faces is doing this with a minimum of Russian casualties. That means inspiring the Syrian military, the Hezbollah militia and Iranian mercenaries to do most of the dangerous work on the ground.

Russia admits that it is breaking the UN embargo to supply the Assad government with new weapons. That was clear as Russia announced the sale to Syria of another twelve MiG-29s. Only nine will be delivered by the end of 2016 and the last three will arrive in 2017. Russia appears determined to immediately do a lot to rebuild what is left of the Syrian Air Force, which has suffered enormous (over 70 percent) losses since 2011. Russia has always provided tech and material (spare parts) support for this largely Russian fleet of warplanes and helicopters but not enough for the Syrians to keep more than 30 percent of the 370 aircraft and helicopters operational. The surge of Russian support will mean the Syrian Air Force can be rebuilt and thus be even more active. The 50 or so Russian aircraft in Syria consist of Su-34 and Su-30 fighter-bombers, Su-24M bombers and Su-25 ground attack aircraft as well as about a dozen armed helicopters. There are also many transport helicopters.

[Katman]

I wondered how long it would be before the Western propaganda mouth-piece turned up.

[TheDemonLord]

For the sake of fairness - Swoop - can you cite some sources for a number of your claims?

[oldrider]

11 October 2015: The Russian air support for the Syrian government forces has been effective, mainly because the Russians don’t care if civilians are in the way and get hurt.
This is just as well because a lot of the Russian bombs are unguided. etc etc

Interesting article but why not simply post the link? - save space! :scratch:

[flyingcrocodile46]

For the sake of fairness - Swoop - can you cite some sources for a number of your claims?

What fucking sham. "for the sake of fairness" ask him to post "evidence" rather than the source you slimy weasel. (use of barrel bombs accepted)

His source is obviously MSM and US state dept propaganda along with his own spin.

[TheDemonLord]

What fucking sham. "for the sake of fairness" ask him to post "evidence" rather than the source you slimy weasel. (use of barrel bombs accepted)

His source is obviously MSM and US state dept propaganda along with his own spin.

http://heahea.org/img/636-U_mad.jpg

[Swoop]

I wondered how long it would be before the Western propaganda mouth-piece turned up.


(use of barrel bombs accepted)His source is obviously MSM and US state dept propaganda along with his own spin.

Ahh, the sound of whining cunts in the afternoon.:killingme
A few simple facts that you have not gleaned from "western mainstream propaganda". FC46 you'd be disappointed by the source... (glad you acknowledge the barrel-bomb use however)

[Banditbandit]

Are they still a thing? I thought natural section nailed those fuckers?

Yeah - I went to one of their meetings a while ago - it was bullshit .. they all sit around and make bad puns ... they might have slightly higher IQs (a bullshit concept) than yer average person - but they are all stuck at 17 years old ...


It is not surprising that Russia has sided with Al=Assad ... he's the leader of the Syrian branch of the Ba'ath party .. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Socialist_Ba%27ath_Party_%E2%80%93_Syria_Regi on) - an old-fashioned atheistic Socialist party ...

It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist or anti-'merikan person to understand that the Russians are supporting their fellow travelors ...

So - who do we want to "win" in Syria? The brutal ditactor (supported by Putin) who acts like a modern-day Stalin? The Muslim fundamentalists? Or the Free Syrian Army (currently being bombed the shit out of by Russia under the guide of attacking ISIS)?

[oldrider]

Yeah - I went to one of their meetings a while ago - it was bullshit .. they all sit around and make bad puns ... they might have slightly higher IQs (a bullshit concept) than yer average person - but they are all stuck at 17 years old ...


It is not surprising that Russia has sided with Al=Assad ... he's the leader of the Syrian branch of the Ba'ath party .. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Socialist_Ba%27ath_Party_%E2%80%93_Syria_Regi on) - an old-fashioned atheistic Socialist party ...

It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist or anti-'merikan person to understand that the Russians are supporting their fellow travelors ...

So - who do we want to "win" in Syria? The brutal ditactor (supported by Putin) who acts like a modern-day Stalin? The Muslim fundamentalists? Or the Free Syrian Army (currently being bombed the shit out of by Russia under the guide of attacking ISIS)?

So these are the guy's that we (NZ) should continue to support without question? https://www.rt.com/usa/318425-obama-syria-strategy-russia/

[Banditbandit]

So these are the guy's that we (NZ) should continue to support without question? https://www.rt.com/usa/318425-obama-syria-strategy-russia/

I doubt it ...

Obama is right - there is no silver bullet for Syria - or for most of the middle east ... it's a cluster fuck ...

[Brian d marge]

I doubt it ...

Obama is right - there is no silver bullet for Syria - or for most of the middle east ... it's a cluster fuck ...
Have a listen to what Putin has been saying - He called a spade a digging utensil

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[Swoop]

Have a listen to what Putin has been saying - He called a spade a digging utensil
Yup.
And he's doing a far better job than the Americans.

[scumdog]

I doubt it ...

Obama is right - there is no silver bullet for Syria - or for most of the middle east ... it's a cluster fuck ...

And long may the cluster-fuck stay where it is...

[bogan]

Yeah - I went to one of their meetings a while ago - it was bullshit .. they all sit around and make bad puns ... they might have slightly higher IQs (a bullshit concept) than yer average person - but they are all stuck at 17 years old ...


It is not surprising that Russia has sided with Al=Assad ... he's the leader of the Syrian branch of the Ba'ath party .. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Socialist_Ba%27ath_Party_%E2%80%93_Syria_Regi on) - an old-fashioned atheistic Socialist party ...

It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist or anti-'merikan person to understand that the Russians are supporting their fellow travelors ...

So - who do we want to "win" in Syria? The brutal ditactor (supported by Putin) who acts like a modern-day Stalin? The Muslim fundamentalists? Or the Free Syrian Army (currently being bombed the shit out of by Russia under the guide of attacking ISIS)?
You've got that round the wrong way, bad puns are a bullshit concept; iq is entirely relevant, you just have to be intelligent enough to know how to apply it :bleh:

[Banditbandit]

You've got that round the wrong way, bad puns are a bullshit concept; iq is entirely relevant, you just have to be intelligent enough to know how to apply it :bleh:

IQ tests are 'fundamentally flawed' and using them alone to measure intelligence is a 'fallacy', study finds
results cast into doubt tests that have been used to link cognitive ability to race, gender and class

STEVE CONNOR Friday 21 December 2012

The idea that intelligence can be measured by IQ tests alone is a fallacy according to the largest single study into human cognition which found that it comprises of at least three distinct mental traits.

IQ tests have been used for decades to assess intelligence but they are fundamentally flawed because they do not take into account the complex nature of the human intellect and its different components, the study found.

The results question the validity of controversial studies of intelligence based on IQ tests which have drawn links between intellectual ability race, gender and social class and led to highly contentious claims that some groups of people are inherently less intelligent that other groups.

Instead of a general measure of intelligence epitomised by the intelligence quotient (IQ), intellectual ability consists of short-term memory, reasoning and verbal agility. Although these interact with one another they are handled by three distinct nerve “circuits” in the brain, the scientists found.

“The results disprove once and for all the idea that a single measure of intelligence, such as IQ, is enough to capture all of the differences in cognitive ability that we see between people,” said Roger Highfield, director of external affairs at the Science Museum in London.

“Instead, several different circuits contribute to intelligence, each with its own unique capacity. A person may well be good in one of these areas, but they are just as likely to be bad in the other two,” said Dr Highfield, a co-author of the study published in the journal Neuron.

The research involved an on-line survey of more than 100,000 people from around the world who were asked to complete 12 mental tests for measuring different aspects of cognitive ability, such as memory, reasoning, attention and planning.

The researchers took a representative sample of 46,000 people and analysed how they performed. They found there were three distinct components to cognitive ability: short-term memory, reasoning and a verbal component.

Professor Adrian Owen of the University of Western Ontario in Canada said that the uptake for the tests was astonishing. The scientists expected a few hundred volunteers to spend the half hour it took to complete the on-line tests, but in the end they got thousands from every corner of the world, Professor Owen said.

The scientists found that no single component, or IQ, could explain all the variations revealed by the tests. The researcher then analysed the brain circuitry of 16 participants with a hospital MRI scanner and found that the three separate components corresponded to three distinct patterns of neural activity in the brain.

“It has always seemed to be odd that we like to call the human brain the most complex known object in the Universe, yet many of us are still prepared to accept that we can measure brain function by doing a few so-called IQ tests,” Dr Highfield said.

“For a century or more many people have thought that we can distinguish between people, or indeed populations, based on the idea of general intelligence which is often talked about in terms of a single number: IQ. We have shown here that’s just wrong,” he said.

Studies over the past 50 years based on IQ tests have suggested that there could be inherent differences in intelligence between racial groups, social classes and between men and women, but these conclusions are undermined by the latest findings, Dr Highfield said.

“We already know that, from a scientific point of view, the notion of race is meaningless. Genetic differences do not map on to traditional measurements of skin colour, hair type, body proportions and skull measurements. Now we have shown that IQ is meaningless too,” Dr Highfield said.

The smarter test: Try it yourself

These questions evaluate the three components of intelligence.

Memory

Candidates would be asked to remember and repeat a sequence, digits 3, 6, 1, 9, 6, 2, 5, 3 for example

Reasoning

If Box A is twice as big as Box B and Box C is half the size of Box A, which is bigger, C or B?

Verbal skills

If you are given the statement, “A does not follow B”, and then shown the letter B followed by the letter A, is the statement true or false?

Answers: They’re both the same size; False

[bogan]

IQ tests are 'fundamentally flawed' and using them alone to measure intelligence is a 'fallacy', study finds
results cast into doubt tests that have been used to link cognitive ability to race, gender and class

Have you looked into correlation between the aggregates or weighted aggregates of the three section result scores they found, and the single score given by IQ?

I mean it's all well and good to read a news story and go, yes, I like that result; but I beleive I mentioned something about being intelligent enough to apply the IQ results...

[TheDemonLord]

As an aside - it has been theorized that some people with low or average 'traditional' IQ results may have higher intelligences in other areas (the common one being emotional intelligence) I will admit it's been a while since I have read anything on the subject.

[Banditbandit]

Have you looked into correlation between the aggregates or weighted aggregates of the three section result scores they found, and the single score given by IQ?

I mean it's all well and good to read a news story and go, yes, I like that result; but I beleive I mentioned something about being intelligent enough to apply the IQ results...

Hang on .. I believe that, once again, you have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck ..

[bogan]

Hang on .. I believe that, once again, you have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck ..

Which incidentally, is the number one reason why it is so easy to get a high IQ.

[jonbuoy]

Have you looked into correlation between the aggregates or weighted aggregates of the three section result scores they found, and the single score given by IQ?

I mean it's all well and good to read a news story and go, yes, I like that result; but I beleive I mentioned something about being intelligent enough to apply the IQ results...

IQ tests don't and can't test problem solving, alternative/creative thinking, social skills/awareness, ability to cope under pressure/stress. Which are generally pretty desirable in a lot of jobs and situations.

[flyingcrocodile46]

This guy usually does well researched and verifiable source reports (though notably not so for this report).

However, I think he identifies some reasonably plausible scenarios as to how Russia might be looking at playing their geo-strategic cards.

Worth a look imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idHQIMrtB2M

[Conquiztador]

This guy usually does well researched and verifiable source reports (though notably not so for this report).

However, I think he identifies some reasonably plausible scenarios as to how Russia might be looking at playing their geo-strategic cards.

Worth a look imo.


Impressive. Calculated, well planned and ticking all the right boxes. Add all other things that are going on behind the scene and EU plus USA are running out of options. In fact some of the Europan countries are starting to wonder if they have backed the right player. Like or hate Putin, perhaps chess has proven to be a better game than Space Invaders when one wants to teach strategy...

[SPman]

Dmitri Orlov sums it all up....
Prattling on about “freedom and democracy” in the Middle East is also silly because the entire region is tribal—has been tribal for a few thousand years, and will be tribal for a few thousand more. In each locale, some tribe is on top. If the idea is to carve it up into sovereign territorial units (none of which qualifies as a nation, because each one ends up being multinational) then each territorial unit ends up being ruled by some tribe while others grumble. Blunder in and exploit their grumbling to bring about “regime change”—and the whole place invariably burns down.

A case in point is Israel: it's got the top dog tribe—the Jews, and they can shoot or bomb anybody else with impunity. It is considered “democratic” because the Jews get to vote, which is very nice for the Jews. The Alawites in Syria get to vote too—and vote for Bashar al Assad—so why isn't that good enough? Because of American hypocrisy and double standards.

It's like that right down the line. Saudi Arabia is owned by one tribe—the House of Saud, and everybody else is disenfranchised. Iraq used to be run by the Sunnis from Saddam Hussein's tribe, but the Americans dislodged them, and now what remains of it is ruled by the Shia from the south of the country while the Sunnis ran off and joined ISIS. This can all seem like super-simple stuff, but not for the Americans, because it runs counter to their ideology, which dictates that the world must be remade in America's image. And so they keep trying to do this (or keep pretending to be trying, because results don't matter as long as their military contractors get paid) and don't seem to care one bit that this is making them look very silly.

And so the typical pattern has been this: the US bombs a country to smithereens, mounts a ground invasion, sets up a puppet regime and, promptly or not so promptly, pulls out. The puppet regime falls apart, and then you have either ungovernable chaos or some new, especially nasty form of dictatorship, or a little of each: a failed state, like Libya, and Yemen, and much of Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. It doesn't much matter that this is the result (as long as the military contractors are getting paid) because America's motto seems to be "Look Silly and Carry On." Wreck a country—and it's on to the next bombing campaign.

http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-worlds-silliest-empire.html#more

[Tazz]

Dmitri Orlov sums it all up....

http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-worlds-silliest-empire.html#more

Since the early days of the USAs invasion of Afghanistan their own (the USoA) military leaders on the ground have been saying similar to be fair.

[Brian d marge]

Dmitri Orlov sums it all up....

http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-worlds-silliest-empire.html#more
What is the house of bush motto

ORDO AB CHAO

Order out of chaos

Just been talking to an irainian fella . .his opinion

Isis aint muslin . Assad is a little hitler but is much preferable to isis

And tehran is safer than new york

I would agree with that . .me thinks

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[TheDemonLord]

I saw this,

And thought of the KB Konspiracy Krew.



https://youtu.be/urglg3WimHA

[Katman]

I saw this,

And thought of the KB Konspiracy Krew.

I saw this and thought of you, bogan, Ed, husaberk etc.

http://www.eradicatescrapie.org/Images/Animals/Sheep%20Flock%20(775%20x%20301).jpg

[TheDemonLord]

I saw this and thought of you, bogan, Ed, husaberk etc.

http://www.eradicatescrapie.org/Images/Animals/Sheep%20Flock%20(775%20x%20301).jpg

You should really see a Doctor about that, Beastiality is highly frowned upon.

[oldrider]

I saw this,

And thought of the KB Konspiracy Krew.



https://youtu.be/urglg3WimHA


I saw this and thought of you, bogan, Ed, husaberk etc.

http://www.eradicatescrapie.org/Images/Animals/Sheep%20Flock%20(775%20x%20301).jpg

That's much better - good shit all round! :lol: John. :corn:

[Brian d marge]

I saw this,

And thought of the KB Konspiracy Krew.



https://youtu.be/urglg3WimHA
The K k k

Hahaha i like that well done

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[oldrider]

Anyone else notice that when the West (USA) was bombing sand and other useless targets in the Middle East MSM (main stream media) was full of it? :mega:

And now that the Russians are involved and bombing real terrorists ----------- the silence of the MSM is deafening? :shutup: -- :scratch:

[Jin]

Something something jews

[flyingcrocodile46]

Anyone else notice that when the West (USA) was bombing sand and other useless targets in the Middle East MSM (main stream media) was full of it? :mega:

And now that the Russians are involved and bombing real terrorists ----------- the silence of the MSM is deafening? :shutup: -- :scratch:

As hinted previously, gotta get the attention away from Palestine/Israel and positive Russia actions (or drastically distort public perception).

I see MSM have just started parroting the results of a conveniently timed and appropriately focused Merican poll that purports to show almost 75% of Americans are concerned about their vulnerability to Russian military aggression. :rolleyes: Perfect baseline to start a new round of fear porn from.

I expect we will see another upsurge in false flag attacks/spontaneous public uprisings etc soon. That'll give them some fresh momentum and a framework to rekindle a revised narrative and fear porn tsunami around. East Ukraine has been overly quiet for a while. :whistle:

[Brian d marge]

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

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[TheDemonLord]

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

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A Brilliant book I must confess - that an Animal farm.

I was lucky enough to read it for the joy of reading, as opposed to studying it at School

[Brian d marge]

A Brilliant book I must confess - that an Animal farm.

I was lucky enough to read it for the joy of reading, as opposed to studying it at School
Both book have have been read many times this end . . Ive worn the ink out

Now must dash . Those pigs need feeding

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[Conquiztador]

For the ones of us who want to find out more, here a selection of articles:

http://21stcenturywire.com/tag/syria/

[Brian d marge]

If you are invited . . You are an ally

If your not invited you is an agressor

Andd thats against the UN rules . . .so sanctions should be placed on . .whom?

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[Katman]

And once again we see the U.S. government and the Western media trying to pin the latest chemical weapons attack in Syria on Assad - without any evidence of who is actually responsible.

Looks like America is saddling up for another invasion.

Gotta keep the war industry (and Israel) happy somehow.

https://www.rt.com/usa/383624-trump-syria-red-line/

[Katman]

And so it begins.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11834020

[Voltaire]

Would it be beyond the realms of possibility that " The Rebels" would do it to get the US/West involved?

[Katman]

Would it be beyond the realms of possibility that " The Rebels" would do it to get the US/West involved?

Shirley not.

That sounds like some sort of madcap conspiracy.

Next you'll be suggesting America might have supplied them with the chemicals.

[TheDemonLord]

Shirley not.

That sounds like some sort of madcap conspiracy.

Next you'll be suggesting America might have supplied them with the chemicals.

Next I'll be asking for Evidence...

[Katman]

Next I'll be asking for Evidence...

Maybe America should have waited for some before launching their air strike.

[TheDemonLord]

Maybe America should have waited for some before launching their air strike.

If that is true, then I would agree with you.

[pritch]

Gotta keep the war industry (snip) happy somehow.



It must have been one of the podcasts I listen to, I think "Intercepted", but they were saying that the US backing of the Saudis in their war against the Houthi rebels in Yemen has been worth 20 Billion to the armaments suppliers.

I note that Trump said if he went into the Middle East he would take all their oil. In his blissful ignorance he is unaware that would be a war crime. Then again, he doesn't tend to bother about laws, conventions, or other such encumberances.

[yokel]

Well looks like the conspiracy theorists were right, Trump is a Zionist shill.

Watch the Zionist media NOT condemn Trump's actions.

[SPman]

Shirley not.

That sounds like some sort of madcap conspiracy.

Next you'll be suggesting America might have supplied them with the chemicals.
The El Quaeda based "rebels" have some chemical weapons left over from last time. (2013) Apparently they also seized a couple of hundred hostages from a nearby village a few days ago. Then..the day before more peace talks were due to start............bad Syrians!.... Mad Trump...and even worse..a military that is borderline out of control in the M.E....(the air attack on Syrian forces last year just as they were on the verge of defeating Daesh forces) and gung ho generals that want to attack someone......

So...By it's actions and by siding with the US, those countries have said they support Al Quaeda and Daesh in the Middle East over elected governments.

Also playing an edgy game with the Russians......so when's the first US or Russian plane going to be shot down......:corn:

[yokel]

The Zionist media now accepts Trump as one of their own. https://www.infowars.com/cnn-host-trump-became-president-after-bombing-syria/

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And if you disagree with the medias opinion.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YgPbFjUL3dk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[pritch]

I haven't got time to catch up on the news too much right now I'm going on a group ride this morning. It's OK though, I'm not expecting to be under pressure to keep up.

I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with something that Yokel posted. It's hard to see what Assad had to gain. Apparently the US MSM has switched to full propaganda mode. Maybe when I get back this afternoon things will have settled down.

[nzspokes]

See, this is what happens when you buy weapons from the Russians. Whats inside is different to whats on the box.

CGA should apply.

[Katman]

http://malu-aina.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Syria-ISIS-cartoon.jpg

[yokel]

So the people helping and tending to the "gassed" victims were not wearing their PPE! wait till work safe gets involved shits going to hit the fan.

Even this liberal knows it's a false flag.

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[nzspokes]

So the people helping and tending to the "gassed" victims were not wearing their PPE! wait till work safe gets involved shits going to hit the fan.

Even this liberal knows it's a false flag.


First responders were also gassed. HTH

[R650R]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/britains-daily-mail-u-s-backed-plan-to-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-on-syria/5346912

http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-daily-mail-online-article-us-backed-plan-for-chemical-weapon-attack-in-syria-to-be-blamed-on-assad/5339178

[Katman]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/britains-daily-mail-u-s-backed-plan-to-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-on-syria/5346912

http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-daily-mail-online-article-us-backed-plan-for-chemical-weapon-attack-in-syria-to-be-blamed-on-assad/5339178

Conspiracy Theorist!!!!!

[Swoop]

It's hard to see what Assad had to gain.
The area of the country that the Assad clan had support of the people, was quite small. The rest of Syria was ruled by force.

The first chemical attack began the wheeling and dealing. Obummer started making noises (didn't act though) and then the Russians said they'd broker the deal which included America promising not to get involved if the Syrians handed over all the chemical/bio shit.
Russia keeps a vital customer of their military equipment, gets to test and show off some of their stuff (no precision guided stuff though, as they don't have any...) to pimp their sales and marketing for other buyers.
The latest sarin attack tipped the scales, especially with a new Prez in town.

[Katman]

The first chemical attack began the wheeling and dealing.

You mean the one carried out by the Syrian rebels?

The one that Obama had to back down from when it became public knowledge?

[TheDemonLord]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/britains-daily-mail-u-s-backed-plan-to-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-on-syria/5346912

http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-daily-mail-online-article-us-backed-plan-for-chemical-weapon-attack-in-syria-to-be-blamed-on-assad/5339178

That 'Email' - it's being viewed using Windows Mail....

[Swoop]

You mean the one carried out by the Syrian rebels?

The one that Obama had to back down from when it became public knowledge?

The one the UN, France, Britain, etc investigated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

Obummer was a feckless puppet who became a pawn of putin and his cronies.

[jonbuoy]

I sense it's done for the publicity and not for the good of the Syrians. So we're ok with Nuking, Napalm, Claymores, Depleted Uranium, Agent Orange, Fire Bombing, stabbing, shooting, clubbing but suddenly killing people with gas becomes completely intolerable?

[Katman]

The one the UN, France, Britain, etc investigated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

Obummer was a feckless puppet who became a pawn of putin and his cronies.

