Boots

[globe]

Ok, here we go, i know i'll get grief for this but onwards....

I'm a vegan, therefore i do not wear leather. Anyone here wear non leather biking boots, and if so do you rate/recommend them? I am after a casual style not a racing, off road style.

Alternatively, I have synthetic steel safety boots lace up from work that I wear at the moment, and I have a good pair of sturdy walking boots. Both of these are lace up and come up above the ankle so have good support.

Is there a reason one should wear motorbike specific boots or will my current footwear do a good job ? interested in peoples thoughts,

cheers

[Murray]

I'm a vegan, therefore i do not wear leather.

Don't Latte put out leather??

[caspernz]

If you look closely at what bike boots are made of, most of it is synthetic stuff anyway.

And yes you're better off wearing boots meant for biking, flexible in the right places and strong in the right places.

[eldog]

Don’t have any idea about non leather boots but....


will depend on what style of off-road you want to do.

protection of Achilles, ankle, chalk, heel etc are all important.
and so is walking.

Being a vegan shouldn't mean that you can’t check out the local shops for different styles/options then find one suitable for your views.

gortex is handy.

[pritch]

Most road/off road/touring boots will have some leather. You don't want race style boots but some of the race boots are all plastic. You may find what you want but you're making it hard for yourself.

[jellywrestler]

I'm a vegan, therefore i do not wear leather.

so where do you ride then, all the roads have cruely taken away a substantial amount of grazing area from the cows who make the leather, so it would by wrong to use those, plus anytime you saw a dead animal you would undoubtedly have to have counselling.
how did you get on finding a helmet with a leatherless strap?

[globe]

so where do you ride then, all the roads have cruely taken away a substantial amount of grazing area from the cows who make the leather, so it would by wrong to use those, plus anytime you saw a dead animal you would undoubtedly have to have counselling.
how did you get on finding a helmet with a leatherless strap?


Zzzzzzzzzz. I’m not going to defend my view I don’t need to, it’s a decision I’ve taken, at least you’ve got that off your chest. it sounds your unable to help so thanks for your contribution, interesting points but for a different conversation. Cheers 👍

[jellywrestler]

Is there a reason one should wear motorbike specific boots or will my current footwear do a good job ? interested in peoples thoughts,

cheers

you did expect it! bike boots offer crash protection, ankle abrasion protection, even just to hold a smashed foot together is one of their jobs (even better for you as don't like the sight of meat)
also they are taller so you don't get that wet patch where the trousers run out before the footwear starts.
most shit has details on what it's made from, or you may find it on the internaughty but don't google wet patch, it might be a little disturbing

[tigertim20]

Most people think Vegans are cunts. You should have said you were allergic to leather, you'd get less ridicule.

I also think Vegans are cunts, but ill put that aside long enough to say:

from this website:
https://www.thoughtco.com/is-there-no-such-thing-as-vegan-127588

an extract:

Tires, rubber, paint, glue, and plastics: Because these are not foods, we are not entitled to know what ingredients go into our tires and other rubber and plastic products. These often contain chemicals and additives of animal origins. Along these lines, paint, glue and other chemicals often contain animal products. Shellac, as explained above, comes from insects.

My point is, it's all very well to want to live by a moral ideology, but realistically, youre probably relying on and using animal products daily in way you don't even realise - perhaps for the sake of a quality boot, that will likely last you more than a decade, you should make the small sacrifice to your ideology for the sake of safety?
Bike boots are made for a very specific purpose - ask anyone who races and has crashed how they felt with their appropriate boots, vs how theyd feel with non motorcycle specific alternatives.

You could go for one of the all plastic race style boots if youre prepared to make a sacrifice on style?

Or maybe you could design your own vegan boots,and get some 8 year old chinese kids to make them for $1 a day - youll profit, and no animals were harmed.

[Pound]

I'm a vegan, therefore i do not wear leather.

Take your sanctimonious attitude and gtfo of here..... ;)

[globe]

Most people think Vegans are cunts. You should have said you were allergic to leather, you'd get less ridicule.

Why? I’m not ashamed of my stance, I’ve had shit like this for 20 years, water off a ducks back mate.

But you in relation to your view on vegans as Roy Chubby Brown once said “you are what you eat”. Guess that also makes you a prick :killingme

[Pound]

Why do the vast majority of Vegans feel the need to push their sanctimonious eating habits / life styles upon meat eaters?

EVERYBODY on this planet is a hypocrite, end of story, so lets just accept that fact, move on, respect otherschoices, and don't force them upon anybody else. :yes:

[jellywrestler]

Why? I’m not ashamed of my stance, I’ve had shit like this for 20 years, water off a ducks back mate.



what does the duck think of this, exploiting an animal it seems?

[globe]

what does the duck think of this, exploiting an animal it seems?

:rofl: :rofl:

[globe]

Why do the vast majority of Vegans feel the need to push their sanctimonious eating habits / life styles upon meat eaters

No idea mate, me? I try not to cos it winds people up. I also ask why people find the need to question my stance and try and make something outta nothing, but like I said after all this time you just roll with it, roll your eyes and move on. So yup I agree, you do what you feel is right and he happy that you’re being true to yourself, Peace

[tigertim20]

Why? I’m not ashamed of my stance, I’ve had shit like this for 20 years, water off a ducks back mate.

But you in relation to your view on vegans as Roy Chubby Brown once said “you are what you eat”.

if you are what you eat, Im a pussy I guess.

I did actually provide you with some reasonable advice, but like most vegans, your head is stuck too far up your own arse to see the advice, in favour of banging on further about your perceived moral superiority.

fucking vegans:bash:

[EJK]

Ok, here we go, i know i'll get grief for this but onwards....

I'm a vegan,

You just had to say that in the first line..

[globe]

Anyway onwards and upwards, been some good advice, as was suggested and was my plan I will be visiting the LBS to see what they have, thanks for your help chaps and chapesses, shame it all went a bit south, I've enjoyed reading all the comments over my herbal tea and tofu burger....

[pritch]

Some of you guys are tough - it was a civil question.

[Pound]

No idea mate, me? I try not to cos it winds people up. I also ask why people find the need to question my stance and try and make something outta nothing, but like I said after all this time you just roll with it, roll your eyes and move on. So yup I agree, you do what you feel is right and he happy that you’re being true to yourself, Peace


Reading that reply, you sound like one of the more reasonable ones I've encountered.

Just for you, I'll eat a 2 dolphins on your behalf. ;)

[WALRUS]

My sister is a pretty committed vegan and has fully vegan-y bike gear and most of it seems pretty good stuff...

Next time I see her, I'll ask her and grab some links for you :cool:

[globe]

Reading that reply, you sound like one of the more reasonable ones I've encountered.

Just for you, I'll eat a 2 dolphins on your behalf. ;)

Very gracious of you sir, I'll plant some sunflowers on your behalf :niceone:

[globe]

My sister is a pretty committed vegan and has fully vegan-y bike gear and most of it seems pretty good stuff...

Next time I see her, I'll ask her and grab some links for you :cool:

Legend, thanks dude

[rambaldi]

Ok, here we go, i know i'll get grief for this but onwards....

I'm a vegan, therefore i do not wear leather. Anyone here wear non leather biking boots, and if so do you rate/recommend them? I am after a casual style not a racing, off road style.

Alternatively, I have synthetic steel safety boots lace up from work that I wear at the moment, and I have a good pair of sturdy walking boots. Both of these are lace up and come up above the ankle so have good support.

Is there a reason one should wear motorbike specific boots or will my current footwear do a good job ? interested in peoples thoughts,

cheers

I don't know what they are actually made out of but Klim might have something suitable https://www.klim.com/Outlander-GTX-Boot-3926-000 A few of their other boots don't explicitly say leather so maybe they have more options for you in the specific style you are after. It might pay to contact them to double check. Expect to pay Klim prices though.

[WALRUS]

Legend, thanks dude

I just gave her a quick ring and she told me that all her Vegan gear these days is Dainese. She had some other stuff while she was living in Darwin but can't remember what it was haha

Maybe this site will help you on your quest? https://veganliftz.com/best-vegan-motorcycle-gear/

[WALRUS]

Also, always worth keeping up with what Alien Moto is doing, if Veganism is yo' thang ;)

http://www.alienmoto.se/product.html

[Pound]

Very gracious of you sir, I'll plant some sunflowers on your behalf :niceone:

Heh heh, thanks, I do like sunflowers.

Hey you're ok in my books.

Hope you find what you're looking for. :msn-wink:

[jellywrestler]

over my herbal tea and tofu burger.... packaged in cardboard boxes made from birdies homes, displacing all sorts of gods creatures.

[jellywrestler]

Just for you, I'll eat a 2 dolphins on your behalf. ;) dolphins aren't real animals, they're just vegan sharks

[jellywrestler]

I just gave her a quick ring and she told me that all her Vegan gear these days is Dainese.

bet there staff work hard and have to eat more animals for extra energy so even their gear will induce some vegan guilt.

[Pound]

dolphins aren't real animals, they're just vegan sharks


Those bumper stickers that say "Save the Dolphins!" piss me off.....

When was the last time a Dolphin ever did anything for you?

[jellywrestler]

Those bumper stickers that say "Save the Dolphins!" piss me off.....

When was the last time a Dolphin ever did anything for you?

their torches used to be spectacular, now of course they're extinct with the evolution of led torches.

[Tofu]

I wouldn't of said the 'V' word myself :D

The mrs is looking at vegan boots and seen the Dainese brand or what ever it is does some casual hi top style riding shoes. Never seen vegan riding boots tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3lCoYcced0&app=desktop

[globe]

I wouldn't of said the 'V' word myself :D

The mrs is looking at vegan boots and seen the Dainese brand or what ever it is does some casual hi top style riding shoes. Never seen vegan riding boots tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3lCoYcced0&app=desktop

Nice one, thanks

[Cosmik de Bris]

Wow, this site has it's bullies and now it's full of people passing judgment on the lifestyle of others. Get a grip people, start talking about what this site is for. We're supposed to be into biking and support each other not behave like children on a playground.

Please, don't respond to anyone who bullies or denigrates others on this site, if they don't get the attention they crave they may go away. I know this is a fanciful hope but...

Cheers

[R650R]

Most people think Vegans are cunts. You should have said you were allergic to leather, you'd get less ridicule.

I also think Vegans are cunts, but ill put that aside long enough to say:

from this website:
https://www.thoughtco.com/is-there-no-such-thing-as-vegan-127588

an extract:

Tires, rubber, paint, glue, and plastics: Because these are not foods, we are not entitled to know what ingredients go into our tires and other rubber and plastic products. These often contain chemicals and additives of animal origins. Along these lines, paint, glue and other chemicals often contain animal products. Shellac, as explained above, comes from insects.

My point is, it's all very well to want to live by a moral ideology, but realistically, youre probably relying on and using animal products daily in way you don't even realise - perhaps for the sake of a quality boot, that will likely last you more than a decade, you should make the small sacrifice to your ideology for the sake of safety?
Bike boots are made for a very specific purpose - ask anyone who races and has crashed how they felt with their appropriate boots, vs how theyd feel with non motorcycle specific alternatives.

You could go for one of the all plastic race style boots if youre prepared to make a sacrifice on style?

Or maybe you could design your own vegan boots,and get some 8 year old chinese kids to make them for $1 a day - youll profit, and no animals were harmed.

Having been involved in grain harvesting I always snigger quietly at vegans no animals harmed tripe lol....

When a large mechanized harvester machine goes through a field Darwin takes effect and a few rats/cats/rabbits etc that are slow learners end up in the wheat bin... then theres same agaoin when grains tored in sheds/silos and loaded out to trucks.... At grain mills they test for nitrogen levels which is really just a measure of how much rat piss is on it....
Then there's lollies and deserts with gelatin made from pigs lips/noses etc....
Ever walk on a wool carpet...????
Never mind too that industrial cropping of vegetables is displacing animals from normal habitats...
Millions if not billions of amazon rainforest decimated to grow soy crops....
the list goes on.....

[R650R]

Those bumper stickers that say "Save the Dolphins!" piss me off.....

When was the last time a Dolphin ever did anything for you?

The bastards come on shore at night and steal my beer. I know its them because you find them dead on the beach in the morning with the plastic ring thingys from the six packs.
Sometimes the feckers raid paknsave too but they cant swim there way out of a shopping bag let alone make a getaway....

[Pound]

The bastards come on shore at night and steal my beer. I know its them because you find them dead on the beach in the morning with the plastic ring thingys from the six packs.
Sometimes the feckers raid paknsave too but they cant swim there way out of a shopping bag let alone make a getaway....


Bwahahaha!

I read that with a mouthful of BBQ Dolphin sandwich........ ;)

[Banditbandit]

I'm a vegan, therefore ...

How do you cope with bugs in the teeth?


Wow, this site has it's bullies and now it's full of people passing judgment on the lifestyle of others. Get a grip people, start talking about what this site is for. We're supposed to be into biking and support each other not behave like children on a playground.

Please, don't respond to anyone who bullies or denigrates others on this site, if they don't get the attention they crave they may go away. I know this is a fanciful hope but...

Cheers

Yeah mate - the dream of biker brotherhood - it's bullshit - bikers can be the biggest pack of pricks out there ..

[merv]

Seems like Sidi make vegan boots as per the link on post #34 so see if you can source the models he talks about.

Also some info here:

https://veganliftz.com/best-vegan-motorcycle-gear/

[granstar]

Nice one, thanks

Good luck with the search, keep scrolling the interweb with yer finger on that ....MOUSE, something is bound to come along, maybe some hemp boots? :msn-wink: