Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

[Moi]

Okay, I know that a few of you drive heavy vehicles for a living - petrol tankers, cement trucks and so on. So this question is for you, in light of the repeated comment that your vehicles have blind spots.

If you are parked at the side of the road in your heavy vehicle - such as a bus would be at a bus stop - and I am approaching your vehicle from the rear and I can see your mirror[s] on the right hand side, would you see me provided you did more than a quick glance in your mirror?

[caseye]

If you don''t reply to IT, it will die on the vine.
Having said that, IT will not be allowed to continue spouting dangerous and seriously bad opinion or fake facts for much longer, if we could all just literally not reply, even if it means biting everything off and sitting on your hands.

[EJK]

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think as I remember a few weeks ago I posted that I would not be on here for a few days and I got replys from some saying they would miss me or words to that effect. Maybe because they would get bored with no one to debate with for a few days as I am the only one brave enough to enter into debate on this site.

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[Akzle]

It's time to do something Cassina. Will you step up to the plate and take that challenge? Call Dave now. He's been at the Burt Monro for the last few days so he'll be in a good mood.
good call on ignoring the twit. i've offered to PAY to have his riding assessed, but no. all bullshit and no backbone.



say they can prevent you from coming to grief as a result of the actions of others
quote it. once. quote where one person has ever said that.

YOU FUCKWIT.



Okay, I know that a few of you drive heavy vehicles for a living - petrol tankers, cement trucks and so on. So this question is for you, in light of the repeated comment that your vehicles have blind spots.

If you are parked at the side of the road in your heavy vehicle - such as a bus would be at a bus stop - and I am approaching your vehicle from the rear and I can see your mirror[s] on the right hand side, would you see me provided you did more than a quick glance in your mirror?

yes. but also, "more than quick glance" - look and watch, few seconds. but also, headchecks.

[Akzle]

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think as I remember a few weeks ago I posted that I would not be on here for a few days and I got replys from some saying they would miss me or words to that effect. Maybe because they would get bored with no one to debate with for a few days as I am the only one brave enough to enter into debate on this site.

no-one is "debating" with you fuckwit. they're telling you you're wrong. because you are. and you're a massive fuckwit.

[pritch]

No I do not need a lesson from a riding school because in a situation where another party is at fault it is them and not you that controls the speed and distance they are from you when they screw up and it comes down to luck as to whether they give you any time to avoid them or not.

If there is to be a crash it will be the result of the actions of everybody involved. You can't control anyone else's actions, you can only control your own, but you can allow for the actions of others. Most times that won't involve speeding up.

Only somewhat relevant, but I was riding my AJS to work one day in bumper to bumper traffic. The face of a guy standing at a bus stop lit up in recognition at a driver of one of the cars. I hit the brakes and pulled in to the curb. If nothing had happened I might have looked a bit silly, but the driver who recognised the guy in the bus stop jammed his brakes on and there was a multiple car pile up beside where I was sitting. But for my reaction I would have been in the middle of that.

I could have ignored the "at fault" parties, but the fact that I didn't may have contributed to the fact that I didn't spend the last 57 years in a wheel chair.

[Woodman]

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think as I remember a few weeks ago I posted that I would not be on here for a few days and I got replys from some saying they would miss me or words to that effect. Maybe because they would get bored with no one to debate with for a few days as I am the only one brave enough to enter into debate on this site.

Um only for the entertainment value.

[Akzle]

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.

you're a fuckwit.

[Akzle]

There would be pros and cons doing that too as I have heard/read stories over the years where guys take their eye off the road to look at a hot chick (as an example) standing on the footpath and end up rear ending the car in front. If following a motorbike in my car I always allow a longer following distance because some can go down "out of the blue" and that actually happened when I was following one. I did not need to emergency brake because of the extra following distance I had allowed.

you're a fuckwit

[Swoop]

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.
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[EJK]

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.

Preach it, Keith!

[nzspokes]

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think

Google Stockholm Syndrome.

[crack]

no-one is "debating" with you fuckwit. they're telling you you're wrong. because you are. and you're a massive fuckwit.

Akzle, to rear end Cassina, she may see you coming in her mirror, but if you approach quick in her blind spot!:headbang::headbang::blank:

[crack]

you're a fuckwit.

No logic and no fooking sense:

Akzle can sort you out.

[nzspokes]

Tell you what. Give David Keilty a ring. His phone number is 021 168 6320. He is the man in charge of the RideForever system in New Zealand. Tell him Simon Gotlieb suggested you call him. Explain to him why you think that the riding instructors in this country have got it all wrong and explain your ideas on how motorcycle safety could be done better.


That made me LOL, she would have to back herself up then. Not going to happen. Same with the going for testing, sadly she is all that is wrong with riders currently.

But it is encouraging how many are taking the training and getting benefit from it. I have not heard anybody say they have not got a thing from the Ride Forever program.

im trying to get to the Auckland event if I can and will say hello. :niceone:

[riffer]

im trying to get to the Auckland event if I can and will say hello. :niceone:


It will be good to see you mate. If you can, catch Kevin Williams talk on "The Science of Being Seen". It's a real eye opener.

[Murray]

There was a media story from a riding school last week where the instructor claimed he could teach you to sense when someone else is about to screw up before they actually do. So he in effect was saying he could teach you to sense a car coming around a bend on the wrong side of the road before it comes into your view which is absolute bullshit.

Provide the link or stop quoting I heard, I read or I saw

[Murray]

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think

Katman doesn't count


Um only for the entertainment value.

Yep

[Woodman]

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.

What about riders that have been to training and have had no "no fault" crash experience? Wouldn't that be better than your "ride around blindly hoping luck will work" method of rider improvement.

Oh, and go away........

[george formby]

Okay, I know that a few of you drive heavy vehicles for a living - petrol tankers, cement trucks and so on. So this question is for you, in light of the repeated comment that your vehicles have blind spots.

If you are parked at the side of the road in your heavy vehicle - such as a bus would be at a bus stop - and I am approaching your vehicle from the rear and I can see your mirror[s] on the right hand side, would you see me provided you did more than a quick glance in your mirror?


In the main, I've found HG drivers to be good buggers. Give them some room, stay in the mirrors and they do what they can to let you get past safely and let traffic flow.

[Moi]

In the main, I've found HG drivers to be good buggers. Give them some room, stay in the mirrors and they do what they can to let you get past safely and let traffic flow.

That has also been my general experience when on the bike.

[Akzle]

The riders who have been to riding school will no doubt strike problems should they find themselves in a situation not taught to them in riding school. Such situations will be when someone else is at fault as no riding school can teach for that senario although some on here think they can but experience will prove the riding school is not correct in their belief there.

you're a fuckwit

[AllanB]

The riders who have been to riding school will no doubt strike problems should they find themselves in a situation not taught to them in riding school. Such situations will be when someone else is at fault as no riding school can teach for that senario although some on here think they can but experience will prove the riding school is not correct in their belief there.



Easy solution to the posts.

A wee KB whip-the-hat-around for Cassina to do a CHCH riding school. Nothing to lose other than time off work (can't be bad when you are riding) and I'm sure there is a weekend one.

Learn something to take on the road with you and it's money well spent. If you hand on heart believe you have not learnt one thing that should make you safer I'd be surprised.

Rastus posts occasionally awareness tips for riding - must say a couple lately re following distances and braking have reminded me to take better stock of my own behavior. And that was free :2thumbsup

[neels]

The riders who have been to riding school will no doubt strike problems should they find themselves in a situation not taught to them in riding school. Such situations will be when someone else is at fault as no riding school can teach for that senario although some on here think they can but experience will prove the riding school is not correct in their belief there.I think you have fundamentally misunderstood the point of rider training. It's not to teach you what to do, rather where to be and what to look for so you can make a sensible decision about what to do, such as noticing a dog on the roadside early and therefore having enough time to stop rather than accelerate into it.

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[Woodman]

The riders who have been to riding school will no doubt strike problems should they find themselves in a situation not taught to them in riding school. Such situations will be when someone else is at fault as no riding school can teach for that senario although some on here think they can but experience will prove the riding school is not correct in their belief there.

But what if they don't strike problems and have the same amount of riding experience as yourself. Is it because of rider training or just plain luck that they haven't had any no fault crashes?

[Woodman]

I think you have fundamentally misunderstood the point of rider training. It's not to teach you what to do, rather where to be and what to look for so you can make a sensible decision about what to do, such as noticing a dog on the roadside early and therefore having enough time to stop rather than accelerate into it.

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Or not accelerating towards a bus that may or may not be pulling out?:facepalm:

[husaberg]

That was not the dog crash situation I was in as it was the dog that accelerated into my parth and not the other way around. What does your ridng school teach you about how to handle a situation where a dog could run into your parth?

Observation, have you ever heard of defensive driving skills.

[Graystone]

That was not the dog crash situation I was in as it was the dog that accelerated into my parth and not the other way around. What does your ridng school teach you about how to handle a situation where a dog could run into your parth?

<s>bark</s> brake?

[husaberg]

Ever heard of shit happening before you have the time to do anything? I bet not and I bet your riding school would never believe shit could happen so fast too.
I take that as a no then.
Every notice how people who are prepared have all the time in the world.
Or how a gifted sports player has time to consider options before passing kicking or running, yet a mediocre one just panics does something stupid or just gets smashed. Deer in the headlights.

[Woodman]

Its just luck. Some others have comented on here that going to riding school will not make you bullet proof against the screwups of others and in such an instance its bad luck or would you say they went to the wrong school or did not pay attention in class?

Does accelerating towards a bus that may or may not pull out increase or decrease your luck?

[Murray]

I take that as a no then.
Every notice how people who are prepared have all the time in the world.
Or how a gifted sports player has time to consider options before passing kicking or running, yet a mediocre one just panics does something stupid or just gets smashed. Deer in the headlights.

Great analogy. But Cassina will only get as far as the anal bit

[malcy25]

Ever heard of shit happening before you have the time to do anything? I bet not and I bet your riding school would never believe shit could happen so fast too.
Haha, and you were advocating ACCELERATING into it......and further reducing the available time to do something about it. It's. It not luck that you have survived this long. And if ain't skill either. Rather that the Stars have not lined up.....yet.

[Voltaire]

" Should have gone to riding school"

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[husaberg]

It improves your luck but only if you do a centre line hug to get as far from it when it pulls out as you can.
I think you need to get some new trolling material

[malcy25]

It improves your luck but only if you do a centre line hug to get as far from it when it pulls out as you can.
And up into the path of the car coming the other way that just drifted over the centreline while they send that text.....boy that was lucky. 😆

[Woodman]

Or into the bus by placing false trust that you you have been seen by the driver.

Or into the bus at a faster speed because you accelerated even though you know the bus driver may not have seen you.

[malcy25]

Or into the bus by Accelerating into the back of it.

Fixed it for you.

[VFR400R]

I think cassina and Clive Matthew-Wilson (ref http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=262860) should be locked in a room together with a big stick each. Once the dust settles Mr Matthew-Wilson should have to ride a motorbike for daily transport (in Auckland during peak [corrected from my error of using peek earlier - doh] hour every day, in all weather conditions) for at least 12 months and cassina can should have to do some rider training then provide feedback about its usefulness. cassina yes luck can and at times does come into avoiding an incident, much like sometime things are completely unavoidable (and an accident will occur) however Risk levels you can control.


Riding a motorbike you are at great Risk of getting injured in the event of an accident (fact - you can't deny that)
Wearing the correct protective gear reduces the level on injury for the same type if impact/accident without that protect gear (there are many examples of this on the interwebs - if you need reference I will spend the extra 10 minutes of my life looking them up for you)
Defensive riding/knowing your surrounding/spatial awareness (thing you can learn....luck does not coming into play with these skills) will also reduce the Risk if you can be more prepared in collision avoidance.
Speed yes we love to ride a motorbike and there is that exhilarating feeling you get when going fast (this does not just apply to motorbikes – ask all those that speed in cars) however another fact coming. The slower the impact the less forces involved = the lower the Risk of death or serious injury. Remember compared to other road users we are at the greatest level of Risk to be injured (other than cyclist – who basically have no form of protective anything – their helmet are crap, clothing will not stop anything in the event of an accident on the open road – at open road speeds)


I have one question for you cassina.

Have to lived in Auckland?

Ok I lied a few questions.

Have you daily commuted in Auckland on a motorbike?

Years ago I did a rider training and this did teach me things that I did not know or was not aware of previously. As a result I did change my riding habits, I now always ride with 2 finger over both the clutch and brakes ready to brake at anytime when cars decide to change lanes without

Checking correctly, other than that quick glance at the gap they are going for (reads don’t see other road uses at all let alone a motorcycle).
Indicating – and only doing so after they are ½ way into the other lane – if at all.

This is were those learned skills of Defensive riding/knowing your surrounding/spatial awareness come into play.

[pritch]

Mr Matthew-Wilson should have to ride a motorbike for daily transport (in Auckland during peek hour every day, in all weather conditions)

Peek hour? Sounds a bit voyeuristic. Is that a big thing up there in Auckland? :whistle:

[VFR400R]

Peek hour? Sounds a bit voyeuristic. Is that a big thing up there in Auckland? :whistle:
LOL you got me there incorrect use of the England language....that should have been "peak" doh and they are far enough away on the keyboard not to use that as an excuse....

[FJRider]

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead.

If by experience you mean the number of crashes you've had ... you must be a slow learner. However ... by riding a little faster than you should ... and following closer than you should ... a finger on the brake lever leaves you little effective advantage when you need to stop.

[Woodman]

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead. I have only riden a bike in Auckland on holiday once years ago.

But if you had gone to "riding school" you may have learned that years before your experience taught you that, and you may have avoided the collision with the bus/dog/car.

[malcy25]

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead. I have only riden a bike in Auckland on holiday once years ago.

I'll just leave this here....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

[FJRider]

Peek hour? Sounds a bit voyeuristic. Is that a big thing up there in Auckland? :whistle:

It's the Massage Parlors version of "Happy Hour" ... allows for more time for viewing whats on offer each night ... :drool:

[nzspokes]

the dog that accelerated into my path

This is where your bullshit falls over.

Was the fucking thing a V8 dog? :lol:

[Woodman]

Dogs can actually move quite fast did you know? The dog breed known as Greyhouds are actually used for racing did you know? Unless it happens to you I guess you will never believe dogs can run faster than it takes you time to brake/swerve or power away.

Did you speed up when you first saw the dog?

[Akzle]

you guys are just fucking masochists.

don't engage (it's pointless)
if you really must say something: call it a fuckwit.

move on with your lives. hope it dies horribly.

[Akzle]

That was not the dog crash situation I was in as it was the dog that accelerated into my path and not the other way around. What does your ridng school teach you about how to handle a situation where a dog could run into your path?
you're a fuckwit

Its just luck. Some others have comented on here that going to riding school will not make you bullet proof against the screwups of others and in such an instance its bad luck or would you say they went to the wrong school or did not pay attention in class?
you're a fuckwit

Ever heard of shit happening before you have the time to do anything? I bet not and I bet your riding school would never believe shit could happen so fast too.
you're a fuckwit

It improves your luck but only if you do a centre line hug to get as far from it when it pulls out as you can.
you're a fuckwit

Or into the bus by placing false trust that you you have been seen by the driver.
you're a fuckwit

I ride with a finger over my brake too but did not need to go to riding school to learn that experience taught me instead. I have only riden a bike in Auckland on holiday once years ago.
you're a fuckwit

Dogs can actually move quite fast did you know? The dog breed known as Greyhouds are actually used for racing did you know? Unless it happens to you I guess you will never believe dogs can run faster than it takes you time to brake/swerve or power away.
so you managed to run over 4 greyhounds? nice to see you've added "or power away" to your previously binary options. a shame you're still a fuckwit and think they're all under the umbrella of luck.

you're a fuckwit

[FJRider]

That was not the dog crash situation I was in as it was the dog that accelerated into my path and not the other way around. What does your ridng school teach you about how to handle a situation where a dog could run into your path?

Ignore them and take NO avoiding action. 99% of the time they merely try to scare you away from THEIR tertritory. The last 1% of dogs are suicidal ... so its pretty much up to YOUR bad luck if you meet one of those.

You go where you look ... so don't look at them. Do not try to kick them as you'll probably break your ankle (even in steel toe-cap boots)... or a few toes.

[george formby]

Ignore them and take NO avoiding action. 99% of the time they merely try to scare you away from THEIR tertritory. The last 1% of dogs are suicidal ... so its pretty much up to YOUR bad luck if you meet one of those.

You go where you look ... so don't look at them. Do not try to kick them as you'll probably break your ankle (even in steel toe-cap boots)... or a few toes.

There is a Bulldog down the road I have tried to use as a kicker, in the trials sense, a couple of times. They can change direction faster than you would think.

[FJRider]

Its just luck. Some others have comented on here that going to riding school will not make you bullet proof against the screwups of others and in such an instance its bad luck or would you say they went to the wrong school or did not pay attention in class?

Just maybe ... they're just smart enough to figure out common sense actions to everyday issues. AND ... Intelligence to see issues arising before they become a problem. THEN take actions to avoid it in time.

[FJRider]

There is a Bulldog down the road I have tried to use as a kicker, in the trials sense, a couple of times. They can change direction faster than you would think.

If you kick out at them ... all it achieves is to upset (badly) your own balance.

[granstar]

you guys are just fucking masochists.

don't engage (it's pointless)
if you really must say something: call it a fuckwit.

move on with your lives. hope it dies horribly.

So, officially the end of this tripe :woohoo:

[george formby]

If you kick out at them ... all it achieves is to upset (badly) your own balance.

No, no. Trials. I've tried to wheelie off it. Fat little bugger can turn on a sixpence. :lol:
I learned not to kick dogs when I was a kid on a push bike. Never ended well.

[FJRider]

Ever heard of shit happening before you have the time to do anything? I bet not and I bet your riding school would never believe shit could happen so fast too.

They actually teach you how to see things that could/might turn bad if you don't take steps to avoid it. Ignore those signs and it will go shitty ... really fucking mind blowing fast.

They are very much aware how fast a situation can develop ... but the "wise" ones that have not done any rider training ... seem to have the most problem dealing with it.

Funny that ... :lol:

[FJRider]

It improves your luck but only if you do a centre line hug to get as far from it when it pulls out as you can.

Because ... Next to the center-line is the safest part of the road at ALL times ... right .. ???

If you ride a big powerful "get fucked" sports bike like a Honda CB750 ... you can ALWAYS power out of EVERY dangerous situation that somebody ELSE has created for you ... right ... ???

[AllanB]

I just don't understand your inability to believe any form of training may assist you in the future. Surely you apply some form of formal training/teaching in the rest of your life that has positive results.

There must have been a bad incident with a teacher when you were young .....

No one has ever stated that doing a riding training course will make you all seeing and all knowing, but it is highly likely that you will learn something that your will apply each time you ride.

How bad would that be?

[FJRider]

Or into the bus by placing false trust that you you have been seen by the driver.

Don't TRUST anybody.

The issue is NOT "Have they SEEN you" ... it is NOT changing their intention to pull out in front of you ... usually believing they have time ... and trusting
(assuming) YOU will take action to avoid hitting THEM (and they are in a hurry). Even if it means YOU running off the road.

[FJRider]

I guess I must have a lot more confidence in my riding ability than others on here to not need to go to riding school.

That does more to show stupidity than intelligence ... but keep it up ... you'll die soon anyway.

[Graystone]

I guess I must have a lot more confidence in my riding ability than others on here

Truer words were never spoken, how you can have any confidence after the myriad of hounds mown down is beyond us...

[AllanB]

I guess I must have a lot more confidence in my riding ability than others on here to not need to go to riding school.


I've not done one for many years but I am not adverse to doing one and expect that I'll learn several things that will be of benefit to me. I should bloody sign up for a refresher to get rid of those bad habbits I have no doubt picked up.....

You don't believe you could learn something?

[malcy25]

I guess I must have a lot more confidence in my riding ability than others on here to not need to go to riding school.


In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.

[AllanB]

I am fortunite enough to not have any bad habbits and if I did I would end up falling off as a result of my own fault and not others. If I did have a fall as a result of my own fault though I would be able unlike some others on here to self analyse where I went wrong.


Of course you have some bad riding habbits. Ones that don't make you fall off, but may ultimately result in grief. Following too close for example.
Not wearing correct protection (how many riders have you see in CHCH lately in T-shirts, sans gloves...)

Little things.

[Woodman]

I am fortunite enough to not have any bad habbits and if I did I would end up falling off as a result of my own fault and not others. If I did have a fall as a result of my own fault though I would be able unlike some others on here to self analyse where I went wrong.

Speeding up when you see a bus in front of you that you don't know will pull out or not is a bad habit.

[Akzle]

I just don't understand your inability to believe any form of training may assist you in the future. Surely you apply some form of formal training/teaching in the rest of your life that has positive results. no i'm pretty sure it was born an inconsequential menial shitkicker and will die as one too.


The example I gave of a bus pulling out is one of them and I did not need to go to riding school to know that.
you're a fuckwit

I guess I must have a lot more confidence in my riding ability than others on here to not need to go to riding school.
you're a fuckwit

If another party is at fault you would be just as likely to die as me as its them that controls the speed and distance from you when they screw up.
you're a fuckwit

I am fortunite enough to not have any bad habbits and if I did I would end up falling off as a result of my own fault and not others. If I did have a fall as a result of my own fault though I would be able unlike some others on here to self analyse where I went wrong.
you're a fuckwit

[Moi]

Speeding up when you see a bus in front of you that you don't know will pull out or not is a bad habit.

Can we replace "bad" with one of the following: dumb, dangerous, or daft...

[Akzle]

Can we replace "bad" with one of the following: dumb, dangerous, or daft...

... retarded, fuckwit, dickhead...

[Woodman]

... retarded, fuckwit, dickhead...

clueless, moronic, halfwitted.

[FJRider]

If another party is at fault you would be just as likely to die as me as its them that controls the speed and distance from you when they screw up.

Death or injury is not reliant of the other party being at fault.

If you don't screw up ... you will be fine. You control your speed. You decide where you place yourself on the road ... so put yourself in the right place on the road. If you prang ... it wasn't the right place at all and learn from that.

Without proper training ... learning can be expensive and painful.

[nzspokes]

Dogs can actually move quite fast did you know? The dog breed known as Greyhouds are actually used for racing did you know? Unless it happens to you I guess you will never believe dogs can run faster than it takes you time to brake/swerve or power away.

LOL you are full of bullshit. What breeds were the dogs you slaughtered?

Im heavily involved in dog rescue so know a wee bit about pouches.

[nzspokes]

I am fortunite enough to not have any bad habbits and if I did I would end up falling off as a result of my own fault and not others. If I did have a fall as a result of my own fault though I would be able unlike some others on here to self analyse where I went wrong.

Again you are full of utter bullshit.

And you are too much of a coward to be tested.

[george formby]

clueless, moronic, halfwitted.

Oh, a game!

Trolling, fake, dyslexic.

NZ Spokes. Do you use the pouches to carry the rescued dogs?;)

[neels]

Dogs can actually move quite fast did you know? The dog breed known as Greyhouds are actually used for racing did you know? Unless it happens to you I guess you will never believe dogs can run faster than it takes you time to brake/swerve or power away.
But dogs are small, much smaller than horses, so they must be much less than 1 horsepower. Your bike has many horsepowers, so you should have no trouble out accelerating a dog. Simple physics.

[granstar]

But did you know greyhouds are used for racing, did ya?

[Akzle]

clueless, moronic, halfwitted.

half?
you must be feeling generous.

giz a turn on your missus eh?

[Woodman]

NZ Spokes. Do you use the pouches to carry the rescued dogs?;)

I think he got confused with rescue kangaroos.

[nzspokes]

I think he got confused with rescue kangaroos.

LOL, spelling fail.

But shit I saw a vid the other day of an Aussie getting taken out by a Roo on his Hornet. Feck it was brutal. Apparently they now use a ultrasonic whistle that scares them off.

[nzspokes]

But did you know greyhouds are used for racing, did ya?

Well feck me, what will they think of next?:laugh:

[Voltaire]

no i'm pretty sure it was born an inconsequential menial shitkicker and will die as one too.


you're a fuckwit

you're a fuckwit

you're a fuckwit

you're a fuckwit

335182

don't forget to leave red rep :rolleyes:

Like your posts it means so much :laugh:

[FJRider]

LOL, spelling fail.

But shit I saw a vid the other day of an Aussie getting taken out by a Roo on his Hornet. Feck it was brutal. Apparently they now use a ultrasonic whistle that scares them off.

In 1981 I was riding a 1976 750F1 Honda on the main highway on the West coast of Malaysia ... and saw a guy on a 50cc scooter get taken out by an Elephant. Those thing run wild in the jungle/less populated areas.

[husaberg]

don't forget to leave red rep :rolleyes:

Like your posts it means so much :laugh:
Don't mention rep to axhole he will go on and on about it for months:shifty:.....

[Murray]

I am fortunite enough to not have any bad habbits

How do you know if you won't listen to anyone else??

[eldog]

.. and saw a guy get taken out by an Elephant. Those thing run wild in the jungle/less populated areas.

See the same thing in Auckland everyday...... Lots of elephants :rolleyes:

yea, that would be scary. Did the elephant claim no fault, your honour?

[Jeeper]

Watched the TV News tonight and yet again all the Police can say is we are speeding and we need to lower the speed limits. After decades of rolling out that same lame excuse. When, when, when, will they open their minds to the fact that, just maybe, other factors are behind why their decades of over Policing speeding has made no impact what so ever on the road toll.

Sadly we have had two terrible head on crashes that sparked today's Media flurry. Southland one on a perfectly straight road. Taupo on a slight curve with double yellow lines. Both sections appear to provide good forward visibility. Yellow lines by the way mean don't cross to the other side. The other side being deceased.

How fast any of these vehicles were going is irrelevant if they were capable of staying on their own side of the centre line. Whether they were doing 80kpm or 800kpm they would have safely passed each other on their respective sides of the road. Just maybe, just maybe, crossing the centreline is why they struck each other head on.

The Taupo crash was between two families in people movers. Really! to come out within hours saying speed is the problem. Brilliant investigative work. Yeah right, I see MPVs tearing around NZ at 160kpm plus all the time. The only thing speeding here was the rate the Police jumped to that conclusion.

Lets take a wild guess that in each tragic case one of the drivers somehow wandered across the centreline. An essential element for a head on to occur. Speed in these situations determines the extent of the damage but even at 80kph a head on is going to kill so don't blame exceeding the speed limit for causing the crashes (unproven at this point in time). Another wild guess could be mechanical failure, blowout or that a driver was distracted or tired.

If I got a dollar for every time I saw someone driving with a phone in their face I would be a rich man. Maybe the Police should follow that advice and make the Government rich- with the unexpected surprise of reducing the road toll. Pigs will fly before that approach happens.Going back to the original topic. Just saw this a few hours ago. Some of the comments are just crazy.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1842016522497432&id=321854097847023

[Voltaire]

Going back to the original topic. Just saw this a few hours ago. Some of the comments are just crazy.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1842016522497432&id=321854097847023

Facebook and Stuff get their facts off each other, and that plonker off Lemon and Dogging Guide

[FJRider]

See the same thing in Auckland everyday...... Lots of elephants :rolleyes:

yea, that would be scary. Did the elephant claim no fault, your honour?

The Elephant wasn't caught. But bloody footprints were found leading away from the scene. Police trackers lost the trail soon after leaving the road as the soft ground made it impossible to drive on.

The scooter rider found not guilty of harming an endangered species. Something his widow was pleased to hear.

[Jeeper]

Facebook and Stuff get their facts off each other, and that plonker off Lemon and Dogging GuideAll valid points, but unfortunately motorcyclists seem to be the topic at the moment. Having said that, fatalities are not helping the cause either rightly or wrongly.

[98tls]

All valid points, but unfortunately motorcyclists seem to be the topic at the moment. Having said that, fatalities are not helping the cause either rightly or wrongly.

:laugh: Fella motorcycles and fatalities have been around forever back in the day its was just accepted the only reason its a "topic" is because of the unfortunate gathering of fuck ups with nothing better to do than sign up to wank like Facebook :sleep: blah blah.God forbid anyone just accepts motorcycling for what it is these days:weird:

[Jeeper]

[emoji23] Fella motorcycles and fatalities have been around forever back in the day its was just accepted the only reason its a "topic" is because of the unfortunate gathering of fuck ups with nothing better to do than sign up to wank like Facebook [emoji99] blah blah.God forbid anyone just accepts motorcycling for what it is these days:weird:Should we stop caring about heartattacks as well because people have always died off them? Death is part of life attitude? Whether it was preventable or not doesn't matter? Great, lets shutdown all hospitals and medical schools.

[riffer]

But as I have been trying to get through to you lot for a long time whether you can brake or power away is depended on the distance and speed the dog is running when they run out.

Dude. Get over it.

Nobody cares about the hairs you are intent on splitting. So fucking what you had a dog run at you. that one instance does not invalidate any of the good advice that has been given by some on this thread. I guarantee you, if you do actually ride the way you say you do, that you won't survive. A lot of people would say that's not a bad thing but me, I'd prefer nobody dies unnecessarily. You have two ears and one mouth. Start using your senses appropriately.

[VFR400R]

Going back to the original topic. Just saw this a few hours ago. Some of the comments are just crazy.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1842016522497432&id=321854097847023

Well isn't that interesting. I would counter with this
http://news.berkeley.edu/2015/05/29/motorcycle-lanesplitting-report/

[caspernz]

all I have done is raise a very big issue on the fact what they teach in riding school is limited to only situations where a rider has full control.

Really? :confused:

Ever been to a riding school? :no:

The sooner you start taking your medication again, the better. :rolleyes:

[crack]

What are they:

I must admit to a bit of tongue in cheek humor:

First Cassina! I guess that english is not your first language?

Cassina, from the Latin castrum meaning "camp", indicating a farmhouse which was inhabited by more than one family.

Cassina Name Meaning. You are cheerful and friendly, but are apt to have an emotional life. You like to have several lines of effort going at once. You are a good talker and promoter and seldom worry over anything. At times, you can be impatient, and impulsive.

Lets address non specific training in general:

On the cover of my old Flight Safety QRH, is a famous Flight Safety Quote:

"The best safety device in any aeroplane is a well trained Crew":

Training! It can not ever cover anyone, for every event.

What good training does,and is the object for one to take home after is this:

Good training with and upon experience, "GIVES YOU OPTIONS", it lets you make educated best choice in bad situations, in aviation we use the term 'Airmanship" and after all these years I still can not explain what exactly Airmanship is!

Motorcycle training I view in exactly the same manner, it will not ever cover you for every event, it will however make you smarter, it will make you more aware of just what may happen and can happen.

With this awareness, applied in the right way, together with the right understanding and logic, it will if you are open to critique, allow you to become a better rider, with this understanding in your back pocket! you will become a better rider, better with new skills applied, and better with a better mind set, and approach to your riding together with an understanding of the operating risk surrounding you, and your possible affect on other road users.

Now! I once (aged 19) had a CB750/4, (piece of shit) and I saw a lady coming out of her drive in her orange Morris 1100, I made eye contact with her, & her with me, I accelerated, she accelerated, we met in the middle!

It worries me (to a lesser amount) that either you do not really ride and this site is your time and energy focus, (thats okay) or you are just deliberately having a piss take on a constant watch, (thats okay).

Or (to a larger degree) a motorcycle road user with the mind set you have, if this is the case? then you are indeed,"BArking MAd".:done:

[RDJ]

Should we stop caring about heartattacks as well because people have always died off them? Death is part of life attitude? Whether it was preventable or not doesn't matter? Great, lets shutdown all hospitals and medical schools.

Wow. Amazing straw edifice you gots there.

[RDJ]

Really? :confused:

Ever been to a riding school? :no:

The sooner you start taking your medication again, the better. :rolleyes:

But the other question is; halve the dose, or double the dose?

[crack]

Going back to the original topic. Just saw this a few hours ago. Some of the comments are just crazy.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1842016522497432&id=321854097847023

A few nights ago on the program, A cop down south is going after two speeding vehicles.

What I saw gives me concern at their very lacking level of training:

I say this because how many times have we seen accidents with motorcycles when police car does a Uturn to give chase:

Most recently just before Christmas, old mate got cleaned up by a Police woman coming towards him, she being target fixated on the speeding boy racer, not seeing the on coming motorcycle she does a abrupt Uturn and cleans old mate up, he is still recovering.

Now back to the road Cops episode, what you see is "He looks in his mirror, his chin/head, does not go to his shoulder" he does an abrupt Uturn on a major road, he is and you can see it, he is target fixated! he did not check his/ or allow for his blind spot:

They can and do "Kill us", they need to re address their driver chase protocols and training, the evidence is against them:

[Akzle]

But as I have been trying to get through to you lot for a long time whether you can brake or power away is depended on the distance and speed the dog is running when they run out.

and as EVERYONE has been trying to get through to you: you're a fuckwit

[Akzle]

if you do actually ride the way you say you do, that you won't survive. A lot of people would say that's not a bad thing but me, I'd prefer nobody dies unnecessarily.
it wouldn't be unnecessary as such. it would benefit the species (human and canine :rofl: )




You have two ears and one mouth. Start using your senses appropriately.

or more fully, two eyes, two ears and one mouth (though with southland imbreeding and apparent retardation that's moot)
so you should look and listen four times as much as you speak.

(and i'd say mouth and rectum are interchangeable, given the shit that comes out...)

[crack]

It could be argued from your rant that for us to stay safe we give up riding all together and those riders who have done that already are smarter than all of us still riding.

And removing any doubt I may have had.


I do confirm you to be indeed, BArking MAd.

You need either a good :spanking: or:ar15: although I favor a Barrett 50 with an explosive head:

[Akzle]

Not all dogs bark as they move did you know? So to think that they do just proves how out of touch you are to think you will never be hit but a dog because you will be able to hear it coming in plenty of time to get away.
As for splitting hairs all I have done is raise a very big issue on the fact what they teach in riding school is limited to only situations where a rider has full control. That is maybe an inconveniant truth to you and some others on here.

:rofl: straight over the top of your head. because you're a fuckwit.

[crack]

Dogs can actually move quite fast did you know? The dog breed known as Greyhouds are actually used for racing did you know? Unless it happens to you I guess you will never believe dogs can run faster than it takes you time to brake/swerve or power away.

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[Akzle]

It could be argued from your rant that for us to stay safe we give up riding all together and those riders who have done that already are smarter than all of us still riding.

you're a fuckwit

[Akzle]

they need to re address their driver chase protocols and training, the evidence is against them:

ahem. that's "fleeing driver" policy. because the police are above reproach and enforcing traffic legislation is VERY important




...(to their budgt) <_<

[Akzle]

No you are the barking mad one if you think when you ride you are exposed to any less risk than me just because
you have been to riding school.

you're a fuckwit

[Akzle]

And removing any doubt I may have had.


I do confirm you to be indeed, BArking MAd.

You need either a good :spanking: or:ar15: although I favor a Barrett 50 with an explosive head:

.50 is like 12$ a shot. a fucken .22 would do.
vote akzle

[pritch]

Ignore them and take NO avoiding action. 99% of the time they merely try to scare you away from THEIR tertritory. The last 1% of dogs are suicidal ... so its pretty much up to YOUR bad luck if you meet one of those.

You go where you look ... so don't look at them. Do not try to kick them as you'll probably break your ankle (even in steel toe-cap boots)... or a few toes.

And if all else fails, make sure you have released the front brake before impact. You want the wheel rotating.

[crack]

.50 is like 12$ a shot. a fucken .22 would do.
vote akzle

Gladly part with the $12.00, just to be sure to be sure.:yes:

[Viking01]

But as I have been trying to get through to you lot for a long time whether you can brake or power away is depended on the distance and speed the dog is running when they run out.


But I'm still not clear on what to do.

Perhaps you could illustrate for us, with some worked examples, showing
speed and relative position of dog ?

I'm not sure whether the size or breed of dog is relevant to the argument.

Though I'm fairly sure that:
1. Failure on the dog's part to check its blind spot, and
2. The risk of me being rear ended while taking avoiding action
can both be safely ignored.

I look forward to your helpful reply.

Yours,
"Confused"

[nzspokes]

You are assuming that there is always time to do something which in my case there wasnt. If it happens to you too maybe you will not have time to do anything either but I bet your riding school would say there is no such thing as having no time to do anything. Just follow the directive of your riding school or do you feel there are situations that not even they can teach for?

What breed were the dogs you killed?

[Viking01]

You are assuming that there is always time to do something which in my case there wasnt. If it happens to you too maybe you will not have time to do anything either but I bet your riding school would say there is no such thing as having no time to do anything. Just follow the directive of your riding school or do you feel there are situations that not even they can teach for?


But you said earlier that with your "real world experience", you were far
more knowledgeable than my riding school.

Which is why I contacted you.

Yours,
"Disappointed" (formerly "Confused")

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[Woodman]

Not all dogs bark as they move did you know? So to think that they do just proves how out of touch you are to think you will never be hit but a dog because you will be able to hear it coming in plenty of time to get away.
As for splitting hairs all I have done is raise a very big issue on the fact what they teach in riding school is limited to only situations where a rider has full control. That is maybe an inconveniant truth to you and some others on here.

Did you know that a 350 Chevrolet engine has a bore and stroke of 4" x 3.48" and has 8 cylinders?

[Woodman]

Just follow the directive of your riding school or do you feel there are situations that not even they can teach for?

This is what we have been trying to get through your thick skull for months now. Y yoo no rissen?

[Jeeper]

Nobody can teach anyone everything. But if one can be taught key principles, then that acquired knowledge can then be applied to similar circumstances. Have you ever wondered why even the university degree does not teach you everything about the subject of the degree you graduate with? They teach you principles for critical thinking.

[riffer]

You can never be too careful when you're on your motorcycle. Why, this guy even got attacked by a turkey.

Some parallels here with real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIuFsUj4Tew

[nzspokes]

I would have no idea as to breeds. I have no idea whether they were killed or not but hopefully they were so they
were not likely to run out and hit anyone else.

So you want to kill animals. Wow.

