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F5 Dave
27th February 2021, 19:53
So I've been making a locked section within our pantry to stop our daughter either eating contraband or making 'magic mixtures' from expensive ingredients. Often at 2:30am .

Well, I'm no carpenter. It all gets ugly when the shelves have a bit of sag and maybe aren't dead straight. Then I'm trying to put a cupboard section between 2 shelves. And then line up hinges and doors. Geez nothing lines up square. I'm accepting that the doors won't line up anywhere near straight. At least it will be hidden when outer doors are closed.

Seems I'm a bit crap at this. My wife pointed out that I should have prayed to the patron Saint of carpentry. Which I assume is Jesus. After all he was a carpenter until he was 31 when he decided to start telling everyone he was the son of God.

Oh glorious Jesus. Fix my cupboard doors you lying little cunt.

ellipsis
27th February 2021, 21:24
...hahahahahahaah...:second:

Laava
27th February 2021, 21:59
Might be cheaper to just spring for some sleeping pills for the daughter?

R650R
27th February 2021, 23:07
Prob not you, common for walls to be warped of not perfect straight etc, timbers always moving it’s whole life, moistures, heat, cool rinse repeat....

Been watching snippets of Scott Brown Carpentry on YouTube he does great vids covering all those various problems. Although he’s usually got luxury of larger scale renovations repacking a bare wall to perfection.
Old American dude the essential craftsman well worth watching too

We had a kitchen wall that looked fine until the new straight kitchen bench was upagainst it!

mashman
28th February 2021, 08:55
Poor carp...

george formby
28th February 2021, 09:03
Oh, I feels. Our cottage was started in the 1860's, not a flat surface or straight line in it.

My first ever shelf, a floater, was a work of art until I tried to fit it. The bloody wall is curved like a bow!!!

Why not make a lockable box which will sit between the shelves? Dun't have to line anything up, just bolt it in.

Blackbird
28th February 2021, 09:23
Good for you! Our eldest son recently wanted me to build a decent-sized garden gate for his house as he has even less carpentry tools than me. Haven't done a lot of carpentry so watched lots of videos on YouTube and found some great ones by Mitre 10. I'm no carpenter but it turned out ok by adapting a few techniques and now I've got some extra transferrable skills. Just hoping my wife doesn't build up a bloody big task list now :laugh:

F5 Dave
28th February 2021, 09:24
Ok laugh away. After 2hrs of adjusting edges I just wanted to get the thing operational. And now it is. Eggs, spray oil, (dont ask, makes a mess on windows), baking, and sweet things stored away. Actually a fair bit of space, but its already pretty crowded.


I'll remake the rh door cut on an angle to match at a later date, but today's job if fixing the oil leak on the Triumph (oh the ironing).

Lining up the hinges to be concealed yet swing the door in the right place was doing my head in. So screw it, I did it the ugly way, especially when I realised it was stronger going through the melanin coating.

I can remove the whole thing to std in 3min with electric driver. This is just a step in the arms race.

Have fun over analyzing the random contents still visible. And no. I haven't eaten baked beans, instant noodles or spaghetti from a can in my life.

Laava
28th February 2021, 09:51
Get a pot of that coffee brewing, I'm coming around for a feed of Tom Yum!

Viking01
28th February 2021, 10:06
Ok laugh away. After 2hrs of adjusting edges I just wanted to get the thing operational. And now it is. Eggs, spray oil, (dont ask, makes a mess on windows), baking, and sweet things stored away. Actually a fair bit of space, but its already pretty crowded.


I'll remake the rh door cut on an angle to match at a later date, but today's job if fixing the oil leak on the Triumph (oh the ironing).

Lining up the hinges to be concealed yet swing the door in the right place was doing my head in. So screw it, I did it the ugly way, especially when I realised it was stronger going through the melanin coating.

I can remove the whole thing to std in 3min with electric driver. This is just a step in the arms race.

Have fun over analyzing the random contents still visible. And no. I haven't eaten baked beans, instant noodles or spaghetti from a can in my life.

This looks like a challenge. Well, it would be, to any of my two lads.

So, what are you going to do when the daughter gets out the Philips head screw driver and takes out the screws of the right hand hinges (and the doors in the process) ? Just asking. :msn-wink:

george formby
28th February 2021, 10:40
Just hoping my wife doesn't build up a bloody big task list now :laugh:


Ah, the slippery slope of "yes dear".

I mentioned that I would try and make some shelves from timber we had inherited a few years ago. The moment some spare time appeared it became a priority. After much fear of fucking up and fear of a bloody big router I did make the shelves.

Whatever you do, make sure it's a poor job!

348587

Otherwise the size of the list and expectations increase dramatically.....348588

Blackbird
28th February 2021, 10:56
Ah, the slippery slope of "yes dear".

I mentioned that I would try and make some shelves from timber we had inherited a few years ago. The moment some spare time appeared it became a priority. After much fear of fucking up and fear of a bloody big router I did make the shelves.

Whatever you do, make sure it's a poor job!


Otherwise the size of the list and expectations increase dramatically.....]

Hey, that's a seriously nice job - but just the thing to keep your skills in demand from your infinitely better half forever :clap:. MY CEO currently wants a bookshelf expressly for her family history research but I'm off the hook on that one as she wants one to match the rustic macrocarpa one we had made a few years ago for general books. I'm quite happy to cough up and have another one made rather than spending time and screwing up the job myself. A gate is one thing, building shelves to your high standard is another thing entirely :cool:

TheDemonLord
28th February 2021, 11:24
So, to add to this - I'm in the process of renovating the Master Bedroom - one section of wall had a hairline crack that no amount of sanding and filling in with Gibstop putty would fix it.

Eventually I decided the cut out a V section, in order to get a greater surface area for the putty to adhere to and to cover the crack...

Turns out that it's actually a thin strip of GIB (about 20 mm wide) that runs down that section of the wall, to account for the fact that the 2 larger sheets of GIB don't line up. To make matters worse, this thin strip of GIB isn't over a Stud.


I widened the gap a bit to about 30mm - so that some of the strip would be over the Stud, which in theory should give it enough structural strength - I don't particularly feel like re-GIBbing an entire room - that's a bit outside my current Time and Skill limitations.

After much swearing and cutting/trimming/breaking/cutting/trimming/breaking (repeat several times) a replacement GIB strip - I got it in, Taped it, puttied it, sanded it down - looking good, painted it - Life was good, wall looked nice...









Then after one of the recent Jolts - guess where there is a hairline crack again....

george formby
28th February 2021, 11:53
Hey, that's a seriously nice job - but just the thing to keep your skills in demand from your infinitely better half forever :clap:. MY CEO currently wants a bookshelf expressly for her family history research but I'm off the hook on that one as she wants one to match the rustic macrocarpa one we had made a few years ago for general books. I'm quite happy to cough up and have another one made rather than spending time and screwing up the job myself. A gate is one thing, building shelves to your high standard is another thing entirely :cool:

Hmmmmm, food for thought. I still have some big slabs of mac left and a corner shelf has been requested. Requested? It was said nicely but I know a command when I hear one...

Nice, natural, curvy wood. Lovely.

As per my second pic, Kim Jong Un has me knocking down a chimney and the wall it sits in so we can have a decent living room. The gib is glued and screwed to the rotting timbers behind it, ah, that's what a big pry bar is for. Structural gib, too. Solid stuff.

Might help with shakes..

jellywrestler
28th February 2021, 11:58
Ok laugh away. After 2hrs of adjusting edges I just wanted to get the thing operational. And now it is. Eggs, spray oil, (dont ask, makes a mess on windows), baking, and sweet things stored away. Actually a fair bit of space, but its already pretty crowded.


I'll remake the rh door cut on an angle to match at a later date, but today's job if fixing the oil leak on the Triumph (oh the ironing).

Lining up the hinges to be concealed yet swing the door in the right place was doing my head in. So screw it, I did it the ugly way, especially when I realised it was stronger going through the melanin coating.

I can remove the whole thing to std in 3min with electric driver. This is just a step in the arms race.

Have fun over analyzing the random contents still visible. And no. I haven't eaten baked beans, instant noodles or spaghetti from a can in my life.

and you have the gall to criticise some peoples bike builds.....

pritch
28th February 2021, 12:01
Not entirely relevant but could help somebody with their renovation project? Saw this on Twitter yesterday entitled "Redneck fuckery". OK, I did multiple safety courses, and I'm sure Worksafe wouldn't approve, but...

TheDemonLord
28th February 2021, 12:29
Not entirely relevant but could help somebody with their renovation project? Saw this on Twitter yesterday entitled "Redneck fuckery". OK, I did multiple safety courses, and I'm sure Worksafe wouldn't approve, but...

I'm torn between the clearly ingenious use and the equally blatant hazard.

F5 Dave
28th February 2021, 12:30
and you have the gall to criticise some peoples bike builds.....
and clearly the point of this thread is to take the piss out of myself.

I've made complete fences and ensuites and shit like that which are still look good many years later. But what was to be just a quick throw together caught me on the wrong end of the skill spectrum. Plus I'm doing this with a couple of healing broken ribs so waving around skillsaws (wish I had a saw bench would have made things considerably square, heck I couldn't even find my square) and belt sanders quite tiresome.

F5 Dave
28th February 2021, 12:34
This looks like a challenge. Well, it would be, to any of my two lads.

So, what are you going to do when the daughter gets out the Philips head screw driver and takes out the screws of the right hand hinges (and the doors in the process) ? Just asking. :msn-wink:
Hope she tries. She'll learn a valuable lesson about the superiority of the Robinson square drive system.

Actually there's an interesting history on the topic if you Google it.


Tell you what. Pro Tip (hoho) having two battery drivers so you don't have to change from pilot drillbit to screw bit makes life considerably more pleasant.

Viking01
28th February 2021, 13:27
Hope she tries. She'll learn a valuable lesson about the superiority of the Robinson square drive system.

Actually there's an interesting history on the topic if you Google it.


Tell you what. Pro Tip (hoho) having two battery drivers so you don't have to change from pilot drillbit to screw bit makes life considerably more pleasant.

After zooming in on the image, I now see that all the screw heads do have square section recesses.

After thinking about it further, she'd probably just target the two screws holding the right hand part of the lock. Less screws to undo.

Hope it works as planned. If not, Loctite is your friend. :msn-wink:

george formby
28th February 2021, 13:38
Hope she tries. She'll learn a valuable lesson about the superiority of the Robinson square drive system.

Actually there's an interesting history on the topic if you Google it.


Tell you what. Pro Tip (hoho) having two battery drivers so you don't have to change from pilot drillbit to screw bit makes life considerably more pleasant.

That is a pro Pro tip.

I'm a tight arse with tartan blood so do a lot of restoration, up cycling, saving money, whatcha call it. I've yet to pull something to bits which has matching screws, 2 drills - 2 drive bits. Sometimes 3 drills.

I'm tidying up some cheap French doors today, 2 drills to unscrew the brassware. And I'm finding out why they were so cheap, one of the windows is perspex.. No putty in it either. Did my first putty job yeterday... :( Looks really easy on youtube. My attempt looks like something the dog leaves on the lawn.

pete376403
28th February 2021, 13:46
40 years of renovations and projects on this house have got me a collection of hand and power tools, which, if all purchased at the same time, probably would have paid a professional to do the renovations. And it might have been completed 39 years ago

HenryDorsetCase
28th February 2021, 14:15
Not entirely relevant but could help somebody with their renovation project? Saw this on Twitter yesterday entitled "Redneck fuckery". OK, I did multiple safety courses, and I'm sure Worksafe wouldn't approve, but...

all that needs is something in the front hoop of the wheelbarrow to stop it going back. It can't come forward cos the handles are long and splayed.

I bought a router this week and taught myself to use it over the weekend. Verdict: harder than it looks but perseverance is the key. I actually read the instructions (fail) and watched Youtube vids.

george formby
28th February 2021, 14:32
all that needs is something in the front hoop of the wheelbarrow to stop it going back. It can't come forward cos the handles are long and splayed.

I bought a router this week and taught myself to use it over the weekend. Verdict: harder than it looks but perseverance is the key. I actually read the instructions (fail) and watched Youtube vids.

Yup, lots of wee things pop up that you don't see on youtube.

My biggest lesson was just to insert the tip rather than plunge the whole bit straight in. Squeals and bucks if you just plunge it in which makes it difficult to keep hold of and the hole gets ragged.

george formby
28th February 2021, 14:43
40 years of renovations and projects on this house have got me a collection of hand and power tools, which, if all purchased at the same time, probably would have paid a professional to do the renovations. And it might have been completed 39 years ago

Sooo true.

A mate is having a tidy out and offered me some interesting gear. A chainsaw attachment for a Skill saw.... :cool:

An underwater, hydraulic, kangal concrete smasher. I guess for repairing concrete pools without draining them.

And a concrete cutter which sucks itself to a wall for making windows or doors which the architect forgot.

Oh, and a bag which freezes water pipes so they can be repaired with the water still on. Clever.

FJRider
28th February 2021, 17:43
My wife pointed out that I should have prayed to the patron Saint of carpentry. Which I assume is Jesus. After all he was a carpenter until he was 31 when he decided to start telling everyone he was the son of God.

Oh glorious Jesus. Fix my cupboard doors you lying little cunt.

Saint Joseph is the Patron saint of Carpentry ... and as such ... every Carpenter believes he's the son of god.

Joseph was a carpenter too. And trained Jesus as a carpenter.

HenryDorsetCase
28th February 2021, 18:37
Yup, lots of wee things pop up that you don't see on youtube.

My biggest lesson was just to insert the tip rather than plunge the whole bit straight in. Squeals and bucks if you just plunge it in which makes it difficult to keep hold of and the hole gets ragged.

indeed "just the tip" is good advice in all sorts of situations.

F5 Dave
28th February 2021, 18:51
Saint Joseph is the Patron saint of Carpentry ... and as such ... every Carpenter believes he's the son of god.

Joseph was a carpenter too.. .
I thought he was a Bullfrog? :blink: but I probably have that wrong.

F5 Dave
28th February 2021, 18:57
Great. Showed the wife now she's singing it. Too young to even know who sang it.
Come to it, I must be too. I'll have to Google it.

FJRider
28th February 2021, 18:59
I thought he was a Bullfrog? :blink: but I probably have that wrong.

Jeremia.


You were close ... ;)

F5 Dave
28th February 2021, 19:18
Meh Sunday school was never very interesting anyway.


3dog night it seems

ellipsis
28th February 2021, 20:25
...power tools are only as good as the eye, the concentration and the coordination of your skill and control of the machinery allows...much like a motorcycle really... some people should catch a bus and some people should hire a person...hand tools however are a different kettle of fish...we will let bonez elaborate on that concept...

F5 Dave
1st March 2021, 06:11
Ha, he, and mashy and TDL have been on ignore for some time now. Have the whole trifecta, but still dont care to read what they have to blither on about.

I didn't make a new door yesterday, but I did remove the various waterpump, sump outlet tube so I can source new o-rings this week. That was far more important.
Especially as this crude door will likely get stripped out in a year or so. Might be time for a new pantry by then anyway.

TheDemonLord
1st March 2021, 08:06
Ha, he, and mashy and TDL have been on ignore for some time now. Have the whole trifecta, but still dont care to read what they have to blither on about

And yet, you feel the need to boldly declare your piety before your peers.

It is curious, that on this site, people who use the Ignore function seemingly go out of their way to mention the people they are ignoring.


Personally if I'm going to ignore someone, I - y'know - ignore them, best bit is that I don't even need a Button to do it!