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Becki94
28th June 2017, 16:18
Okay, totally new here 😅 so have no idea if this is the right place to post.
Bought myself an ole ZG1000 (Concours, but this one has a prettier face) the other day and have spent a few hours trying to get her going. Have reached the stage where we're turning over and almost catching but not quite. I've put a new battery in, drained carbs, cleaned tank, and have got it to the stage of almost starting but not quite...

Have a feeling it's plug related (or carb related?) however Air NZ wouldn't let me bring my tools down so I'm stuck without the right size plug socket and am scratching my head a little over this one. Anyone in Chch keen to come give me a hand? I'm in Springston atm and will be here till tomorrow evening. Would be eternally grateful!

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 16:46
I'm roughly 20mins away and could come have a look tomorrow for you.
With what you've done so far you're best to have a new set of plugs on hand ready to be fitted

The plugs you need are DR8ES

Honest Andy
28th June 2017, 17:31
This works on an old bike I had, take all the plugs out and spray some CRC or similar engine start down the plug holes.

don't be bloody stupid, they're way past that kind of nonsense

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 18:02
I was bright enough to suggest a possible solution to poster 1's problem. You are just jealous or frightened of being ridiculed to think of a possible solution yourself.

Yet again you make yourself look as you are..... STUPID :laugh:

They aren't even able to get the plugs out :no: plus spraying that shit straight in the cylinders is the perfect way to fuck bores :facepalm:


And to the OP if it's a creamy white GTR :shutup: I worked the bugger plenty of times a few years back...it was always coming into the shop for one thing or another ....

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 18:25
If the fact they could not get the plugs out was their only problem I would not have posted now would I?. I said that spraying CRC into the bores "WORKED" and the reason why it would work would be if there is corrosion on the bores. CRC is promoted to free corroded parts did you know. Why strip a motor down if a spray of CRC could get it going. At least as I said I am bright enough to post ideas unlike you and the other poster with your smart arse attacks on me showing how not very bright you both are.

Just shut your trap and do everyone a favour and PISS OFF

bogan
28th June 2017, 18:26
If the fact they could not get the plugs out was their only problem I would not have posted now would I?. I said that spraying CRC into the bores "WORKED" and the reason why it would work would be if there is corrosion on the bores. CRC is promoted to free corroded parts did you know. Why strip a motor down if a spray of CRC could get it going. At least as I said I am bright enough to post ideas unlike you and the other poster with your smart arse attacks on me showing how not very bright you both are.

Fuck no.

The reason why it would work is the butane propellant's lower ignition point allowing a weak spark or flooded plug to induce combustion. The CRC itself will only contribute to bore washing and damage the engine. Ether type starter cans are designed for this very purpose, and can be squirted into the airbox too; a far better option than some cassina-special thudfuckery.

bogan
28th June 2017, 19:07
We both agree what I said works though don't we? If you are worried about engine damage it is really no different to the "damage" that is done when you do an oil change and there is a delay before all the oil circulates. The bike that I did this to is still running 10 years after I sold it which really rubbishes your and the others theory of any engine damage.

Fuck no.

An oil change does not remove the oil from the rings like a bore washing solvent does. 10 years is fuck all, well maintained bikes will easily smash out 30.

Akzle
28th June 2017, 19:12
incase it hasn't been made abundantly clear, repeatedly: c*ssina is a fuckwit.

carb tune is on the list. new plugs rule out 4 problems you may otherwise have. i'm picking pilot jet setting and /or worn main seats.

pistons are alloy. rings are steel. if it's "almost starting" it's not "seized" - not to say it hasn't been and you've now gouged the fuck out of the bores, but it's a long way down the list of likely.

again, just to be clear, c*ssina is a fucking moron.

Grumph
28th June 2017, 19:24
incase it hasn't been made abundantly clear, repeatedly: c*ssina is a fuckwit.

again, just to be clear, c*ssina is a fucking moron.

Without the brains to keep his/its trap shut....

TWR - take a can of Start Ya Bastard along too.

russd7
28th June 2017, 19:25
could try new leads as well, a bike that old quite possibly has never had new leads and it can be surprising what new leads will fix, and some ether in the airbox could help as well

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 19:35
Without the brains to keep his/its trap shut....

