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iYRe
17th March 2025, 11:03
Ogura's team, not Ogura.
ah yeah.. well.. I didnt read the article properly, hehe. "Non-homologated software" - ECU apparently. They think it might have been left on from testing or something.
BMWST?
17th March 2025, 15:35
Zarco did good in the GP, Ogura did a big booboo.
Alex M looked really fast, but I guess big bro was just playing with him too.
Dunno what is up with Pecco.. holding on to 4th..
Pecco always seems to be a little slow to get the bike set up right at the beginning of the season. its was the same the last couple of seasons. The trouble for him is his team mate can adapt his style immediately as required as we have seen in the flag to flags. Mark was pushing hard said he didnt like the feel of the front he had a couple of big moments but he said he felt mmore comfortable as the race went on. He pulled out 1 second after the overtake almost immediately
onearmedbandit
17th March 2025, 15:39
Mark was pushing hard said he didnt like the feel of the front he had a couple of big moments but he said he felt mmore comfortable as the race went on. He pulled out 1 second after the overtake almost immediately
Where did you see that? In the post race interview he said the rear, did he change his thoughts later?
iYRe
17th March 2025, 16:12
Where did you see that? In the post race interview he said the rear, did he change his thoughts later?
On paddock pass they said MM had said he nearly lost the front a couple of times..
onearmedbandit
17th March 2025, 16:14
On paddock pass they said MM had said he nearly lost the front a couple of times..
Ah, didn't watch that yet. In parc ferme he stated the rear was the issue.
onearmedbandit
17th March 2025, 16:16
That's gotta sting...
iYRe
17th March 2025, 16:16
Ah, didn't watch that yet. In parc ferme he stated the rear was the issue.
to be fair I think it was both there for a minute.
I reckon he needed to pass Alex because it was slowing him down and his flow wasnt flowing.. once he did.. 1.3 secs..
COTA is going to be interesting.
iYRe
18th March 2025, 10:36
Interesting comments about S Crafar as head of stewards on the Crash podcast. They were saying how the decisions he has made so far have been spot on, and how even the riders have said "fair call". One (cant remember which one they said" commented that Simon had spoken to him and pointed out where he went wrong, and said he had learned something.
It was very high praise.. go Simon - represent.
BMWST?
18th March 2025, 20:57
Interesting comments about S Crafar as head of stewards on the Crash podcast. They were saying how the decisions he has made so far have been spot on, and how even the riders have said "fair call". One (cant remember which one they said" commented that Simon had spoken to him and pointed out where he went wrong, and said he had learned something.
It was very high praise.. go Simon - represent.
and I think Simon still does the demo lap(s) on the 1000 rr. I recall hearing that. overloaded after watching all motogp seesions and the paddock pass podcast and fter the flag and the pres conference. So i cant say who said it
onearmedbandit
18th March 2025, 22:10
and I think Simon still does the demo lap(s) on the 1000 rr. I recall hearing that. overloaded after watching all motogp seesions and the paddock pass podcast and fter the flag and the pres conference. So i cant say who said it
Yeah they mentioned that a couple times during practice sessions on the MotoGP broadcast.
iYRe
19th March 2025, 06:59
and today's big news, I guess, is Pecco is supposedly going back to his 2024 bike. He might regain his feeling but will that make him able to fight with MM? Or even Alex? He's like a second/lap slower.
F5 Dave
19th March 2025, 13:45
What's the diff? Swing arm and aero?
Maybe it will suit his style better?
You can imagine Dovi visiting the pit. "See how i felt?"
Thought experiment. Marc on Zarcos bike if he'd stayed with Honda. Hmm.
onearmedbandit
19th March 2025, 13:58
Thought experiment. Marc on Zarcos bike if he'd stayed with Honda. Hmm.
They are considerably slower than the competition on the straights, I could still see Marc throwing it away trying to make up for that deficit.
sugilite
19th March 2025, 16:09
I feel sorry for Ogura getting disqualified. What an incredible talant. Possibly even an alien in training?
iYRe
19th March 2025, 16:47
I feel sorry for Ogura getting disqualified. What an incredible talant. Possibly even an alien in training?
I am not an expert, but he sure is good
Bagnaia 🗣️ "Marc is very strong, he's the rider to beat ,starting with the next race. 31 points is already a lot to recover, and we have to keep in mind that the next race will be in Austin, where he is very strong , I'll return to the GP24, because at the moment my feelings are very strange."
"Marc: The most important thing is that both Alex and I are being very honest. Before the race, we shared which tire we thought was the best, and afterward, we also share the race plan I had, and if he was leading, the plan I thought he should follow. And it was that: conserve half the race and, from there, lower those two or three tenths I had. When I was behind him, I said, 'Look, he's doing it now.' And I was able to follow him, but I had been very honest with him about what the plan was, that he had to save tires, that it didn't matter if they followed us in the first ten laps. And that's what we did. In the end, when I tried to overtake him, and that lap when I did 1:38.2, and he also responded with a very fast lap, that's when he did surprise me and caught me a little off guard. I even hesitated whether to stay in that second position or not, but then I saw that he was starting to suffer a little more from the tires.He surpasses Doohan's 27 hat tricks.
Marc: I had many long calls with Doohan when I was at home with my arm in a sling. To equal and be compared to all these legends is an honor, but now, there's one thing that stands out above all else: yet another perfect weekend with my brother. We're in MotoGP, and it seems like,: No, this is normal now, it's back to normal. Yesterday, I was in the office after the Sprint and I was telling the two Joses : This isn't normal, we're going to be happy.' Everyone acted as if it were normal. Everything's going well. This year, Alex is going to win races, he's going to make things difficult, he has some very good tracks, and I'm proud of how he's working, and I'm also proud of how our team is working.
F5 Dave
19th March 2025, 20:21
They are considerably slower than the competition on the straights, I could still see Marc throwing it away trying to make up for that deficit.
Yes but good as Zarco is, he's an old hand, he admits that. But he was right up there for a good amount of time.
The honda was slower than Dovi's Ducati back then.
Would it be as easy? Hell no.
But he'd be several places up on Zazco. And that's fighting for the lead I'd offer maybe?
onearmedbandit
19th March 2025, 20:25
Maybe, but not without risk. I'm hoping to see Marc absolutely white wash the competition this season.
pritch
20th March 2025, 20:43
On paddock pass they said MM had said he nearly lost the front a couple of times..
He had one clearly visible ooops.
onearmedbandit
26th March 2025, 12:39
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Poor Pecco!
iYRe
26th March 2025, 12:40
That is pretty special
SaferRides
27th March 2025, 01:59
COTA this weekend! Always a great race, especially now that Marquez hasn't won for years. Can he do it this year?
I might have to buy an event videopass for this one, if that's still possible.
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iYRe
27th March 2025, 06:08
COTA this weekend! Always a great race, especially now that Marquez hasn't won for years. Can he do it this year?
I might have to buy an event videopass for this one, if that's still possible.
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Rumour has it that AM has learned to go faster on left hand turns than his brother.. so who knows? Maybe Aprilia will get on the podium, that would be cool. I think if Pecco does not podium though, he is in big trouble.
BMWST?
27th March 2025, 09:26
COTA this weekend! Always a great race, especially now that Marquez hasn't won for years. Can he do it this year?
I might have to buy an event videopass for this one, if that's still possible.
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Not sure you can buy an event pass. Last year i bought several monthly passes though for 29 euros and often it would cover two or even three rces
F5 Dave
27th March 2025, 12:13
So imagine if you will. A change of tyre manufacturer (changing the bias from rear to front) and no devices, much less aero forcing the front down .
Maybe an IL4 is a better prospect as it was in 2020 2021 perhaps?
Fuck it would be funny (but not for long) if Yamaha introduced their new V4 and the Ducati door opening to a new IL4 with a smiling Gigi next to it :laugh:
iYRe
27th March 2025, 12:15
If anyone is interested, this is Jack Miller on Gypsy Tales, hard case chat they have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BIDDentKNU
iYRe
28th March 2025, 09:49
And todays news:
Pecco Bagnaia has told Sky Sport Italia that he isn't switching back to the Ducati GP24
“Unluckily, I’m not very good at explaining things in English, maybe, because what I wanted to explain is I want to be back to my feeling of the GP24,” he said.
“I don’t want to switch to the GP24, also because it’s not possible.
“So, I know the new bike has a better potential, Marc is showing it. So, I just need to focus and find back my feeling.”
On where he is losing out on the GP25, Bagnaia revealed: “Analysing the performance, I’m missing in the entrance to the corners - entry speed to the corners.
“That was a peculiarly good point from my riding style. So, we have to focus on it and try to improve.”
From Crash.net
F5 Dave
28th March 2025, 11:44
I did wonder where they were going to geta couple of 24s. Put him on Martins old bike?:lol: But also Dorna rules i think, won't allow regression (for all it's worth of tiny changes seemingly).
SaferRides
28th March 2025, 12:14
I did wonder where they were going to geta couple of 24s. Put him on Martins old bike?[emoji38] But also Dorna rules i think, won't allow regression (for all it's worth of tiny changes seemingly).I understand that they have to inform Dorna what bikes they are going to race at the start of the season, and Ducati can't change that because they do not have any concessions. Or something like that.
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BMWST?
28th March 2025, 12:59
I understand that they have to inform Dorna what bikes they are going to race at the start of the season, and Ducati can't change that because they do not have any concessions. Or something like that.
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That seems odd to me.Given that other teams are using GP24s why cant Ducati olso use a 24 if they want. Its a known quantity
sugilite
28th March 2025, 13:11
Could this be the first podium for Ogura this week? He likes the track a lot! If he rides like he did in the earlier races and has just a little luck......
"“I finally have the chance to ride the MotoGP bike at the Circuit of the Americas, which is one of my favourite circuits of the calendar and I’m super excited to go there,” Ogura said."
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1065895/1/ai-ogura-super-excited-home-trackhouse-motogp-one-my-favourite-circuits
F5 Dave
28th March 2025, 18:52
That seems odd to me.Given that other teams are using GP24s why cant Ducati olso use a 24 if they want. Its a known quantity
Yeah, but teams need to specify what they ride. The 24 teams have no choice of 25s.
But the factory team decided to use the 24 engine before cut off.
Imagine how many 25 engines are in the skip out the back of Bolonga HQ,
Before being hooked out by mechanics for track bikes?
sugilite
29th March 2025, 11:15
OK, Friday practice is all wrapped up.
The ducks claim the top 5 positions on the time sheets. The slow one out? Bagnaia down in 10th - yikes.
MM is predictably out in front - by .736. It was on a drying track, and he is particularly potent in those conditions. Maybe the true level of others won't be found until the sprint race.
iYRe
29th March 2025, 11:40
OK, Friday practice is all wrapped up.
The ducks claim the top 5 positions on the time sheets. The slow one out? Bagnaia down in 10th - yikes.
MM is predictably out in front - by .736. It was on a drying track, and he is particularly potent in those conditions. Maybe the true level of others won't be found until the sprint race.
Everyone seems to think he'll win, me, I think he'll either run away with it or it will be him v Alex and he'll take it. 3rd place is where the interest is...
iYRe
30th March 2025, 12:35
Epic first lap today..
Also from that JM vid, here is him talking about MM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfnrSdyBbMg
jato
30th March 2025, 12:47
Briefly entertaining hussle from Pedro and a spirited try from Fabio on that Yamaha... that standard script up front though
iYRe
30th March 2025, 12:53
Briefly entertaining hussle from Pedro and a spirited try from Fabio on that Yamaha... that standard script up front though
yup, A;though Pecco was matching lap times a few laps in, so maybe if he can get off the line and keep it together... AM said that first lap was pushing real hard heh
onearmedbandit
31st March 2025, 12:23
Well that sure was interesting.
iYRe
31st March 2025, 12:26
Well that sure was interesting.
Yes, very interesting lol
And then the limits are sooooo slim.. a few mm of wet paint can lose you a race when you're seconds ahead.
BMWST?
31st March 2025, 12:27
i was watching him cross the kerbs and thought hmmmmm
onearmedbandit
31st March 2025, 13:37
Reading about the start, Marc knew if 10 riders followed his move there would be no penalty. The guy is a master of the racing game in every facet.
iYRe
31st March 2025, 13:39
Reading about the start, Marc knew if 10 riders followed his move there would be no penalty. The guy is a master of the racing game in every facet.
He's one of those annoying people, got skills, brains, talent, seems like a decent bloke, and got the looks.
At least Alex still got second lol
iYRe
1st April 2025, 06:35
So, if you change your tyres you dont start from pit lane, you rejoin and do a ride through penalty, so everyone got it wrong:
https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2025/03/31/unmissable-watch-marc-marquez-decide-on-his-grid-gamble-and-decide-wrong/522811
mulletman
1st April 2025, 09:22
Had a wee prang
https://youtu.be/KUtS6nLiIB8?si=Ud-7ZLqkZZC35iz-
BMWST?
1st April 2025, 11:16
So, if you change your tyres you dont start from pit lane, you rejoin and do a ride through penalty, so everyone got it wrong:
https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2025/03/31/unmissable-watch-marc-marquez-decide-on-his-grid-gamble-and-decide-wrong/522811
MM did get that wrong but I think his actual strategy was to get the race restarted. 9 riders had to follow him.
iYRe
1st April 2025, 11:25
MM did get that wrong but I think his actual strategy was to get the race restarted. 9 riders had to follow him.
Apparently not, according to Crash... not even 10 followed anyway, like half a dozen. There was chaos, Vinales didnt have a bike on track, others were running around...
MM has a history of this though. There was a race he went out on a soft rain tyre, told the team he'd be in after one lap for slicks, came in, swapped and won by 13 secs. Crutchlow said "I saw what you were doing but it was too late to respond you F&(*&^*^&^" heh
F5 Dave
2nd April 2025, 07:34
Had a wee prang
https://youtu.be/KUtS6nLiIB8?si=Ud-7ZLqkZZC35iz-
Oxymoron right there:facepalm:
diesel pig
2nd April 2025, 10:34
Had a wee prang
https://youtu.be/KUtS6nLiIB8?si=Ud-7ZLqkZZC35iz-
He just got overexcited. It happens to also all of us at some stage of life.
F5 Dave
2nd April 2025, 12:08
To be fair, it looks like a damn slippery track in the wet withthecar. Good thing it wasn't for the bikes. Really.
Heck just sunk in the ironing that Marc fell off in light of pre race shenanigans.
I had mentioned to a mates when I saw grid that it looked like Bags was falling apart like an Italian motorbike (ok so I added that last bit just now). Good to be proven wrong. Maybe it will give him the confidence to take the fight to the Bros in Qatar.
Didn't Jack do well?
SaferRides
3rd April 2025, 06:39
That was crazy at the start. At least everyone knows the rules now, but they may need more changes to stop it happening again.
Mav trying to find his bike was hilarious!
Yes, well done Jack. First non-Ducati ( there should be an award at each race) and way ahead of the next Yamaha.
That was a bad mistake by Marc, not sure why he was pushing that hard as he'd opened a good gap.
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iYRe
3rd April 2025, 06:44
That was crazy at the start. At least everyone knows the rules now, but they may need more changes to stop it happening again.
Mav trying to find his bike was hilarious!
Yes, well done Jack. First non-Ducati ( there should be an award at each race) and way ahead of the next Yamaha.
That was a bad mistake by Marc, not sure why he was pushing that hard as he'd opened a good gap.
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There is argument that MM has an issue when it is too easy.. clearly the dude is always thinking about what's going on apart from just getting the bike around the circuit - everyone else is sitting on the grid and Marc is working out a plan to get into everyone's heads. Perhaps his concentration just drifts a fraction when he is not having to come from last, or wrestle a beast. It's possibly Pecco's only chance lol
SaferRides
3rd April 2025, 07:38
There is argument that MM has an issue when it is too easy.. clearly the dude is always thinking about what's going on apart from just getting the bike around the circuit - everyone else is sitting on the grid and Marc is working out a plan to get into everyone's heads. Perhaps his concentration just drifts a fraction when he is not having to come from last, or wrestle a beast. It's possibly Pecco's only chance lolThe last 2 races he followed Alex for many laps, which gave him something to do. It's not the first time he's crashed out when leading, although COTA seems to be an easy place to crash. Even Zarco did!
I expect Acosta's manger will be busy once they are back in Europe. This must be the worst KTM for some time.
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iYRe
3rd April 2025, 07:43
The last 2 races he followed Alex for many laps, which gave him something to do. It's not the first time he's crashed out when leading, although COTA seems to be an easy place to crash. Even Zarco did!
I expect Acosta's manger will be busy once they are back in Europe. This must be the worst KTM for some time.
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Where do you reckon Costa will go then?
SaferRides
3rd April 2025, 08:18
I'm sure he'd like a Ducati - it would have to be Gresini, but who would be replace?
Honda and Yamaha still have some way to go and Pedro is in a hurry. Otherwise Aprillia but we won't know how fast it really is until Martin gets up to speed.
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SaferRides
3rd April 2025, 08:18
https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/1066645/1/pedro-acostas-motogp-future-what-does-he-does-he-do-next
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iYRe
3rd April 2025, 09:05
No one knows eh? I've watched all the main channels on YT, and a number of the dodgy ones.. lol - nothing is any clearer
jato
3rd April 2025, 09:44
Given the limited options he could do worse than getting in LCR alongside Zarco who seems to be pretty good at nudging that Honda in the right direction imo
F5 Dave
3rd April 2025, 11:46
Given the limited options he could do worse than getting in LCR alongside Zarco who seems to be pretty good at nudging that Honda in the right direction imo
Gee you wouldn't say that last year. But you might be right.
Always thought Morbidelli would get nerfed for Acosta, but hasn't he got back on track given a 2024?
Marc mistake isn't so surprising as that track has multiple curves in s that compound especially at that sort of speed. Has to happen sometime.
Pity after such a chess game at the start.
SaferRides
3rd April 2025, 12:01
Given the limited options he could do worse than getting in LCR alongside Zarco who seems to be pretty good at nudging that Honda in the right direction imoNot LCR unless they let Zarco go, which seems unlikely. The other LCR seat is for an Asian rider. Marini is off contract next year, so it could be there. But that would be a tough call on him.
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F5 Dave
3rd April 2025, 13:00
Apparently MM was standing beside his bike at the start, so Peco knew something was up. If Marc runs you run. Lessens his advantage or equals your disadvantage.
That is the rule Martin didn't follow when he pulled in at Italian GP instead of doing what Peco does, and almost cost him championship.
iYRe
4th April 2025, 06:34
So, I think Acosta is going to stay with KTM. His only other option really is VR46 to get a decent bike, and that will be a bit tricky - although if VR wants him, he's in I guess.
F5 Dave
4th April 2025, 07:55
Well. . . Any Dooclatterie now is a good one and 26 engines frozen to 24 spec. All that changes is support.
BMWST?
4th April 2025, 22:05
MM was crossing the kerbs which i thought was a bit dicy,but he had been cutting them the whole race,he says he just cut that one a bit too much
SaferRides
6th April 2025, 04:30
MM was crossing the kerbs which i thought was a bit dicy,but he had been cutting them the whole race,he says he just cut that one a bit too muchThey all seem to crash, Peccco has now finished 6 races in a row which must be close to a record for him.
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pritch
6th April 2025, 10:38
That seems odd to me.Given that other teams are using GP24s why cant Ducati olso use a 24 if they want. Its a known quantity
IIRC the factories have to nominate exactly which seven engines they will use during the season and those engines are sealed prior to the first race. Concessions relax some rules and may increase the number of engines up to nine.
BMWST?
6th April 2025, 13:28
IIRC the factories have to nominate exactly which seven engines they will use during the season and those engines are sealed prior to the first race. Concessions relax some rules and may increase the number of engines up to nine.
too many rules imho. The teams should be free to use any combination of past models. The tyre pressure rules are also a negative in my opinion.
SaferRides
6th April 2025, 14:03
too many rules imho. The teams should be free to use any combination of past models. The tyre pressure rules are also a negative in my opinion.The tyre pressure rules are for safety, and exist in many motorsport categories for the same reason.
MotoGP may have tried to be too clever by setting minimum pressures during the race, but it appears that after a revision, most teams, apart from Ducati, are able to comply now.
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F5 Dave
6th April 2025, 14:16
Imagine if the got so soft that they deformed so badly under huge stress braking that they de-beaded.
Dooclattery are so far ahead the constraints vs concessions give other factories the incentive to continue, rather than pull out like Suzuki did.
Reckless
9th April 2025, 14:58
Hi All
Been away for a month freedom camping in the race trailer/camper I built, in the South Island, so had to have a big catchup.
Downloaded all the MotoGp Races via reddit MotoGp thread and associated links and had a crash course on the first 3 meetings.
Few hours watching while the next meeting downloaded and it was done and dusted.
Only to discover 3Now has all the races again this year after an ad popped up, go figure, always learn after, never before Bugger :rolleyes:
For the first time I felt a little same old, same old, with the Marquez boys repeating their finishes on multiple occasions.
MM crashing in the last one was the only exciting bit (not that I watch the races for crashes).
Might try and watch a bit of our Kiwi lad in Moto3 if I get time.
Now that 3now has it and I didn't subscribe for the first 3 races. I might do last years exercise and either watch live or download now I have a superfast USB drive I can take from the computer to the TV.
Looks like its all Ducati again this year with KTM all at sea and Yamaha and Honda trying hard but not quite there yet.
See what this weekend brings
Looks like both Qatar MotoGP races are on Sunday Monday 5am our time wonder how quick 3now wil have them up????
iYRe
9th April 2025, 15:07
3Now seem like they are a week late...
Motomundo is being continually DDOS'd at the moment, and my rugby go to rubu.tv (free for 2 days using unverified credentials) is not working either.. woe is me.
SaferRides
9th April 2025, 23:07
3Now seem like they are a week late...
Motomundo is being continually DDOS'd at the moment, and my rugby go to rubu.tv (free for 2 days using unverified credentials) is not working either.. woe is me.Oh, that's not good. I'll see what's out there at the weekend.
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BMWST?
11th April 2025, 08:32
Following on from breif discussion above re the number of rules. This is actually WSBK but i cant find a current thread. Is there one? Anyway Ducati and BMW have had a fuel flow limit imposed on them. Apparently there is a MSMA (Motorcycle Superbike Manufacturers Association) algorithm and both Ducati and BMW have to reduce their fuel flow rate by 0.5 kg/hr.That seems a lot to me but who knows. If the burn rate is 100kg an hour its not so bad. There appears to be some kind of measuring device or limiting device on each bike
https://photos.worldsbk.com/2025/04/10/082f5de3-58da-1ea6-6229-756b020b672f_full.jpg
SaferRides
11th April 2025, 11:01
Following on from breif discussion above re the number of rules. This is actually WSBK but i cant find a current thread. Is there one? Anyway Ducati and BMW have had a fuel flow limit imposed on them. Apparently there is a MSMA (Motorcycle Superbike Manufacturers Association) algorithm and both Ducati and BMW have to reduce their fuel flow rate by 0.5 kg/hr.That seems a lot to me but who knows. If the burn rate is 100kg an hour its not so bad. There appears to be some kind of measuring device or limiting device on each bike
https://photos.worldsbk.com/2025/04/10/082f5de3-58da-1ea6-6229-756b020b672f_full.jpg
One litre of petrol is about 0.75 kg, so maybe 0.4 l in a 40 min. race?
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SaferRides
12th April 2025, 09:16
3Now seem like they are a week late...
Motomundo is being continually DDOS'd at the moment, and my rugby go to rubu.tv (free for 2 days using unverified credentials) is not working either.. woe is me.I was able to download the pre-event press conference from the GoFile link, but trying to download P1 didn't work this morning as the connection limit had been exceeded. That often happens at this time of day as it's evening in Europe, so I'll try later.
So looks normal to me.
I download the videos as that works better for casting with my TV setup.
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Reckless
12th April 2025, 15:37
I Downloaded FP1 off the go file and watched it now downloading Practice.
I started to download practice this moning it was coming down @ 900 KB/s then I bailed on it because wanted to try the Watch online version casting from my phone.
I discovered it runs fine on the phone or computer but it will not cast to any TV we have here finds the TV but does want to load.
Now re downloading Practice now @ 500 KB/s about an hours worth for the 2.9 gig.
I wish they would supply a torrent link they are much faster. Other than Motomundo I cant find any other links on Reddit Motorsport replays for the Qatar GP which is odd????
Has anyone else had the casting Issue?
SaferRides
12th April 2025, 22:50
I Downloaded FP1 off the go file and watched it now downloading Practice.
I started to download practice this moning it was coming down @ 900 KB/s then I bailed on it because wanted to try the Watch online version casting from my phone.
I discovered it runs fine on the phone or computer but it will not cast to any TV we have here finds the TV but does want to load.
Now re downloading Practice now @ 500 KB/s about an hours worth for the 2.9 gig.
I wish they would supply a torrent link they are much faster. Other than Motomundo I cant find any other links on Reddit Motorsport replays for the Qatar GP which is odd????
Has anyone else had the casting Issue?
Which device are you using to download? I downloaded practice on my phone in about 5 minutes, about 9 MB/s. We have 900 Mb fibre though. That speed seems fairly consistent, generally faster than OneDrive is at home.
Mtotmundo seems to be the only option for MotoGP in the Motorsport Replays subreddit. I should make a donation as they are not doing all that on GoFile for free!
I use VLC for playback and no problems casting to my ancient Chromecast, unlike Sky Go which fails regularly.
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Reckless
13th April 2025, 17:54
Which device are you using to download? I downloaded practice on my phone in about 5 minutes, about 9 MB/s. We have 900 Mb fibre though. That speed seems fairly consistent, generally faster than OneDrive is at home.
Mtotmundo seems to be the only option for MotoGP in the Motorsport Replays subreddit. I should make a donation as they are not doing all that on GoFile for free!
I use VLC for playback and no problems casting to my ancient Chromecast, unlike Sky Go which fails regularly.
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I use my computer on fibre, then dump it on a USB stick (1m45 secs for 2.6gig), then plug the USB directly into the TV.
Been out on the dirt bike all day so I just downloading Qually and the Sprint now.
Should here by the time I've unloaded the dirt bike tho, so all good.
Funny thing is if you download more than one it does seem to slow the others up so I got 3 going at once.
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iYRe
13th April 2025, 18:47
Twas a god race, Fabio is lookin pretty pleased after today.
Ominous words from AM, saying that today his brother was faster than him on the right handers, which he was surprised about.
Same words his old Gresini chief said too
BMWST?
13th April 2025, 21:49
Ominous perhaps for #63. I can excuse the crash but what on earth happened later and in the sprint? I didnt quite buy MMs ploy of saying he is not fast there. The VR46 boys are looking good now too.
Wa interesting that in some behind the scenes stuff that the ducatis(MM and AM discussing) suffer from vibration too.Can see the fairings vibrating on all the bikes in the slo mo shots.
iYRe
14th April 2025, 11:15
Well the main race was interesting.. Sucks to be MV though...
MM is just playin again.
Reckless
14th April 2025, 12:15
That was the best race of the season so far MM strategy was spot on.
Not his biggest fan but Feel for MV. AM was overriding a bit.
Franco and VR 46 doing well Diggi didnt deserve that.
Over all good to see some competition :clap:
The bonus was race was at 5am NZ time, not sure when it first arrived but it was up on the 3now app by 8am so no downloading = :banana:
onearmedbandit
14th April 2025, 12:54
Bad luck for Mav and even worse for Jorge
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1067925/1/motogp-champion-jorge-martin-taken-hospital-after-qatar-gp-crash
sugilite
14th April 2025, 13:00
I think it sux that there is a fucking stupid rule that if a rider has a break out ride, they are screwed by this tyre pressure rule. Motogp really need to sort this shit out.
iYRe
14th April 2025, 13:14
Apparently MM backed off the gas a touch thats why AM collected him.
Martin had a prang, and its not good news.
Jorge Martin's CT scan has revealed an increase in the pneumothorax he suffered. The Spaniard will have to remain under observation for a few days in the hospital until the pneumothorax resolves.
Pneumothorax is a medical condition where air collects in the pleural space—the area between the lungs and the chest wall. This air puts pressure on the lung, causing it to partially or fully collapse.
BMWST?
14th April 2025, 14:06
Apparently MM backed off the gas a touch thats why AM collected him.
Martin had a prang, and its not good news.
I think Digi hit him too
pritch
15th April 2025, 08:58
Coupla rumours from Oxley Bom.
Acosta to Honda at season's end. No evidence apparently but from multiple sources.
Kenan Sofuoglu was seen in the MotoGP paddock. The former multiple WSS world champion is currently Toprak Razgatioglu's manager. The rumour has Razgatioglu moving to Honda in Superbikes next season then to MotoGP when the new rules come in for '27.
BMWST?
15th April 2025, 14:06
here is martins crash.Ouch
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8QE1523L42g
F5 Dave
15th April 2025, 19:24
Says 11 ribs, Jesus. I've done 5 and it took months and months.
Reckless
15th April 2025, 20:45
Says 11 ribs, Jesus. I've done 5 and it took months and months.
It'll hurt to laugh thats for sure :(
11 ribs jeepers I would have thought the airbag would have helped more.
Been down twice with my tech 5 and it was great, I won't even ride road without one now.
BMWST?
15th April 2025, 22:51
It'll hurt to laugh thats for sure :(
11 ribs jeepers I would have thought the airbag would have helped more.
Been down twice with my tech 5 and it was great, I won't even ride road without one now.
digi ran straight into him ,thats what did his ribs i reckon
onearmedbandit
16th April 2025, 00:27
Yup this pic gives a better view of how little Digi could do
SaferRides
16th April 2025, 06:06
digi ran straight into him ,thats what did his ribs i reckonYes, that's what did the damage. He would have probably been fine otherwise. He can't fly home until the lung reinflates (I don't know the medical term?), probably months before he can race again.
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jato
16th April 2025, 07:42
It'll hurt to laugh thats for sure :(
11 ribs jeepers I would have thought the airbag would have helped more.
Been down twice with my tech 5 and it was great, I won't even ride road without one now.
Years ago tucked the front while leading and got ran over ... a couple of ribs paid the price. weeks later they'd set and didn't hurt any more. then driving into early morning sun i sneezed - that was worse than getting run over .
pritch
16th April 2025, 11:31
Italian press claim to have the details. Acosta will have the cash. NZ$172 minion and change over three years.
Reckless
16th April 2025, 13:46
Yup this pic gives a better view of how little Digi could do
Jeepers how could I miss that :brick: Thanks makes me feel a bit safer :crazy:
I bought a tech 7 for the track as Tech 5 is on its last blowup @ $500 per time, kept my tech 5 for the road only.
Secondly you can now change the canisters your self 4 times on the 7 so it is way more cost efective.
Acosta might go to Honda if Zarco keeps doing his thing. Overall maybe the wakeup call of MM leaving did Honda a favor.
Its big money but I'd guess winning motovates Acosta more I reckon.
SaferRides
16th April 2025, 20:48
I watched the full race tonight. it was good, I wish I hadn't known that Marc won. But it was obvious he was managing the tyres.
There can't be that much wrong with the KTM if Mav can beat all of the Ducatis except Marc.
The tyre pressure rule is just ridiculous. It has to go, what a fucking joke it made of the post race. Or are Dorna so stupid they don't realize this? It nearly cost Marc the first race, I was amazed he was able to manage it.
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SaferRides
16th April 2025, 20:56
And why don't they use AI for a live translation of the riders' discussion after the race?
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onearmedbandit
16th April 2025, 22:54
I watched the full race tonight. it was good, I wish I hadn't known that Marc won. But it was obvious he was managing the tyres.
There can't be that much wrong with the KTM if Mav can beat all of the Ducatis except Marc.
The tyre pressure rule is an absolute crock of shit. It has to go, what a fucking joke it made of the post race. Or are Dorna so stupid they don't realize this? It nearly cost Marc the first race, I was amazed he was able to manage it.
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Apparently Mav's Rc16 was a different spec to the other three. I read a piece on the tyre rule the other day, which attributed blame equally amongst 3 parties. Obviously Michelin, but also Dorna and the teams. They all had their bit on creating the situation they are in now. I believe they're getting less aero (which is one of the factors) in 2027 so that might help Pirelli deliver the goods.
SaferRides
17th April 2025, 03:01
Apparently Mav's Rc16 was a different spec to the other three.
This is what Herve Poncharal said. So different, but not special.
https://m.gpone.com/en/2025/04/16/motogp/poncharal-i-was-surprised-to-hear-marquez-and-bagnaia-praise-the-ktm.html
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sugilite
17th April 2025, 08:21
Why they do not simply specify a minimum tyre pressure limit to be set at the start of each race I do not know.
onearmedbandit
17th April 2025, 10:20
This is what Herve Poncharal said. So different, but not special.
Yeah none of the reports I heard or read said it was special, just different to the others.
F5 Dave
17th April 2025, 12:48
The Pirelli are less susceptible to tyre pressure in front apparently. Maybe Michelin will bring a front tyre to avoid a bad comparison with 2027?
BMWST?
17th April 2025, 15:20
I watched the full race tonight. it was good, I wish I hadn't known that Marc won. But it was obvious he was managing the tyres.
There can't be that much wrong with the KTM if Mav can beat all of the Ducatis except Marc.
The tyre pressure rule is just ridiculous. It has to go, what a fucking joke it made of the post race. Or are Dorna so stupid they don't realize this? It nearly cost Marc the first race, I was amazed he was able to manage it.
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The scary thing is Marc looks really relaxed on the bike,almost as if he isnt trying. Maverick is FAST .As lng as he has confidece in the bike he is able to beat anybody. I think he was at the end of his front tyre too when he ran wide
onearmedbandit
17th April 2025, 15:55
Kenan Sofuoglu was seen in the MotoGP paddock. The former multiple WSS world champion is currently Toprak Razgatioglu's manager. The rumour has Razgatioglu moving to Honda in Superbikes next season then to MotoGP when the new rules come in for '27.
Watched something interesting on that particular point, all conjecture of course, but it was argued that Toprak will be able to test the 2027 MotoGP bike while in its development phase next year and get a head start on the field with reduced aero and 850cc engines. If that's Honda's plan, it's a good one.
iYRe
18th April 2025, 09:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DXkX7gj44
Pretty cool interview with Marc here about life and stuff
Yeah Vinales has more 2025 bits I think
SaferRides
18th April 2025, 10:55
Yeah Vinales has more 2025 bits I think
Herve Poncharal has been very impressed with his attitude and the effort he is making to adjust to the KTM. Hopefully the result at Losail will not be a one off.
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pritch
19th April 2025, 08:52
Watched something interesting on that particular point, all conjecture of course, but it was argued that Toprak will be able to test the 2027 MotoGP bike while in its development phase next year and get a head start on the field with reduced aero and 850cc engines. If that's Honda's plan, it's a good one.
It makes sense. MotoGP contracted riders can't test outside the permitted test days. An uncontracted rider could go for it - until he signs.
SaferRides
19th April 2025, 11:15
It makes sense. MotoGP contracted riders can't test outside the permitted test days. An uncontracted rider could go for it - until he signs.But he would need to be contracted by Honda as a test rider unless it was just occasional rides, and I expect the other teams would have something to say about him becoming a full time rider in 2027!
