Tommy Robinson

[jasonu]

https://www.ktvz.com/news/national-world/police-stop-mcdonalds-from-selling-milkshakes-near-nigel-farage-rally/1079041109

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W4e4bUB4iU

[pritch]

I see that overnight Nigel Farage wore a milkshake. It would be nice to think that if this became a trend politicians might be more careful what they said, but that's not very realistic.

[scott411]

the High court found him Guilty

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/09/tommy-robinson-encouraged-vigilante-action-judges-say

and look, he gave reasons for the creeps to try an appeal, although the lawyers that filed it should be vilified as well, ,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-court-case-facebook-live-video-judge-latest-a8996626.html

[husaberg]

the High court found him Guilty

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/09/tommy-robinson-encouraged-vigilante-action-judges-say

and look, he gave reasons for the creeps to try an appeal, although the lawyers that filed it should be vilified as well, ,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-court-case-facebook-live-video-judge-latest-a8996626.html

Well what do you know he was guilty of what everyone with a ounce of common sense knew he was guilty of all along, So much for "the conspiracy to keep him quiet"........
I am sure ol AKA will be peddling a book about the conspiracy against him soon.

[Katman]

And if he goes back to prison and is killed there, it will take us back to the premise of my first post.

There would be violence on the streets of England like we haven't seen before.

[husaberg]

So what name would they write on the headstone he has so many Alias and nom de plumes.
So how many more times does he need to be found guilty before you consider him guilty...........

[sidecar bob]

And if he goes back to prison and is killed there, it will take us back to the premise of my first post.

There would be violence on the streets of England like we haven't seen before.

That's quite a sweeping generalisation. There's a lot of streets in England.
Did you have any street in mind in paticular? Or even a preferred shire?

[husaberg]

That's quite a sweeping generalisation. There's a lot of streets in England.
Did you have any street in mind in paticular? Or even a preferred shire?

One would think all the violent acts that occur are somewhat novel despite its location.

the premise of his first posts was he knows f all............. and claimed it was a cover up.............


So does anyone have any views on this Tommy Robinson issue or has the media black out been slick enough that no-one knows what the fuck I'm on about?
his second post was he had never heard about him anyway.
But there could be trouble ,which there wasnt of course............


I know very little about him but if what I'm reading is correct, if he should be killed in prison we could see violence on the streets of England like we haven't seen before.

It would be foolish to think that this is going to blow over just by keeping him imprisoned.

[pritch]

Tommy was pushing his luck, he arrived at court late. He was wearing a tee shirt proclaiming ?Jailed for journalism? and carrying a bag. He knew which way the wind was blowing.

He got nine months, less time served, less good behaviour, he?ll be out in about ten weeks.

His lawyer must have been reading Katman. He requested a private room for his client. The judge basically told him, ?not my problem?.

For the next ten weeks the little thug is where he belongs.

[scott411]

well he did do a remarkable thing tho,

some people actually liked a parking warden for a little bit, thats got to be a first,

https://www.express.co.uk/videos/6055845838001/Tommy-Robinson-supporter-s-bus-given-ticket-by-traffic-warden

[austingtir]

Ima let you in on a little secret. The British elite are pedophiles too, that's why they invite Islam and censor criticism of its pedophilia.







https://i.redd.it/zp5ryn7bwp931.jpg

[austingtir]

It's all about appearances. Virtue-signaling. The whole of their government is a righteousness contest, where nobody wins and everyone loses except those in power, who don't have to deal with the shithole they're making. Everything they do is about getting re-elected, by the same "virtuous" assholes who believe they're winning their own righteousness contest. It goes on, ad infinitum, until you turn around one day and the only people in power are the ones who want you - and your whole way of life - gone.

It's a fucking travesty. Thousands of years of rich history and great rule, all thrown away by a single generation of self-hating pussies trying to outdo each other on who can tell on their neighbor the fastest for not conforming to the "new norm". How one or two singular generations can literally give away - hand over fist - what centuries of hard work, blood, sweat, and tears have built? Holy fuck. It's incomprehensible.

Just below the feet of this clown-fueled shitshow, six feet down, I imagine hundreds of millions of Brits, spinning in their graves.


Sound familiar? Because thats our future to if we continue to give power to the likes of Labour, National, NZfirst, Greens and ACT.

[Kickaha]

Ima let you in on a little secret. The British elite are pedophiles too

Not very secret if you know about it

Your evidence to back this up is where?

[Katman]

Not very secret if you know about it

Your evidence to back this up is where?

Well I suspect Prince Andrew will be starting to sweat some.

[nerrrd]

Thousands of years of rich history and great rule...

LOL.


Holy fuck. It's incomprehensible.

Now that I can agree with.

[austingtir]

Well I suspect Prince Andrew will be starting to sweat some.

"sweating like a rapist" as Marc Ellis would say.

Just bear in mind he's the only one in the royal family that's been actually caught with his hand in the cookie jar and of course the MSM covered for him to some extent imo. The Royal family (ie the queen) would of done some back room deal with the media to shut them up im sure.

I notice things like Harry having a good relationship with B Obama and the fact that Trump clearly grinds both of their gears. That alone raises massive red flags to me. (barry imo is a homo and a closet muslim which is an odd combo but I digress).

Will be very interesting if they get that girl Rachel Chandler to come testify.

They are going down. Trump is clearly telling the justice department to go looking for these people. Like Bill Clintons absurd statment that had ridiculous comparisons to his monica lewinsky speech..... It will be interesting if Prince Andrew or the Royal family look to get ahead of the curb and issue a damage control statement.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1149688349009092611


The general public is totally clueless when it comes to this stuff. For instance. Look into Epstein's main girlfriend/wife whats her last name and where did she come from? She is the direct connection to the Royal family among others imo. HINT: One of the six (former) most powerful families in the world!

[pritch]

They are going down. Trump is clearly telling the justice department to go looking for these people.

Now that is truly ridiculous. Trump is donkey deep in all this sex offending. Over twenty credible accounts of sexual assault, his own admission that he "grabs them by the pussy", the allegations by a thirteen year old that he beat her, raped her and threatened her family, the allegation that Trump fell out with Epstein arguing as to who would "pop the cherry" of another underage girl.

"They" may indeed go down, but if there's any justice at all Trump is going down with them.

[austingtir]

Now that is truly ridiculous. Trump is donkey deep in all this sex offending. Over twenty credible accounts of sexual assault, his own admission that he "grabs them by the pussy", the allegations by a thirteen year old that he beat her, raped her and threatened her family, the allegation that Trump fell out with Epstein arguing as to who would "pop the cherry" of another underage girl.

"They" may indeed go down, but if there's any justice at all Trump is going down with them.


Im of the opinion that if any republicans have done the same as all the democrats that are about to go down then they should go down to and that includes Trump.

The fact of the matter is Trump is still the only reason the entire epstein thing came to light.

You have not been paying attention at all. There are thousands of pedophiles being rounded up of the last three years of Trump being elected. Even today in Toronto a massive pedophile network has been brought to light.

Its funny when the anti trump delusion crowd dont realize whats about to happen and still go off guns blazing 24/7

You realize NXIVM Alison Mack (smallville fame) is singing like a canary right now and she and Reniere have connections directly to the Clintons and Epstein?

You should be the poster child for TDS seriously.

How come Epstein likes sundiles (theres one on his island aswell), has a military grade communication tower, pigs and a runway/Hanger on his new mexico ranch (look at the video below)?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/billionaires-mexico-ranch-linked-investigation-64309329


Whats actually happening imo is Trump is shutting down CIA/Mossad ratlines that have been in existance for decades. But people like you are to dimwitted to realize the ramifications. Or are shills that are trying to help cover up these facts (in your case im beginning to wonder).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiDD-95gYsk


Once you understand Epstein was originally a pilot running these ratlines it all begins to make alot more sense. Thats how he really made his millions and is hoping all over the world like he does. And why he was able to get away with all for so long. You cant run an operation like this without the government being involved at some level! Obviously the investigation is only going to focus on the pedophile/child trafficking angle as to expose the CIA/Mossad would cause major headaches.

Ask yourself why would this Waxner character give Epstein a 11 million dollar mansion for 1 dollar?


https://media1.tenor.com/images/b06fbd6957bd6fe8f37b67a052ac2174/tenor.gif?itemid=14089251

[husaberg]

Now that is truly ridiculous. Trump is donkey deep in all this sex offending. Over twenty credible accounts of sexual assault, his own admission that he "grabs them by the pussy", the allegations by a thirteen year old that he beat her, raped her and threatened her family, the allegation that Trump fell out with Epstein arguing as to who would "pop the cherry" of another underage girl.

"They" may indeed go down, but if there's any justice at all Trump is going down with them.

Not only that for years trump now claims to have known of his offending wheich he even undertook on trumps property.
One of the lawsuits against him during his campaign named both him and Epstein

[Kickaha]

Even today in Toronto a massive pedophile network has been brought to light.

Today or 2016 before Trump was even elected ?

[austingtir]

Not only that for years trump now claims to have known of his offending wheich he even undertook on trumps property.
One of the lawsuits against him during his campaign named both him and Epstein


LOL so what do you think would of happened to Epstein had Hillary got in? = NOTHING!

Trump knew of his offending because Epstein was trying it on at Mar a Lago and got caught in the act with a patrons daughter!! Thats why Trump knows about the guy and then was informed further by this guy David Pecker or whatever his names was. THAT IS WHY TRUMP KNOWS ABOUT EPSTEIN!!

Your delusion levels are extreme bro. Its time to stop posting.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2017/8oqayg.gif


There are ZERO legitimate connections to pin on Trump otherwise fusion GPS and co would of already found them. You are beating and well and truly dead horse and its actually hilarious to watch.

[pritch]

Tommy Robinson who, despite his claim is not a journalist, shit he isn't even Tommy Robinson, is in jail. The fuckwit fringe claim he's a political prisoner.

He claims that he's against paedophilia. Strange that about a dozen of his mates in the EDL were guilty of a variety of sexual offences against both boys and girls, the youngest was just ten. He wasn't bothered then.

He doesn't like illegal immigrants. He was busted trying to enter the US with a false passport. An illegal immigrant himself.

He's just a low life conman. Nobody should waste any sympathy on the little shit.

[oldrider]

The common denominator here is crime! - Paedophilia etc - what difference does it make if they are left or right - Democrat or Republican? - they either are or are not CRIMINALS! :msn-wink:

If they are - Lock the bastards up - :Police:

[austingtir]

The common denominator here is crime! - Paedophilia etc - what difference does it make if they are left or right - Democrat or Republican? - they either are or are not CRIMINALS! :msn-wink:

If they are - Lock the bastards up - :Police:


I agree.

But again Trump wont be one of the Republicans.


What they are looking to happen is the world to return back to a "normal" level of pedophilia, child/people smuggling, drug running, opoids etc.

Not what is currently happening where it is rampant and most people still have no idea.

[husaberg]

Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein ? the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpstc9r_esA

Johnson?s lawsuit mentioned Trump?s friendship with Epstein, and a comment Trump made in 2002 about their respective tastes in women: ?I?ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He?s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.?

The lawsuit alleged a number of charges against both Trump and Epstein, including rape, sexual abuse, assault and battery, and false imprisonment. Johnson said that when she was 13, Epstein lured her to parties at his apartment by promising ?money and a modeling career.?

Johnson said Trump had sexual contact with her at four of those parties, including tying her to a bed and violently raping her in a ?savage sexual attack.? The lawsuit said Johnson ?loudly pleaded? with Trump to stop, but that he responded by ?violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.?

After that, Trump allegedly threatened to harm or kill Johnson and her family if she ever told anyone. Johnson said Trump told her he could make them ?disappear? like Maria ? a 12-year-old girl Johnson says Trump also forced her to have sexual contact with, and whom Johnson hadn?t seen since that encounter.

Johnson also accused Epstein of raping her ?anally and vaginally despite her loud pleas to stop,? and that he ?attempted to strike Plaintiff about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed that he, Defendant Epstein, rather than Defendant Trump, should have been the one who took Plaintiff?s virginity.?

The court filings also included a statement from ?Tiffany Doe,? another anonymous woman, who said that she witnessed the rapes and procured the young girls for the parties, and ?Joan Doe,? a classmate of the victim who said she was told about the rapes during the following school year. Tiffany Doe said that Epstein and Trump knew that Johnson was 13.

Trump allegedly threw out Espstine over a sexual assult he knew about over three years ago, three years ago and not a peep from trump about it, dont act like he was worried about saying thinks that could jeopardise a court case because he does that on a daily basis.

[austingtir]

^^Sigh, you guys are to easy. And way to slow!!

She dropped the case because she's a delusional drug addict like you WHO MADE THE ENTIRE THING UP!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3894806/Woman-alleged-raped-Donald-Trump-13-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-DROPS-case-casting-doubt-truth-claims.html


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-07/trump-was-only-one-help-prosecutor-2009-epstein-case

From 5 minutes in listen to what this lawyer says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=296&v=Yqb59n69Z80


So lets put you lots mental midget skills to the test here: Why if theres practically thousands of famous names in Epsteins infamous "black book" why is it that TRUMP is the ONLY one to help out the prosecution lawyer?? (if you watch the vid the other witness did something stupid got put in prison and was killed which was obviously rather convenient for Epstein and co)

TRUMP was the only one boyos out hundreds if not thousands of hugely influential and famous people. (From Mick Jagger to Richard Branson to Courtney Love)

[husaberg]

So all allegations of sexual assault made against Epstein are true ,Unless they include trump..........plus all investigations made by the FBI are fake unless they also dont include trump.......fascinating

During the press conference, FBI special director Bill Sweeney emphasized that the Epstein case was one of the highest on the federal docket, and that the government was actively looking for other victims to come forward. He urged any of Epstein?s alleged victims to contact 1800-CALL-FBI with any information.


Trump Is Angry That the FBI Won?t Endorse His Theory of Victimhood
The president has already fired an FBI director and an acting director. Now he?s gunning for the present director, Chris Wray.


President Trump on Saturday launched a scathing Twitter attack against his prominent critic, former acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe.
Referencing a tweet about McCabe?s book, The Threat: How the FBI Protects America in the Age of Terror and Trump, the president called him a ?sleazebag.?
?Andy McCabe is a major sleazebag,? Trump tweeted. ?Among many other things, he took massive amounts of money from Crooked Hillary reps, for wife?s campaign, while Hillary was under ?investigation? by FBI!?


Trump Labor Secretary Alex Acosta resigns amid pressure from Jeffrey Epstein sex traffic case
Acosta made the announcement to reporters while standing next to President Donald Trump outside the White House. Trump said Acosta had called him Friday morning and that it was Acosta’s decision to quit.
“This was him, not me, because I’m with him,” Trump said in a lengthy exchange with the press before departing the White House en route to events in Wisconsin and Ohio. “I said, ‘You don’t have to do this.’”
The resignation came two days after Acosta gave a news conference in which he defended a controversial non-prosecution agreement he had made with Epstein’s lawyers in 2007, when Acosta was the top prosecutor in Miami
The non-prosecution agreement struck between Epstein and Acosta’s office was also concealed from the victims in the case. A Florida judge ruled in February 2019 that the team of Miami prosecutors led by Acosta broke the law when they hid the deal from the more than 30 underage victims who had allegedly been sexually abused by Epstein.


As US Attorney, he engaged in an unconscionable agreement w/Jeffrey Epstein kept secret from courageous, young victims preventing them from seeking justice. This was known by @POTUS when he appointed him to the cabinet."


The non-prosecution agreement also protected the alleged co-conspirators who helped recruit the girls, and contained a provision ensuring the deal "will not be made part of any public record.

[austingtir]

So all allegations of sexual assault made against Epstein are true ,Unless they include trump..........plus all investigations made by the FBI are fake unless they also dont include trump.......fascinating

During the press conference, FBI special director Bill Sweeney emphasized that the Epstein case was one of the highest on the federal docket, and that the government was actively looking for other victims to come forward. He urged any of Epstein?s alleged victims to contact 1800-CALL-FBI with any information.






Acosta made the announcement to reporters while standing next to President Donald Trump outside the White House. Trump said Acosta had called him Friday morning and that it was Acosta?s decision to quit.
?This was him, not me, because I?m with him,? Trump said in a lengthy exchange with the press before departing the White House en route to events in Wisconsin and Ohio. ?I said, ?You don?t have to do this.??


Well its pretty simple the "evidence" you are claiming against Trump are all totally circumstantial and as I said if anyone was going to find dirt on Trump in this manner fusion GPS who were getting paid by Hillary and co would of already found it years ago. + the fact they've had another 3 years to dig dirt on him and found exactly nothing.

Epstein was operating like three blocks way from Trumps Mar a Lago resort which is why he was going around there when he was in the area and not off in his other locations raping everyone left right and centre....


Again that TDS is getting the best of you.

If you think random people vaguely connected to Trump in all sorts of random ways is enough to bring down a sitting president your retarded.


Just post one piece of evidence I cant refute just one I'll wait.

[Laava]

So lets put you lots mental midget skills to the test here:

Well, here we go, this is where it all falls apart for you. You address everybody with this expression of disdain, super ironically, call everyone a fascist (or whatever buzzword you are currently using) who's opinion is different to yours and then, you loudly endorse your opinion of Obamas birth certificate being faked.
What you fail to understand, time and time agin, is that no-one is going to take anything you say seriously, no-one will bother to click on any links you put up and nobody believes you when you state how learned you are on russian collusion etc yadda yadda yadda.
Hilariously, I suspect you are too retarded and brainwashed to understand that you just appear endlessly foolish being so militant about what you believe...

[Katman]

Hilariously, I suspect you are too retarded and brainwashed to understand that you just appear endlessly foolish

Oh, the irony.

[austingtir]

^^

And this guy (laava) thinks the same doesnt apply to him....


Welcome to clown world.


https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/2aa5b23fa8.gif

[Laava]

Oh, the irony.
Oh, the predictability!
Spose it's too cloudy to be out logging "chemtrails" today eh oh enlightened one?

[Katman]

Oh, the predictability!
Spose it's too cloudy to be out logging "chemtrails" today eh oh enlightened one?

Double irony - considering one of the purposes of 'cloud seeding' is to produce rain.

[pritch]

Double irony - considering one of the purposes of 'cloud seeding' is to produce rain.

Cloud seeding and chem trails are the same thing, who knew?

[Katman]

Cloud seeding and chem trails are the same thing, who knew?

Do you agree that cloud seeding involves spreading chemicals into our atmosphere?

[Laava]

Double irony - considering one of the purposes of 'cloud seeding' is to produce rain.
Oh fucking Lol! You are the easiest wind up ever!🤡

[husaberg]

Do you agree that cloud seeding involves spreading chemicals into our atmosphere?

As does lighting a fire or riding a katana or smoking weed..........so does that make you are a cloud seeder chem trailer as as my money was on you just being a no talent assclown troll-boy

[austingtir]

Well heres the prince William connection...

Wonder when the Harry one wll turn up?

https://i.redd.it/91qipftjc6a31.jpg

[austingtir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPqq7lrE5DY

[pritch]

That guy wouldn't know shit from sugar. Yes the US Constitution guarantees free speech, primarily giving the press the right to criticise the government. There is not unlimited free speech even in the US of A.

Courts in the US can order suppression of details too. Just last night our time a federal judge banned Roger Stone from using any social media while his case proceeds.

[austingtir]

That guy wouldn't know shit from sugar. Yes the US Constitution guarantees free speech, primarily giving the press the right to criticise the government. There is not unlimited free speech even in the US of A.

Courts in the US can order suppression of details too. Just last night our time a federal judge banned Roger Stone from using any social media while his case proceeds.



Pff you wouldnt know shit from clay mate.

Just admit the UK are run by complete retards and be done with it.

They are letting pedo's walk and journalists who talk about it are being put in jail. No matter how you spin it its just complete horseshit propaganda.

[pritch]

Pff you wouldnt know shit from clay mate.

Just admit the UK are run by complete retards and be done with it.

They are letting pedo's walk and journalists who talk about it are being put in jail. No matter how you spin it its just complete horseshit propaganda.


Apart from the bit about the UK being run by retards that is total nonsense.

No journos were jailed.
No pedos walked.
TR is where he belongs.
He's not a journalist, he's not even Tommy Robinson.

[austingtir]

Apart from the bit about the UK being run by retards that is total nonsense.

No journos were jailed.
No pedos walked.
TR is where he belongs.
He's not a journalist, he's not even Tommy Robinson.

What about all the pedos in the house of commons right now? All those pedos the BBC have been covering for, for decades? All those "asian" (pakistani) pedos that used to keep coming up in the news for raping people all over the show (but we cant have that in the news so they changed laws around it). ...... "HERE IS A LIST OF 130 PAEDOPHILE COUNCILLORS OR UK POLITICAL PARTY AFFILIATED MEMBERS THEY ARE AMONG THE PEOPLE WHO HELP RUN THE UK !"
I could go on and on but these articles speak for themselves:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/29/the-child-sex-ring-around-westminsters-neck-pedophilia-scandal-britain/

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/convicted_pedophileschild_sex_ab_3

https://timetostartcaring.com/british-politics-a-list-of-mps-convicted-of-sex-offences/

[Laava]

I could go on and on / (https://timetostartcaring.com/british-politics-a-list-of-mps-convicted-of-sex-offences/)

Don't we fuckin know it!

[pritch]

All those "asian" (pakistani) pedos that used to keep coming up in the news for raping people all over the show (but we cant have that in the news so they changed laws around it). ......

https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/29/the-child-sex-ring-around-westminsters-neck-pedophilia-scandal-britain/



I wouldn't reply to this except that someone might read your crap and momentarily think you have the foggiest notion about that which you write.

The Asian pedos were fully in the news - eventually. The law has not been changed.

Twenty odd asians were charged but they don't put them all in court together. It's a court room not a bloody concert hall. They try them in groups of about five. All details in the early cases are suppressed so as not to jeopardise the later cases. When all the cases are complete then details of all the cases are released.

'Robinson' had been warned that what he was doing in an early trial was jeopardising later trials. He was given a suspended sentence and told if he did it again he would go to jail. The stupid fuck did it again and now he's in jail. End of.


That link is 2015. I think that if you check again 'Nick' was nowhere near as credible as that article states and ultimately the case was dropped. The enthusiasm demonstrated by police sometimes overwhelms their judgement. This operation was one such. Oh, and it turns out Nick was a bit of a pedo himself. Bloody marvellous!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/11/satanic-abuse-panic-nick-dolphin-square-westminster-paedophile-ring

One thing Nick and 'Tommy' have in common though; they were both quick to set up appeals for funds so that gullible twats could part with their hard earned.

[pritch]

Ya gotta love Tommy Robinson. He was worried about the Muslim prisoners but it turns out none of the inmates like him. He arrived in jail strutting around as if he was a celebrity. Nobody was impressed.

It's understood that Robinson accused another inmate, an old age pensioner, of disrespecting him. He is said to have tried to intimidate the pensioner, after some pushing and shoving, the 70 year old decked Robinson with a single punch. The pensioner had no idea who his victim was, but apparently in Belmarsh prison that's just how things are done.

[jasonu]

Now that is truly ridiculous. Trump is donkey deep in all this sex offending. Over twenty credible accounts of sexual assault, his own admission that he "grabs them by the pussy", the allegations by a thirteen year old that he beat her, raped her and threatened her family, the allegation that Trump fell out with Epstein arguing as to who would "pop the cherry" of another underage girl.

"They" may indeed go down, but if there's any justice at all Trump is going down with them.

Credible according to who??? Where do you get all this shit?

[pritch]

Credible according to who??? Where do you get all this shit?

Some of us read the news. And no not that weird shit that some people read. As I found out yesterday there is a lot of fake news out there though and we do need to be careful.

So I had another look. Several Brit papers reported the assault. His spokesman, and I find it odd that he actually has a spokesman, says it's fake news. Take your pick.

[Katman]

As I found out yesterday there is a lot of fake news out there though and we do need to be careful.

Fake news?

Or are you talking about the news that you just didn't bother to check the date of?

[pritch]

:blink:
Fake news?

Or are you talking about the news that you just didn't bother to check the date of?

Partly. Last night that Gym J story was still being posted on social media as being current.

New Zealand is not immune, it's reported today that Family First are putting out bullshit scare stories about marijuana prior to the referendum. That's not helpful.

[Katman]

Last night that Gym J story was still being posted on social media as being current.

Bullshit - you just didn't bother to check it closely enough.

Something you're awfully quick to accuse others of.

[jasonu]

That guy wouldn't know shit from sugar. Yes the US Constitution guarantees free speech, primarily giving the press the right to criticise the government. There is not unlimited free speech even in the US of A.

Courts in the US can order suppression of details too. Just last night our time a federal judge banned Roger Stone from using any social media while his case proceeds.

Are you sure you are not referring to something that happened in 2018?

[jasonu]

That guy wouldn't know shit from sugar. .

I'll bet he can tell the date better than you.

[pritch]

Bullshit - you just didn't bother to check it closely enough.

Something you're awfully quick to accuse others of.

Back in the real world, it has been posted as hot news again today.

[Katman]

Back in the real world, it has been posted as hot news again today.

Check the date this time.

[pritch]

Check the date this time.

What I'm trying to say and what you seem incapable of grasping, is that the Rolling Stone article is still being posted on social media as if it's current. You know it's not, and I know it's not - now. Thousands though don't realise it's not current and it keeps getting posted as if it is.

[Katman]

What I'm trying to say and what you seem incapable of grasping, is that the Rolling Stone article is still being posted on social media as if it's current. You know it's not, and I know it's not - now. Thousands though don't realise it's not current and it keeps getting posted as if it is.

Well you obviously saw a date on it - for you to specifically mention July 18th.

[Katman]

See the date?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jim-jordan-ohio-state-700578/ :weird:

All you're trying to do now is cover up the fact that your smartarse "try and keep up" comment blew up in your face.

[husaberg]

https://meggitymegs.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/attention_whore.jpg

[austingtir]

Ya gotta love Tommy Robinson. He was worried about the Muslim prisoners but it turns out none of the inmates like him. He arrived in jail strutting around as if he was a celebrity. Nobody was impressed.

It's understood that Robinson accused another inmate, an old age pensioner, of disrespecting him. He is said to have tried to intimidate the pensioner, after some pushing and shoving, the 70 year old decked Robinson with a single punch. The pensioner had no idea who his victim was, but apparently in Belmarsh prison that's just how things are done.


Man your good at being wrong I'll give you that!! Why is everything you post outed as fake news within a week?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-bzEuA29k

[pritch]

Man your good at being wrong I'll give you that!! Why is everything you post outed as fake news within a week?


Everything? OK so I watched that clip which will probably be the one and only time I watch Avi. I know something of who he is, his reputation precedes him and I don't normally waste time watching or listening to people who hold those beliefs. I can see why you might though.

[pete376403]

Where is Azi Yemini (ironic a wog is Tommy Robinsons representative) proof that the alleged assault never happened and the Daily Star was making it up? The whole article is just a big long rant saying not true, not true, but no proof. Could it be fake, fake news? certainly no retraction or apology on the Daily Star web site.

[austingtir]

Where is Azi Yemini (ironic a wog is Tommy Robinsons representative) proof that the alleged assault never happened and the Daily Star was making it up? The whole article is just a big long rant saying not true, not true, but no proof. Could it be fake, fake news? certainly no retraction or apology on the Daily Star web site.

Every article printed on this was taken from the Daily star and every news organisation just assumed it was gospil.

Why if its gospil would the daily star remove it from their website AND issue a retraction?

I mean this is pretty simple stuff. But I get people on here are almost beyond saving with the brainwashing.

https://www.politicalite.com/media/star-from-the-truth-tabloid-rags-retract-tommy-oap-attack-story/

[austingtir]

Everything? OK so I watched that clip which will probably be the one and only time I watch Avi. I know something of who he is, his reputation precedes him and I don't normally waste time watching or listening to people who hold those beliefs. I can see why you might though.


All that matters is if he's wrong and he is not.


You are wrong and are trying to deflect from that fact.

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU AND THE DAILY STAR CLAIM TO OF HAPPENED WHEN TR WAS IN CONFINEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE TIME HE'S BEEN IN JAIL UPTO THAT TIME???????

Suck it up boyo time to put your big boy pants on and take losses like a man!

Otherwise your going to get a reputation as a purveyor of FAKE NEWS oh wait its to late for that....

People like you are why the FAKE NEWS still exists. You'll believe just about anything.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCUBJbJwixc

[pete376403]

Every article printed on this was taken from the Daily star and every news organisation just assumed it was gospil.

Why if its gospil would the daily star remove it from their website AND issue a retraction?



I

Where was the retraction from the Daily Star?

[Katman]

Where was the retraction from the Daily Star?

While a couple of sites are still showing the story, it seems to have disappeared from most other sources.

That should give you some clue as to the questionable nature of the story.

[pritch]

That should give you some clue as to the questionable nature of the story.

That's reasonably well worded. It's not as if the story was disproved. Perhaps Avi just managed to spread FUD? It happened inside a jail so it's not easy to confirm one way or the other.

[Katman]

That's reasonably well worded. It's not as if the story was disproved. Perhaps Avi just managed to spread FUD? It happened inside a jail so it's not easy to confirm one way or the other.

So you'd probably be feeling a little bit stupid for spreading this as some sort of gospel truth then, wouldn't you?


Ya gotta love Tommy Robinson. He was worried about the Muslim prisoners but it turns out none of the inmates like him. He arrived in jail strutting around as if he was a celebrity. Nobody was impressed.

It's understood that Robinson accused another inmate, an old age pensioner, of disrespecting him. He is said to have tried to intimidate the pensioner, after some pushing and shoving, the 70 year old decked Robinson with a single punch. The pensioner had no idea who his victim was, but apparently in Belmarsh prison that's just how things are done.

[jasonu]

So you'd probably be feeling a little bit stupid for spreading this as some sort of gospel truth then, wouldn't you?

Wouldn't be the first time.

[pritch]

So you'd probably be feeling a little bit stupid for spreading this as some sort of gospel truth then, wouldn't you?

Now you've lost the plot again. That was as reported in the press. OK, it was the tabloid end of the market but it was still more or less mainstream press. Nothing like the fantasy sources favoured by some hereabout.

It's now thought that a lot of the ant-vaccine stuff on social media is being spread by Russian trolls. Anybody who adopts these crackpot theories is assisting Russia's dirty work. There are some hereabout who should feel much more stupid than me.

I even seem to recall a discussion of the theory that the towers of the WTC fell faster than gravity. Like they had rocket motors on top pushing them down? And you think I should feel stupid?

Perhaps a period of quiet introspection is in order, rather than bandying silly insults around?

[Katman]

That was as reported in the press.

And you clearly couldn't give a fuck whether it was reported accurately or not.

[jasonu]

Now you've lost the plot again. That was as reported in the press. OK, it was the tabloid end of the market but it was still more or less mainstream press.

People like you and dorkberg will believe anything they read no matter how dubious the source as long as it fits your pea brain agenda.

[pritch]

And you clearly couldn't give a fuck whether it was reported accurately or not.

No you're still fucked up. My default postion would be that virtually nothing would have happened exactly as reported. Anytime that you are present at an event that is reported, the subsequent reports vary from what actually happened. So it would be safe to assume that is always the case.

If, however, something is reported in multiple newspapers it's fair to conclude that something similar to that did take place. Until it's proven otherwise.

An example. A while back Yokel mentioned a British VIP paedophile ring that he was sure was going to result in the arrest of multiple members of the establishment. A guy had made wild accusations, a police operation was launched, millions spent, the press had a field day. I prefer to wait a bit when such news breaks. Just as well, now it seems the whole thing was fantasy and the story teller has been packed off to jail. The Guardian has a podcast about it today if you want some detail.

[Katman]

I prefer to wait a bit when such news breaks.

:killingme

Dude seriously, you're either jumping to be the first to post 'breaking news' or you're posting 12 month old news and claiming it to be current.

Make up your mind.

[husaberg]

No you're still fucked up. My default postion would be that virtually nothing would have happened exactly as reported. Anytime that you are present at an event that is reported, the subsequent reports vary from what actually happened. So it would be safe to assume that is always the case.

If, however, something is reported in multiple newspapers it's fair to conclude that something similar to that did take place. Until it's proven otherwise.

An example. A while back Yokel mentioned a British VIP paedophile ring that he was sure was going to result in the arrest of multiple members of the establishment. A guy had made wild accusations, a police operation was launched, millions spent, the press had a field day. I prefer to wait a bit when such news breaks. Just as well, now it seems the whole thing was fantasy and the story teller has been packed off to jail. The Guardian has a podcast about it today if you want some detail.

Remember his Jade Helm predictions as well:weird:
Where wall-marts were some tunnel complex for the army to take over the USA.
The 911 spaceballs.
the 911 CGI
He also had the conspiracy where the shell fish were taking over the world

[husaberg]

this certainly has a ring of truth to it.
https://www.dailysquat.com/tommy-robinson-fisted-in-prison-showers-by-hard-pensioner/
https://www.dailysquat.com/tommy-robinson-finally-manages-to-get-an-asylum-seeker-imprisoned/
https://www.dailysquat.com/president-trump-appoints-kim-kardashian-as-new-director-of-national-intelligence/

https://www.dailysquat.com/funny-tinged-barely-literate-parasite-urged-to-go-back-to-where-he-came-from/
https://www.dailysquat.com/man-forced-to-resign-for-being-a-good-judge-of-character/
https://www.dailysquat.com/president-trump-appoints-kim-kardashian-as-new-director-of-national-intelligence/

[Katman]

A while back Yokel mentioned a British VIP paedophile ring that he was sure was going to result in the arrest of multiple members of the establishment.

Prince Andy isn't out of the woods yet.

[sidecar bob]

Prince Andy isn't out of the woods yet.

Was that her surname?

[austingtir]

If the full details of the Epstein case come out Andy is so screwed its not even funny. I have read this girls testimony and its pretty damning.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NINTCHDBPICT000505118110-1-e1562953270899.jpg?w=670


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/NINTCHDBPICT000504218541-e1562750887790.jpg?w=670


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9504801/prince-andrew-secret-files-sex-slave-epstein/

[jasonu]

I prefer to wait a bit when such news breaks. .

That's a fucking good one!!!

[pritch]

Prince Andy isn't out of the woods yet.

No he's not, but that's completely unrelated to the case in Britain.

[Katman]

No he's not, but that's completely unrelated to the case in Britain.

Well that depends on how deep the roots run.

[husaberg]

Well that depends on how deap the roots run.

Nice work, that B2 in school cert has served you well.

[TheDemonLord]

https://youtu.be/5XYyUXQ4g5Y?t=1783

Now, for full context - feel free to watch the entire video. I've copied the timestamp near the end when a question or 2 is raised about Tommy Robinson.

The above is a British Caribbean Black Man, discussing about the time when he spoke to Tommy Robinson - now, YMMV, but this quote:

"I don't think Tommy Robinson is a Racist, he's a Man who has seen his Town change and his Country change"

followed by "I didn't feel racism from him" - would seem to be grounds to refute the claim that he's a Racist.

Now, there is a challenge here - I'm sure you could find umpteen minority people who will tell you they consider Tommy Robinson a Racist. Of that, I have no doubt.

Can you find one, however, that has both talked to Tommy directly to form said opinion and doesn't actively identify with various socio-political movements that have a vested interest in labeling him as Racist? I'm not so sure.

If that is the case, then it would seem the oft-repeated claim of 'RACISM' is a few spokes short of a Wheel.

[scott411]

i see he's made the news again ,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8066895/Tommy-Robinson-arrested-common-assault-row-Center-Parcs-swimming-pool.html

edit - i see on twitter this morning he was apparently trying to detain a guy who may have groped an 8 year old, not sure what side is true, but the daily mail is not known as the greatest place to get news, its just the usual British trash tabloid,

[TheDemonLord]

i see he's made the news again ,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8066895/Tommy-Robinson-arrested-common-assault-row-Center-Parcs-swimming-pool.html

edit - i see on twitter this morning he was apparently trying to detain a guy who may have groped an 8 year old, not sure what side is true, but the daily mail is not known as the greatest place to get news, its just the usual British trash tabloid,

Not just an 8 Year old, his 8 year old Daughter. An 8 year old girl. It's not like one could claim 'oh I thought she was an Adult' (not that her age would make it acceptable)

Now, for added context - 3 grown Men, with no family or kids in tow go to a Family swimming pool, and one of them Grabs a little Girls Arse and admits it (and this was confirmed by the Police) - claiming it was 'a Mistake' - How do you accidentally squeeze someone's Ass?

How many of you wouldn't have knocked the fuck out of someone middle aged man who groped your daughters ass?

[sidecar bob]

How many of you wouldn't have knocked the fuck out of someone middle aged man who groped your daughters ass?

Im going to be a bit more wary next time im hanging with my father in law, now you mention that.

[husaberg]

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Picture1.pnghttps://resistinghate.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Bxf_u_QCcAAlnVf.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRLi4Ds3c_bTNUWCP34hgRewT1xpPG IPyP3h9zVEdU0foGaxkUyhttps://resistinghate.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/tommy1-1.jpghttps://resistinghate.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Tommy-Robinson-160812.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GHPUKhYFJ38/WwfZAL98PYI/AAAAAAAAjGc/L9yT5cawyys90n1CM10V0BBL9xNszyKhQCLcBGAs/s1600/747%252C%2Bedl%252C%2Btommy%2Brobinson%252C%2Bconv ictions%2Blist.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-_XyFYXsAEVoqE.jpg

[scott411]

Not just an 8 Year old, his 8 year old Daughter. An 8 year old girl. It's not like one could claim 'oh I thought she was an Adult' (not that her age would make it acceptable)

Now, for added context - 3 grown Men, with no family or kids in tow go to a Family swimming pool, and one of them Grabs a little Girls Arse and admits it (and this was confirmed by the Police) - claiming it was 'a Mistake' - How do you accidentally squeeze someone's Ass?

How many of you wouldn't have knocked the fuck out of someone middle aged man who groped your daughters ass?

I probably would as well, but this is typical, Tommy/Stephen might have the right ideas, but he goes about it the wrong way, the court debacle was the same, the suppression orders where there to protect other trials that were ongoing, , and make sure they all got done for the appalling acts,

smacking someone with his priors, is always going to get himself arrested,

[TheDemonLord]

I probably would as well, but this is typical, Tommy/Stephen might have the right ideas, but he goes about it the wrong way, the court debacle was the same, the suppression orders where there to protect other trials that were ongoing, , and make sure they all got done for the appalling acts,

smacking someone with his priors, is always going to get himself arrested,

I actually agree with his Arrest...

But...

The other guy should also have been arrested too.

And I think that considering what happened with underage girls in Rotherham, the Police have not done any favors here.

[TheDemonLord]

poisoning the well and Character assassination

Interesting Tweets, considering they are from 2 different Twitter handles. One of which is confirmed to be his account that was banned, what does that say about the other account?

And would those images be from the same Hope not Hate organization that was exposed as conspiring with the BBC to smear Tommy? So definitely no Agenda there....

[pritch]

Tommy/Stephen might have the right ideas, ,

Nah, this is a guy who had kiddie fiddlers as mates in his political party/gang. They were OK though, they were white.
It's the Muslims he doesn't like, they are the wrong colour.

Don't look for deep meanings, there aren't any.

[scott411]

I actually agree with his Arrest...

But...

The other guy should also have been arrested too.

And I think that considering what happened with underage girls in Rotherham, the Police have not done any favors here.

i have not seen any articles stating if the other guy was or not , but I agree with you,

[husaberg]

Nah, this is a guy who had kiddie fiddlers as mates in his political party/gang. They were OK though, they were white.
It's the Muslims he doesn't like, they are the wrong colour.

Don't look for deep meanings, there aren't any.
Or look for the truth from AKA

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defence-league-leigh-mcmillan-jailed-paedophile-old-bailey-a8231231.html

[A “senior member” of the far-right English Defence League has been jailed for sexually abusing a schoolgirl dozens of times.
Leigh McMillan, 46, groomed his 10-year-old victim with cigarettes and drugs before subjecting her to a “spiral of sexual abuse” during the mid-1990s, jurors at the Old Bailey heard.
McMillan attacked the girl as she lay on her mother's bed and warned: “You mustn't tell your mum - she'd be really upset.”
He assaulted the youngster around 100 times over a five-year period, the court was told.

Richard Price, former EDL leader: four counts of making indecent images of children.
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2018/10/09/far-right-round-6/

former English Defence League (EDL) member Peter Gillett has been sentenced to no less than 18 years for a whole catalogue of sex crimes. His victims included two young girls and a boy.


Then there was Paul Whiteside, a senior member of the EDL who took pictures of a 15-year-old girl in the bath and helped her run away with him before being arrested by police. He was given a suspended sentence and 10-year sexual harm prevention order last year


Michael McQueenie, EDL Blackburn: pleaded guilty of two counts of rape of a 14-year-old girl and sexual assault.

Jack Renshaw – EDL, BNP, National Action: four counts of inciting a child to engage in sexual activity.
Bradley Daniel Alford, EDL Supporter: 6 yrs, indecent photos, inciting a child to engage in sexual intercourse.
Luke Atkinson, UKIP & Yorkshire EDL Supporter: jailed 4 yrs, 8 mths, grooming young teenagers
Alan Boulter, EDL Supporter and all round racist: 20 mths, attempted grooming.
John Broomfield, EDL and British Freedom supporter: ‘making indecent images of children’ and inept mosque attack.
Dean Chambers, EDL & BNP supporter: 5 yrs, sexual assault.
Bruce Cordwell, EDL: 3 yrs, 7 mths, grooming.
Alan Thomas Ellis, Deeside EDL: convicted of sending texts of a sexual nature to a 14 year old girl.
Dale Hewitt, EDL supporter: 10 years for multiple sex offences against teenage girls.
Mark Hogg, EDL: 9 months for sexual assault on a 14 year old.
Elliot Jones, EDL supporter and part of the self-styled ‘pedophile squad’ jailed for, err, pedophilia.
Michael Kinnear, BNP and EDL supporter: jailed for sexually abusing a 7 year old.
Brett Moses EDL Hull: 12-month prison sentence for sexual grooming.
Mark ‘Archie’ Sleman (above), EDL: kidnap & attempted rape of 10 yr old.
Trevor Vinson, EDL, Britain First & Jayda Fransen supporter: 21 years for repeated sexual abuse and making obscene images of 3 year old girl.
Matthew Woodward, Deeside EDL: charged with child pornography and soliciting a 13 year old for photographs.

Nearly 90 per cent of those convicted and on the sex offenders register are white men.
the overall population of England and Wales 86% of people were white in 2011 (at the last census), 8% of the population was of Asian ethnicity, and 3% was black.


https://www.indy100.com/article/tommy-robinson-denied-and-then-admitted-to-this-hilarious-tweet-about-pegida-and-the-edl--WkNkU96gal

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/14/new-tommy-robinson-twitter-account-suspended-hours-appeared-9539861/


The Quilliam report observes that “Asian child sexual exploitation (CSE) offenders represent 0.01% of the UK’s Asian population”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/11/84-per-cent-of-grooming-gangs-are-asians-we-dont-know-if-that-figure-is-right

When asked the victims of all the rapes and sexual assaults carried out in the UK if they had a preference to which nationality or religion or colour raped them
All the victims suggested they would just rather not be raped or sexually assaulted in the first place.


Another study by CEOP from 2013 looked at data collected from 31 police forces. It found that of around 300 offenders whose ethnicity was provided and who were part of groups targeting children based on their vulnerability (rather than because they had a specific sexual interest in children), 75% had been categorised as Asian and 17% as white, 5% were listed as black and 3% as Arab. Of the groups who did target children based on a sexual interest in them (fewer than 20 people studied) all were white.

[TheDemonLord]

Appeal to other problems fallacy

However, let's take every single instance at face value - I count approximately 20 Children abused. Now, that is a travesty and should be absolutely condemned.

The problem with the comparison you are attempting to make is mult-faceted.

1: You can't point to the Ideology of the EDL that justifies these crimes, whereas the inverse is true.
2: For an organisation that peaked to around 180,000 members and a rate of Pedophilia in the general population of under 5%, to only be able to point to 21 instances would put the total number of convicted EDL members at way under the 'average'
3: All of these are single individuals acting on their own, not an entire organized gang carrying out systematic rape with the authorities turning a blind eye
4: 20 Victims for the entirety of the EDL vs (using the Guardian's number) 1,510 from just ONE grooming gang.

The attempt to conflate the 2 as being comparable is dishonest as fuck. But then in regards to this issue, I'd expect nothing less...

[onearmedbandit]

Now I'm quite happy to admit I know little personally of the matters at hand, I too like everyone else here have heard the headlines and read the stories. I've heard Tommy called all sorts of names. But I didn't care or have an opinion on the man. A friend (who is not racist in any form) who had spent 8yrs in the UK was talking about issues he had seen and suggested I watched this.

Now disclaimer time, I'm not stating one way or the other who is right or wrong. But I found this interesting to hear the stories first hand (yes with whatever slant he wants us to hear) behind the headlines.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_YQ94jFg_4A" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=xl9XI_LvkHg&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzHke83iWM

[Katman]

What the fuck has Rowan Atkinson got to do with Tommy Robinson?

[husaberg]

Rowan Atkinson actually went to Oxford rather than just "went to oxford"
Rowan, even though he is s performer, doesn't use a "stage name" or multiple alias's.
Rowan also doesn't have a long list of criminal convictions.
He also is far more entertaining and better spoken.
if you knew anything about the subject you would also know that Rowan has made a series of submissions dating back at least 15 years regarding racial and religious hate speech and Freedom of expression.



His make sense and are not this thinly disguised racial abuse and grandstanding like AKA's


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlnV55zzsF0

https://web.archive.org/web/20110610223606/http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11670.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9616750/Rowan-Atkinson-we-must-be-allowed-to-insult-each-other.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1478381/Atkinson-defends-right-to-offend.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4073997.stm

[Katman]

Rowan Atkinson actually went to Oxford rather than just "went to oxford"
Rowan, even though he is s performer, doesn't use a "stage name" or multiple alias's.
Rowan also doesn't have a long list of criminal convictions.
He also is far more entertaining and better spoken.
if you knew anything about the subject you would also know that Rowan has made a series of submissions dating back at least 15 years regarding racial and religious hate speech and Freedom of expression.
His make sense and are not this thinly disguised racial abuse and grandstanding like AKA's

So in other words, he has nothing to do with Tommy Robinson.

[husaberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUCy75CA3Aw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLxlCyCDsHo

[pritch]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/26/syrian-teenager-suing-tommy-robinson-for-libel-seeks-up-to-190000-damages

[husaberg]

what a fine individual
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/tommy-robinson-journalist-lizzie-dearden-independent-b951614.html

Shock horror a multitime convicted fraudster up to his old tricks.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-cocaine-donations-prison-b1787467.html

[pritch]

what a fine individual
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/tommy-robinson-journalist-lizzie-dearden-independent-b951614.html



He has form for that but usually he turns up mob handed. Previously the police were not much interested in his nocturnal terrorism, but I guess this woman being from a major news organisation got them off their arses.

[pritch]

And again... Now he's a convicted stalker. He's all class.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/tommy-robinson-gets-five-year-stalking-ban-after-harassing-journalist



I knew about this but missed the outcome.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/tommy-robinson-gets-five-year-stalking-ban-after-harassing-journalist

[husaberg]

And again... Now he's a convicted stalker. He's all class.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/tommy-robinson-gets-five-year-stalking-ban-after-harassing-journalist



I knew about this but missed the outcome.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/tommy-robinson-gets-five-year-stalking-ban-after-harassing-journalist

the hits keep coming

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/22/tommy-robinson-loses-libel-case-brought-by-syrian-schoolboy


AKA's latest conviction adds to a long list

Assaults
kicked the officer in the head as he laid on the ground. received sentences of 12 months and 3 months, which were served concurrently.

In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.

Public order offense
In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour,

False passports

Contempt of court


Fraud

[pritch]

Robinson, having lost his court case as above, pleaded bankruptcy to avoid paying the one hundred thousand quid awarded against him. He is believed to have raised millions from supporters but claims to be broke.

He recently arrived in Mexico with his three kids in tow en route to tbe tourist destination Cancun. The Mexican authorities pulled him aside, arrested him, and are deporting him as a risk to national security.

He also failed to appear for a recent high court hearing. With any luck the judge will be really pissed off by all of Robinson’s bullshit.

Oh, and these days he describes himself as a journalist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPV7LA9-D3I

[husaberg]

Robinson, having lost his court case as above, pleaded bankruptcy to avoid paying the one hundred thousand quid awarded against him. He is believed to have raised millions from supporters but claims to be broke.

He recently arrived in Mexico with his three kids in tow en route to tbe tourist destination Cancun. The Mexican authorities pulled him aside, arrested him, and are deporting him as a risk to national security.

He also failed to appear for a recent high court hearing. With any luck the judge will be really pissed off by all of Robinson’s bullshit.

Oh, and these days he describes himself as a journalist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPV7LA9-D3I

Just a journalist bahaaaaaaa
Broke but on a family holiday halfway across the world. gee a guy with multiple serious assaults and fraud including passport fraud denied entry to a country who would have guessed.
Convictions include

Assaultskicked a police officer in the head as he laid on the ground. received sentences of 12 months and 3 months, which were served concurrently.
Assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.
Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour,

False passports In October 2012, Robinson was arrested and held on the charge of having entered the United States illegally. Robinson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court to using someone else's passport to travel to the United States in September 2012, and was sentenced in January 2013 to 10 months' imprisonment.Judge Alistair McCreath told him: "What you did went absolutely to the heart of the immigration controls that the United States are entitled to have. It's not in any sense trivial
Public order offenses In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010

Contempt of courtOn 5 July 2019, Robinson was again found guilty of contempt of court at the retrial on three different grounds, including breaching the reporting restriction

Mortgage fraud Robinson's fraud amounted to £160,000 over a period of six months. Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator.

Stalking On 13 October 2021, Robinson was convicted at Westminster Magistrates' Court of stalking the couple, and was given a five-year ban from contacting them or referring to them

yet he says I feel like I'm two days away from being sentenced to death in the U.K. for journalism. Today, I am calling on the help of Donald Trump, his administration and the Republican Party to grant me and my family political asylum in the United States of America.


Libel multiple
Before incurring an estimated £1.6 million in costs following the libel trial, Robinson filed for bankruptcy in March 2021, using the name Stephen Christopher Lennon.[ The official receiver was searching for concealed assets, including any which had been put into other people's names. Former employees have raised questions as to what happened to money raised to support him.
He denies misusing funds.In January 2022, people owed money by Robinson (including the libeled schoolboy, the boy's lawyers, HMRC, a former business partner and the Borough of Barrow-in-Furness) appointed an independent insolvency expert in an attempt to recover their money before the deadline for claims in March 2022

[pritch]

No tears for Tommy er make that Steven.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/28/tommy-robinson-admits-contempt-of-court-over-false-claims-about-refugee

[husaberg]

No tears for Tommy er make that Steven.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/28/tommy-robinson-admits-contempt-of-court-over-false-claims-about-refugee

I would chuckle if it wasn't for him trying to get money and fame by knowingly spreading completely false accusations.

[husaberg]

Tommy Robinson has been ordered to pay £50,000 in costs after he was jailed for contempt of court, with the final amount still to be decided.


The political activist, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, was sentenced to 18 months in prison in October after the Solicitor General took legal action against him for breaching a High Court injunction made in 2021.


Robinson admitted 10 breaches of the order, which barred him from repeating libellous allegations against a Syrian refugee.


In a court order issued on Tuesday, Mr Justice Johnson said that the Solicitor General had claimed a total of £80,350.52 in legal costs, which “does not appear to be disproportionate having regard to the nature of the issues in the case and the conduct of the defendant”.


He ruled that Robinson should pay £50,000 by 4pm on January 7 next year, with the remainder of the sum to be paid to be decided at a later date.

[Laava]

Yep, pretty hard to feel any sympathy for him…

[Katman]

Post deleted.

[Katman]

So we're now at the stage where they're not even trying to cover up the fact that there was a cover-up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/04/grooming-gangs-scandal-cover-up-oldham-telford-rotherham/

[pritch]

So we're now at the stage where they're not even trying to cover up the fact that there was a cover-up.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/04/grooming-gangs-scandal-cover-up-oldham-telford-rotherham/

There were many coverups. That's an ugly read. The fact that one of the guilty parties who is the subject of a deportation order is still in Britain suggests that the lessons have not all been learned.

[Swoop]

It's good to see more focus being placed on the issue of "grooming gangs" but they fail to refer to what is happening - it should be called "child raping gangs", as that is what it really is.
"Tommy Robinson" has been reporting on this horrendous activity for quite some time, yet has been repeatedly closed down because of the topic and (presumably) some high-level people who know about what is going on & fail to execute their duties and prosecute using the judicial process.

Disgusting, either way.

[husaberg]

Whilst any such activity by anyone utterly reprehensible. It should also be mentioned that aka Robinson's own mate and co founder of EDL was protected by Robinson having carried out similar activities.
not to mention multiple members of his organiasations
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/


Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) has announced plans to hold a demonstration in Telford at the end of January. As well as a march, he intends to screen his self-made documentary ‘The Rape of Britain”, about the issue of on-street grooming allegedly perpetrated by Muslim men of South Asian heritage in the town.

After several years of legal woes, incarcerations, extended holidays, injunctions and bankruptcy, he is attempting to exploit the pain of survivors of child sexual exploitation (CSE) to relaunch his political career.



However, Lennon has a long history of failing to condemn the abuse of children by his own friends and supporters. He is no ally in opposing child sexual exploitation.

There is a very long history of minority communities being framed as a sexual threat by the far right. Whether it is the centuries old blood libel or the characterisation of Jews as paedophiles before the Second World War, attacking African-Caribbean immigrants as rapists and pimps in the post-war period, and now painting Muslims as groomers, the far right have always sought to racialise sexual violence and child sexual exploitation.

Since founding the EDL in 2009, the issue of sexual violence at the hands of Muslim men – described as ‘Rape Jihad’ – has been a mainstay for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. However, he himself has an appalling record of confronting paedophilia and abuse within his own team and amongst his supporters. Lennon has consistently ignored or even defended occurrences of these crimes in his own ranks, proving that he is more concerned with attacking Muslims than actually combatting CSE or challenging sexual violence.

Notoriously, in June 2010 Lennon’s close friend and ally Richard Price was convicted of making four indecent images of children, and possessing cocaine and crack cocaine.[i] The vile images were found on his computer by police after he was arrested for disturbances at an EDL demonstration.

Far from condemning Price’s crimes, the EDL launched a campaign for his release. Lennon himself wholeheartedly supported Price, claiming he had been “stitched up” and that “Price has no idea how they were on his computer.


On 4 January 2011, six months after the conviction, Lennon released a statement attempting to distance himself and the EDL from Price, falsely claiming that at “no time has pricey ever been a leader of the EDL.” This was a lie, as on 4 June 2010 Lennon himself wrote that “The EDL have only this “Leadership” just for the record ….. Myself […] and Richard Price, we are the earliest founding members.” Lennon first defended a paedophile, and then lied about his association with him to protect his own and the EDL’s reputation.

Paedophiles in the English Defence League
For all its talk of Muslim paedophiles, the EDL was a hotbed of sex offenders. Since its formation, there have been at least 20 members and supporters convicted of child sexual exploitation offences. At least 10 of these were active in the EDL while Lennon was still leading it, and we are yet to find a single condemnation from Lennon.


Each of the following cases are perpetrators who were active in the EDL while Lennon was still leader:

Perhaps the most shocking case is that of Robert Ewing, who murdered the schoolgirl Paige Chivers after developing an “inappropriate sexual interest” in her.[iii] He was later prosecuted for abusing two other children in the 1990s.[iv] It later emerged that in 2013, Ewing wrote on Facebook, “Iv taken an interest in the EDL and iv attended a couple of demo’s.”[v]


Leigh Mcmillan, a senior EDL figure during Lennon’s time as leader who was active in the Lee Rigby campaign, was sentenced to 17 years after abusing a 10 year-old schoolgirl 100 times in the mid-1990s.[vi]

In 2010, the EDL supporter Brett Moses was given a 12-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, after he plead guilty to sexual grooming.[vii]


In 2011 John Broomfield, an active EDL supporter, admitted 20 counts of making indecent images of children. After his arrest alongside six others for conspiracy to cause an explosion – charges that were later dropped – the police found 236 indecent images depicting children and babies on his computers.[viii]


Also in 2011, Michael Coates was charged with a series of sex offences, including two attempted rapes. At the time he was active in the EDL splinter group the North West Infidels (NWI). Their leader, John Shaw, confirmed he had been active in the EDL previously, writing: “He like the rest of us was edl first then NWI.”[ix]


In 2011, a gang of racists attacked Redbridge Islamic Centre. During the attack they hurled racist abuse at those inside, including repeatedly shouting “EDL”. Later it emerged that Elliot Jones, one of the attackers on that day, was convicted of trying to incite a child into sexual activity.[x]


Mark “Archie” Sleman was an EDL supporter active in London and Exeter and was known for running the Church of the Templars, which was mainly made up of EDL members. It transpired that he had been imprisoned for nine years in 1994 for the kidnap and rape of a ten-year-old girl.[xi]


In 2012 the well-known EDL member and regular demonstration attender Matthew Woodward was charged with possession of images of children as young as ten years old, and a video recording of another child.[xii]


Michael Kinnear was active in the EDL and is known to have attended a demonstration in July 2013 at which Lennon spoke.[xiii] In 2015 he was jailed after police found images on his mobile of a primary school aged girl “performing a type of striptease” and in state of undress.[xiv

Since Lennon left the EDL in 2013, the group continued to attract support from child abusers and sex offenders, such as Bradley Daniel Alford,[xv] Alan Boulter,[xvi] Pete Gillett,[xvii] Luke Atkinson,[xviii] Dean Chambers,[xix] Bruce Cordwell,[xx] and Paul Whiteside amongst numerous others. Again, we can find no condemnations of these offenders from Lennon.


More recently, Lennon once again found himself allied with a sex offender. In June 2017, he shared a stage with William Charlton at a rally in Sunderland at an event where the sexual abuse of children was the key theme of the speeches. Lennon praised Charlton, saying ““I wouldn’t have heard of this campaign if it wasn’t for Billy,” adding “That battle has to be fought through every avenue.”[xxi] It later transpired that Charlton was found guilty of distributing an indecent photograph of a child.[xxii]





Also AKA robinson accused plenty of people wrongly which is why he served multiple jail sentences.
Robinson is still a self serving scumbag of the highest order.

[pete376403]

Why is Elon Musk calling to Robinsons release?


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1542634826414599

[husaberg]

Why is Elon Musk calling to Robinsons release?


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1542634826414599

The fact he's far right would be enough.....



https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/blog/why-tommy-robinson-is-in-prison/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/3/who-is-tommy-robinson-and-why-is-elon-musk-throwing-his-weight-behind-him
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/society/2025/01/tommy-robinson-elon-musk-grooming-scandal




He also clearly doesn't mind someone with an extensive criminal past....:msn-wink:

[pritch]

It's good to see more focus being placed on the issue of "grooming gangs" but they fail to refer to what is happening - it should be called "child raping gangs", as that is what it really is.
"Tommy Robinson" has been reporting on this horrendous activity for quite some time, yet has been repeatedly closed down because of the topic and (presumably) some high-level people who know about what is going on & fail to execute their duties and prosecute using the judicial process.

Disgusting, either way.

You have Robinson's part in all this confused. He was interfering with the court cases to the extent that a mistrial would have had to be be declared. That was years ago though.

The reason he is in jail now is that a Syrian refugee kid was beaten up by some white kids at school. Robinson said he was beaten up because he had sexually assaulted white girls although there was no evidence of this. The court ordered him to stop making these statements but he continued and subsequently even published a movie. The judge said Robinson thinks the law doesn't apply to him and he has been given time in the big house to contemplate the error of his ways. He's where he belongs.

[Katman]

You have Robinson's part in all this confused.

I do find myself wondering though, without Tommy Robinson's input, would this whole issue have come into such public scrutiny?

[pritch]

I do find myself wondering though, without Tommy Robinson's input, would this whole issue have come into such public scrutiny?

Of course. Robinson was interfering with the court cases. The crimes were committed years prior. That the offending went on far far too long is not in dispute.

The inquiry into the offical response, or the almost total lack thereof. took seven years and it was completed in 2022. It's not like this is exactly current.
The Conservatives are attacking a Labour MP when in fact they were in power themselves throughout that time.

Basically it has blown up because Musk, from a position of total ignorance, has decided Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner. The name Tommy Robinson belonged to a famous (infamous?) football hooligan. This is actually a good indicator of what Yaxley-Lennon would like to be doing with his time if he wasn't abusing Muslims.

[Katman]

Basically it has blown up because Musk, from a position of total ignorance, has decided Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner.

This has nothing to do with Elon Musk.

The issue that Tommy Robinson has brought to the public's attention is totally unrelated to anything that Musk has decided.

[Katman]

An interesting video that explains the position that Tommy Robinson is fighting from.

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[pritch]

This has nothing to do with Elon Musk.

The issue that Tommy Robinson has brought to the public's attention is totally unrelated to anything that Musk has decided.

The current drama has everything to do with Elon Musk. Musk recently suggested to Nigel Farage that he include Robinson in the Reform Party. Farage said no, presumably he considers Robinson too toxic. Now Musk is attacking Farage and wants him replaced as head of Reform.

Musk wants to bring down the British government and replace it with the Reform party. Accordingly he has given Reform a large sum of money. It was reported yesterday in British right wing media sources that Musk is being advised by Dominic Cummings. Cummings was Boris Johnson's puppet master until a struggle developed between Cummings and Johnson's then new wife for control. That could only end one way and eventually Cummings got the arse.

I remember reading about the doings at Rotherham years ago but there were other northern cities involved. Listening to a podcast last night it appears that it wasn't just in the north, it reached as far south as Oxford. There were potentially hundreds of men involved in the offending and only a relative few were prosecuted. Although prosecutions are still proceeding. The ones previously sentenced to prison are probably out now and the only one we know of that was sentenced to be deported is still living in Britain.

There were massive failings by the people responsible for the care of the kids: social workers, the police, local councillors, the prosecution service and national politicians. Nobody wanted to appear racist and it seems nobody had their career damaged by their inaction.

The comment in your clip that any white working class person who complained about immigration would be branded racist is true, even if sometimes it was accurate.

Robinson didn't really bring anything to the attention of the public. It was already public and he just jumped on the gravy train. He apparently raised a lot of cash from it.

[TheDemonLord]

There were many coverups. That's an ugly read. The fact that one of the guilty parties who is the subject of a deportation order is still in Britain suggests that the lessons have not all been learned.

I want to quote this to make a point.

Let us put politics to one side for a moment.

This summation, right here, is the reason for the all the anger in the UK.

Grievous crimes were allowed to be committed, covered up, for the sake of community tensions and the perpetrators were not expelled from the country.

In order for all of that to happen there has to be tacit complicity by certain groups of people within the establishment.

It is one thing for the wheels of justice to turn slowly but eventually reaching the point where deportation is the verdict - The British could understand that.

It is completely another thing for certain special interest groups (like Sir Keir Starmer...) to actively oppose the verdict from being carrried out.

[TheDemonLord]

Of course. Robinson was interfering with the court cases. The crimes were committed years prior. That the offending went on far far too long is not in dispute.

The inquiry into the offical response, or the almost total lack thereof. took seven years and it was completed in 2022. It's not like this is exactly current.
The Conservatives are attacking a Labour MP when in fact they were in power themselves throughout that time.

Basically it has blown up because Musk, from a position of total ignorance, has decided Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner. The name Tommy Robinson belonged to a famous (infamous?) football hooligan. This is actually a good indicator of what Yaxley-Lennon would like to be doing with his time if he wasn't abusing Muslims.

Of course?

The first public reports of this happening go back as far as 2004.

The EDL was formed in what, 2008

Then there was the 2011 expose.

That is 7 years - where nothing happened. There have been a few sporadic arrests, but nothing national has happened since the 80s.

Put it this way - if in 2001, when the first documented instance where this problem was raised to the Police and councils - if it was taken seriously, the rings investigated and the perpetrators deported - do you think the likes of Tommy Robinson would have arisen, Would the EDL even exist?

If the British Establishment had done their job, none of this would have happened. Whereas they were too scared of being called Racist - and allowed this to continue.

So, no - the notion that if Tommy had not been beating the drum, this would have come to public prominence is farcical. Multiple people have tried, multiple times to raise it to the public consciousness and multiple times it has been suppressed and or buried for 'fear of raising community tensions'

[pritch]

Last night I came across this ciip. For those of you with short attention spans it's the first five minutes that are important. Piers Morgan I don't like, although once when he dissed an Australian fast bowler the bowler said Morgan wouldn't want to face him in the nets. Morgan did face him for an over in the nets and that took balls other than cricket balls. I dislike Jordan Peterson. He is making a career of inserting himself in the news.

The part where Morgan quotes the judge as to why Robinson is in jail is the important part. Clue: it has nothing to do with bringing anything to anybody's attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYOxaZCJHqU

[TheDemonLord]

Last night I came across this ciip. For those of you with short attention spans it's the first five minutes that are important. Piers Morgan I don't like, although once when he dissed an Australian fast bowler the bowler said Morgan wouldn't want to face him in the nets. Morgan did face him for an over in the nets and that took balls other than cricket balls. I dislike Jordan Peterson. He is making a career of inserting himself in the news.

The part where Morgan quotes the judge as to why Robinson is in jail is the important part. Clue: it has nothing to do with bringing anything to anybody's attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYOxaZCJHqU

Curious isnt it that Novara Media conveiniantly omit JBP response to Piers. I mean, it is Piers style to barrage someone with a list of so-called Facts (one of the reasons I am not a huge fan of Piers myself either) - you will note that JBP sits there respectfully, does not interrupt and allows Piers to state his case.

Now, one might theorize that the reason they clipped it before JBP replies is because in the reply are a number of counter-points that add context and a different view point to the issue - and Novara knows their audience cant have that...

And for reference:


Novara has a left-wing editorial position. Bastani, one of the founders of the organisation, has frequently advocated the political idea of "fully automated luxury communism", "a political vision which advocates a transition to post-work society where abundance is held in common",[9] or as Bastani puts it, "the full automation of everything and common ownership of that which is automated".[30] Other contributors, notably James Butler, critiqued this idea on air, arguing that the word 'luxury' could lead to misunderstandings. Ash Sarkar has defined communism as being "about the desire to see the coercive structures of state dismantled, while also having fun".[31]

[pritch]

And we know why. Well, most of us...

[TheDemonLord]

And we know why. Well, most of us...

Because it looks like the British establishment did its job for once?