Your Thoughts On This Story [Archive]

Akzle

15th February 2017, 20:01

Since when were they called "Safety Cameras"??

since fucken ages ago and it pisses me the fuck off. i was contemplating complaining to whichever jewvernment department deals with false advertising, since afaik, there's nothing safe about them. but then when i win (because i do) the cunt would have to spend more fucken tax dollars repainting the cunts.

ftp.

merv

15th February 2017, 20:02

Safety camera - :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

onearmedbandit

15th February 2017, 20:03

Discharged because it would have been disproportionate and cost him his job? Guess he should've thought of that before speeding, good lawyer's worth their weight huh.

bogan

15th February 2017, 20:03

BLP

15th February 2017, 20:04

Since when were they called "Safety Cameras"??
I've seen marked police vans with "traffic safety camera" on them. I assume they are the same as the unmarked speed camera vans? Rastus?

Never seen a fixed camera referred to as that, guess it's the new buzz phrase.

Akzle

15th February 2017, 20:07

http://www.tenone.police.govt.nz/tenone/February2017News3.htm

my thoughts? how many jew hours (cops, lawyers, judges, court staff etc etc et-fucken-cetera) did this cost the tax payer for a non-fucken event (discharge without conviction)???
i mean... this guy was more than 1/4/10km (safety depends on christmas party budget, or something) over the limit. consistently. AND NOONE FUCKING DIED

zomg10!!!1100!!

Akzle

15th February 2017, 20:10

"Laurence followed and recorded the bike going more than twice the speed limit on the hill. He pulled it over when it returned to a safer speed."

How fast was Laurence going without the disco lights on then?

well, obviously, he's a cop and solving the most heinous crime of exceding the posted limit. any means neccesary!! rules don't apply!

either he was strugling to keep up (sit the fuck down cassey), or enjoying the ride.

george formby

15th February 2017, 20:21

Lucky, lucky, lucky, bastard, to paraphrase a famous comedy scene.

Kinda cuts the legs of Mr AA's argument.

Mr ZX10 is not the brightest. Then again......:shifty:

Also nice to know that if you consistently take the piss you will be targeted. Fair's fair, I say.

caseye

15th February 2017, 20:34

Throw the fucking book at him, money bought his freedom. Not Right!
Eye Yam sitting down Arkselhead, lol.

pritch

15th February 2017, 20:43

If you are being even a bit naughty it doesn't pay to use the same route each day, but I guess he didn't have a lot of options in that regard.

Even so he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

JimO

15th February 2017, 20:55

safer communities together...always blow on the pie

mossy1200

15th February 2017, 20:58

Just a better work story to justify pointing cameras at the back of vehicles soon.

JimO

15th February 2017, 21:27

Just a better work story to justify pointing cameras at the back of vehicles soon.
or this is why motorbycylists need front plates

R650R

15th February 2017, 23:59

My thoughts... Ummm can i have that lawyers phone number, he must be good.

But "The offender was discharged without conviction after defence counsel argued disqualification would have been disproportionate and cost him his truck-driving job."

A classic example of the injustice system and enforcement failing to impact a credible result. I need my license for work too, one reason i moderate my speeds and frequency of ahem leaning on the limits is because i fully expect to lose licence for such mayhem.
Maybe he'done ACC rider trainign so it was all ok.....

It would be interesting to see the trial transcripts, perhaps there was an error in way evidence collected/presented that the discharge wa a saving of fface for prosecution team....

You'd think the police would be embarrased to release a story like this, not like it was CSI Kalimngrad level tech to investigate....
Have to laugh at 'sitting outside the offenders address'.... wouldnt it have been so much simpler to covertly wait in the pole camera location????? Nah that wouldnt be a better work story now.....
Classic example og govt dept doing things the hard way when there was an easier option.

eldog

16th February 2017, 02:21

Another case of, you should always check your mirrors.:innocent:

wainouiomata hill road, is an interesting piece of roading. What's it like in the wet?

esp the turn off toward Muritai

jasonu

16th February 2017, 02:25

Since when were they called "Safety Cameras"??

That is an alternative fact.

awayatc

16th February 2017, 04:58

On camera: 17 times

Crashed : 0 times

Very dangerous obviously at 4.30 in the morning....

I feel so much safer now ......

Voltaire

16th February 2017, 05:56

I wonder if he drives his truck over the limit too.

If he lived in Auckland I'd KB jump to the conclusion he is one of those trucks you see on the Southern Motorway in the outside lane tailgating doing 100 + , but sadly he lives in Wellington so I can't.

Nice to see the Police putting effort in where it counts.....

HenryDorsetCase

16th February 2017, 07:09

http://www.tenone.police.govt.nz/tenone/February2017News3.htm

God save the Queen, the fascist regime......

Mike.Gayner

16th February 2017, 07:13

Since when were they called "Safety Cameras"??

LOL!

Fucking NZ Police. Keep banging on this speed strategy, fellas, it's obviously working with our steadily increasing road toll. As ever, mighty fine work boys.

Drew

16th February 2017, 08:07

Heh, that dude in the picture (Shaun) is a mate of mone. Real good cunt

buggerit

16th February 2017, 09:51

A common as mud ride is most suited for commuting.
Rotate your jackets and helmets.
Traffic volume activated speed signs would be good.

R650R

16th February 2017, 10:13

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4228744/Motorist-blocked-speed-camera-boot-ticket-revenge.html

roogazza

16th February 2017, 11:06

Heh, that dude in the picture (Shaun) is a mate of mone. Real good cunt
Had a good lawyer too , how do they justify spending the time and money to target this fella?
The traffic cop now needs to get out and do some real Police work. (or maybe they have him in traffic cos he's fuckin useless for anything else. )
The amalgamation has done nothing for Police, that is for sure.
ps and another thing,how do these safety cameras trigger ?

Drew

16th February 2017, 11:26

Real good at speeding untill his luck ran out.

Had a good lawyer too , how do they justify spending the time and money to target this fella?
The traffic cop now needs to get out and do some real Police work. (or maybe they have him in traffic cos he's fuckin useless for anything else. )
The amalgamation has done nothing for Police, that is for sure.
ps and another thing,how do these safety cameras trigger ?

Nah. In the picture with the cop.

Dunno the guy on the 10.

pritch

16th February 2017, 11:53

You'd think the police would be embarrased to release a story like this,

The original post links to a Police in-house publication. The Police didn't release it, Rastus did.

Cassina, how did the guy's luck run out exactly? He got off. He'll have a lawyers bill and he'll have to slow for that camera in future, hardly the end of the world. Definitely not worth the effort to catch him.

HenryDorsetCase

16th February 2017, 12:23

The lawyers bill will likely be the same as a fine plus he would still be speeding past that camera today if he had not got caught. It did not run out if you mean he did not crash at the speed he was going if thats what you are thinking but maybe one day he will if he has not learnt anything from being caught.

he learned to slow down for the speed camera obvs.

Oh wait, do you think that velocity is dangerous in and of itself?

neels

16th February 2017, 12:34

Might not have been a conviction, but they've probably achieved the safety objective they were after, they no longer have a motorcyclist doing 130 in a 80 zone on a daily basis.

The lawyers bill was obviously worth it for keeping the drivers licence, and really just a fine with no demerits attached.

I wonder if a good lawyer could stretch some sort of reasonable doubt that it was the same person in the previous photos, and therefore the discharge without conviction was a less embarrassing outcome.

Hads

16th February 2017, 12:39

He was however followed while doing double the speed limit.

It is worth noting that was excessive speeding, lucky he didn't hit someone. Good police work catching the person with no regard for public safety. I personally aren't bothered by the odd bit of speeding when passing or even doing 10km/h over the speedlimit but excessive speeders are a menace.

Drew

16th February 2017, 12:44

Quite clearly says he was followed and then observed doing twice the speed limit. Radar would have picked him up as he sped away.

jasonu

16th February 2017, 13:40

Real good at speeding untill his luck ran out.

Apparently his luck hasn't run out.

Zedder

16th February 2017, 14:02

http://www.tenone.police.govt.nz/tenone/February2017News3.htm

He got off far too lightly and should be made to endure a one hour lecture on motorcycling by cassina.

Bald Eagle

16th February 2017, 14:04

He got off far too lightly and should be made to endure a one hour lecture on motorcycling by cassina.
Cruel and inhuman punishment that would be.

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Zedder

16th February 2017, 14:13

Cruel and inhuman punishment that would be.

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Perhaps the threat of a half hour lecture then.

caspernz

16th February 2017, 14:23

He got off far too lightly and should be made to endure a one hour lecture on motorcycling by cassina.

That might lead to a murder charge :confused:

Akzle

16th February 2017, 14:33

Cruel and inhuman punishment that would be.

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beat me to it!

plus that would probably have a negative impact on safety...

Zedder

16th February 2017, 14:36

That might lead to a murder charge :confused:

Nah, he'd be fine if he used the same lawyer again.

caseye

16th February 2017, 14:55

Nah, he'd be fine if he used the same lawyer again.

Long as he did the deed first, I'd not care one Iota.

HenryDorsetCase

16th February 2017, 15:12

jasonu

16th February 2017, 15:32

That might lead to a murder charge :confused:

Hopefully:niceone:

Berries

16th February 2017, 17:31

Classic.

The same bike regularly goes past the same speed camera at high speed at roughly the same time of day. Even the Red Hand Gang could have worked out how to catch that particular evil doer. If that warrants a full page story then the level of detective work in NZ must be pretty shithouse. Hey, at least they got a result. Oh, hang on.......

17 times before some action is taken is a bit lame as well if you want to be seen to be serious about road safety. If you believe all the hype then they should have been after him after three flashes. You could well imagine with your tin foil hat on that the main reason this story is there is to provide additional support from TPTB to the AA story the other week about bikes needing forward facing number plates.

Akzle

16th February 2017, 17:59

he learned to slow down for the speed camera obvs.

Oh wait, do you think that velocity is dangerous in and of itself?
don't evn start the fucken cunt.

He was however followed while doing double the speed limit.

It is worth noting that was excessive speeding, lucky he didn't hit someone. Good police work catching the person with no regard for public safety. I personally aren't bothered by the odd bit of speeding when passing or even doing 10km/h over the speedlimit but excessive speeders are a menace.

and who decides what's excessive? you? or a politician 30 years ago? go fuck yourself.
this guy had full regard for every cunt's safety. probably, his own foremost. why the fuck would you wrap youself in moo-skin and then hit shit at pace? let alone hit enough shit, at enough pace, to endanger public.
that would just be fucken silly.

Murray

16th February 2017, 19:26

I used to live in middle of Wainuiomata and work in Gracefield quickest I did it from home to work was 6 mins - that was when it was one lane each way 1/2 way down the Lower Hutt side. Traveling at before 6am a great race track but I could feel the pressure of riders trying to keep up!!!:facepalm::facepalm:

Ocean1

17th February 2017, 07:48

wainouiomata hill road, is an interesting piece of roading. What's it like in the wet?

Depends.
Hugely off camber every second corner, which is mildly dangerous for non-residents unaware of it.
More dangerous in the wet, as you guessed.
And positively lethal when Steve's filled up his truck at Seaview on the way home and sloshed a few litres all over the fucking hill.

But, y'know, a few million spent on enforcement now will more than make up for decades of incompetent roading design and commercial vehicle regulation.

Probably.

Akzle

17th February 2017, 09:28

But, y'know, a few million spent on enforcement now will more than make up for decades of incompetent roading design and commercial vehicle regulation.

Probably.

:Pokey: oh you cynic you.

pritch

17th February 2017, 10:48

You could well imagine with your tin foil hat on that the main reason this story is there is to provide additional support from TPTB to the AA story the other week about bikes needing forward facing number plates.

Again, that was the in-house Police magazine, they aren't talking to anybody but themselves. They certainly are not backing up the AA story, it was just supposed to be a feel good work story. Very few of the people for whom it was intended would be questioning the amount of effort that was expended for such a minimal result.

madbikeboy

17th February 2017, 17:28

You're all missing the most shocking part of this thread...

It turns out that there is an in-house police magazine. That means at least some of them must be able to read. They must be the smart ones reading the articles to the less fortunate amongst them.

:facepalm:

Berries

17th February 2017, 19:44

Again, that was the in-house Police magazine, they aren't talking to anybody but themselves.
And now the online motorcycle community due to a recently departed officer posting it and then taking a step back.

I think it is too much of a coincidence that the AA came out with their seemingly random press release about motorbikes and speed cameras and the need for frontal identification with no evidence presented in this story (http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/88287604/aa-calls-for-speed-camera-changes-to-stop-motorcyclists-having-free-ride) whatsoever at about the same time as Ten One was going to press. Clearly they went off on one because of this dude from Wainouiomata.

And that is what is really odd. I thought every male aged between 22 and 55 in Wainouiomata drove a white panel van with blacked out windows?

caspernz

18th February 2017, 19:06

Not sure how I feel about this story. Should it have been shared publicly? Probably not, for civilians don't get shop talk, most of the time. :Playnice:

Good job they nabbed the speeder. Then again, shame the outcome was poor. :oi-grr:

Maybe if one can keep an old big bike under control on the Wainui hill, at silly speeds no less, then the rider is doing something right. As well as wrong. :brick:

This would have ended in tears at some point one could venture. So is it really a waste of resources on the part of Police? :wacko:

pritch

18th February 2017, 19:38

This would have ended in tears at some point one could venture. So is it really a waste of resources on the part of Police? :wacko:

He was doing this before 5.00AM. Even in the greater Wellington area, traffic shouldn't be too bad at that hour? The road in the camera photo with the article doesn't look particularly challenging, dangerous, or busy. Four lanes ffs. (The implied expletives included only in the interests of alliteration. :whistle:)

It seems he was sometimes doing 130kph. OK it was an 80kph, area but there would be a lot of KBers for whom 130 would be just a normal cruising speed. People with small bikes may differ, but he had a ZX10, he'd need to be doing nearly 130 just to take the weight of his wrists.

In one respect he was lucky. If he was actually caught at 130kph in an 80kph area that'd be 50kph over the limit. instant walking territory. So he must have been busted doing rather less? Again, a lot of effort for not much.

Swoop

18th February 2017, 19:38

Isn't it reassuring to know that you now don't have to travel far to get a ticket, since the plod will come to your road...

You're all missing the most shocking part of this thread...

It turns out that there is an in-house police magazine. That means at least some of them must be able to read. They must be the smart ones reading the articles to the less fortunate amongst them.

:facepalm:
It's a cunning way to get the dot-to-dot puzzles and colouring in competitions around the stations.

HenryDorsetCase

18th February 2017, 19:48

Not sure how I feel about this story. Should it have been shared publicly? Probably not, for civilians don't get shop talk, most of the time. :Playnice:

Good job they nabbed the speeder. Then again, shame the outcome was poor. :oi-grr:

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Grow up. The link is to a publicly available website. There was not even minimal attempt to keep it in house.

I think the outcome was great because the unsung hero of that is the lawyer.

One of my colleagues got some fucktard off of a 160 in a 100 last week. No DQ either... just some velocity tax and a lawyer bill. Thats a feel-good work story right there.

HenryDorsetCase

18th February 2017, 19:49

He was doing this before 5.00AM. Even in the greater Wellington area, traffic shouldn't be too bad at that hour? The road in the camera photo with the article doesn't look particularly challenging, dangerous, or busy. Four lanes ffs. (The implied expletives included only in the interests of alliteration. :whistle:)

It seems he was sometimes doing 130kph. OK it was an 80kph, area but there would be a lot of KBers for whom 130 would be just a normal cruising speed. People with small bikes may differ, but he had a ZX10, he'd need to be doing nearly 130 just to take the weight of his wrists.

In one respect he was lucky. If he was actually caught at 130kph in an 80kph area that'd be 50kph over the limit. instant walking territory. So he must have been busted doing rather less? Again, a lot of effort for not much.

130 to 180 is a respectable motorway on ramp merge speed. All our motorways are autobahns - no speed limit.

Remember the immortal words of Kenny Roberts: the limit is in your head, son.

Grumph

18th February 2017, 19:57

130 to 180 is a respectable motorway on ramp merge speed. All our motorways are autobahns - no speed limit.

Remember the immortal words of Kenny Roberts: the limit is in your head, son.

I miss visiting riders who would give opinions on camera...Ron Grant was good. "Intersections are dangerous, you should always get across as fast as you can "....

caspernz

18th February 2017, 22:24

He was doing this before 5.00AM. Even in the greater Wellington area, traffic shouldn't be too bad at that hour? The road in the camera photo with the article doesn't look particularly challenging, dangerous, or busy. Four lanes ffs. (The implied expletives included only in the interests of alliteration. :whistle:)

It seems he was sometimes doing 130kph. OK it was an 80kph, area but there would be a lot of KBers for whom 130 would be just a normal cruising speed. People with small bikes may differ, but he had a ZX10, he'd need to be doing nearly 130 just to take the weight of his wrists.

In one respect he was lucky. If he was actually caught at 130kph in an 80kph area that'd be 50kph over the limit. instant walking territory. So he must have been busted doing rather less? Again, a lot of effort for not much.

The Wainui hill is indeed four lanes, parts of it nice and straight, parts of it rather dodgy in the sense of varying radius turns, off camber shit and all. Plenty of prangs on that bit of road. Opinions differ on how the boys in blue dealt with it. I for one have no issue with it.

rastuscat

19th February 2017, 20:20

The original post links to a Police in-house publication. The Police didn't release it, Rastus did

I didn't. Police released it in their publicly available magazine, Ten One. It's no secret.

rastuscat

19th February 2017, 20:22