[VFR400R]

You can never be too careful when you're on your motorcycle. Why, this guy even got attacked by a turkey.

Some parallels here with real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIuFsUj4TewLooks like the turkey is about to bite the dust right at the end with the help of the caged driver in the white bmw.
Just never know what kind of crazy wants to knock you off your motorbike - even a turkey.....

[Woodman]

But if I did not think when I ride I would fall off lots of times due to MY own fault and not the fault of others.

But you don't think and you do fall off.

[Akzle]

You are assuming that there is always time to do something which in my case there wasnt. If it happens to you too maybe you will not have time to do anything either but I bet your riding school would say there is no such thing as having no time to do anything. Just follow the directive of your riding school or do you feel there are situations that not even they can teach for?
you're a fuckwit

I would have no idea as to breeds. I have no idea whether they were killed or not but hopefully they were so they
were not likely to run out and hit anyone else.
you're a fuckwit

But if I did not think when I ride I would fall off lots of times due to MY own fault and not the fault of others.
you're a fuckwit

With your way of thinking then if you hit an animal on the road I hope the animal lives and not you. Why do you not value human life above that of an animal? Many animal lovers have been badly injured or killed trying to avoid them on the road. I guess thats ok with you.
you're a fuckwit

[Akzle]

http://www.zzcartoon.com/videos/kinky-wolf-fucks-red-hat-as-hard.html

just... wow.
did you mean to link that or was that accidental capy-pasta?

[crack]

just... wow.
did you mean to link that or was that accidental capy-pasta?

Hmmm, Pure accident! can I apologize:

[98tls]

Should we stop caring about heartattacks as well because people have always died off them? Death is part of life attitude? Whether it was preventable or not doesn't matter? Great, lets shutdown all hospitals and medical schools.

Care about whatever you like thing being it wont change anything,Ride your bike live your life blah blah soaking up shit from wankbook wont either.

[98tls]

[QUOTE=Jeeper; Death is part of life attitude?.[/QUOTE]

In the big picture ive only been here a short while but yet to come across anyone that has an alternative plan with any merit.

[Berries]

Ok, it has been side splittingly funny at times but I am reminded of what me old Mum used to tell me, never laugh at those less abled people.

Many a time I have wanted to respond and point out another error in thinking but it is a futile process. If we all just stopped responding and feeding the ridiculous dribble that comes out of her mouth perhaps she will stop posting and gradually disappear back to the 1970's.

For those who say bad advice needs to be countered I disagree, just ignore her.

[Akzle]

Ok, it has been side splittingly funny at times but I am reminded of what me old Mum used to tell me, never laugh at those less abled people.

Many a time I have wanted to respond and point out another error in thinking but it is a futile process. If we all just stopped responding and feeding the ridiculous dribble that comes out of her mouth perhaps she will stop posting and gradually disappear back to the 1970's.

For those who say bad advice needs to be countered I disagree, just ignore her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement#Negative_reinforcement

[AllanB]

I've had a few birds of the feathered type hit me over the years on the motorcycle.

Mind you a couple of the non feathered type have spanked me as well ... but that's a story for another day, but it could cum under the category of rider training :niceone:

[Woodman]

What I cannot understand is why has this thread not managed to attain PD status. Seriously if a thread doesn't appear on the "whats new" page then it will die off real quick. Actually the "whats new" page is when and the reason why kb really turned to shit.

[AllanB]

Actually the "whats new" page is when and the reason why kb really turned to shit.


I like it. I can power in and see what's topical and mark the important ones if I want to follow em.


I've been on other sites that don't have the KB banter and are strictly MC talk only. Actually I should say I have been banned off at least one of them for breaking the anal rules too often including a rude word or two.

They provided pure data but were as entertaining as looking at naked pictures of Yoko Ono.

(two out of five KBers will Google 'naked Yoko Ono' after reading the above).

[Woodman]

Actually I should say I have been banned off at least one of them for breaking the anal rules



There are rules about anal??

[nzspokes]

With your way of thinking then if you hit an animal on the road I hope the animal lives and not you. Why do you not value human life above that of an animal? Many animal lovers have been badly injured or killed trying to avoid them on the road. I guess thats ok with you.

You just went full retard.

You killed the dogs because you are an idiot and cant ride for shit.

[riffer]

Not all dogs bark as they move did you know? So to think that they do just proves how out of touch you are to think you will never be hit but a dog because you will be able to hear it coming in plenty of time to get away.
As for splitting hairs all I have done is raise a very big issue on the fact what they teach in riding school is limited to only situations where a rider has full control. That is maybe an inconveniant truth to you and some others on here.


No. You're a fuckwit.

[Akzle]

There are rules about anal??

lick it before you stick it :bleh:

,hose out the barn before going in...

[Woodman]

lick it before you stick it :bleh:

,hose out the barn before going in...

Aaaah so your goats are kept indoors?

[rastuscat]

You just went full retard.

Retard? Is that those off road bikes with tiny road wheels and slicks?

Hmmmm. No. I'm mixing it up with motard.

[Akzle]

There are rules about anal??

and also:
http://tuckermax.com/stories/tucker-tries-buttsex-hilarity-does-not-ensue/

[FJRider]

... Just follow the directive of your riding school or do you feel there are situations that not even they can teach for?

They've been right so far ... and since following their advice in various situations ... I HAVEN'T Crashed. Can you say the same ... ???

[FJRider]

Retard? Is that those off road bikes with tiny road wheels and slicks?

Hmmmm. No. I'm mixing it up with motard.

Full retard is when you're missing stuff you really SHOULD have ... like a working brain.

Cassina went full + retard ... missing stuff she never got ... (I blame the Government)

[FJRider]

but that's a story for another day, but it could cum under the category of rider training :niceone:

Or ... rider discipline ... :shifty: and if you mention you're all tied up at the moment ... we'll understand ... <_<

[granstar]

What I cannot understand is why has this thread not managed to attain PD status. Seriously if a thread doesn't appear on the "whats new" page then it will die off real quick. Actually the "whats new" page is when and the reason why kb really turned to shit.

Doesn't like troll heaven then.

[russd7]

(though with southland imbreeding and apparent retardation that's moot)
so you should look and listen four times as much as you speak.

(and i'd say mouth and rectum are interchangeable, given the shit that comes out...)

hownthe hell did we end up gettin lumped with him, quite clearly says canterbury in his info.

[FJRider]

No you are the barking mad one if you think when you ride you are exposed to any less risk than me just because
you have been to riding school.

Because he has been to riding school ... he is exposed to the same risks (true) ... but because he has been to a riding school ... he knows how to effectively deal with them.

[FJRider]

(two out of five KBers will Google 'naked Yoko Ono' after reading the above).

I was NOT one of the two. But I watched one of the two so it doesn't count .. :innocent:

[Akzle]

hownthe hell did we end up gettin lumped with him, quite clearly says canterbury in his info.

sorry. no offence intended to the rest of you inbred hillbillies.
it's land and it's down south.
but i would never mean to compare anyone to fuckwit. it's it's own special breed of fuckwittery and no-one deserves that. that'd just be fucken rude.

[granstar]

sorry. no offence intended to the rest of you inbred hillbillies.
it's land and it's down south.
but i would never mean to compare anyone to fuckwit. it's it's own special breed of fuckwittery and no-one deserves that. that'd just be fucken rude.

Hell even the chocolate fish down here are more intelligent. Back to your box of Jaffa's there.:violin:

[AllanB]

hownthe hell did we end up gettin lumped with him, quite clearly says canterbury in his info.

It's a typo. Pretty sure he/she is presently living in Cunterbury .....

[russd7]

sorry. no offence intended to the rest of you inbred hillbillies.
it's land and it's down south.
but i would never mean to compare anyone to fuckwit. it's it's own special breed of fuckwittery and no-one deserves that. that'd just be fucken rude.

even tho im only an honorary southlander i object to having my chosen home be defiled by that, it surely must be australian, thats it obviously, roos kinda have a doggish lookin head and porbably caused a not at fault accident, yeah thats it, startin to make sense now

[FJRider]

But if the risk is not of his own making his ability to deal with it will come down to how lucky he gets as to having any time to deal with it.

Effectively dealing with issues ... is not relying on luck to solve them. With your IQ still a single figure ... you will probably never grasp that simple fact.

[FJRider]

There are rules about anal??

Rules are for poof's ... oh wait ...

[Woodman]

But if the risk is not of his own making his ability to deal with it will come down to how lucky he gets as to having any time to deal with it.

Or his ability to see where an issue may occur, and if it does occur how to maybe deal with it. It is not 100% but better than nothing, and if you haven't got 40 plus years of riding under your belt to gain the experience that you so treasure then rider training will pass on the knowledge of those that have experience to those that haven't got the experience. It is as simple as that.

[AllanB]

There are rules about anal??


That was back when I owned a Honda ............ I'm pretty sure the anal rules were in the rear section of the owners manual:

1. only use genuine Honda lube

2. take it easy the first few times until the bore loosens up

3. if it smokes excessively check the oil level

4. slow down if it is excessively wet to avoid falling off

5. if in doubt ask your dealer to show you how

[AllanB]

Rules are for poof's ... oh wait ...

That really sucked ..........

[eldog]

That really sucked ..........
He was a self confessed Honda owner.........:spanking:

[granstar]

But the real joke is showing It the way out.

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[rastuscat]

Cassina went full + retard ... missing stuff she never got ... (I blame the Government)

Works for me.

[Akzle]

. Back to your box of Jaffa's there.:violin:
oi! no need to be rude!

But if the risk is not of his own making his ability to deal with it will come down to how lucky he gets as to having any time to deal with it.

you're a fuckwit

[Akzle]

But the real joke is showing It the way out.

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[Woodman]

You dont have to go to riding school to be able to brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation. It was something you were able to pick up yourself, back in my day anyway.

You are a fuckwit.

[Jeff Sichoe]

jesus christ guys if you keep quoting her then having her on ignore is a waste of time!

[Viking01]

You dont have to go to riding school to be able to brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation. It was something you were able to pick up yourself, back in my day anyway.

So why didn't you ? Brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation.

[Akzle]

You dont have to go to riding school to be able to brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation. It was something you were able to pick up yourself, back in my day anyway.

you're a fuckwit

[Akzle]

So why didn't you ? Brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation.

jesus fucking fuck are you taking the michael or what?? the fuckwit's said it a thousand fucking times already. it hardly says mucjh else.

because somtimes you're unlucky and things happen too fast and the dog/driver doesn't give you enough time to do anything about it at all because you're unlucky.

obvs.


c*ssina is a fuckwit.

[crack]

If the Dog was on a Vector, Ie a Heading with Velocity, and it incorporates a given mass, ( It may be BArking, or it may not, so you would have to compensate for the amount of/or weight of air within the dogs body at the time of impact)

You are on a Vector at a constant velocity/ speed with a given mass, then having to change your vector to a Trajectory accompanied with an increase in velocity:

Say the Dog weighs 40 kilograms, with its mouth closed, (I guess it would matter if you hit it with its mouth open as opposed to closed though)

And you and your bike weigh in at say 340 kilograms.

The dog is accelerating to the point of impact at 25 KPH.

You are Accelerating through 75 Kph .

The dog is on a course for impact from your Starboard side at an angle to you of 23.5' degs from your Zero.

You turn 35' degs from your Zero at 75Pkh:

If one allowed for MASS:
TIME: X Dist, the point of impact would be at the tangent of E=Mc Sq, at a latitude of 91.576 degs North, and 181.5 Sth:

Could some one confirm my equation?:

Yeah I think I got it right::devil2:

Hey I hit a Ewe Once on my old Zed 1 on the Waihao bridge, it caught me by surprise out from the abutment, just passing the waimate airstrip, I ACCELERATED into it, hitting it mid ships at 90 degs side on, cut the Fooker in half! What a bloody awfull mess, not a scratch!

Hey Akzle!
I got some rounds left!

[FJRider]

So why didn't you ? Brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation.

She has an awful lot of crashes ... so it can't be a that reliable action in practice. Or she's doing it wrong.

Oh wait ... she said the OTHER person must be at fault for that to work.

[Viking01]

She has an awful lot of crashes ... so it can't be a that reliable action in practice. Or she's doing it wrong.

Oh wait ... she said the OTHER person must be at fault for that to work.

Yes, I too was struggling to keep up. And it's not even a group ride.

[Woodman]

Depending on how close the screwup from the other party is from you this is sometimes impossible to do.Yes we all understand that I know most on here will only believe that when it happens to them.no everyone understands that already There would be no road deaths/injuries by innocent parties at all if we all had time to brake, swerve or power away from muppets when they screw up now would there??Yes you are correct Just try and think that over if your brain is up to it.

You are a fuckwit

[riffer]

I just think your subtlety is lost on the fuckwitted one mate.

[Woodman]

No you dont all understand my statement at all as you would not be calling me a fuckwit otherwise. I just think you lot are the fuckwits!!

Can you elaborate on that?

[Akzle]

Depending on how close the screwup from the other party is from you this is sometimes impossible to do. I know most on here will only believe that when it happens to them. There would be no road deaths/injuries by innocent parties at all if we all had time to brake, swerve or power away from muppets when they screw up now would there?? Just try and think that over if your brain is up to it.
ur a fkwt.

No you dont all understand my statement at all as you would not be calling me a fuckwit otherwise. I just think you lot are the fuckwits!!

and yet you keep coming back for more.

ur a fkwt

[granstar]

If the Dog was on a Vector, Ie a Heading with Velocity, and it incorporates a given mass, ( It may be BArking, or it may not, so you would have to compensate for the amount of/or weight of air within the dogs body at the time of impact)

You are on a Vector at a constant velocity/ speed with a given mass, then having to change your vector to a Trajectory accompanied with an increase in velocity:

Say the Dog weighs 40 kilograms, with its mouth closed, (I guess it would matter if you hit it with its mouth open as opposed to closed though)

And you and your bike weigh in at say 340 kilograms.

The dog is accelerating to the point of impact at 25 KPH.

You are Accelerating through 75 Kph .

The dog is on a course for impact from your Starboard side at an angle to you of 23.5' degs from your Zero.

You turn 35' degs from your Zero at 75Pkh:

If one allowed for MASS:
TIME: X Dist, the point of impact would be at the tangent of E=Mc Sq, at a latitude of 91.576 degs North, and 181.5 Sth:

Could some one confirm my equation?:

Yeah I think I got it right::devil2:

Hey I hit a Ewe Once on my old Zed 1 on the Waihao bridge, it caught me by surprise out from the abutment, just passing the waimate airstrip, I ACCELERATED into it, hitting it mid ships at 90 degs side on, cut the Fooker in half! What a bloody awfull mess, not a scratch!

Hey Akzle!
I got some rounds left!

Sorry but 5 out 4 of us here are no good at math and will never work that one out.

[FJRider]

You dont have to go to riding school to be able to brake, swerve or power out of a dangerous situation.

To power OUT of a dangerous situation ... it's best to be past and away from the actual danger point. Otherwise ... you may find yourself powering INTO a dangerous situation.
Powering THROUGH a dangerous situation is never recommended. Unless you're feeling lucky of course.

[russd7]

Hey I hit a Ewe Once on my old Zed 1 on the Waihao bridge, it caught me by surprise out from the abutment, just passing the waimate airstrip, I ACCELERATED into it, hitting it mid ships at 90 degs side on, cut the Fooker in half! What a bloody awfull mess, not a scratch!

Hey Akzle!
I got some rounds left!

ahhh i know that bridge well, never met ewe on it tho

[Murray]

Cassina I agree with everything you say!

Now will you fuck off!

[awayatc]

Cassina I agree with everything you say!

Now will you fuck off!

Flies are very annoying this summer. ...

Doesn't mean I'm gonna argue with them though

[Voltaire]

Cassina I agree with everything you say!

Now will you fuck off!

For some therapy suggest turning up Talkback loudly and shouting disagreement at the wireless.:msn-wink:

[crack]

I just went to the Pvt Messages, and answered such, and thought I would give her the courtesy of at least a gentle:bash: confirmation that she is BArking MAd.

The following errors occurred with your submission
cassina has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

If you are trying to send this message to multiple recipients, remove cassina from the recipient list and send the message again.

[Akzle]

I just went to the Pvt Messages, and answered such, .

those aren't "private messages"
they're "quote notifications". and you can turn them off in your settings.
and you don't need to "reply" to every single one. individually.

[Akzle]

Did you see the post last year on here where a guy had 2 cars coming towards him with one on his side of the road so he powered through between them on the centre line? He would be dead now if he took your advise.
Of course no riding school would promote powering out of a dangerous situation as it involves breaking the speed limit. Having never been to riding school I am able to think beyond what they are legally allowed to teach which may not be a bad thing despite what all the riding school disciples on here say.

you're a fuckwit

[crack]

Did you see the post last year on here where a guy had 2 cars coming towards him with one on his side of the road so he powered through between them on the centre line? He would be dead now if he took your advise.
Of course no riding school would promote powering out of a dangerous situation as it involves breaking the speed limit. Having never been to riding school I am able to think beyond what they are legally allowed to teach which may not be a bad thing despite what all the riding school disciples on here say.

Cassina post your IQ, to show us you are smarter than the rest of us:

Or better still, Answer my questions on the dog and motorcycle vector!

Look! what the riding schools teach is awareness and best techniques for situations, this mind set helps you improve and make the best decision in the time/nano second a rider may have.

For Some! ye,s you twist and go, others you slow because you see it happening in advance, there is no one rule, no one decision:

Education helps you make good decisions:

For you to understand this you first need a SKull filled with the correct Cranium Matter, and not a baked FRuit CAke:

You are obviously a very experienced and superior rider.
We are obviously not in your league or experience level.

I shall steal Akzles Quote as it is most fitting:

You are indeed a Fuckwit:

BArking MAd, I do say.

:ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::weird::weird::weird ::weird::weird::weird::weird::headbang::headbang:: headbang::headbang::tugger::tugger::tugger::tugger ::tugger::tugger: Or should I say STroker! OMG the thought and image makes me Puke. where do I get this shit from.

[Viking01]

Did you see the post last year on here where a guy had 2 cars coming towards him with one on his side of the road so he powered through between them on the centre line? He would be dead now if he took your advise.
Of course no riding school would promote powering out of a dangerous situation as it involves breaking the speed limit. Having never been to riding school I am able to think beyond what they are legally allowed to teach which may not be a bad thing despite what all the riding school disciples on here say.


Sorry, I've been busy out cutting the lawns this morning. Would have replied earlier.

A couple of very basic errors with your effort this effort. Hope you're paying attention.


".... so he steered through between them on the centre line .....".

There, corrected that one for you. Steered, not powered.

Do feel free to explain why the addition of more throttle on the riders part would have
contributed significantly to a positive outcome (as opposed to him choosing to steer
a line down between the two vehicles).


"Having never been to riding school, I am in no position to comment meaningfully on what
they teach in their courses, nor to what level."

There, corrected that one for you as well. You definitely veered off the road on that one.


Given your claimed ability to think, it's disappointing to see you continue to make the same
basic errors in logic - and the same unfounded assertions. Please do try harder in future.

[neels]

:facepalm:

[ellipsis]

...you people responding to that fuckwit troll, are sick or very bored...

[awayatc]

Cassina post your IQ, to show us you are smarter than the rest of us:



Cuntina's IQ test came back.....

It was negative....

[Viking01]

In order to steer a motorbike you have to apply "power." Dont be so semantical!!!


And here was I thinking it was all about forces and direction ! Not to be "semantical".

Admittedly, university Physics were quite a few years ago. Just goes to show that you're
never too old to learn something "new".

So you're telling me if the rider had kept "steady throttle" or even "decelerated slightly"
(quite apart from steering down the centre line between the two vehicles), he was doomed !

But because he simply chose to "power on", he lived to tell his story to the news reporter !

Wow, that's absolutely amazing. Turns out I just need more "power".

Can't wait to hear what Akzle thinks when he reads it.

This "power" stuff you keep talking about ? Where do you buy it ?

[Akzle]

Cassina post your IQ,


...1/2

:done: .

[Woodman]

In order to steer a motorbike you have to apply "power." Dont be so semantical!!!

Strange? I just got back from a ride and was thoroughly enjoying steering by throttling off into corners.

Also and again, nobody on here has ever said that rider training will stop you getting taken out by someone else. Nobody

[Akzle]

i'm a fuckwit
you sure are.

semantical!!!

not actually a word. which you'd know if you weren't a fuckwit. but alas.

and even the word you think you knew wouldn't have been apropriate in that instance. again. you'd know that if you weren't a fuckwit.

and also, you're a fuckwit

[Murray]

Did you see the post last year on here where a guy had 2 cars coming towards him with one on his side of the road so he powered through between them on the centre line?
But everything you quote is not quite actually as said, seen or heard - as earlier in thread someone saying "Even slow down a little" in your next post reads "slowing down suddenly"

Once again if you quote, provide link or its just another fantasy in your diminished mind! Show us the powered thread

[husaberg]

It sounds like the idea of powering out of a dangerous situation is way over your head so just stick to what your riding school says.
Your definitely opperating on a whole different level from the rest of the population Stevo.

[nzspokes]

In order to steer a motorbike you have to apply "power." Dont be so semantical!!!

How the fuck does a bicycle get around a corner then?

Fuckwit.

[Moi]

How the fuck does a bicycle get around a corner then?

Pixie dust, fairy powder, dragon doo dribbles and heaps and heaps of good luck...


Or you can go the scientific method... something to do with lean and shape of tyres and turning things...

[AllanB]

How the fuck does a bicycle get around a corner then?

Fuckwit.


Baked beans and farts?


Or a scooter - even a four year old can corner on a scooter.


.

[AllanB]

Pedal power fuckwit.


You really need to get out more!

[AllanB]

This photo is just because I like it :yes: could be the best post yet.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pPD5snjFjTk/maxresdefault.jpg

[Moi]

Baked beans and farts?

Cornering practise... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIP9KXdmO0)

[crack]

Ninety degrees away from the applied force, in the direction of rotation!

Get a bicycle wheel (have a hand pivot or axle) sit in a chair that can rotate through 360 degrees, hold the wheel out in front, in the vertical plan and axle in the horizontal plan (left to right) lift it to shoulder height, arms out in front, get someone to spin the wheel, (faster the better) then try turning & twisting the axle, and see what happens? if you are in a pivot and swivel chair it is even more amazing.(same principle as a gyroscope),

As long as it has rotational mass, (no power) it shall exhibit "Precession".



How the fuck does a bicycle get around a corner then?

Fuckwit.

[crack]

Cornering practise... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPIP9KXdmO0)

Farts, Are we talking Queefs? or Anal?: Oh hang on I left out the baked beans, boy this could get really messy!

I wonder what affect it would have on precession: devil2::devil2:

[crack]

Well now there is the "whipped cream" thingy, so yes I guess it is possible some could be into "Baked Beans". so, Queef's allowed!



Farts, Are we talking Queefs? or Anal?: Oh hang on I left out the baked beans, boy this could get really messy!

I wonder what affect it would have on precession: devil2::devil2:

[Swoop]

There are rules about anal??
Up the bum = no babies.

What Miss Cassina's Mum should have done that night.

[RDJ]

How the fuck does a bicycle get around a corner then?

Fuckwit.

I guess in the cassina universe one must dismount, rotate cycle 90degrees on the Y axis, and ride off again.

Sheesh :-)

[AllanB]

I guess in the cassina universe one must dismount, rotate cycle 90degrees on the Y axis, and ride off again.

Sheesh :-)

You forgot the devil spawn of a dog target focusing on you as you rotate through 90 degrees.

[RDJ]

You forgot the devil spawn of a dog target focusing on you as you rotate through 90 degrees.

Oops! Yeah. Mind you, my phased-plasma bean rifle in the 40-watt range will take care of SatanFido. (Yup that's not a typo; bean not beam... he'll be gone with the wind...).

[nzspokes]

Pedal power fuckwit.

Ok retard, go find a bicycle. Pedal as fast as you can and do a U turn, make sure you dont stop pedaling. Report back how that works out for ya. :laugh:

[Akzle]

i'm a fuckwit
yeah we know. you don't have to keep proving it

i'm a fuckwit

yeah. obviosuly.

[Murray]

Its not a court of law did you know and you do have the freedom to ignore my posts completely if you do not have the ability to comprehend what I say.

So hearsay in your warped mind is OK and you can change it to whatever you want to believe you heard, saw or read

You are an idiot - As requested many a time provide links to what you saw, heard or read otherwise just shut up.

AKZLE IS RIGHT

[FJRider]

This photo is just because I like it :yes: could be the best post yet.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pPD5snjFjTk/maxresdefault.jpg

I like it.

What was the thread topic again ...

[Murray]

I like it.

What was the thread topic again ...

From the number of repetitions

Cassina is a fuckwit

[crack]

I like it.

What was the thread topic again ...

You mean thats 'Her":baby::baby: with her :baby::baby:bike! I'm sorry, truely Im so sorry, I take it all back:killingme:killingme:

Can I come around with a bottle of wine, and cook your breakfast!:oi-grr::oi-grr:

queefs so sweet, one could bottle them! one could sell them under that label: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pPD5snjFjTk/maxresdefault.jpg

[FJRider]

From the number of repetitions

Cassina is a fuckwit

Ah yes ... I got distracted ...

[Racing Dave]

Baked beans and farts?

Works for some...

[Laava]

Works for some...

Needs an afterburner!

[crack]

Works for some...

Can these arse mounted venturis be Bifurcated?

Bifurcation together with an afterburner would increase Thrust!:msn-wink:

[FJRider]

This is what can happen when you power past/through a Give Way or Stop sign. The rider was found inside the car with the two teenage female that were in the car. The driver was texting.

[pritch]

This is what can happen when you power past/through a Give Way or Stop sign. The rider was found inside the car with the two teenage female that were in the car. The driver was texting.

I seem to recall that photo was around before texting was a thing.

[rastuscat]

This is what can happen when you power past/through a Give Way or Stop sign. The rider was found inside the car with the two teenage female that were in the car. The driver was texting.

I don't even have to look at the photo to know which one it is. It's been around a lot.longer than cellphones. It just gets trotted out as a new road safety message comes along.

[caseye]

However old the pic may be the message is clear enough.
If you can't see your way through! there isn't one.
Don't shoot the gap! or, as It would say " accelerate into a develo[ping situation to get out the other side quicker ".
Advice proffered by the stupidest C..t I've ever had the missfortune of seeing in print, anywhere.

[awayatc]

I seem to recall that photo was around before texting was a thing.

FJ rider's habit of prolifically posting about anything and everything, is no indication of him having actual knowledge about the subject......

it's just a different sort of tourettes ....

[husaberg]

I seem to recall that photo was around before texting was a thing.
It was in PB arround 95, it was from one of those race riot and piss up meets.

[Paul in NZ]

Pedal power fuckwit.

Well actually speaking as a mountain biker... We seldom pedal through anything other than an uphill hairpin type corner as when leaning over your inside pedal is likely to hit the ground ... Usually at speed inside pedal goes up and outside down. Although the modern way is pedals fore and aft..

[george formby]

It was in PB arround 95, it was from one of those race riot and piss up meets.

IIRC it was on the motorcycle safety stand at the Birmingham bike show around about then. When all the new bikes go on display in the UK.

Sobering.

[neels]

IIRC it was on the motorcycle safety stand at the Birmingham bike show around about then. When all the new bikes go on display in the UK.

Sobering.
Yep, a good reminder to look at what's happening on the road ahead of you and that right of way when you're dead is pretty worthless, and accelerating into trouble is only likely to make things worse.

[neels]

IIRC it was on the motorcycle safety stand at the Birmingham bike show around about then. When all the new bikes go on display in the UK.

Sobering.
Yep, a good reminder to look at what's happening on the road ahead of you and that right of way when you're dead is pretty worthless, and accelerating into trouble is only likely to make things worse.

Or alternatively, don't ride your crotch rocket like a dick.

[husaberg]

IIRC it was on the motorcycle safety stand at the Birmingham bike show around about then. When all the new bikes go on display in the UK.

Sobering.

Well that massive lily white pommy arse would cause a few to go teetotaller.
i just remember seeing it in PB they might have solen it.

[george formby]

Well that massive lily white pommy arse would cause a few to go teetotaller.
i just remember seeing it in PB they might have solen it.

:laugh:Yup, home of the plumbers crack riding style. The photo appeared in a lot of the bike press.

Hardly surprising. Actions and consequences.

I do not know conclusively the mechanics of the accident. Mobile phone was mentioned when it turned up in this thread. Some explanations of the photograph state the bike was speeding.

Whatever. You can't beat physics.

[husaberg]

:laugh:Yup, home of the plumbers crack riding style. The photo appeared in a lot of the bike press.

Hardly surprising. Actions and consequences.

I do not know conclusively the mechanics of the accident. Mobile phone was mentioned when it turned up in this thread. Some explanations of the photograph state the bike was speeding.

Whatever. You can't beat physics.

I was meaning the baked beans and road cone up arse Honda steppie photo.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183797-Road-toll-Police-stupid-obsession-blaming-speed?p=1131085913#post1131085913

[george formby]

I was meaning the baked beans and road cone up arse Honda steppie photo.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183797-Road-toll-Police-stupid-obsession-blaming-speed?p=1131085913#post1131085913

My bad.

I'd rather see the purple helmets than a carnage gallery.

[T.W.R]

I was meaning the baked beans and road cone up arse Honda steppie photo.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183797-Road-toll-Police-stupid-obsession-blaming-speed?p=1131085913#post1131085913

That's the Purple Helmets motorcycle display team :msn-wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gbHkSU0VqY

[husaberg]

My bad.

I'd rather see the purple helmets than a carnage gallery.
Mine i think i replied to the wrong quote.
I never knew who they were though.


That's the Purple Helmets motorcycle display team :msn-wink:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gbHkSU0VqY

Chairs
I know who ate all the pies now.

[crack]

Mine i think i replied to the wrong quote.
I never knew who they were though.


Chairs
I know who ate all the pies now.

Hey can we swap Avatars!:love::love::love:

[husaberg]

Hey can we swap Avatars!:love::love::love:
I think you would be getting the better end of the deal.
Its Jasman blu or aka April Herrera she's some sort of tumblr "nearlebrity"
I just liked the wink
You are more than welcome to my old one though.
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Dornier?

[crack]

I think you would be getting the better end of the deal.
Its Jasman blu or aka April Herrera she's some sort of tumblr "nearlebrity"
I just liked the wink
You are more than welcome to my old one though.
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Dornier?

Nein mein fuhrer A JU88 of Kampfgeschwader 54 "Totenkopf" important bits.

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You must be as disgraceful as myself! Surely so: Important bits you know!

Shit I dont believe I let you get away with that, A Dornier for a JU 88, Damn.

[BadSarah]

Well actually speaking as a mountain biker... We seldom pedal through anything other than an uphill hairpin type corner as when leaning over your inside pedal is likely to hit the ground ... Usually at speed inside pedal goes up and outside down. Although the modern way is pedals fore and aft..

Modern way? I always thought the inside pedal being as far away from the dirt as possible was the safest way. Is there an advantage to having them inline?

[russd7]

Modern way? I always thought the inside pedal being as far away from the dirt as possible was the safest way. Is there an advantage to having them inline?

my guess would be when down hill on a mountain bike ya ass aint gonna be on the seat so ya weight is most likely gonna be on the pedals so inline is going to be more controllable unlike a road bike where ya probably gonna have ya ass on the seat so therefor having inside pedal as high as possible is safer while still being controllable.

just gotta remember if ya doubling a mate on the rear carrier on a ten speed it pays to slow down bit more than ya normally would when going downhill and round a tight corner ;)

[granstar]

just gotta remember if ya doubling a mate on the rear carrier on a ten speed it pays to slow down bit more than ya normally would when going downhill and round a tight corner ;)

Figured how to stop that situation once, mind was being doubled on the bar, my ankle went through the front wheel and we stopped....suddenly, kinda hurt bad. The things ya do when yer 7.
Another way I witnessed some years later about 12 was a mate going down a very steep hill and around a bend, unfortunate for him the chain had broken ( no brakes) and the only thing to stop him was a gorse hedge, and it did. At the sudden stop he went right over and landed on his back on a large pile of fresh gorse cuttings on the otherside, basically one very porcupined boy ( don't think he got any tattoos later in life). Anyway he was in terrible pain laying there screaming , but I was worse in a fit of extreme belly laugh after seeing that unfold.

[Berries]

Well, it is probably the only blunt instrument the government have got and it will be coming here sooner rather than later. Interesting to see how the French will deal with a blanket drop in the open road speed limit -

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44472557

If you are interested, with 380 dead last year and a population of 4.69million our 80.9 deaths per million would put us third worst on that list behind, well, pretty much everywhere in Europe. Closer to India than Italy in fact.

[RDJ]

Our roads are closer to India than Italy, having ridden in both countries I can attest to that.

[AllanB]

I actually blame modern safety technology in cars. Makers now pretty much advertise new vehicles by the number of safety features - so basically sell the car as 'safe' to the owner. Who believes this and consequently drives like a cunt. Then dies, or kills someone else.

[Scuba_Steve]

Well, it is probably the only blunt instrument the government have got and it will be coming here sooner rather than later. Interesting to see how the French will deal with a blanket drop in the open road speed limit -

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44472557

If you are interested, with 380 dead last year and a population of 4.69million our 80.9 deaths per million would put us third worst on that list behind, well, pretty much everywhere in Europe. Closer to India than Italy in fact.

Slower the road, higher the road toll.
Let's lower those speed limits!

[buggerit]

distracted driving killing more than speeding in NZ, was what was on the radio recently.
If we factored in the total number of km travelled per year with the increase in population and huge increase in tourist numbers, I wonder how the numbers
would look, rather than just deaths per year.

[Voltaire]

I actually blame modern safety technology in cars. Makers now pretty much advertise new vehicles by the number of safety features - so basically sell the car as 'safe' to the owner. Who believes this and consequently drives like a cunt. Then dies, or kills someone else.

My gut feeling is that its not the ones driving newer cars you need to watch out for.
I like in the French Article Bikers complaining.....must really impact on their daily work lives...not, where are the Ferrari, Lambo and Porsche owners complaining.

I don't know about modern bikes but riding one with a half width drum brake and no indicators sure kept me alert riding around the city on Saturday.

[Scuba_Steve]

distracted driving killing more than speeding in NZ, was what was on the radio recently.


It's been the top contender for quite sometime... said radio being one of the top distractions along with hot chicks on side of road & passengers to complete the top 3 (not necessarily in that order)

Ironically watching speed is a distraction & slow traffic/speeds are more likely to have people distracted

[Daffyd]

Touch pad infotainment systems aren't going to improve matters either.

[scumdog]

My gut feeling is that its not the ones driving newer cars you need to watch out for.
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Dunno about that - I know of an incident or two caused by incompetents adjusting shit on the touch screen in the centre of the dash

They have to look 'cos no buttons to do it by touch.:rolleyes:

[rastuscat]

Touch pad infotainment systems aren't going to improve matters either.

Plus 4 million.

It's against the law to play with your phone, but plenty legal to spend as much time as you like playing with your in-car infotainment system.

Dumb rules.

Followed a bloke the other day watching the Argentina FIFA football game on a tablet on his dashboard. Sheesh.

[JimO]

Plus 4 million.

It's against the law to play with your phone, but plenty legal to spend as much time as you like playing with your in-car infotainment system.

Dumb rules.

Followed a bloke the other day watching the Argentina FIFA football game on a tablet on his dashboard. Sheesh.
who was winning?

[Scuba_Steve]

Plus 4 million.

It's against the law to play with your phone, but plenty legal to spend as much time as you like playing with your in-car infotainment system.

Dumb rules.

Followed a bloke the other day watching the Argentina FIFA football game on a tablet on his dashboard. Sheesh.

Have they changed the rules surrounding things like screens in latter years? It used to be something like it was unlawful to have a TV useable/seeable by the driver when driving [paraphrased/simple speak]
Has this rule been abolished to allow new tech, overlooked in the rise of new tech, or am I just remembering things wrong all together?

[awayatc]

Back in the day... (80's) it was against the law in Greece to have a radio in the car!...
(And to smoke in your car ....)

[Daffyd]

Have they changed the rules surrounding things like screens in latter years? It used to be something like it was unlawful to have a TV useable/seeable by the driver when driving [paraphrased/simple speak]
Has this rule been abolished to allow new tech, overlooked in the rise of new tech, or am I just remembering things wrong all together?

You're quite right, It was illegal to have a TV screen where a driver could see it. AFAIK that law has never been rescinded.

[granstar]

Back in the day... (80's) it was against the law in Greece to have a radio in the car!...
(And to smoke in your car ....)


In the 70's you had to turn the radio up to drown out the diff noise. It was the car that smoked...badly. Those old Vauxhalls were great!

[YellowDog]

Touch pad infotainment systems aren't going to improve matters either.

I have a 10.5" 4G Andriod device in my dash. Live TV, YouTube, Porno, the lot.

Has a radio too, me thinks :wacko:

Helps improve my driving, no end :no:

[Scuba_Steve]

You're quite right, It was illegal to have a TV screen where a driver could see it. AFAIK that law has never been rescinded.

Well found a rule with a quickish search


2.5 Televisions in motor vehicles

2.5(1) Except as provided in 2.5(2), any part of the image on a
television screen fitted in a motor vehicle must not be visible to
the driver of the motor vehicle from his or her normal driving
position while the motor vehicle is in motion.
2.5(2) Subclause 2.5(1) does not apply if:
(a) the television screen is fitted in the motor vehicle only for
the purpose of assisting the driver to reverse safely, by
showing a clear picture of the area directly behind the
motor vehicle; or
(b) the motor vehicle is a passenger service vehicle and the
provisions of Land Transport Rule: Passenger Service
Vehicles 1999 are complied with; or
(c) the screen is designed so that only information relating to
the navigation, safe operation and control of the motor
vehicle can be displayed on the screen while the motor
vehicle is in motion; or
(d) the screen is only capable of displaying text and any
change to the text on the screen is controlled manually by
the driver.


Legality of infotainment systems it seems would largely depend on what they define as a "TV" (I can't find a legal or made-up NZTA definition of "TV")