Oh no, not the Wikipedia card.

:killingme

[yokel]

I sense it's done for the publicity and not for the good of the Syrians. So we're ok with Nuking, Napalm, Claymores, Depleted Uranium, Agent Orange, Fire Bombing, stabbing, shooting, clubbing but suddenly killing people with gas becomes completely intolerable?

Well killing people with gas is what Hitler allegedly did, so that must make Assad gasp..... an evil dictator just like Hitler!

So now what Trump says according to the media is "a statement in fact" my how they have changed their tune.

The BBC must have shares in that proposed Syria gas pipeline.


https://youtu.be/7Ry78O40Wc0

[Katman]

Peter Ford's likely to be found in the woods one day with a suicide wound to the back of his head.

[Swoop]

Oh no, not the Wikipedia card.
I knew you'd love it, in a predictable manner as always.

A bit different having a list of sources on a site, but have a read anyway. I guess you'll be siding with Iran, Russia and their Syrian <STRIKE>puppet</STRIKE> customer.

[Katman]

I knew you'd love it, in a predictable manner as always.

A bit different having a list of sources on a site, but have a read anyway. I guess you'll be siding with Iran, Russia and their Syrian <STRIKE>puppet</STRIKE> customer.

Did you notice that the U.N. investigation failed to determine who was responsible?

[R650R]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4394216/PETER-HITCHENS-noble-cause-Bombs-Al-Qaeda.html

[husaberg]

The area of the country that the Assad clan had support of the people, was quite small. The rest of Syria was ruled by force.

The first chemical attack began the wheeling and dealing. Obummer started making noises (didn't act though) and then the Russians said they'd broker the deal which included America promising not to get involved if the Syrians handed over all the chemical/bio shit.
Russia keeps a vital customer of their military equipment, gets to test and show off some of their stuff (no precision guided stuff though, as they don't have any...) to pimp their sales and marketing for other buyers.
The latest sarin attack tipped the scales, especially with a new Prez in town.

Plus the cluster bombs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUMNJI6LOmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwFii7gLBZ4
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/07/28/russia/syria-widespread-new-cluster-munition-use

Not to mention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9f8Ff8M6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfEJb2nL2g

[Swoop]

Did you notice that the U.N. investigation failed to determine who was responsible?
You noticed that France, Germany, Israel, Turkey and GB state that it was the Syrian military who were responsible?

[Swoop]

Plus the cluster bombs
A bit of a Russian slip up in video #2, letting that footage get aired.

[Katman]

You noticed that France, Germany, Israel, Turkey and GB state that it was the Syrian military who were responsible?

And yet the U.N. inspectors, at the site, couldn't determine who was responsible.

[Swoop]

And yet the U.N. inspectors, at the site, couldn't determine who was responsible.

Obviously the rebels.
Who else would be clever enough to use chemical warfare on their own stronghold. By doing this it will encourage Russia to come and help Fred Assad with some new aircraft, that can be used to drop more unguided bombs onto the rebel areas.
Clever little buggers.

[Katman]

Who else would be clever enough to use chemical warfare on their own stronghold.

What if it actually was a conventional Syrian bomb that hit a target where rebels were storing chemical weapons?

That explanation makes a lot more sense than Assad deliberately drawing America deeper into the conflict.

[Grumph]

What if it actually was a conventional Syrian bomb that hit a target where rebels were storing chemical weapons?

That explanation makes a lot more sense than Assad deliberately drawing America deeper into the conflict.

Assad was sending a message to his internal opposition - who looked like doing better out of the peace deal than him - that he was still in a position of power and could still hurt them.
No one could predict that Trump would actually do something - I'd put money on his staff being as surprised as anyone.
He's said contradictory things about US invovement before - but I'd also bet that the deciding factor was to improve his popularity at home.

[TheDemonLord]

What if it actually was a conventional Syrian bomb that hit a target where rebels were storing chemical weapons?

That explanation makes a lot more sense than Assad deliberately drawing America deeper into the conflict.

Actually, I'm not sure that is technically possible - from memory, the heat and shockwave from a high explosive charge (such as that from a Bomb) actually interferes with some Chemical agents.

[pritch]

Obummer started making noises (didn't act though)

Obama put a proposal for action to Congress as the law requires, but the Repuublican controlled house wouldn't move. Trump it seems didn't bother asking, he just sent the Missiles.

Since my comment that I couldn't see whet Assad had to gain I've had a change of mind. All of the messages coming from the US were that they didn't give a shit about Syria, so Assad might have considered he was safe to step up the action in an effort to speed things along.

Ninety million dollars worth of missiles to kill six unlucky arabs. Good for the missile manufacturers I guess.

[Brian d marge]

Obama put a proposal for action to Congress as the law requires, but the Repuublican controlled house wouldn't move. Trump it seems didn't bother asking, he just sent the Missiles.

Since my comment that I couldn't see whet Assad had to gain I've had a change of mind. All of the messages coming from the US were that they didn't give a shit about Syria, so Assad might have considered he was safe to step up the action in an effort to speed things along.

Ninety million dollars worth of missiles to kill six unlucky arabs. Good for the missile manufacturers I guess.

a couple of questions

Sarin gas , good shit that , look at the protection they recommend to wear ....

What possible thing could assad hope to gain ? what do the folks who launched the missiles hope to gain ?

what was the launch mechanism for the chemical weapons and who in that are owns chemicals weapons ?

Who are the "reporters " who wrote this story , the Syrian organization for human rights , old rammi from his bedroom in Coventry


all the answers will appear in "stuffed.con.nz "

[Katman]

Since my comment that I couldn't see whet Assad had to gain I've had a change of mind. All of the messages coming from the US were that they didn't give a shit about Syria, so Assad might have considered he was safe to step up the action in an effort to speed things along.

So what might he stand to gain by gassing civilians?

[husaberg]

a couple of questions

Sarin gas , good shit that , look at the protection they recommend to wear ....



Last place i remember it being used was on Japan on the subway.
By the Japanese equivalent of Fat Bastard.


Assad obtained a lot of Saddam Hussein chemical weapons prior to the US invasion.
There use is not new, i was posting about it at least 6 months ago
They were even using homemade chlorine bombs dropped from helicopters.
The ex Iraq ones were being lunched from artillery.



So what might he stand to gain by gassing civilians?

Less civilians, I note the cililians were not in Assad friendly areas or did you miss that?

[Brian d marge]

Last place i remember it being used was on Japan on the subway.
By the Japanese equivalent of Fat Bastard.


Assad obtained a lot of Saddam Hussein chemical weapons prior to the US invasion.
There use is not new, i was posting about it at least 6 months ago
They were even using homemade chlorine bombs dropped from helicopters.
The ex Iraq ones were being lunched from artillery.




Less civilians, I note the cililians were not in Assad friendly areas or did you miss that?
Yes .
Ommmmmmmm

But half the population in Syria has access to chemical weapons
My questions still stand

Chemical weapons oh how 1917 ...Cant use a nuke or a fire bomb like the Germans did
Must use some archaic " terror" weapon
No one gives a shit these day if ya just bomb a city into Oblivion

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[husaberg]

Yes .
Ommmmmmmm

But half the population in Syria has access to chemical weapons
My questions still stand

Chemical weapons oh how 1917 ...Cant use a nuke or a fire bomb like the Germans did
Must use some archaic " terror" weapon
No one gives a shit these day if ya just bomb a city into Oblivion

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Err as i posted a few times the Russians are using both incenderies and cluster bombs already.

[Katman]

Err as i posted a few times the Russians are using both incenderies and cluster bombs already.

The people who made two of the videos you posted earlier don't seem to know the difference between them.

[Brian d marge]

Err as i posted a few times the Russians are using both incenderies and cluster bombs already.
Not as " news" worthy

Ya want beautiful babies , chemistry and puppy's innocent puppies brutally butchered​ by mad drug crazied Muslims


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[Brian d marge]

I see wee Aya has appeared in the news again , these crisis actors start early ,

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[Brian d marge]

Vulgus vult decepi ergo decipiatur ,...

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[husaberg]

Not as " news" worthy

Ya want beautiful babies , chemistry and puppy's innocent puppies brutally butchered​ by mad drug crazied Muslims


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Chemical weapons and incendaries are the best bang for buck, esp when you factor in cililian fear to the accounts.

[Brian d marge]

Chemical weapons and incendaries are the best bang for buck, esp when you factor in cililian fear to the accounts.
I love chicken vindaloos

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[husaberg]

I love chicken vindaloos

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No need to dine out All the ingrediants for a chlorine bomb are under your sink.

[Katman]

Less civilians, I note the cililians were not in Assad friendly areas or did you miss that?

Really?

You think a few dozen dead civilians would gain him enough to out-weigh the worldwide condemnation and military repercussions that would result from him carrying out the attack?

[husaberg]

Really?

You think a few dozen dead civilians would gain him enough to out-weigh the worldwide condemnation and military repercussions that would result from him carrying out the attack?

If that was logical why did Sadam do the exact same thing, not to mention Osama bin Laden etc etc etc

[jonbuoy]

I would wager it would be a lot harder to find willing soldiers if chemical/biological weapons were more widespread.

Let's face it they could be more useful than nukes. If you develop a highly toxic agent that kills quickly, and neutralises itself from the environment in a reasonable space of time it's the perfect weapon. All the infrastructure is kept in place, zero property damage. Ready for you to move into. Win win. I'm sure a lot of countries including our own are working on that behind closed doors.

[Berries]

If you develop a highly toxic agent that kills quickly, and neutralises itself from the environment in a reasonable space of time it's the perfect weapon. All the infrastructure is kept in place, zero property damage. Ready for you to move into. Win win. I'm sure a lot of countries including our own are working on that behind closed doors.
We can't even deal with possums.

[Brian d marge]

If that was logical why did Sadam do the exact same thing, not to mention Osama bin Laden etc etc etc cause its the same game plan since the roman times

nothing has changed

[Katman]

America's goal in Syria.

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[Katman]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/91460435/syria-hoax-australian-university-at-centre-of-proassad-push

[Grumph]

I would wager it would be a lot harder to find willing soldiers if chemical/biological weapons were more widespread.

Let's face it they could be more useful than nukes. If you develop a highly toxic agent that kills quickly, and neutralises itself from the environment in a reasonable space of time it's the perfect weapon. All the infrastructure is kept in place, zero property damage. Ready for you to move into. Win win. I'm sure a lot of countries including our own are working on that behind closed doors.

Wasn't the neutron bomb supposed to be the answer ? No bang, just intense radiation which killed everything - and had a short half-life too.

[Banditbandit]

America's goal in Syria.

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He's going to be back-tracking on that one for many years ..

[Brian d marge]

He's going to be back-tracking on that one for many years ..
Not if it goes nuclear , which is a very real threat


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[Swoop]

... makes a lot more sense than Assad deliberately drawing America deeper into the conflict.

Perhaps Assad is comfortable knowing that Bob Putin has his back?
Also comfortable knowing that the USA will not do anything.

[Katman]

Perhaps Assad is comfortable knowing that Bob Putin has his back?
Also comfortable knowing that the USA will not do anything.

So what do you think he stands to gain by gassing a few dozen civilians?

[Swoop]

So what do you think he stands to gain by gassing a few dozen civilians?

Remembering that we are dealing with the minds of arabs, who are "alternative" decision makers to us.

Just resorting to type?
Tribal aggression against against neighbouring tribes which make up the country of Syria?
Typical "strong-man" power play?

He certainly isn't looking at expanding the borders of the original country. Or is he...

[Katman]

Remembering that we are dealing with the minds of arabs, who are "alternative" decision makers to us.

Just resorting to type?
Tribal aggression against against neighbouring tribes which make up the country of Syria?
Typical "strong-man" power play?

He certainly isn't looking at expanding the borders of the original country. Or is he...

Have you been taking stupidity lessons from husaberk?

[Swoop]

Have you been taking stupidity lessons from husaberk?
...............
329969

[mashman]

Remembering that we are dealing with the minds of arabs, who are "alternative" decision makers to us.

True. Hafez al-assad believed in Arab unity through peaceful negotiation. Kissinger decided otherwise and acted accordingly.

[husaberg]

Have you been taking stupidity lessons from husaberk?

You’re projecting the inadequacies of your own argument onto others again.
It’s not your fault of course, it’s just you are a narcissist, too full of yourself to consider you could ever be wrong.

[Katman]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784

[jonbuoy]

Wasn't the neutron bomb supposed to be the answer ? No bang, just intense radiation which killed everything - and had a short half-life too.

Thank god they never cracked that one.

The end result has been a diplomatic cooling between Putin and Trump, is that the desired result? Putin and Trump were looking a little bit too cozy for a while. Certainly taken the heat out of the media over the Putin/Trump collaboration allegations.

[oldrider]

Intelligence and Military Sources Who Warned About Weapons Lies Before Iraq War Now Say that Assad Did Not Launch Chemical Weapon Attack :confused:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/intelligence-and-military-sources-who-warned-about-weapons-lies-before-iraq-war-now-say-that-assad-did-not-launch-chemical-weapon-attack/5584682

[oldrider]

Intelligence and Military Sources Who Warned About Weapons Lies Before Iraq War Now Say that Assad Did Not Launch Chemical Weapon Attack :confused:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/intelligence-and-military-sources-who-warned-about-weapons-lies-before-iraq-war-now-say-that-assad-did-not-launch-chemical-weapon-attack/5584682

Trump’s Syria Attack Trampled Many Laws ? http://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-syria-attack-trampled-many-laws/5584696?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

The most dangerous thing exposed by this seems to be "Trump's" itchy trigger finger! - :hitcher: (you have to actually read it to appreciate the irony of it!)

[Brian d marge]

True. Hafez al-assad believed in Arab unity through peaceful negotiation. Kissinger decided otherwise and acted accordingly.
Ah but kissandtell was always a good negotiator, ended the Vietnam war he did , won a Nobel prize for peace and all

And at 101, still going

All this can be yours , just come on down to honest Bob's crossroads and talk to our representative,

Sign your soul away and you to can have it all ...

Terms and conditions apply , you must be over 18 or have parental permission

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[mashman]

Ah but kissandtell was always a good negotiator, ended the Vietnam war he did , won a Nobel prize for peace and all

And at 101, still going

All this can be yours , just come on down to honest Bob's crossroads and talk to our representative,

Sign your soul away and you to can have it all ...

Terms and conditions apply , you must be over 18 or have parental permission

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Bit pricey. You got a bridge or something more useful I can have?

[Brian d marge]

Bit pricey. You got a bridge or something more useful I can have?
Sold it to Ocean a few months back

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[oldrider]

“The Mother of All Bombs” (MOAB) Slated to be Used against Iran and North Korea? - http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mother-of-all-bombs-moab-slated-to-be-used-against-iran/5333811 :rolleyes:

[Swoop]

“The Mother of All Bombs” (MOAB) Slated to be Used against Iran and North Korea? - http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mother-of-all-bombs-moab-slated-to-be-used-against-iran/5333811 :rolleyes:
If you believe what the candians say.
Others will say that it can be used anywhere.

[Brian d marge]

If you believe what the candians say.
Others will say that it can be used anywhere.
Don't leave a Canadian alone with animals. They swing all way and everyway

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[Berries]

So this globalresearch.ca website is kosher is it? Possibly the wrong choice of word but with four links on this page alone are we to consider it as the real truth?

[oldrider]

So this globalresearch.ca website is kosher is it? Possibly the wrong choice of word but with four links on this page alone are we to consider it as the real truth?

That's actually a good question! :yes:

Not all - it is just another news source publishing opinion pieces from writers who are a bit closer to the action than we are!

Whether anybody takes it on board and believes it is entirely up to the individual reading it.

I personally like to look at how the comments line up with what we are being fed generally (MSM etc) and what is actually happening over time.

If you scramble it among some of the other opinion sources a bit of patten emerges - again readers choice - so far they seem to be pretty reliable.

Before the advent of the internet information was very difficult to procure and was even more dodgy in the extremes and expensive and took ages to get.

The internet has it's good and bad points but at least we now get the opportunity to think for ourselves - long may it last! :yes:

[Katman]

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/66712.html

[awa355]

“The Mother of All Bombs” (MOAB) Slated to be Used against Iran and North Korea? - http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mother-of-all-bombs-moab-slated-to-be-used-against-iran/5333811 :rolleyes:

If this 'mother of all bombs', all 10,300kg of it can only wipe out 36 baddies at a time (and according to US military, no civilians), How many bombs is it going to take to deal to the other 6-800 isis fighter still in this region?. :no:

[Swoop]

Don't leave a Canadian alone with animals. They swing all way and everyway
Interesting comment.
I have my own opinion which is similar, having witnessed what Canadians do with domestic animals...

[Swoop]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/14/bashar-al-assad-still-has-hundreds-tonnes-chemical-weapons-former/

[oldrider]

Video: President Al-Assad: Khan Sheikhoun Chemical Weapons Incident Totally Fabricated.. the US is Not Serious in Achieving Any Political Solution

http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-president-al-assad-khan-sheikhoun-chemical-weapons-incident-totally-fabricated-the-us-is-not-serious-in-achieving-any-political-solution/5584931?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

How does all this reflect with official 9/11 story? - Y'-know way back when the terrorists were supposed to be the problem? :shifty: Could it have been the real plan all along? :facepalm:

[husaberg]

President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to AFP in which he said what happened in Khan Shaikhoun is a fabricated story, stressing that Syria does not possess a chemical arsenal and that even if it has such an arsenal, it will not use it.

Yeah right...........



Before the war began in 2011, Syria had research and production facilities near Damascus, Aleppo, Homs, Latakia and Hama that turned out hundreds of tons of chemical agents a year, according to the US-based James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies and the Nuclear Threat Initiative, which catalogs the world's arsenals of weapons of mass destruction.
Syria never signed the Chemical Weapons Convention, the current international treaty against the use of poison gas, but it did sign the 1925 Geneva Protocol, which banned the use of chemical and bacteriological warfare, according to the international Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW.)
Experts from the agency were part of a UN team that found "clear and convincing evidence" that Sarin was delivered by surface-to-surface rockets "on a relatively large scale" in the Ghouta area of the Syrian capital Damascus in August 2013.
The attack prompted Obama to ask Congress to authorize military action against Syria. Shortly after, Syria agreed to a Russian proposal to give up control of its chemical weapons, leading Obama to retreat from threats of military action.

A joint OPCW-UN panel found last year that Syrian government forces had used chlorine gas as a weapon. Syria denies using chemical weapons.



Former Top Military Aide to Saddam Reveals Dictator's Secret Plans January 26, 2006.
Syria Role On Iraqi Arms Is Studied Washington Post January 10, 2004.

Former Iraqi general Georges Sada claimed that in late 2002, Saddam had ordered all of his stockpiles to be moved to Syria. He appeared on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes in January 2006 to discuss his book, Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein. Anticipating the arrival of weapon inspectors on November 1, Sada said Saddam took advantage of the June 4 Zeyzoun Dam disaster in Syria by forming an "air bridge", loading them onto cargo aircraft and flying them out of the country.
They were moved by air and by ground, 56 sorties by jumbo, 747, and 27 were moved, after they were converted to cargo aircraft, they were moved to Syria.
In January 2004, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who moved to Western Europe, said in a letter to the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that he knows the three sites where Iraq's weapons of mass destruction are kept inside Syria. According to Nayuf's witness, described as a senior source inside Syrian military intelligence he had known for two years, Iraq's WMD are in tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria, in the village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp, and in the city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city. Nayouf also wrote that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assef Shawkat, Bashar Assad's cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice responded to this accusation by saying "I don't think we are at the point that we can make a judgment on this issue. There hasn't been any hard evidence that such a thing happened. But obviously we're going to follow up every lead, and it would be a serious problem if that, in fact, did happen


Interview with Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti Global Politician February 15, 2006.
In February 2006, Ali Ibrahim al-Tikriti, a former Iraqi general who defected shortly before the Gulf War in 1991, gave an interview to Ryan Mauro, in which he stated:
I know Saddam's weapons are in Syria due to certain military deals that were made going as far back as the late 1980s that dealt with the event that either capitals were threatened with being overrun by an enemy nation. Not to mention I have discussed this in-depth with various contacts of mine who have confirmed what I already knew. At this point Saddam knew that the United States were eventually going to come for his weapons and the United States wasn't going to just let this go like they did in the original Gulf War. He knew that he had lied for this many years and wanted to maintain legitimacy with the pan Arab nationalists. He also has wanted since he took power to embarrass the West and this was the perfect opportunity to do so. After Saddam denied he had such weapons why would he use them or leave them readily available to be found? That would only legitimize President Bush, whom he has a personal grudge against. What we are witnessing now is many who opposed the war to begin with are rallying around Saddam saying we overthrew a sovereign leader based on a lie about WMD. This is exactly what Saddam wanted and predicted.



Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief. The Daily Telegraph January 24, 2004
The Iraq Survey Group was told that Saddam Hussein periodically removed guards from the Syrian border and replaced them with his intelligence agents who then supervised the movement of banned materials between Syria and Iraq, according to two unnamed defense sources that spoke with The Washington Times. They reported heavy traffic in large trucks on the border before the United States invasion.[24] Earlier, in a telephone interview with The Daily Telegraph, the former head of the Iraqi Survey Group, David Kay, said: "[W]e know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved." Satellite imagery also picked up activity on the Iraq-Syria border before and during the invasion. James R. Clapper, who headed the National Imagery and Mapping Agency in 2003, has said U.S. intelligence tracked a large number of vehicles, mostly civilian trucks, moving from Iraq into Syria. Clapper suggested the trucks may have contained materiel related to Iraq's WMD programs
.

[oldrider]

Heavens there must have been a touch of nerve gas in my post material - well that's what it's all about! :corn: The truth is out there somewhere! :yes:

[oldrider]

Heavens there must have been a touch of nerve gas in my post material - well that's what it's all about! :corn: The truth is out there somewhere! :yes:
Looks like truth is starting to bust out all over?

Trump Undecided Whether to Go Light or Heavy in Syria? Divisions within Trump “War Cabinet” - http://www.globalresearch.ca/trump-undecided-whether-to-go-light-or-heavy-in-syria-divisions-within-trump-war-cabinet/5585119?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

Decisions decisions! :rolleyes: Why don't the USA stay right out of it? :scratch:

[husaberg]

Heavens there must have been a touch of nerve gas in my post material - well that's what it's all about! :corn: The truth is out there somewhere! :yes:

From the website you keep linking
http://www.globalresearch.ca/auschwitz-tthe-role-of-ig-farben-bayer/5526720

[Brian d marge]

President Bashar al-Assad gave an interview to AFP in which he said what happened in Khan Shaikhoun is a fabricated story, stressing that Syria does not possess a chemical arsenal and that even if it has such an arsenal, it will not use it.

Yeah right...........



A joint OPCW-UN panel found last year that Syrian government forces had used chlorine gas as a weapon. Syria denies using chemical weapons.
You do realize you are quoting the farmer at Xmas time saying the turkey will be fine




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[husaberg]

You do realize you are quoting the farmer at Xmas time saying the turkey will be fine
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The turkey will be all right thanksgiving is in November so he has 11 whole months to Turkey time.

They found Government helicopters dropped chlorine bombs "in residential areas in Aleppo on at least eight occasions between November 17 and December 13, 2016,"
https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/02/13/syria-coordinated-chemical-attacks-aleppo

Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War has been confirmed by the United Nations. Deadly attacks during the war included the Ghouta attack in the suburbs of Damascus in August 2013 and the Khan al-Assal attack in the suburbs of Aleppo in March 2013. While no party took responsibility for the chemical attacks, the Syrian Ba'athist military was seen as main suspect, due to a large arsenal of such weapons. A U.N. fact-finding mission and a UNHRC Commission of Inquiry have simultaneously investigated the attacks. The U.N. mission found likely use of the nerve agent sarin in the case of Khan al-Assal (19 March 2013), Saraqib (29 April 2013), Ghouta (21 August 2013), Jobar (24 August 2013) and Ashrafiyat Sahnaya (25 August 2013). The UNHRC commission later confirmed the use of sarin in the Khan al-Asal, Saraqib and Ghouta attacks, but did not mention the Jobar and the Ashrafiyat Sahnaya attacks. The UNHRC commission also found that the sarin used in the Khan al-Asal attack bore "the same unique hallmarks" as the sarin used in the Ghouta attack and indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to chemicals from the Syrian Army's stockpile. Those attacks prompted the international community to pressure disarmament of the Syrian Armed Forces from chemical weapons, which was executed during 2014. Despite the disarmament process, dozens of incidents with suspected use of chemical weapons followed throughout Syria, mainly blamed on Syrian Ba'athist forces, as well as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and even on Syrian opposition forces.
Note they found that evidence also 4 years ago The Russians brokered a deal after that particular incident

Experts from the agency were part of a UN team that found "clear and convincing evidence" that Sarin was delivered by surface-to-surface rockets "on a relatively large scale" in the Ghouta area of the Syrian capital Damascus in August 2013.
The attack prompted Obama to ask Congress to authorize military action against Syria. Shortly after, Syria agreed to a Russian proposal to give up control of its chemical weapons, leading Obama to retreat from threats of military action

[oldrider]

From the website you keep linking
http://www.globalresearch.ca/auschwitz-tthe-role-of-ig-farben-bayer/5526720

Thank you I would have missed that but for you - interesting but not quite related to topic! :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

Thank you I would have missed that but for you - interesting but not quite related to topic! :rolleyes:

I don't think so Its related to all the topics you post.

[oldrider]

I don't think so Its related to all the topics you post.

You are so kind and considerate - I feel I am warming toward you in our KB relationship! :yawn:

[Brian d marge]

You are so kind and considerate - I feel I am warming toward you in our KB relationship! :yawn:
Oi stop that subvertion

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[husaberg]

Oi stop that subvertion

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Read my signature. Ps he clearly has Stockholm Syndrome.

[oldrider]

Read my signature. Ps he clearly has Stockholm Syndrome.

husaberg = KB's own false news with censorship thrown in for free! :sick:

[husaberg]

husaberg = KB's own false news with censorship thrown in for free! :sick:

Point one thing i have posted that is false.........
Funny how you crow about your right to free speech whist attempting to stifle and subvert others.

[Brian d marge]

Point one thing i have posted that is false.........
.

anything from the "UN" :Police::innocent:

[oldrider]

Syria and Assad must go says the Western alliance (NWO) agencies!

<iframe width="620" height="379" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/TP3mXVRd89Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[husaberg]

Syria and Assad must go says the Western alliance (NWO) agencies!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/TP3mXVRd89Y

Does the video mention the shapeshifting lizards.

[Brian d marge]

Does the video mention the shapeshifting lizards.
No , it's direct from old rami abdurrahmans bedroom in Coventry the "Syrian observatory for human rights"
THE source for REAL news

J

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[husaberg]

No , it's direct from old rami abdurrahmans bedroom in Coventry the "Syrian observatory for human rights"
THE source for REAL news

J

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I asked as i seen the title have you watched it ?if i watch it and there is no shape shifting lizards mentioned, i will shout you a pint of stout.
If there is, no free booze....
Ps is there any clevage?

SYRIAN GIRL aka - Mimi al Laham
Lives in Aussie lol
Why don't the tin foilers consider this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW0HP7Xd2rs

[Brian d marge]

Does the video mention the shapeshifting lizards.
Yes, and she has pictures

Buy me beer😎
She is correct in what she says, except this " new world order"
If she said a group of very evil phycopathic gangs out for nothing but control and power at all costs, then i would agree.
As it stands , the standard Rothschild Zionist shapeshifters are mere bit players, yes they are the bankers to the Vatican. But who controls the information and the technology ? The Nazis, yes them lot. They didn't just disappear after the war , uncle Martin boorman hid a truck load of money in western banks , which is has to be repaid. , Possibly 30 trillion at today's rates.
The more i read the more the curse of Cain seems to be rearing its ugly head , race of shem , and the race of ham , ( teach him for dipping his wick in a witch on Noah's P and O cross channel ferry)
Syria is just business, nothing personal.



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[oldrider]

Does the video mention the shapeshifting lizards.

You just don't get it do you - it is just material and information to sift through - some you keep 90% you discard!

The video on Putin above gives something interesting to chew on and compare with Western interests - I was tempted to post that myself.

[husaberg]

You just don't get it do you - it is just material and information to sift through - some you keep 90% you discard!

The video on Putin above gives something interesting to chew on and compare with Western interests - I was tempted to post that myself.

if it includes shapeshifting lizards normal people discard 100% of it
Tempted maybe, but yet you ran with the anti western anti Jewish lizard man story instead.

[Brian d marge]

Well done Russia
no longer will the average ruski have to put up with the JWs ringing ya doorbell and posting the watchtower through the letterbox when you hide under the bed

banned as an extremist organisation according to the bllody bullshyt corperation

thats going to annoy the boys !

[oldrider]

Who actually was shooting at who?

<iframe width="640" height="350" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7waFEzDfS0M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[oldrider]

Syria: Evidence-Based Analysis Versus Mainstream Propaganda Narratives:- http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-evidence-based-analysis-versus-mainstream-propaganda-narratives/5586995 Quick read of some facts! :corn:

[Brian d marge]

Who actually was shooting at who?

<iframe width="640" height="350" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7waFEzDfS0M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Great song by acdc

Can't have an enquiry as the facts will come out and we can't have them spoiling da plan
Now if we distract u with nk , then we can sneak into Syria and all will be sweet
Just those pesky ruskies..

And that fker with the better weapons system than us



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[Banditbandit]

Syria: Evidence-Based Analysis Versus Mainstream Propaganda Narratives:- http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-evidence-based-analysis-versus-mainstream-propaganda-narratives/5586995 Quick read of some facts! :corn:

I would hardly call factual anything put out by a very right-wing group like Global Research ..

[oldrider]

I would hardly call factual anything put out by a very right-wing group like Global Research ..

Fair nough - do with it what you will - freedom of choice - one can respect that! :niceone:

[oldrider]

Assad interview with RT:- I found it interesting. :corn:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pdH4JKjVRyA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[oldrider]

US-led coalition strike against Syrian pro-govt forces ‘unlawful’ – Russia! https://www.rt.com/news/388888-us-strike-syria-forces/

Meanwhile the Western world media remains silent - as usual! - American duplicity in full swing on the war on terror! :corn:

[husaberg]

US-led coalition strike against Syrian pro-govt forces ‘unlawful’ – Russia! https://www.rt.com/news/388888-us-strike-syria-forces/

Meanwhile the Western world media remains silent - as usual! - American duplicity in full swing on the war on terror! :corn:


Apart from violating Syrian sovereignty, such strikes hamper international efforts to reach a political solution of the Syrian crisis, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov stated earlier on Friday.

So are the Russian bombings political solutions?
http://video.aljazeera.com/channels/eng/videos/deadly-russian-air-strike-hits-market-in-syrias-idlib/4636755102001

[oldrider]

So are the Russian bombings political solutions?
http://video.aljazeera.com/channels/eng/videos/deadly-russian-air-strike-hits-market-in-syrias-idlib/4636755102001

Exactly, no argument from me - Two wrongs don't make a right - all war is obnoxious and unnecessary!

Had Israel (ISIS) and America had kept their destabilising noses out of Syria and not created the proxy war non of them would be there!

[husaberg]

Exactly, no argument from me - Two wrongs don't make a right - all war is obnoxious and unnecessary!

Yet you never ever criticise Russia or Syrians attacks on civilians.

Had Israel (ISIS) and America had kept their destabilising noses out of Syria and not created the proxy war non of them would be there!

You suggesting Israel is ISIS, is just one more example that you are a senile old biggot.

[oldrider]

Yet you never ever criticise Russia or Syrians attacks on civilians.


You suggesting Israel is ISIS, is just one more example that you are a senile old biggot.

No need to criticise Russia they would not be there but for the behaviour and actions of Israel and America - but we are just repeating ourselves aren't we! :brick:

If you removed the log of wood from your own eye the evidence would become more obvious to even one as biased you! :rolleyes:

[husaberg]

No need to criticise Russia they would not be there but for the behaviour and actions of Israel and America - but we are just repeating ourselves aren't we! :brick:

If you removed the log of wood from your own eye the evidence would become more obvious to even one as biased you! :rolleyes:

Quoted just to display what a biggoted old fool you are.

[oldrider]

Quoted just to display what a biggoted old fool you are.

I prefer to leave that to other people to judge - and you don't count as people! :oi-grr:

[husaberg]

I prefer to leave that to other people to judge - and you don't count as people! :oi-grr:

You mean like the Jews..... you biggoted old fool
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRZG_sRU8AAQLr6.jpg
Maybe you should concentrate on finding your final own solution Joseph Goebbels

[Brian d marge]

You mean like the Jews..... you biggoted old fool

Maybe you should concentrate on finding your final own solution Joseph Goebbels

The british did that . , those poor souls were far too valuable working in the synthetic rubber plant , that produce no rubber but consumed as much electricity as Berlin!

but then the british had might on its right .

[oldrider]

You mean like the Jews..... you biggoted old fool

Maybe you should concentrate on finding your final own solution Joseph Goebbels

You are the one quoting the Holocaust stuff not me!

Perhaps you should make an appointment with a counsellor or Psychiatrist and get some help before it is too late! :shifty:

[husaberg]

You are the one quoting the Holocaust stuff not me!

Perhaps you should make an appointment with a counsellor or Psychiatrist and get some help before it is too late! :shifty:

Says the biggoted old fool who can't go a single day out posting a rant about how the jews run the world.

[oldrider]

Meanwhile back on topic:- US Lawmakers Appease Terrorists With New Sanctions on Syrian Allies - https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201705191053766337-us-syria-sanctions/ :confused:

[husaberg]

Meanwhile back on topic:- US Lawmakers Appease Terrorists With New Sanctions on Syrian Allies - https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201705191053766337-us-syria-sanctions/ :confused:

Your only topic is the Jews.


Seven countries independent of the USA Zionist federal reserve central banking system - Only North Korea, Syria and Iran left to go? :rolleyes:
:

No need to criticise Russia they would not be there but for the behaviour and actions of Israel and America - but we are just repeating ourselves aren't we! :brick:
:

This (plausible?) video clip should satisfy the lust but will it do anything for the proponents cause? - you be the judge! :corn:
American democracy at it's best? - Interesting! :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/xhQ31TSYWDo

Claims to answer that old chestnut - cui bono? (Who Benefits?)
Who actually does run America and the world? :scratch: Was the election actually necessary because apparently nothing has changed! :oi-grr:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/3xMkk359nd0

Israel Supreme Court? - Why would they bother if not totally relevant to them?:- https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-israel-supreme-court/ Interesting? - Absolutely! :corn:

Why they (Israel) want Trump to team up with the Russians!:- http://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-intelligence-minister-urges-us-to-team-up-with-russia-against-iran/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter :corn:
Meanwhile while we make these new arrangements - look over there at North Korea! - diversion? - (By deception make war?) :innocent:

Fmr CIA Officer Philip Giraldi: Israel is NOT an Ally of the United States! - You be the judge has Trump changed anything for the better? :scratch:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/6Cf2rPuxFjA
This speech was from a few years ago, but remains just as relevant today. Israel spies on us, buys off our politicians, and wages war on our country.

Apartheid in South Africa suffered world damnation - rightly so! :yes:
Apartheid in Israel? - almost world silence and even acceptance that Israel can do whatever it likes! :facepalm:
Well almost!:
UNSponsored Report On Israel’s Responsibility For Apartheid In Relation To The Palestinian People - [url]http://www.globalresearch.ca/un-sponsored-report-on-israels-responsibility-for-apartheid-in-relation-to-the-palestinian-:

[oldrider]

Says the biggoted old fool who can't go a single day out posting a rant about how the jews run the world.

Thank you - for confirming that I have at least one reader! - encouragement to be cherished. :wings:

[husaberg]

Thank you - for confirming that I have at least one reader! - encouragement to be cherished. :wings:
Don't limit your self to just posting racist crap on the internet, i urge you to say the same to all people in person
Why just limit yourself to one medium.
I am sure Lots of people would really appreciate you spewing racist crap to them in person.

[oldrider]

Meanwhile: This looks interesting! The Looming War Nobody Is Talking About:- http://theantimedia.org/war-israel-hezbollah-nobody-talking/

These wars it seems are never ending! :corn:

[husaberg]

Meanwhile: This looks interesting! The Looming War Nobody Is Talking About:- http://theantimedia.org/war-israel-hezbollah-nobody-talking/

These wars it seems are never ending! :corn:

Like i said don't limit your self to just posting racist crap on the internet, i urge you to say the same to all people in person
Why limit yourself to just one medium.
I am sure lots of people would really appreciate you spewing racist crap to them in person.

[mashman]

These wars it seems are never ending! :corn:

https://pics.onsizzle.com/the-war-is-not-meant-to-be-won-it-is-3142573.png

[Brian d marge]

https://pics.onsizzle.com/the-war-is-not-meant-to-be-won-it-is-3142573.png
Shhh otherwise you will have to borrow my tinfoil hat https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170520/6422a19f82f36caf2b8e838936b6db3c.jpg

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[mashman]

Shhh otherwise you will have to borrow my tinfoil hat

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S'ok. I went and got full metal jacket.

[Brian d marge]

S'ok. I went and got full metal jacket.
With leather?

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[mashman]

With leather?

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Only at the elbows and knees. Fur lined though. As comfortable as cognitive dissonance.

[oldrider]

Dozens of civilians, incl women & children, killed in US airstrikes in Syria – state media https://www.rt.com/news/389820-us-airstrike-syria-civilians-killed/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation :shifty:

[Katman]

Dozens of civilians, incl women & children, killed in US airstrikes in Syria – state media https://www.rt.com/news/389820-us-airstrike-syria-civilians-killed/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation :shifty:

But, but, but.......Manchester!

[oldrider]

Results of Russian Military Campaign In Syria: October 21, 2016 – May 26, 2017 http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/26/results-of-russian-military-campaign-in-syria-october-21-2016-may-26-2017/ - :corn: