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PrincessBandit
17th December 2017, 21:45
Watching this tonight was an eye opener. Really puts the police in an appalling light especially in terms of witnesses being fobbed off.
Doesn't look like he stood a dogs show.

gsxr
18th December 2017, 00:23
For those that missed it here is the Utube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbEee4swdc&t=4391s

Most definitely worth a watch

slofox
18th December 2017, 06:52
I haven't trusted the cops since the Thomas fiasco.

pritch
18th December 2017, 13:18
It's always hard to figure out what the real story is. Also court cases are misleading the way they are organised. Day after day there are all these damning sounding headlines as the prosecution presents their case. Only after that's all finished do the defence get to state their case, but by then the majority of readers/viewers will have already decided "guilty".

At the time I had just one concern, the water taxi driver who said there was a ketch and the police ignored him. If some random guy came out of the pub and said there was a ketch, ignoring that might almost be OK. To ignore a report from a guy who worked on the water at the time though, and who would probably know the difference between a sloop, and a ketch, or a yawl, or whatever else, seemed a major lapse.

Madness
18th December 2017, 13:22
I haven't trusted the popo since the last KB group ride I went on.

Mike.Gayner
18th December 2017, 13:34
NZ Police couldn't investigate their way out of a damp paper bag. There is a long history of botched murder investigations in this country.

gsxr
18th December 2017, 14:01
The Scott Watson case is not the only case D I Pope has managed to secure the conviction of an innocent person whilst steering the investigation away from the guilty party/parties.There are 3 common denominators in 2 of the cases. Gangs,
drugs and Pope

HenryDorsetCase
18th December 2017, 14:39
The Scott Watson case is not the only case D I Pope has managed to secure the conviction of an innocent person whilst steering the investigation away from the guilty party/parties.There are 3 common denominators in 2 of the cases. Gangs,
drugs and Pope

Which three?

jasonu
18th December 2017, 15:37
NZ Police couldn't investigate their way out of a damp paper bag. There is a long history of botched murder investigations in this country.

The whole country is a botch up.

gsxr
18th December 2017, 15:37
Which three?

I said 3 common denominators in 2 cases being Scott Watson and the Lisa Blakie case.

Swoop
18th December 2017, 17:43
At the time I had just one concern, the water taxi driver who said there was a ketch and the police ignored him. If some random guy came out of the pub and said there was a ketch, ignoring that might almost be OK. To ignore a report from a guy who worked on the water at the time though, and who would probably know the difference between a sloop, and a ketch, or a yawl, or whatever else, seemed a major lapse.

There are multiple examples of this ineptitude in this one single case. People involved with boats tend to know a bit about boats...
A fucked-up evidence trail and a cop who had blinkers on to get his conviction (including brownie points, medals, Dunkin' Donuts card, etc) at all costs.

HenryDorsetCase
18th December 2017, 19:13
I said 3 common denominators in 2 cases being Scott Watson and the Lisa Blakie case.

Damn it Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a mathematician

JimO
18th December 2017, 19:40
It's always hard to figure out what the real story is. Also court cases are misleading the way they are organised. Day after day there are all these damning sounding headlines as the prosecution presents their case. Only after that's all finished do the defence get to state their case, but by then the majority of readers/viewers will have already decided "guilty".

At the time I had just one concern, the water taxi driver who said there was a ketch and the police ignored him. If some random guy came out of the pub and said there was a ketch, ignoring that might almost be OK. To ignore a report from a guy who worked on the water at the time though, and who would probably know the difference between a sloop, and a ketch, or a yawl, or whatever else, seemed a major lapse. i havnt seen the doco but remember at the time a off
duty cop was reported as seeing the Ketch while out fishing with mates, did his evidence come up?

gsxr
18th December 2017, 20:47
i havnt seen the doco but remember at the time a off
duty cop was reported as seeing the Ketch while out fishing with mates, did his evidence come up?

There were many many eyewitness sighting of the ketch. The one you refer to was dismissed by Pope as they were no longer looking for a ketch. They had their man. There were 2 other off duty policeman witnesses ans also a report filed by an on duty cop and this was also dismissed

awayatc
18th December 2017, 20:52
The whole country is a botch up.

Air NZ is still having good deals on one way tickets to anywhere......

feel free to purchase one

Bikemad
18th December 2017, 21:14
The whole country is a botch up.

pffft.......trump blowjob boy no doubt.....

pete376403
18th December 2017, 22:19
There were many many eyewitness sighting of the ketch. The one you refer to was dismissed by Pope as they were no longer looking for a ketch. They had their man. There were 2 other off duty policeman witnesses ans also a report filed by an on duty cop and this was also dismissed
Not the first time a pope has been deemed infallible.

HenryDorsetCase
19th December 2017, 07:20
Not the first time a pope has been deemed infallible.

bro, do you even catholic? ALL popes are infallible.

F5 Dave
19th December 2017, 12:20
Yeah. Even the one who died like 3 weeks into the gig. God planned that.

F5 Dave
19th December 2017, 12:28
The problem with eyewitness reports is they should only be fully trusted if a non human is involved. The brain takes shortcuts and is a real awesome bit of kit for storing data. But it is too easily influenced and convincing to its operator. Plenty of experiments see this.

I once chased a car and got its plate. Wrote it down straight away while chanting it. And fucked it up.:rolleyes: I was sure I'd got it right.

Now good sir, 8 nights ago we're looking for people who were in the vicinity. . Etc.

jasonu
19th December 2017, 12:50
Air NZ is still having good deals on one way tickets to anywhere......

feel free to purchase one

Did that 20 years ago.:2thumbsup

Grumph
19th December 2017, 15:00
Did that 20 years ago.:2thumbsup

To misquote the Eagles....You can check out any time you like, but apparently you can never leave....

HenryDorsetCase
19th December 2017, 15:43
Yeah. Even the one who died like 3 weeks into the gig. God planned that.

god also planned famine, war, casual random death, disfigured children, Trump, Ebola and the zombie apocalypse. If you're into that sort of stuff.

F5 Dave
19th December 2017, 17:14
As long as they aren't gay zombies.

Jesus don't like a queer. (The devil put dinosaurs here).

Kickaha
19th December 2017, 17:20
god also planned famine, war, casual random death, disfigured children, Trump, Ebola and the zombie apocalypse. If you're into that sort of stuff.

You forgot Lawyers

oldrider
19th December 2017, 17:29
god also planned famine, war, casual random death, disfigured children, Trump, Ebola and the zombie apocalypse. If you're into that sort of stuff.

Apparently God planned a trip to Israel recently too - Netanyahu wouldn't let him in! :oi-grr:

Swoop
21st December 2017, 14:31
Ignore the presenter here...

"Inadvertent fraud" is an interesting phrase to use, but quite appropriate. A lot of things ring bells with the Watson case here...

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