Toyota Levin V Bike

[gamgee]

Bike WINNNN!!! haha i toyed with him half way through first gear them BAM he had herpes, and i left him behind like he was standing still :eek5:

[Toast]

Geez dude...cheap thrills :P

Hehe. Been there done that though... :)

[HDTboy]

Personally I wouldn't be celebrating about beating a 1.6, but hey have fun

[sunhuntin]

guy i stayed with last week has a levin. "rode with" him to levin the town. i stayed ahead the whole way, but i know he coulda left me in the dust. good excuse to thrash pup though, lmfao.

[thehollowmen]

guy i stayed with last week has a levin. "rode with" him to levin the town. i stayed ahead the whole way, but i know he coulda left me in the dust. good excuse to thrash pup though, lmfao.

Pardon?
The GN250 has shitloads of bottom end and tears away from the lights, they have to do illegal speeds to catch up.
Which is really good if you've seen a disco car recently...
*cough* I've done that too many times in the last year :bleh:

[avgas]

Bike WINNNN!!! haha i toyed with him half way through first gear them BAM he had herpes, and i left him behind like he was standing still :eek5:
Guy was obviously an inexperienced driver....the 20v would have given you a big fright in the right hands.

[Toast]

VT250 should be similar performance to an CBR250R, right? Meaning 0-100 sub 7 seconds...

That should take most non-turbo Jappers under 2.5 with ease.

[gamgee]

yeah thats right

[nicmotors]

Bike WINNNN!!! haha i toyed with him half way through first gear them BAM he had herpes, and i left him behind like he was standing still :eek5:

Please don't tell me it was in a car park where you were leaving him behind... I so hope you were on the open road mate, gotta be sporting chance..

Besides we all know that cars cn only dream of the power to weight ratios that we run!:headbang:

[gamgee]

of course it was on the road, and yes he was going for it, i wouldn't have posted it up if it was just me dragging off some family out on a sunday drive

[avgas]

VT250 should be similar performance to an CBR250R, right? Meaning 0-100 sub 7 seconds...
That should take most non-turbo Jappers under 2.5 with ease.
CBR and VT are 2 different bikes, sub 7 sec is a dream for most 250 riders.
Also on a another note bigger motor doesnt mean better time in cars, Caterham has 0-100 in 3.7sec, using an 1800 non turbo.
Same said for Areil Atom.
From recall the 20v or the suchaged levin does 6.8sec, but dont quote me on that. Once you got to dragwars or something similar you realise quite quickly that cars arent as slow as they were in the 80's.
The only reason i prefer bikes is cos cars are too 'fake' these days, bikes have essentailly remain similar to what they have always been.

[HDTboy]

VT250 should be similar performance to an CBR250R, right? Meaning 0-100 sub 7 seconds...

That should take most non-turbo Jappers under 2.5 with ease.
try around low 5 seconds for the RR

[nicmotors]

Same sort of times for a kawasaki zr. the inline four cyl 250cc motors can still hussel. they right up there with the rr i reckon.. but what would i no?

[TonyB]

Jeeze, how quickly a post can turn into a bun fight eh? We've all got stories about trouncing some dude in a hot car. Like the time yeeeeaaars ago when my $1500 FZ400R absolutely trounced a guy in his then new and VERY expensive Audi quattro turbo from the lights onto open road- very satisfying.

Telling stories both tall and true about our exploits is a part of the biker culture. Instead of picking Gamgees tale to bits, maybe we should be adding our own?

[avgas]

Yeh sorry Gamgee, my bad...Just the car vs bike thing never dies.
Bikes are better, but in my experience not always faster.....but then again i have been fortunate enough to quite a few fast drivers out there.

[VasalineWarrior]

Tried both and still reckon bikes are more fun. How many cars do you know that can wheelie?

[Motu]

I passed a farmers ute today,showed him a thing or two! But I don't know if I'd be game enough to take on a Toyota Corolla,even if it was only a Levin....


I like to get sideways,cars and bikes - but nothing is better for getting totaly out of shape in than a car,over the edge and back again,the best thrill.

[HDTboy]

True that Motu, it also hurts less to go over the edge of the envelope in a car

[onearmedbandit]

I luurve wheelies, my front wheel has 'gravity'' issues, the only option available I've found is to ride it out, eventually it comes back down.

[inlinefour]

What ever turns you on... :mellow:

[dveus]

The result of a Levin vs House, the toyota lost that one too.
Is a picture of a mates car after its little incident.

[gamgee]

shit how did he manage that one?

[dveus]

Never really got an exact story from him, but I think it was falling asleep at the wheel. Was lucky that it happened in the early hours of the morning so no one else got caught up in it.

[Magua]

250cc bike vs small capacity car, w00t.
I've got a few stories of Fzr vs '88 prelude and fzr vs the ALMIGHTY, THE ONE AND ONLY.........fiat uno.

[WINJA]

Jeeze, how quickly a post can turn into a bun fight eh? We've all got stories about trouncing some dude in a hot car. Like the time yeeeeaaars ago when my $1500 FZ400R absolutely trounced a guy in his then new and VERY expensive Audi quattro turbo from the lights onto open road- very satisfying.

Telling stories both tall and true about our exploits is a part of the biker culture. Instead of picking Gamgees tale to bits, maybe we should be adding our own?
AND THE TIME SOME HOMO PROLLY FROM THIS SITE TRIED TO LINE UP MY GIXXER1000 DOWN THE MOTORWAY WITH AN APRILLIA 250 , PULLING UP BESIDE ME REVVING HIS HEAPOSHIT AND TRYING TO EGGME ON , FINALLY I GOT ANNOYED DROPED IT DOWN A FEW GEARS WHEN WE GOT TO ABOUT 160 K AND HE WOULDA THOUGHT HE WAS KEEPING UP I PULLED A WHEELSTAND AND FUCKED OFF DAMN PESKY BIKERS WHO DONT KNOW THAT BRINGING AN APRILLIA 250 TO A DRAG RACE AGAINST A GIXXER 1000 IS LIKE BRINGING A RUBBER SPATULA TO A GUN FIGHT

[myvice]

Burnt off a Fiat 500 on a pushbike...
Dose that count?

[N4CR]

Well fuck.. I had a big challenge today. One of these badarse (1980 corolla) cars kept rolling forwards at the lights and then tried to zing off, squeeling the tyres.

I think they were florists or something as well >_< (http://www.i80s.com/80s_culture/culture_images/1980_images/toyota_corolla_1980.jpg)

I was so suprised I laughed at them and then took up the challenge!

But yeah, so proud beating a 1980s corolla! :sweatdrop 'twas hard work and the engine needed rebuilding afterwards, I might need to invest in some NOS next time.

and a blow off valve

[John]

CBR and VT are 2 different bikes, sub 7 sec is a dream for most 250 riders.
Also on a another note bigger motor doesnt mean better time in cars, Caterham has 0-100 in 3.7sec, using an 1800 non turbo.
Same said for Areil Atom.
From recall the 20v or the suchaged levin does 6.8sec, but dont quote me on that. Once you got to dragwars or something similar you realise quite quickly that cars arent as slow as they were in the 80's.
The only reason i prefer bikes is cos cars are too 'fake' these days, bikes have essentailly remain similar to what they have always been.
a zxr that does a quater pass in 14.1 with a 90kg 6'2/1 guy on it with no mods cant recall speed.

oh and your cool.

[VasalineWarrior]

Just use second gear. Easier on the motor

[WINJA]

How many cars do you know that can wheelie?
MY MATE OWNED A FUTURA WITH A 429 COBRA JET , BLOWER ,NOS ALL THE GOODIES AND THAT COULD WHEEL STAND, I WENT FOR A RIDE AND SAT IT IN YAWNING , YEAH IT COULD DO A 10 SEC 1/4 BUT MY BIKE CAN DO THEM ALL THE WAY TO PIHA AND BACK

[justsomeguy]

Was riding my ZZR250 down the North Western yesterday and tried to play with a Lamborghini Gallardo.... boy can that thing move.

[vtec]

a zxr that does a quater pass in 14.1 with a 90kg 6'2/1 guy on it with no mods cant recall speed.

oh and your cool.

Sounds about right, I've taken my car and motorbike down the strip, in My 1995 Vtec Prelude I got 14.86@152k/hr (came second in the second Honda vs Toyota drag day 2 litre's and over). And on my 1990 CBR250RR I got 14.3@147k/hr. The bike was on a really shit day where there was mud and crap on the track, had to launch softly, cause I was losing rear traction. But my point is that you'll notice that the car had the higher trap speed, which means it has better acceleration once you get over 100k/hr, but its about 6 seconds 0-100, whereas the bike is about 5 flat (when you don't have traction issues). There's not that many cars including turbos that do faster than 5 flat. So a screaming 250 should deal to nearly any car from the lights. Just you'd have no show on the motorway or even open road, but that would be naughty anyway.

P.S. Justsomeguy, wait till you get a 600 or larger, and then you'll show the gallardo how to do it. Can't wait, I'll be getting a 600 at the end of the year... not long now.

[limbimtimwim]

Was riding my ZZR250 down the North Western yesterday and tried to play with a Lamborghini Gallardo.... boy can that thing move.Porsche Cayenne kicked my fat arse in a straight line a while back. Still, those things do have a trillion turbos, 8 litres, and 13.5 or so cylinders...

Oh, and a rich poo in the drivers seat :-)

[R6_kid]

from experience, a screaming 250 (CBR,ZXR,FZR, GSXR) will take nearly any non turbo car off the lights... soon as you meet a hill or 140kmh(ish) the car will start to take control of the 'race'...

[R6_kid]

P.S. Justsomeguy, wait till you get a 600 or larger, and then you'll show the gallardo how to do it. Can't wait, I'll be getting a 600 at the end of the year... not long now.

try 6th gear acceleration better than most modded cars out on the road... a lot of fun.

i was speed matching these arabs in a Libero... was so funny to see him 'racing' me, while i sit there on his tail thinking 'when should i drop the bomb'... i backed off when we got to 175kmh on the southern motorway at 10.30am... figured it wouldnt be the best time to be breaking the speed limit on a main highway :whistle:

[vtec]

Good idea just letting that one go Gareth. Its not worth getting busted. Plus at 175k/hr you don't have too much speed left to get on the 250. I've managed 190 on a slight down hill gradient.

[N4CR]

try 6th gear acceleration better than most modded cars out on the road... a lot of fun.

i was speed matching these arabs in a Libero... was so funny to see him 'racing' me, while i sit there on his tail thinking 'when should i drop the bomb'... i backed off when we got to 175kmh on the southern motorway at 10.30am... figured it wouldnt be the best time to be breaking the speed limit on a main highway :whistle:

You mean you had to change out of first gear D:!!!! daaaarnit.


So a screaming 250 should deal to nearly any car from the lights. Just you'd have no show on the motorway or even open road, but that would be naughty anyway.

Yeah thats exactly right - I can stay with (if I start dragging at 130~) a dc2 teg type R till about 180 and then they will pull away as cars always have that top end (better power to aero drag ratio). We need a needle shaped bike or something that just powers through the air :love:

[R6_kid]

We need a needle shaped bike or something that just powers through the air :love:

or more torque (eg from a larger engine) to plow through it...

[John]

or more torque (eg from a larger engine) to plow through it...
Your not part of the zxr club now, you traitor leaveeeeeeee

[R6_kid]

Your not part of the zxr club now, you traitor leaveeeeeeee

go back to the cage john or i will release the gimp. The ZXR isnt sold yet so technically i still am (rode one on thursday anyway).

[John]

go back to the cage john or i will release the gimp. The ZXR isnt sold yet so technically i still am (rode one on thursday anyway).
yea, but you have a yamaha. who does that?

[R6_kid]

yea, but you have a yamaha. who does that?

someone that doesn't bitch and moan about manufacturers unless its purely pisstake

p.s I LOVE YOU TOO JOHN :apumpin:

[John]

someone that doesn't bitch and moan about manufacturers unless its purely pisstake

p.s I LOVE YOU TOO JOHN :apumpin:
yea your mums a whore and I paid treeefiddy for a full service...

ps I love your mum to gareth...

[R6_kid]

ps I love your mum to gareth...

not as much as hasselhoff loved you in those german school boy shorts... or was that the leather and chains, i can never remember.

[vtec]

Jesus, you guys still baiting each other.

[John]

Jesus, you guys still baiting each other. I was loving this thread till you guys broke it :(
typical honda candidate.

[R6_kid]

lol, yeh and we're on msn too!!!

hmmm V-twin 250 vs 1.6L Inline four.... at the end of the day if the guy was really trying he woulda smoked the bike.

on a screaming 250 you woulda got him off the line and maybe a few 100m til his car kicked in but then you could kiss your ass goodbye (unless you were lucky to have a phantom* edition ZXR like john does)

*phantom- derestricted and factory turbo ZXR250 made in limited numbers, never advertised, very little known about...

[N4CR]

*phantom- derestricted and factory turbo ZXR250 made in limited numbers, never advertised, very little known about...

Excuse me.. don't you mean my bike. Johns is just ghey and looks like a banana.

And the 'phantom edition' is a geek joke remember. Fucking x800xt *PE*'s :|

/kills thread deader and deader to death.

[justsomeguy]

*phantom- derestricted and factory turbo ZXR250 made in limited numbers, never advertised, very little known about...

Lets talk bout this tomorrow shall we.:niceone:

John- bugger you couldn't get the day off. Cos there'd be 4 ZXR250 owners meeting then..... ah fook it there's always next weekend.

[John]

Excuse me.. don't you mean my bike. Johns is just ghey and looks like a banana.

And the 'phantom edition' is a geek joke remember. Fucking x800xt *PE*'s :|

/kills thread deader and deader to death.
PE is no phantom ... YOU BASTARD I HAVE ONE ! .... sort of, well mine overcocks to those speeds you nub.

and I think you mean phantom = vapourware, but whatever your jokes are gay.

JSG oh well, dont want to show you guys up anyways ;0

[justsomeguy]

JSG oh well, dont want to show you guys up anyways ;0

You coming to the track day on the 18th of dec? You guys can take turns lapping me.:whistle:

[John]

You coming to the track day on the 18th of dec? You guys can take turns lapping me.:whistle:
time will tell young one, hope I can... anyways motogp times

[N4CR]

Lets talk bout this tomorrow shall we.:niceone:

John- bugger you couldn't get the day off. Cos there'd be 4 ZXR250 owners meeting then..... ah fook it there's always next weekend.

Where's this?

I don't have drinks tomorrow so whatever ride sounds good.



PE is no phantom ... YOU BASTARD I HAVE ONE ! .... sort of, well mine overcocks to those speeds you nub.

and I think you mean phantom = vapourware, but whatever your jokes are gay.

JSG oh well, dont want to show you guys up anyways ;0



NO I MEAN PHANTOM EDITION, AS IN THE AVAILIABILITY OF THE X800XT PE AT STORES WAS ALMOST NON-EXISTANT AND WAS A PAPER LAUNCH PRETTY MUCH. AND YEAH IS VAPOUR WARE. AND NO SHIT YOURS OVERCLOCKS THAT MUCH BUT MINE GOES HARDER MUAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

[justsomeguy]

Where's this?

We gonna be at Pheonix's place. Sanding down my bike.

[vtec]

lol, yeh and we're on msn too!!!

hmmm V-twin 250 vs 1.6L Inline four.... at the end of the day if the guy was really trying he woulda smoked the bike.

on a screaming 250 you woulda got him off the line and maybe a few 100m til his car kicked in but then you could kiss your ass goodbye (unless you were lucky to have a phantom* edition ZXR like john does)

*phantom- derestricted and factory turbo ZXR250 made in limited numbers, never advertised, very little known about...

Dude, there's no way a levin would pass a screaming 250 within half a mile (800m) of the start, and it would only start gaining on the bike once you got over 150-160k/hr. Levin's (20v) have an unproven 165 HP, my prelude has over 200 HP, and it is still well behind the bike at the end of 400metres, over half a second to be accurate. I don't think I've ever seen a Levin break 15 seconds for the quarter, and the 250 is capable of 14 flat.

P.S. HP figures are from the flywheel not at the wheels, and the Levin's figure is disputed.

[gamgee]

You coming to the track day on the 18th of dec? You guys can take turns lapping me.:whistle:
hey thats my birthday 18 dec!

[kro]

I pitted my FZR1000 against an EVO 2 once, the EVO did better than I expected.

[MOTOXXX]

i own both a bike and a 1.6 20v toyota trueno (levin but different bumper)

a bike would take it down easy. not rocket science

[mini_me]

Personally I wouldn't be celebrating about beating a 1.6, but hey have fun

lol, dont underestimate the blacktop 4age
building a hillclimber out of a '92 corolla fx-gt with a 20valve blacktop in it
and i can see im gonna have a hard time beating it once its all up and running
(the dude who owns it is a pretty l33t driver)
m/m

[gamgee]

why?? why wouldn't you put it in the lighter starlet body? you'll still beat it off the line easily!

[jeremysprite]

i had my first drag the other day, from a standing start. Bike made lots of noise, but didn't go very fast, kept even with the other vehicle for about 8m (long time on my bike) until i got into 3rd and ripped it down the hill. uh oh, corner approached and i had to ram on my not-up-to-wof-standard brakes on hard. Anyhow, destroyed that guy. (my friend driving a toyota townace full of people :apumpin: )

[John]

no matter what I do I always beat the guy whos on my left side, his bikes black, as is his lethers, sometimes he keeps infront of me on the right the cheeky bugger.

[HDTboy]

lol, dont underestimate the blacktop 4age
building a hillclimber out of a '92 corolla fx-gt with a 20valve blacktop in it
and i can see im gonna have a hard time beating it once its all up and running
(the dude who owns it is a pretty l33t driver)
m/m
I'm not underestimating them, I had a 1st gen MR2 for a while, the 4A-GE is a bloody gret little motor, but it is still a 1.6L

[mini_me]

why?? why wouldn't you put it in the lighter starlet body? you'll still beat it off the line easily!

yeah off the line, but that thing has been kitted out with TRD springs bilsteins and brembo brakes front and rear, LSD's and shit like that
so it has been totally stripped out so it weighs about 800 - 900 kg's and with big fat tires it can outbrake me and can corner faster than me and when it comes down to it that is what really matters when it comes to being fast on the road all your 0 - 60 times dont really mean squat
its the same agrument us bikers have over the big yank tanks and there big 6 litre v8's

m/m

[mini_me]

I'm not underestimating them, I had a 1st gen MR2 for a while, the 4A-GE is a bloody gret little motor, but it is still a 1.6L

your motor is still a 250cc (dont get all up im arms - im just using that as an example)
the size of an engine doesnt totally predispose it performance
"theortically" you can get 500hp out of a 50cc engine albeit for several seconds but the fact still remains (yes i am aware that it will have 2/5's of fuck all torque)
I probably just misread the meaning of your first post then gone and put my foot in my mouth :crybaby:
but it does annoy me when people look at a car and say, "nah, it wont go fast its only a 1300." or "its only a 1000."
m/m

[HDTboy]

I agree, during the turbo F1 car days they were getting 1500Bhp from 1.5L motors for qualifying.
I was working under the assumption that it was a standard Levin, which isn't a hugely fast car

[gamgee]

yeah well just look at bloody rotaries, they're only a 1300cc engine but would give a fair few bikes a run for there money in a drag race (specially the turbo ones)

[N4CR]

no matter what I do I always beat the guy whos on my left side, his bikes black, as is his lethers, sometimes he keeps infront of me on the right the cheeky bugger.

Yeah ghost rider has been a bit rusty lately eh.

I might need to sharpen up and stop letting the newbs win

[mini_me]

I agree, during the turbo F1 car days they were getting 1500Bhp from 1.5L motors for qualifying.
I was working under the assumption that it was a standard Levin, which isn't a hugely fast car

toyata has quoted figures of 175 hp for their blacktop 4age but most of these engines on the road would be lucky to get 140 becuse the owners dont run them on the necessary 110 octane fuel (for obvious reasons) as well as them being heavy as hell and having boatlike suspension, but the IMHO it has one of the most potential motors when it comes to reliablilty vs. power

m/m

[SlowHand]

wasn't it also something to do with dyno'ing it without the ancillaries fitted? Whereas other manufacturers, ie. Honda, dyno'ed it with aircon etc fitted?

[John]

Yeah ghost rider has been a bit rusty lately eh.

I might need to sharpen up and stop letting the newbs win
yes my shadow is ghostrider and I sas him.

[mini_me]

wasn't it also something to do with dyno'ing it without the ancillaries fitted? Whereas other manufacturers, ie. Honda, dyno'ed it with aircon etc fitted?

pass, i was lead to believe that in order to get that power out of a the silver/black tops you needed to run them on avgas all the time

m/m

[ducatilover]

Jeeze, how quickly a post can turn into a bun fight eh? We've all got stories about trouncing some dude in a hot car. Like the time yeeeeaaars ago when my $1500 FZ400R absolutely trounced a guy in his then new and VERY expensive Audi quattro turbo from the lights onto open road- very satisfying.

Telling stories both tall and true about our exploits is a part of the biker culture. Instead of picking Gamgees tale to bits, maybe we should be adding our own?
i tried to 'race' a speed tripple from the lights. i think he wet himself as he tootled away in first gear :argh: it was quite funny.
speaking of 0-100 times, i found a spec/test thingy on the honda bros 650 [im getting it soon :niceone: ] and they do it in 4 secs :devil2: not too shabby for an oldish bike. they apparently top out at 115mph [185.058ish] but i wont do that would i? :whistle: i saw some real old bike magazines from when the old man had his brand new xs1100 and they did it in 4.1seconds :devil2: the bros is faster :devil2: [though the xs had shitty tyres as sport tyres didnt exist]

[ducatilover]

Tried both and still reckon bikes are more fun. How many cars do you know that can wheelie?
my mate can wheelie his old mans fiat bambina :devil2:

[MOTOXXX]

Boat like suspension?
i dont think so. have you been in a car with super strut?
doesnt feel like a boat to me.
my trueno is a 20v black top and yea i dont rate it at all. nice car to drive though. doesnt have superstrut but not bad suspension . :sunny:


toyata has quoted figures of 175 hp for their blacktop 4age but most of these engines on the road would be lucky to get 140 becuse the owners dont run them on the necessary 110 octane fuel (for obvious reasons) as well as them being heavy as hell and having boatlike suspension, but the IMHO it has one of the most potential motors when it comes to reliablilty vs. power

m/m

[mini_me]

Boat like suspension?
i dont think so. have you been in a car with super strut?
doesnt feel like a boat to me.
my trueno is a 20v black top and yea i dont rate it at all. nice car to drive though. doesnt have superstrut but not bad suspension . :sunny:

my bad, i haven't been in a bz-g levin but have been in one of those gt-apex one and in my opinion it wasnt that great - sure comparing it to a boat was out of line but I was just making a point

m/m

[vtec]

I've heard that the super strut's had some issues? Maybe they get screwed easily and thats why it felt like a boat? I'm pretty sure they have quite firm suspension as far as little sporty jappers go.