TWR - take a can of Start Ya Bastard along too.

I doubt we'll hear from the OP again.
I'm picking it was the white bugger that used to frequent the shop....It's got a huge amount of kms on it if it is; it was on it's third lap when I last serviced it 9yrs ago

The cock polisher ruined another thread and made it about himself...

bogan
28th June 2017, 19:36
This is what CRC 556 does if you have never heard of it and note at the top it states it lubricates as well.

CRC 5-56

Advance Lubrication
Stops squeaks
Stops corrosion
Attacks rusted parts
Displaces Moisture
Cleans tar off vehicles

Astroglide lubricates as well, I suggest you apply liberally and slide your arse the fuck out of technical threads.

Grumph
28th June 2017, 19:40
When one of the gpz900/ZX10/Concours family gets hard to start, they're getting pretty fucked. As std they have short cams and plenty of valve area so a good cranking vacuum on the carbs...
maybe the OP will need a supply of Starter cans for their NZ tour....

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 19:58
You and a few others are just jealous that you are not mentally retarded yourselves. I dont give a fuck what you think but unlike you and a few others I have lubed my cock & pulled myself to a stand-still and it works. as stated from the CRC spec sheet I posted it does have lubricting properties despite what you lot think.

The cassina narcissistic idiot spec sheet

bogan
28th June 2017, 20:01
You and a few others are just jealous that you are not technically minded yourselves. I dont give a fuck what you think but unlike you and a few others I have done this and it works. Even another poster said it could and as stated from the CRC spec sheet I posted it does have lubricting properties despite what you lot think.

Did you just call Grumph not technically minded? good lord, you have no fucking idea do you :laugh:

Also, where the mods at? this shit should have gone to PD a while back...

Katman
28th June 2017, 20:04
Did you just call Grumph not technically minded? good lord, you have no fucking idea do you

Except she actually didn't though, did she?

Becki94
28th June 2017, 20:09
I've tried with Start Ya bastard, gets so close to starting but just no cigar. Thinking it's plugs but can't be sure without getting to them unfortunately! And nope it's not a white one, she's a red one with a facelift, and only done 18k km but has been sitting and occasionally started over the years. :) just a pain in the ass without the right tools!

FJRider
28th June 2017, 20:19
Yet again you make yourself look as you are..... STUPID :laugh:

They aren't even able to get the plugs out :no: plus spraying that shit straight in the cylinders is the perfect way to fuck bores :facepalm:


And to the OP if it's a creamy white GTR :shutup: I worked the bugger plenty of times a few years back...it was always coming into the shop for one thing or another ....

Was "one thing or another"... ever an air filter .. ??? I'd be looking at that.

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 20:22
Wow you fuckwit think I made it up? Go and look the specs up before you make any more of a dick of yourself rubbishing them.

Absolutely no rubbishing CRC at all....just directly aimed at you, you completely prove every time you know sweet FA.
5.56 CRC is a lubricant for slow moving pivoting parts etc and definitely not for lubricating an internal combustion engine.

Honestly give a real laugh....what's your trade??

bogan
28th June 2017, 20:24
I would have no idea if that poster is technically minded or not for the simple reason I have never met them. So there is no need to be a smart arse about it just because you have.

You haven't met me though, and I haven't met him either...


Except she actually didn't though, did she?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AjkRka4GpPc/TpxkayjNGbI/AAAAAAAAAGc/7XtjQ2bduEM/s640/fan+club.jpg

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 20:29
Was "one thing or another"... ever an air filter .. ??? I'd be looking at that.

ha 1st time it came into the shop was just a basic top to bottom service, 2nd time was service, wof which included fork seals plus some minor bits n pieces. 3rd time valve seals & couple of other bits, and the 4th time I saw it was another full service :yes:
That was 8yrs or so back so god knows what treatment it's had since then

robajs
28th June 2017, 20:30
try larger than normal throttle opening with starting fluid as these fluids seem to like way more air to work well.
also the kms on the bike may be more than on the odo so the starter motor may be worn and drawing
too much power. have you tried the good old push start with a dose of starting fluid?

FJRider
28th June 2017, 20:42
I was bright enough to suggest a possible solution to poster 1's problem. You are just jealous or frightened of being ridiculed to think of a possible solution yourself.

State exactly what actual issue would the CRC spayed down the bore fix ..... ?????????

You listed a number of uses for the product. Which one of those uses be the probable issue on the bike .. ???

A rusty bore maybe ... ??? :devil2:

CRC dispels water ... leaking head gasket maybe ... ?? might need more than one can for that.

The OP didn't say it was squeaking ... so that's out. And I doubt if there's much tar in the bore ...

And I can't imagine lubrication (lack of) is the issue.



If being "Technically minded" ... means spraying CRC 5.56 everywhere ... :killingme

FJRider
28th June 2017, 20:46
ha 1st time it came into the shop was just a basic top to bottom service, 2nd time was service, wof which included fork seals plus some minor bits n pieces. 3rd time valve seals & couple of other bits, and the 4th time I saw it was another full service :yes:
That was 8yrs or so back so god knows what treatment it's had since then

Through (bitter) experience ... it's the lack of treatment that does the damage ... :whistle:

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 20:54
Through (bitter) experience ... it's the lack of treatment that does the damage ... :whistle:

Well the OP has said it isn't the white bugger that lived in DC-town so that's solved that :msn-wink:

But in context of the white one.....it was 230000km plus & counting when I saw it last so 8yrs later it's probably done it's dash anyhow. The owner wasn't anywhere near mechanically minded either but knew full well no fiddle with things he didn't understand.

bogan
28th June 2017, 20:58
Where did I say CRC was a replacement for engine oil or petrol for that matter? Poster 1 has just said he has tried Start Ya Bastard which means according to some of you he has stuffed his motor and I am just saying engine start (CRC in my case) does not stuff motors if used to start them only but sure it would if you used it as a petrol or oil replacement.


Fuck no.

Start Ya Bastard is Ether based, and will not damage an engine with normal use. Nobody here has said that will damage an engine when used correctly.



I am not in the motor trade but come from an electrical background although not an electrician. Hope you get a laugh from me having an electrical and not a background as a motor mechanic.

http://orig14.deviantart.net/d7b7/f/2012/305/1/3/frankenstein_by_guang2222-d5jnrqp.jpg

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 21:04
Where did I say CRC was a replacement for engine oil or petrol for that matter? Poster 1 has just said he has tried Start Ya Bastard which means according to some of you he has stuffed his motor and I am just saying engine start (CRC in my case) does not stuff motors if used to start them only but sure it would if you used it as a petrol or oil replacement.

I am not in the motor trade but come from an electrical background although not an electrician. Hope you get a laugh from me having an electrical and not a background as a motor mechanic.

FFS you're so thick you don't even realise what you did with your magic can when you say you got this imaginary bike of you had started on all cylinders with it :laugh:

Spraying the likes of start ya bastard directly into cylinders will & does act like a severe detergent in the combustion chamber....it pools in the lowest point of the chamber, washes the bore & rings in that area and causes blow-by, next thing there's scoring in that area...continued act of doing this with fuck the bores quick smart.
It's meant to be used externally to the intake tracts of the airbox or pre-cleaner etc


meter reader huh :laugh:

FJRider
28th June 2017, 21:08
With my bike that had little use and was left outside the CRC would have removed any mild corrosion and condensation.

I'm sure there was little corrosion or condensation inside the engine of your bike ... but ... I asked what issue you would hope to fix in the OP's bike ... by spraying it down the bore .. ???

Becki94
28th June 2017, 21:25
She's done genuine low kms luckily, just hoping the rings etc haven't perished from sitting too long! If I can't sort it tomorrow I'll try mail my compression tester down along with my sockets to pull the plugs and go from there. Really hoping replacing them will just do the trick...

T.W.R
28th June 2017, 21:28
Funny that a poster has just said Start Ya Bastard
will not harm motors only CRC will due to the different chemical compounds in each. I say again the bike would not be going 10 years later if what you say is true. I only give each cylinder that needs it about a 5 sec squirt and not fill the cylinders up with it if you and others think that.

:killingme 5secs of spraying that shit into a confined area will leave an amount close to a tablespoon full of liquid :clap:

The only way you got away with getting that engine started doing that with CRC was you were temporarily upping the compression :lol: just the same principle as squirting some oil in the bores for a leakdown or compression test.

for a wee experiment for yourself on a flat surface pour two wee amounts of oil, on the 1st spray some start ya bastard or engine start and on the 2nd spray some 5.56...take note of what happens to both, then imagine what happens when a more concentrated amount of each does to a very fine film of oil on a hardened surface

Madness
28th June 2017, 21:32
I just saw Becky's post on Bookface and all I can say is that if I were within 100km I'd be there within the hour.

If not sooner.

Seriously.

Katman
28th June 2017, 21:35
I just saw Becky's post on Bookface and all I can say is that if I were within 100km I'd be there within the hour.

If not sooner.

Seriously.

Husaberk in 3...2...1...

AllanB
28th June 2017, 21:39
I think you are on the right track with replacing the plugs. New ones and varoomm

AllanB
28th June 2017, 21:42
Hey - I presume that you put fresh fuel in the tank after cleaning it and not the original old stuff?

If it's the old fuel, drain it and replace it. Fuel has a short shelf life now. I had a 80's Kawa years back that I'd not ridden for six months, similar symptoms to what you describe - I spent a morning farting around trying to get it going - changed the fuel and it started first push of the button.

FJRider
28th June 2017, 21:43
I just saw Becky's post on Bookface and all I can say is that if I were within 100km I'd be there within the hour.

If not sooner.

Seriously.

Post a link ... :innocent:

OddDuck
28th June 2017, 23:06
Hi Becki,

+1 on what a few of the others have said, plus my contribution...

- fresh spark plugs
- fresh petrol
- battery fully charged
- check HT leads against perishing, dodgy contacts etc
- check starter motor is tight in crankcase *
- check starter motor cables are still good
- check grounds to frame and motor are still good and not oxidised
- turn headlights off while starting
- find and purchase can of CRC 2.26 (the electrical contact cleaner), use this on the CDI's connectors, make and break these connectors a few times **
- put the bike out into sunshine for about 30 minutes prior to first start attempt, or get it warmed up a bit somehow. Warm helps.

* Starter really struggles to get engine turned over, makes horrible noises while doing so. My Ducati was like this for about a year (please don't laugh), I just thought big V-twins were beasts to start and this sort of struggling to turn over was normal. Turns out that the starter motor's ground connection was through the crankcase, if it isn't tight then that's a high electrical resistance at roughly 50 amps and trouble follows.

** The CRC 2.26 worked wonders on my CDI connectors just a couple of weeks ago, if there's a chance of corrosion / oil / dirt on the 12V side then this could torpedo your starting endeavors even if everything else is peachy.

*** ignore Cassina.

Anyway good luck and let us know how it goes.

Akzle
28th June 2017, 23:55
Funny that a poster has just said Start Ya Bastard
will not harm motors only CRC will due to the different chemical compounds in each. I say again the bike would not be going 10 years later if what you say is true. I only give each cylinder that needs it about a 5 sec squirt and not fill the cylinders up with it if you and others think that.

jesus. fucking.fuck.

how is it not possible this douche can't be ban hammored? troll or no, when you endanger peoples faces surely that's cause to kick it to the kerb??? i demand the higher-ups review this asshole! review it right the fuck into BANd camp.

Tazz
29th June 2017, 00:04
Ask at the dairy who in the hood is most likely to have tools, or wander towards the Springston pub and ask the dudes in the truck yard just before it.

There's also a garage in Lincoln, and maybe still a hammer hardware? Call the Lincoln garage before walkin, some dudes don't lend tools even if you leave something valuable to guarantee their return.

Grumph
29th June 2017, 07:03
If TWR doesn't turn up - he's a good bugger so probably will - ask anyone in Springston how to find Brian Humm.

Hummy's a legend.

Grumph
29th June 2017, 07:07
I am not in the motor trade but come from an electrical background although not an electrician. Hope you get a laugh from me having an electrical and not a background as a motor mechanic.

Do you work for an electrical wholesaler ?

Honest Andy
29th June 2017, 07:17
Do you work for an electrical wholesaler ?

Haha that's what I wondered :killingme
Or maybe on a production line soldering something...
Obviously only part time :bleh:

Laava
29th June 2017, 07:18
Do you work for an electrical wholesaler ?

Crash test dummy?

SVboy
29th June 2017, 07:23
jesus. fucking.fuck.

how is it not possible this douche can't be ban hammored? troll or no, when you endanger peoples faces surely that's cause to kick it to the kerb??? i demand the higher-ups review this asshole! review it right the fuck into BANd camp.
With respect to the OP, is this possibly the most ironic post on KB, ever?

Honest Andy
29th June 2017, 07:32
Crash test dummy?

one of the faulty ones :thud:

:killingme

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 10:03
If TWR doesn't turn up - he's a good bugger so probably will - ask anyone in Springston how to find Brian Humm.

Hummy's a legend.

The OP has my number so the ball is in their court :yes:
Plus starting to wonder if they actually decided to use the factory supplied plug socket supplied in the factory tool kit ;) being such a low km bike and all


Do you work for an electrical wholesaler ?


Haha that's what I wondered :killingme
Or maybe on a production line soldering something...
Obviously only part time :bleh:


Crash test dummy?

I think I hit it on the nail saying meter reader when it responded to my question :whistle:

ellipsis
29th June 2017, 13:22
With respect to the OP, is this possibly the most ironic post on KB, ever?


...sorry but Ax is completely above board and lucid compared to this moronic, petulant, fucked in the brain, mentally and socially, twat...it's even too fucking dumb and thick to be a troll...way past being entertaining...

pritch
29th June 2017, 13:35
You and a few others are just jealous that you are not technically minded yourselves. I dont give a fuck what you think but unlike you and a few others I have done this and it works. Even another poster said it could and as stated from the CRC spec sheet I posted it does have lubricting properties despite what you lot think.

Sometimes I almost feel sorry for you - almost. But you do ask for what you get.

The CRC 556 is not the product you use to start recalcitrant engines. The stuff that you do use for that does not have lubricating qualities.

Carry on...

EJK
29th June 2017, 13:44
You and a few others are just jealous that you are not technically minded yourselves. I dont give a fuck what you think but unlike you and a few others I have done this and it works. Even another poster said it could and as stated from the CRC spec sheet I posted it does have lubricting properties despite what you lot think.

There is this annoying cunt on Facebook that goes on posting shit advices on both motorcycle and photography groups. I hope that's not you? Luckily Facebook has this amazing block feature which completely makes the blocked user invisible on my feed.

Asher
29th June 2017, 14:47
If the OP still needs help I can swing past on Saturday morning with my tools.

SVboy
29th June 2017, 14:55
If the OP still needs help I can swing past on Saturday morning with my tools.

Make sure you have some CRC in your box!!!:facepalm:

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 16:02
NO CANS OF START YA BASTARD, ENGINE START, NOR 5.56 WERE HARMED OR CASSINARISED IN THIS EVENT :no:

Fresh set of plugs and she farted & coughed her way into life :niceone:
One happy lass with a running bike and plans for a adventure back up north

granstar
29th June 2017, 16:54
could try new leads as well, a bike that old quite possibly has never had new leads and it can be surprising what new leads will fix, and some ether in the airbox could help as well

Include plug caps

CRC in plug holes :eek5:

Honest Andy
29th June 2017, 17:42
NO CANS OF START YA BASTARD, ENGINE START, NOR 5.56 WERE HARMED OR CASSINARISED IN THIS EVENT :no:

Fresh set of plugs and she farted & coughed her way into life :niceone:
One happy lass with a running bike and plans for a adventure back up north

Nice work.
Bit disappointed that you didn't use any crc, couldn't you have lubed the side-stand or something...?

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 17:52
Nice work.
Bit disappointed that you didn't use any crc, couldn't you have lubed the side-stand or something...?

:innocent: doesn't mean WD40 or PB Blaster wasn't used :lol:
Nah didn't even hint at needing anything like it....apart form having a lung full of un-burnt fuel & some dodgy as buggery plugs nothing else really looked suspect ;)
Pointed out the carbs really could do with a strip n clean etc and a couple of other things need some attention....but nothing major in reality.

She's a happy girl winging her way back upto Aucks tonight and planning on a return in a week or two to do some more then going hussle the GTR back up Nth

FJRider
29th June 2017, 18:59
NO CANS OF START YA BASTARD, ENGINE START, NOR 5.56 WERE HARMED OR CASSINARISED IN THIS EVENT :no:

Fresh set of plugs and she farted & coughed her way into life :niceone:
One happy lass with a running bike and plans for a adventure back up north

North of Christchurch ...????? Silly girl .... the best roads are down south ... :innocent:

Swoop
29th June 2017, 19:10
If you,read the breif spec sheet I posted it says CRC does have lubricating qualities Irrespective of what you and the others believe it did work and even one poster who did not think it would conceded it might. The motor did not crap out despite what you and others may think. Maybe because it was a Honda.

Does your brain physically hurt, being this retarded?
Shut the fuck up and allow those with actual knowledge to get involved, and keep your opinion to yourself.

OddDuck
29th June 2017, 19:12
CASSINARISED

bwhahahahaha sounds about right

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 19:21
North of Christchurch ...????? Silly girl .... the best roads are down south ... :innocent:

:nono: West young fella west :msn-wink:



Wondering were tweedle-dumb's posted spec sheet is and how it's google research is going too :rolleyes:
posting selected words doesn't cut it especially off a 3-5 page PDF :msn-wink:
grasping at lubrication qualities is interesting......next thing it'll run with the SG rating being only just below oil too :laugh:

Swoop
29th June 2017, 19:25
... I said it worked with no engine damage.

How did you ascertain that NO damage occurred from what you did? Just a wild guess about the consequences of your actions?

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 19:31
Remind anyone of anything or what they feel like doing :innocent:

http://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif

Tazz
29th June 2017, 19:34
Nice one T.W.R.

If you spray CRC 5.56 into a cup it becomes liquid.
Water is liquid.
You can drink water, hmm...hey Cassina! I have an idea for something you can try and gain some knowledge from...:laugh:

Grumph
29th June 2017, 19:38
Wondering were tweedle-dumb's posted spec sheet is and how it's google research is going too :rolleyes:
posting selected words doesn't cut it especially off a 3-5 page PDF :msn-wink:
grasping at lubrication qualities is interesting......next thing it'll run with the SG rating being only just below oil too :laugh:

I had a customer some years back who must have known the young Cassina. "Someone" told him it was a good idea to rinse out his engine between oil changes by putting kero in the sump and firing it up briefly....
That was the first FZR1000 that I had to align hone the cam bearings. Funnily enough I've had to do two more of the bastard things since.

Honest Andy
29th June 2017, 19:58
As I said the bike is still running 10 years later. Poster 1 has said he used engine start too so his motor would have damage also according to some of you. Something to think about is engine start would be taken off the market if it damaged motors now wouldnt it.

:psst:Psssst: Engine start is mostly ether, CRC is mostly kerosene. Different products with different uses. Look a bit closer at your spec sheets and go back to my original reply on page 1...

fufuksake

Honest Andy
29th June 2017, 20:00
Remind anyone of anything or what they feel like doing :innocent:

http://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif

Hmmm, let me think....

My goodness, doesn't that horse look clever. By comparison.

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 20:01
Hmmm, let me think....

My goodness, doesn't that horse look clever. By comparison.

It's definitely keeping it's trap shut :lol:

Swoop
29th June 2017, 20:21
It's definitely keeping it's trap shut :lol:

It is a very wise horse.

nzspokes
29th June 2017, 20:22
From the website Wikipedia

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha:laugh:

You are a Wiki injuneer..............

Honest Andy
29th June 2017, 20:26
If CRC 556 is that much of a different product you would think it would NOT start an engine. If you read one of the previous posts from a non believer like yourself they conceded it might and he gave a technical reason why.

a technical reason that you clearly did not understand...

fuckryingoutloud

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 20:30
If CRC 556 is that much of a different product you would think it would NOT start an engine. If you read one of the previous posts from a non believer like yourself they conceded it might and he gave a technical reason why.

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Rick.and_.Morty-Headshot.gif

buggerit
29th June 2017, 20:32
If CRC 556 is that much of a different product you would think it would NOT start an engine. If you read one of the previous posts from a non believer like yourself they conceded it might and he gave a technical reason why.

Its the propellant that ignites, hair spray will do the same.

bogan
29th June 2017, 20:37
Its the propellant that ignites, hair spray will do the same.

Hair spray was one of the better ones we found in our spud gun escapades, far better than ether based starter sprays. May be an oxidiser compound in there or something.

FJRider
29th June 2017, 20:40
How thick are you I wonder as I said it worked with no engine damage. You gain knowledge by trying things and if it works the knowledge is gained. As I said before another poster who did not think it would work conceded it might. Go and read their post as they gave a technical reason why it might work. Then you can call them a retard too.

The OP tried easy-start. It didn't start. The OP fitted new plugs. It did start.

Conclusion ... CRC 5.56 would not have made it start.

FJRider
29th June 2017, 20:41
Hair spray was one of the better ones we found in our spud gun escapades, far better than ether based starter sprays. May be an oxidiser compound in there or something.

I use Raid fly spray ... :shifty:

FJRider
29th June 2017, 20:54
If CRC 556 is that much of a different product you would think it would NOT start an engine. If you read one of the previous posts from a non believer like yourself they conceded it might and he gave a technical reason why.

As has been stated before ... the reason CRC helps start an engine is not necessarily due to the combustible factor of the fluid.

T.W.R
29th June 2017, 21:11
It as I said could also be due to its property of freeing up mildly corroded parts.

:killingme FUCKIN POSTS HAVE BEEN MOVED AGAIN LADS...HE'S GRASPING AT MORE STRAWS :wacko:

AllanB
29th June 2017, 21:48
The one thing common with my bike was that his got infrequent use too. It was quite a few posts after his first one he said he had tried engine start which I was not to know from his first post. I have also posted other ideas he could try like checking the spark plugs spark out of the engine and do a compression test which I think in a later post he said he is going to do.

Have you tried this stuff - it ignites.

https://www.herbalignite.com/shop/Herbal+Ignite/Herbal+Ignite+Shop++Purchase+online+in+New+Zealand/Ignite+Intimate+Gel.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwytLKBRCX547 gve7EsE4SJAD3IZV6vZNPE3R3KdUgGsKMyMqKZqk56zKjOltat 751SzGDIxoCqkLw_wcB

onearmedbandit
29th June 2017, 23:34
The one thing common with my bike was that his got infrequent use too. It was quite a few posts after his first one he said he had tried engine start which I was not to know from his first post. I have also posted other ideas he could try like checking the spark plugs spark out of the engine and do a compression test which I think in a later post he said he is going to do.

How's those observation skills working out for you? Not too well I'm guessing...

caspernz
30th June 2017, 09:38
How's those observation skills working out for you? Not too well I'm guessing...

No point talking to anyone about IPSGA when they stumble at the I phase me thinks...

eldog
30th June 2017, 17:46
From the website Wikipedia Note they only say it can damage diesel engines and also note the sparkplug hole CAN be used to apply the engine start.

Four stroke engines[edit]
Starting fluid is sprayed into the engine intake near the air filter, or into the carburetor bore or a spark plug hole of an engine to get added fuel to the combustion cylinder quickly. Using starting fluid to get the engine running faster avoids wear to starters and fatigue to one's arm with pull start engines, especially on rarely used machines.


rarely used pull start machines... that's why I cant start mine.

I rarely use the pull start.:mobile:or is it not a diesel, that's what I put in the tank its cheaper............
Four good strokes usually does it - gets her going, that is.


have been looking out for some

Stop Ya Bastard, have needed it a few times, but like sky hooks I have yet to find one.

FJRider
30th June 2017, 19:08
I have also posted other ideas he could try like checking the spark plugs spark out of the engine and do a compression test which I think in a later post he said he is going to do.

Initially ... the item missing from HER available tools was a plug spanner ...

Akzle
30th June 2017, 19:40
Hair spray was one of the better ones we found in our spud gun escapades, far better than ether based starter sprays. May be an oxidiser compound in there or something.
hairspray and a bbq lighter? pah!


lpg and a sparkplug you poofter.