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pritch
19th April 2025, 12:37
But he would need to be contracted by Honda as a test rider unless it was just occasional rides, and I expect the other teams would have something to say about him becoming a full time rider in 2027!
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Well the rumour is that he'll be a contracted Honda Superbikes rider in 2026 so that's only one additional line in the contract.
SaferRides
21st April 2025, 08:22
Well the rumour is that he'll be a contracted Honda Superbikes rider in 2026 so that's only one additional line in the contract.The contract is the easy part, it's complying with the testing rules that's tricky. Aprillia couldn't even put Jorge Martin on a MotoGP bike for a day before Qatar.
Time will tell, but it would be great to see what Toprak can do on a MotoGP bike.
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SaferRides
25th April 2025, 08:43
Jerez this weekend! Aleix Espargaro will be a Honda wildcard and testing an engine upgrade. Should be interesting to see how he goes.
Jorge Martin is out of hospital and should be home soon.
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sugilite
25th April 2025, 10:05
Herve Poncharal has been very impressed with his attitude and the effort he is making to adjust to the KTM. Hopefully the result at Losail will not be a one off.
I've suffered to many false dawns with Mav to believe anything will be different this time. He will maybe will do one more really good performance this year, and that will be about it - if he follows the last 6 years patterns. He is unbeatable on his day, the problem is that day comes no more than once or twice a year. I would be happy for him to prove otherwise.
onearmedbandit
25th April 2025, 11:01
I've suffered to many false dawns with Mav to believe anything will be different this time. He will maybe will do one more really good performance this year, and that will be about it - if he follows the last 6 years patterns. He is unbeatable on his day, the problem is that day comes no more than once or twice a year. I would be happy for him to prove otherwise.
100% agreed. I've kept the faith for years, the guy has undeniable talent as a racer, but something is holding him back from being able to deliver it consistently.
BMWST?
25th April 2025, 13:38
Jerez this weekend! Aleix Espargaro will be a Honda wildcard and testing an engine upgrade. Should be interesting to see how he goes.
Jorge Martin is out of hospital and should be home soon.
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Motogp interviwed him trackside He had some interesting things to say .He had heaps and heaps of material to test when he first joined Honda and they were able to put togther the bike they have now from that material.
SaferRides
25th April 2025, 13:51
Motogp interviwed him trackside He had some interesting things to say .He had heaps and heaps of material to test when he first joined Honda and they were able to put togther the bike they have now from that material.Yes, including stuff that had been tried and discarded! Honda did really well getting Aleix as a test rider.
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jato
27th April 2025, 11:14
Who doesn't like seeing an underdog on top? it was yippee and yeahah in this household... ... for one lap. come on give that guy the V4
as for our jack ...
SaferRides
27th April 2025, 22:14
Our Jack???
It is starting to become predictable, maybe someone can make a race of it on Sunday?
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jato
28th April 2025, 12:33
"our jack" - parents are from Dannevirke, apparently he has a kiwi passport
quite exciting race, esp the first few laps. Mav putting up an impressive effort - almost starting a trend?
iYRe
28th April 2025, 12:55
"our jack" - parents are from Dannevirke, apparently he has a kiwi passport
quite exciting race, esp the first few laps. Mav putting up an impressive effort - almost starting a trend?
In his most recent interview with Gypsy Tales he says he spent Xmas over here with his grand parents.
Well, big race was a bit interesting, FQ led for a bit, MM led for a bit till he bit the dust. Pecco is.. well.. screwed. Alex M is - I reckon, gonna be hard to beat this year. Mr Consistant. The scenes in the Gresini garage were amazing.
Reckless
28th April 2025, 13:31
Sprint was a bit ominus but the race this morning was really good.
Really pleased for AM he deserved a win, but it doesn't look to good for Pecco atm.
Rider of the day Fabio so good to see Yamaha up there again.
Being a Yahaha racer. Big weekend of racing.
Trackday Saturday was fine all day at Hampton :headbang: but sunday the Autumn classic was a washout never got to turn a wheel :nono:
Oil in the track during first group out then wait 2 hours to see if they could wash it away then it pissed down so they called it around lunchtime.
No complaints NZCMRR made all the right calls "Thats racing"
Only complaint was bloody Hampton shafting us again! Now charging an extra 50 bucks on top of your entry if you want to get a wet bike through scrutineering for a trackday FFS.
It's 3 mins inspection and one bloody sticker for a second bike, you can only ride one at a time.
They seem to be shafting us every bloody oppurtunity the can, I'd bet they dont even pay the inspection guys.
The poor bugger in front of me that abviously had his kids 300 wet bike paid an extra 50 bucks for a bike he was never going to use on the day.
Thanks for nothing Tony Quinn and Hampton Downs :Playnice: :mad:
and finally 10 points to TV3 the race was up and ready for viewing when I checked at 7:30am bit h sunday spring and the Main race.: banana:
jato
28th April 2025, 14:08
I hear you Reckless - its been a while since i've entered a race meeting but i keep hearing big dollar costs of racing lately... roll on the new track behind Tauranga that is looking good with costs aimed to encourage racing https://www.thunderridge.co.nz/
diesel pig
28th April 2025, 14:39
Finding out Jack Miller has a bit of Kiwi in him is making me feel weird. When you hear him speak on the grid he seconds like a Classic Ozzie.
onearmedbandit
28th April 2025, 15:00
Finding out Jack Miller has a bit of Kiwi in him is making me feel weird. When you hear him speak on the grid he seconds like a Classic Ozzie.
Born and bred Aussie so makes sense.
Reckless
28th April 2025, 21:18
I hear you Reckless - its been a while since i've entered a race meeting but i keep hearing big dollar costs of racing lately... roll on the new track behind Tauranga that is looking good with costs aimed to encourage racing https://www.thunderridge.co.nz/
I chat with Gary a little resource consent has been a pain.
I think they are aiming 2026
Have you seen this 3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYxrJ9_Oiw
SaferRides
28th April 2025, 22:40
I'm not sure why Marc didn't wait for the race to come to him, but I guess it's just not in his DNA. It is such a difficult track to overtake on the current MotoGP bikes, although Alex managed it. It helps having a quick bike!
Alex could be a serious contender if Marc keeps crashing every 2 or 3 races, but he needs to stop the banzai moves. He certainly has the speed.
Mav the fastest KTM by a long way!
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BMWST?
28th April 2025, 22:55
I'm not sure why Marc didn't wait for the race to come to him, but I guess it's just not in his DNA. It is such a difficult track to overtake on the current MotoGP bikes, although Alex managed it. It helps having a quick bike!
Alex could be a serious contender if Marc keeps crashing every 2 or 3 races, but he needs to stop the banzai moves. He certainly has the speed.
Mav the fastest KTM by a long way!
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my sentiments too but I think its a little more complex. Mark reckons he wasnt doing any thing over the top. Pecco was explaing that he loses confidence in the front when he is trying to overtake. Its the first time Mark has really been behind more than 1 bike. Was his crash related to what Peco says. I got the info re Marc from after the flag. I thinks pecos remark were also after the flag
SaferRides
29th April 2025, 07:09
my sentiments too but I think its a little more complex. Mark reckons he wasnt doing any thing over the top. Pecco was explaing that he loses confidence in the front when he is trying to overtake. Its the first time Mark has really been behind more than 1 bike. Was his crash related to what Peco says. I got the info re Marc from after the flag. I thinks pecos remark were also after the flagThere were a lot of crashes over the whole weekend, including riders who don't crash often, and mostly the front going suddenly. Half of the Ducatis crashed out of the race, and how often does that happen?
Maybe they just need a better front tyre. It would be nice to see racing for more than a lap at a time.
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Reckless
29th April 2025, 10:02
MM said in one interview I saw that he was cruising, waiting for his time.
He was completely unsure how he lost it and had to have a look at all the data with the engineers to try and get an answer.
AH well Happy for AM and to see Fabio have some sucess. Long season to go yet :)
iYRe
29th April 2025, 11:49
There were a lot of crashes over the whole weekend, including riders who don't crash often, and mostly the front going suddenly. Half of the Ducatis crashed out of the race, and how often does that happen?
Maybe they just need a better front tyre. It would be nice to see racing for more than a lap at a time.
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Pecco was saying that the front is vague.. and they suspect that's why MM fell too.
Interestingly AM's times were pretty much what Pecco did last year which suggests to me that Pecco isnt actually faster than Alex, and Alex isnt as fast as Marc.
Testing times were interesting... MM was .3 faster than next fastest and Pecco was 1.5s down. Probably not much to read into that though.
SaferRides
29th April 2025, 12:36
Pecco was saying that the front is vague.. and they suspect that's why MM fell too.
Interestingly AM's times were pretty much what Pecco did last year which suggests to me that Pecco isnt actually faster than Alex, and Alex isnt as fast as Marc.
Testing times were interesting... MM was .3 faster than next fastest and Pecco was 1.5s down. Probably not much to read into that though.Yes, my comment about Marc may have been unfair. It did appear from the replays that he came into the corner slightly wide and fast, but he clearly expected to be OK.
Ducati seem at a loss to help Pecco, and we're well into the season now. Mav has done well at 2 different tracks, but the KTM needs some upgrades to beat the Ducatis.
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BMWST?
29th April 2025, 18:46
Yes, my comment about Marc may have been unfair. It did appear from the replays that he came into the corner slightly wide and fast, but he clearly expected to be OK.
Ducati seem at a loss to help Pecco, and we're well into the season now. Mav has done well at 2 different tracks, but the KTM needs some upgrades to beat the Ducatis.
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Only one Ducati beat him at Quatar
SaferRides
30th April 2025, 00:43
Only one Ducati beat him at QuatarOn the track yes, but that's not what the results say. He was 4th on Sunday at Jerez.
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F5 Dave
30th April 2025, 14:11
Spaniards on Spanish tracks.
SaferRides
30th April 2025, 16:02
Maybe I was right about Marc's crash after all:
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1068792/1/marc-marquez-reflects-jerez-mistake-first-crash-left-corner
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SaferRides
30th April 2025, 21:10
If you use Motomundo, they are looking for donations to upgrade their server. Better protection against DDoS (Denial of Service) attacks is the main reason.
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dodgy forecast for le mans from the three weather sites i looked at - fine today then patchy sat and shite for sunday. whoose good in the wet? our jack if he stays on, Zarco n Fabio, mm of course...
Do they still do stunt displays etc like way back? there was a guy at le mans when i was last there that put on a hellava show - some of it real high speed with a young lady all over the bike... quite scary to watch, but not as scary as Sarron having a 4th gear front wheel high side at T1
Le Mans... All time lap record to MM.. Pecco is not too far behind, but Fabio is even closer. The sprint should be interesting..
BMWST?
11th May 2025, 19:35
Le Mans... All time lap record to MM.. Pecco is not too far behind, but Fabio is even closer. The sprint should be interesting..
it was interesting but really only in who turned up in third(and how he managed that)
SaferRides
12th May 2025, 03:43
it was interesting but really only in who turned up in third(and how he managed that)Overtake of the season! Fabio just did not see it coming.
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Well that was a turn up for the books.. CHAOS!!!!
WD Zarco.
sugilite
12th May 2025, 12:18
Well, that would have to be one of the most confusing, crazy and unpredictable motogp races I have ever seen!
Well done Zarco, My heart was in my mouth for those final 10 laps or so, I was with his team silently screaming at him to slow down, and he just kept going faster and faster! He deserved that and what a fantastic life long memory for him!
MM did really well to keep his all or nothing tendencies in check and bring it home in 2nd. That new bloke Aldeguer is proving to be very impressive and a leading light for the future.
Poor Bagnaia, seeing an image of him looking super depressed in the pits was hard to see. I hope he finds what he is looking for really soon.
I know I have put the boot into Maverick for years now and frankly I thought he was ill suited to the ktm, but I was wrong.
He is in the best vein of form I have seen from him for many years, and he is being consistent with it. Well done Maverick for issuing me with a hearty fuck you and you don't know what you are taking about :laugh:
Reckless
12th May 2025, 14:03
Well, that would have to be one of the most confusing, crazy and unpredictable motogp races I have ever seen!
Well done Zarco, My heart was in my mouth for those final 10 laps or so, I was with his team silently screaming at him to slow down, and he just kept going faster and faster! He deserved that and what a fantastic life long memory for him!
MM did really well to keep his all or nothing tendencies in check and bring it home in 2nd. That new bloke Aldeguer is proving to be very impressive and a leading light for the future.
Poor Bagnaia, seeing an image of him looking super depressed in the pits was hard to see. I hope he finds what he is looking for really soon.
I know I have put the boot into Maverick for years now and frankly I thought he was ill suited to the ktm, but I was wrong.
He is in the best vein of form I have seen from him for many years, and he is being consistent with it. Well done Maverick for issuing me with a hearty fuck you and you don't know what you are taking about :laugh:
Bang on Sugilite saved me typing it :)
Great race I bet we wont see a rider reaction and especially a crowd like that for a Loooong time, damn near had a tear in my eye :shutup:
BMWST?
12th May 2025, 15:20
Bang on Sugilite saved me typing it :)
Great race I bet we wont see a rider reaction and especially a crowd like that for a Loooong time, damn near had a tear in my eye :shutup:
i think most would agree that the french national anthem is a real soul stirrer even id you aren't French!
i think most would agree that the french national anthem is a real soul stirrer even id you aren't French!
I am part French!
pritch
12th May 2025, 16:30
About the most confusing start ever but a worthy winner. Now for a vinho tinto before dinner.
some comments from Marc:
🗣️ “The only small mistake I did was during the second long lap,” he confessed. “I almost hit Fermin [Aldeguer] because I wasn’t sure if I was meant to serve it then.”
🗣️ “Everything else was exactly how I planned,” he said, emphasizing how his Jerez crash taught him restraint: “Without that mistake in Jerez, maybe today there would’ve been another one.”
🗣️ “He (Zarco) was faster than us. I pushed for two laps but saw I was only a few tenths quicker. Eight seconds [gap] is too much, so I said: let’s bring home the 20 points.”
diesel pig
13th May 2025, 10:24
some comments from Marc:
Interesting, Marc saying he decided to bring it home in second, As I was watching the race the thought crossed my mind but it was blocked out by the idea of him slowing down! Madness! He always goes for the Win! Win or Bin MM!
Is he calming down after a decade and a half? Interesting.
Interesting, Marc saying he decided to bring it home in second, As I was watching the race the thought crossed my mind but it was blocked out by the idea of him slowing down! Madness! He always goes for the Win! Win or Bin MM!
Is he calming down after a decade and a half? Interesting.
Maybe his goals have moved from winning now, to winning in the end, if you know what I mean. He started doing it on the Honda at the end, and even last year. He's always been a smart racer, maybe he has just got wiser too.
Reckless
13th May 2025, 11:41
Interesting, Marc saying he decided to bring it home in second, As I was watching the race the thought crossed my mind but it was blocked out by the idea of him slowing down! Madness! He always goes for the Win! Win or Bin MM!
Is he calming down after a decade and a half? Interesting.
Conditions would have played a large factor in that.
He did say he pushed for a couple of laps but 8 seconds was too much risk.
Plus it depends when the decision was made. After Pecco went down or after his brother went down :Oops:.
Guaranteed championship points while his rivals got none :2thumbsup
pete376403
13th May 2025, 13:07
I recall reading how Croz said a safe second is worth more than a gloriously fought DNF
BMWST?
13th May 2025, 18:17
He has learnt his lessons from Austin and Jerez,and said as much. He actually said that if he hadnt crashed at Jerez there may be an 80 percent chance of crashing here!
SaferRides
13th May 2025, 22:56
Maybe his goals have moved from winning now, to winning in the end, if you know what I mean. He started doing it on the Honda at the end, and even last year. He's always been a smart racer, maybe he has just got wiser too.LoL, something tells me it won't last!
I was so pleased for Zarco when he finally won in Phillip Island, one of his best tracks. But the motorcycle gods really turned it on at Le Mans.
Mat Oxley made the interesting comment that the GP24 is the best bike on the grid. Alex was way faster than his brother at the start of the race, so that appears true in the wet.
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sugilite
14th May 2025, 08:38
I saw an article on crash regarding an interview with MM. Marc said he was developing the bike while Peco was trying to get feeling back by reverting back to the GP24 specs. Polite slight against his struggling team mate aside, I could not but help think that is where Honda fell into a trap that they are only now years later beginning to escape. That being developing a bike using Marc's feedback into a bike only he can ride. I'm sure Ducatti are aware, but yeah.......
I saw an article on crash regarding an interview with MM. Marc said he was developing the bike while Peco was trying to get feeling back by reverting back to the GP24 specs. Polite slight against his struggling team mate aside, I could not but help think that is where Honda fell into a trap that they are only now years later beginning to escape. That being developing a bike using Marc's feedback into a bike only he can ride. I'm sure Ducatti are aware, but yeah.......
I thought Ducati's rule was develop a bike anyone can ride, then tweak each one for its rider so they get the feeling they want.
I suspect the realisation Pecco is slowly coming to is that while he is fast, he is not MM fast, or even FQ fast. I reckon you put fabio quartararo on Pecco's bike and him and MM would be having a good old battle every week. They're saying that the gp24 guys are riding the exact same speed as Pecco was last year, which seems to reflect that sentiment.
Reckless
14th May 2025, 12:09
Replying to the last two comments.
Good point about the GP24 :)
I think Ducati do have that bike that suits most riders, even with the GP25 look at Fermin Aldeguer for example
BUT MM is developing his bike to his way of riding, even his brother can't match him, nobody can consistently.
Hence the different directions because hopefully Pecco knows chasing an MM set up doesn't work for anyone else.
Proven by the Honda History.
Love him or Hate him he is the best rider, best racer, most talented, most intelligent racer we have ever seen. :crazy:
The movie they make about him is going to be a must watch LOL.
I just wish the bikes loose some of their aero and ride assist so riders can ride around the issues so set up is no longer the overriding factor.
There is a lot of damn good riders out there realy struggling atm.
Replying to the last two comments.
Good point about the GP24 :)
I think Ducati do have that bike that suits most riders, even with the GP25 look at Fermin Aldeguer for example
BUT MM is developing his bike to his way of riding, even his brother can't match him, nobody can consistently.
Hence the different directions because hopefully Pecco knows chasing an MM set up doesn't work for anyone else.
Proven by the Honda History.
Love him or Hate him he is the best rider, best racer, most talented, most intelligent racer we have ever seen. :crazy:
The movie they make about him is going to be a must watch LOL.
I just wish the bikes loose some of their aero and ride assist so riders can ride around the issues so set up is no longer the overriding factor.
There is a lot of damn good riders out there realy struggling atm.
I agree totally. There is the Marc Marquez: Trophy Hunter doco which is worth a look if you havent seen it.
If we get more races like sunday it should be an interesting time for the next few months
SaferRides
14th May 2025, 14:43
I thought Ducati's rule was develop a bike anyone can ride, then tweak each one for its rider so they get the feeling they want.
I suspect the realisation Pecco is slowly coming to is that while he is fast, he is not MM fast, or even FQ fast. I reckon you put fabio quartararo on Pecco's bike and him and MM would be having a good old battle every week. They're saying that the gp24 guys are riding the exact same speed as Pecco was last year, which seems to reflect that sentiment.Yes, I thought Pecco's comment about Marc being fast on a tractor was telling, and also the point that Marc hasn't ridden the GP24.
Marc was fast on the GP25 from Day 1. I don't think much development to suit him has gone on, but Pecco has been focused on regaining his "feel", and Digia has been recovering from injury, so they've probably only had consistent feedback from Marc so far.
My guess is the GP25 as debuted for the tests was a dog and the modified bike they are racing is still not great, although it may have a slight power advantage. But hopefully Ducati can give Pecco something he can go fast on, otherwise it could be a long season.
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But hopefully Ducati can give Pecco something he can go fast on, otherwise it could be a long season.
Yep, I suspect its gonna be a long reason for Pecco regardless.. the Marquez brothers, if they finish 1&2 at the end of the season will create some kinda history that will likely never be repeated, ever. That will be something to witness I guess!
SaferRides
15th May 2025, 09:16
From the GPOne website - couldn't cut and paste so here's a screenshot. He makes a good point, starting the race with riders on slicks and wets was not clever, and led to the crash that took out Pecco and nearly Zarco.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250514/4fb394c6182091c172f7adb6af41caa4.jpg
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wow, that's right, it's a reverse of the Thailand race, that never occurred to me.
Reckless
15th May 2025, 12:04
I think race direction where letting the new rules play out and setting a line in the sand " this is the future"
Because 10 running off the grid was a joke. Now riders have to stand by their decisions even if it is a weather lottery.
They bought it on themselves a bit. I must say it was interesting.
Peccos decision not to stay out on wets lost him time, Miller stayed out and fell off on wets, everyone the chose slicks was wrong, Zarco stayed out and won.
Race direction is Damned if they do or don't.
F5 Dave
15th May 2025, 13:11
Oh good grief
http://https://m.gpone.com/en/2025/05/14/motogp/martin-to-hrc-and-espargaro-affirms-honda-will-fight-for-the-world-championship-in
SaferRides
15th May 2025, 22:17
Oh good grief
http://https://m.gpone.com/en/2025/05/14/motogp/martin-to-hrc-and-espargaro-affirms-honda-will-fight-for-the-world-championship-inLink doesn't work for me?
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sugilite
15th May 2025, 22:20
take the first http:// out
I have been seeing this all week, dirty pool from Martin if this is true IMO :oi-grr:
SaferRides
15th May 2025, 22:21
Peccos decision not to stay out on wets lost him time
The gear shift on his bike was damaged in his crash so he had to swap bikes, then change again when it really started to rain. He could have been near the front otherwise.
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SaferRides
15th May 2025, 22:27
take the first http:// out
I have been seeing this all week, dirty pool from Martin if this is true IMO :oi-grr:It's true apparently. There are photos of him in civvies at Le Mans, and the source is legit apparently.
There aren't many options available next year. Honda already have 6 riders if the rumours of who they are going to sign are true!
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Crutchlow on MM v PB:
"Pecco is a fast rider, and headstrong, but he isnt as headstrong as Marc, and he isnt as fast as Marc... I rode for 6 years with Marc, I know how it feels, but he can be beaten and if you dont think that he can be beaten you wont beat him"
Paraphrased. Interesting interview with him on Paddock Pass YT
That was a pretty entertaining race this morning... M Bezz smoking thru the pack on that Aprillia makes me wish Martin was still in the mix. the commentators saying how good the yamaha is then it promptly gets smoked by everything out there - worn tyres or not it still looks down on power if there is a ducati anywhere about... roll on tonight though!
That was a pretty entertaining race this morning... M Bezz smoking thru the pack on that Aprillia makes me wish Martin was still in the mix. the commentators saying how good the yamaha is then it promptly gets smoked by everything out there - worn tyres or not it still looks down on power if there is a ducati anywhere about... roll on tonight though!
Pecco going backwards like he's standing still. Fabio looked like he was going to take him.. miller in 9th was decent too. How good is Zarco? Think he was on the vino before hand or something..
SPman
26th May 2025, 03:40
Interesting race all round. Got to feel for Quatararo ... Mark can be beaten. Would have been a .non Ducati podium .....
Interesting race all round. Got to feel for Quatararo ... Mark can be beaten. Would have been a .non Ducati podium .....
wait till you get to the main race heh.. much much goings on there.
BMWST?
26th May 2025, 15:04
I wonder what the factor is that all the Ducatis were struggling. Too cold? Have they changed something for MM lately .He has a new chassis doesnt he? Zarco is amazing .He seems so laid back that even his talk about maybe winning is sorta whimsical
I wonder what the factor is that all the Ducatis were struggling. Too cold? Have they changed something for MM lately .He has a new chassis doesnt he? Zarco is amazing .He seems so laid back that even his talk about maybe winning is sorta whimsical
He said he had a hard time finding the feeling here at silverstone. He also said that if you try 3-4 setups its not the bike, its the rider, and so he said "I have to change my style, because it is me, not the bike"
"Today we are super lucky. I did a mistake and for that reason I am angry. It is true we finish third, it is true that we finish ahead of our main competitor for the championship but I am angry with myself. Because I did a mistake on turn eleven. I don know why. On the first lap I was super calm, in the next lap I say I will take more risk but when I try to take more risk arrive a massive wind and push me out and I lost the front. So yeah, I was super lucky with the red flag and the restart of the race gave me another opportunity but it's a another mistake. We finish third, but it is our worst Sunday so I am happy with the result. But not happy with the feeling." - Marc Marquez (British GP 2025 - Full Distance Race)
sugilite
26th May 2025, 17:33
Wow, fantastic race, even if it was a soul destroyer for Quatararo. I'm confident he would of had that race win in the bag otherwise.
Clearly with silverstone coming up with 10 different winners over the last decade, the track has unique challenges that in this case, bamboozled the ducatis. I'm sure normal ducati cup will resume for the next race.
Having said that, it sure was good to see all the other brands having a field day - well except for KTM.
And as for poor old Pecco, MM has destroyed this guys confidence. I read heaps of reports saying this would happen, and I thought naaaah, but here we are!
https://cdn.iwanbanaran.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/peccoxx-1-741x486.webp
And as mentioned above, Zarco is being awesome week in week out. He is 5th overall in the championship, with the next honda being waaaay down in 13th (Marini).
Well done to Bezzecchi for the race win. Not sure we see another from him this year, but he took his chance brilliantly :yes:
You nailed it..
The Marquez brothers surely got lucky. ZArco was doing stuff on that bike... it was all over the place. Amazing really
F5 Dave
28th May 2025, 09:29
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If for example Fabio, managed his desperate attempt to unlock his frozen rear, and then carried on not daring to engage it again; Would he certainly have been reeled in by Bez et all?
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If for example Fabio, managed his desperate attempt to unlock his frozen rear, and then carried on not daring to engage it again; Would he certainly have been reeled in by Bez et all?
From what I understad, alot. A few hundreds of a sec every lap, I think I heard on one of the pod casts
F5 Dave
28th May 2025, 13:03
Intending to ask as Oxley Bom are doing a question thing on patreon for thier next cast.
He was likely to retain his lead with a faster Bez behind him possibly responding if he started catching too fast vs carefully managing his tyres vs gap he could afford to lose several tenths per lap. But with the device broken (but in the up position) would that have changed the outcome from win, to 2nd, or further back?
diesel pig
28th May 2025, 15:22
[QUOTE=sugilite;1131236951]And as for poor old Pecco, MM has destroyed this guys confidence. I read heaps of reports saying this would happen, and I thought naaaah, but here we are!
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I have not read those reports myself. Are they saying MM is doing it on purpose? or MM being MM is doing it?
[QUOTE=sugilite;1131236951]And as for poor old Pecco, MM has destroyed this guys confidence. I read heaps of reports saying this would happen, and I thought naaaah, but here we are!
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I have not read those reports myself. Are they saying MM is doing on purpose? or MM being MM is doing it?
I think it is MM's ability to ride around problems, where Pecco needs the bike to be how he wants it.
If the bike was performing like it should I think Pecco would think he can still beat MM, but he cant ride it like MM can. Interestingly MM was having the same feeling issue Pecco was, so there is definitely some issue.
F5 Dave
28th May 2025, 20:07
If the 24.9 is the same frame and engine (they rejected the 25 enginefor example), surely it isn't hard to make it the same?
Must be more complicated. What would happen if Pecco and Alex Swapped Dooclatteries?
If the 24.9 is the same frame and engine (they rejected the 25 enginefor example), surely it isn't hard to make it the same?
Must be more complicated. What would happen if Pecco and Alex Swapped Dooclatteries?
Pecco would be doing the same as Alex... they said Alex is going as fast as Pecco last year
SaferRides
28th May 2025, 22:31
If the 24.9 is the same frame and engine (they rejected the 25 enginefor example), surely it isn't hard to make it the same?
Must be more complicated. What would happen if Pecco and Alex Swapped Dooclatteries?It is the engine that's the issue. Factories without concessions have to homologate a certain number of engines per rider for the season. The GP25 engine mounts are different to the GP24, so Ducati cannot use a GP24 chassis for Digia, Marc or Pecco.
It seems that Marc has a similar problem with front end feel to Pecco, but can ride around it to some extent but not always. If he keeps crashing on Sundays at this rate, it could be an interesting season.
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F5 Dave
29th May 2025, 07:12
Um. Didn't they reject the 25 engine in testing and keep with the old engine? That was the palaver as it is locked in for two years now.
24.9 was face saving as it was more like 24.3. At least explained back then. What is the truth I wonder?
Pretty cool interview with the Marquez brothers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDhp5iy0q_A
SaferRides
29th May 2025, 13:41
Um. Didn't they reject the 25 engine in testing and keep with the old engine? That was the palaver as it is locked in for two years now.
24.9 was face saving as it was more like 24.3. At least explained back then. What is the truth I wonder?Not completely, it was the engine braking that the riders did not like. More info here: https://www.the-race.com/motogp/the-gp25-mystery-what-is-actually-different-about-the-new-ducatis/
I'm sure Ducati have made serious efforts to improve the GP25 during the season, but after 7 races the 24 still appears faster. The Motorland race could be really interesting.
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BMWST?
29th May 2025, 16:18
Not completely, it was the engine braking that the riders did not like. More info here: https://www.the-race.com/motogp/the-gp25-mystery-what-is-actually-different-about-the-new-ducatis/
I'm sure Ducati have made serious efforts to improve the GP25 during the season, but after 7 races the 24 still appears faster. The Motorland race could be really interesting.
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I am sure that normal MM service will resume at Aragon
SaferRides
29th May 2025, 17:01
I am sure that normal MM service will resume at AragonVery likely!
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F5 Dave
29th May 2025, 18:07
Not completely, it was the engine braking that the riders did not like. More info here: https://www.the-race.com/motogp/the-gp25-mystery-what-is-actually-different-about-the-new-ducatis/
I'm sure Ducati have made serious efforts to improve the GP25 during the season, but after 7 races the 24 still appears faster. The Motorland race could be really interesting.
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Thanks for posting that. I guess we won't really find out for a few years.
sugilite
30th May 2025, 03:49
Looks like Martin is going to do it.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1071697/1/jorge-martin-breaks-silence-confirms-intentions-leave-aprilia-motogp-team
If I were a team owner, a rider with a history of making hot head decisions, had the follow through of a politician on fulfilling a promise combined with the loyalty of a horny tom cat would NOT be on my shopping list.
SaferRides
30th May 2025, 04:57
Looks like Martin is going to do it.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1071697/1/jorge-martin-breaks-silence-confirms-intentions-leave-aprilia-motogp-team
If I were a team owner, a rider with a history of making hot head decisions, had the follow through of a politician on fulfilling a promise combined with the loyalty of a horny tom cat would NOT be on my shopping list.Also, it's not the first time. He signed for KTM during 2020 and invoked a similar clause to get out of the contract before the 2021 season started.
Word is KTM are unlikely to continue in MotoGP. Acosta is unhappy there anyway and will also be looking for a ride. So Honda will have options if they decide to replace Marini.
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SaferRides
30th May 2025, 05:13
A further complication is that Luca Marini has been seriously injured testing for Honda for the Suzuka 8 hour.
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pritch
31st May 2025, 19:31
It seems that it's official then...
F5 Dave
31st May 2025, 21:09
A year early. Hopefully he doesn't get his confidence destroyed by the michi tyres before resuming service on perelli
SaferRides
2nd June 2025, 06:41
Looks like it's Pramac so Olivera or Miller will be looking for a ride next year.
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Looks like it's Pramac so Olivera or Miller will be looking for a ride next year.
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Hopefully not Miller, he's been doing better this season
Dadpole
2nd June 2025, 09:58
Looks like Martin is going to do it.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1071697/1/jorge-martin-breaks-silence-confirms-intentions-leave-aprilia-motogp-team
If I were a team owner, a rider with a history of making hot head decisions, had the follow through of a politician on fulfilling a promise combined with the loyalty of a horny tom cat would NOT be on my shopping list.
Martin is exercising the clause in the contract they both signed. With Aprilia not open to re-negotiation, he had to sign for another year on an unknown bike or walk. If Aprilia do their usual end-of-season shambles then it may be a wise move.
SaferRides
4th June 2025, 08:15
Well, he turned up at the Aprillia owners meet at Misano and was well received. He even rode a couple of bikes - had to go and buy leathers and a helmet!
I expect he had concerns after his ride at Losail and wanted another chance on the bike before committing to 2026. It's unfortunate that it couldn't be settled behind closed doors, as issues like this take on a life of their own in the media.
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sugilite
7th June 2025, 05:23
Cormac Buchanan 13th fastest in Moto 3 free practice, great job!
BMWST?
7th June 2025, 15:19
Just been watching practise. A one point in the session MM was catching up to Pecco.You could see he was faster. In one corner he went from 5 or 6 bike lengths behind to 5 or 6 bike lengths ahead. I dont know if Pecco had a moment or not. But for the rest of the session Pecco was losing 1/2 a second in the second sector alone. Mind you so were most everyone else
3 KTMs in the top 10 at this stage (3 5 and 7th).FQ not happy at all
MM, AM, and Vinales top 3 end of practice today. Pecco for to 4th, but ended up 6 or lower. Fabian looked like he was riding on ice..
Reckless
8th June 2025, 21:03
No Spoiler
JM
Apparently listening to the race braodcasters JM just wanted an extension to evulate the bike for 5 races like in his initial contract because he couldnt because of injury and and got a no!
So he said bugger you I'm leaving.
Great Sprint Race in the minor places Bring on the GP :)
SPman
8th June 2025, 23:02
Faaaark! What a Moto 2 finish!
Oh well, on to the Marquez brothers show ... where the fuck did Alex gain all his speed this year?
Reckless
9th June 2025, 10:40
You gotta think MM is the goat: drool:
For us racers in the group, its pure mastery of all aspects of racing! It is his sorta Track but Fuck me how does he do it :brick:
Fermin Algear that boy is exciting! What I really like about him is he manages to do it clean. One to watch.:yes:
Still gotta catch Moto2 and to see how our Kiwi boy is doing on Moto 3 :)
diesel pig
9th June 2025, 12:13
Still gotta catch Moto2 and to see how our Kiwi boy is doing on Moto 3 :)
He is not embarrassing himself. I think he can be onto bigger things in time.
iYRe
10th June 2025, 15:04
Just checking, as I dont know him, but is Rhys Holmes a kiwi?
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19L51Rr4Yx/
His accent seems Australasian...
sugilite
11th June 2025, 07:28
Yep, he is most definitely a kiwi.
iYRe
11th June 2025, 07:30
Yep, he is most definitely a kiwi.
Well that's just bloody splendid!
iYRe
11th June 2025, 09:19
Toprak confirmed for Yamaha next year
edit: likely Olivera is gone
sugilite
11th June 2025, 09:42
Toprak confirmed for Yamaha next year
edit: likely Olivera is gone
Great move Yamaha! Toprak is amazing, hopefully his skills will cross over to motogp without too much hassle. :yes:
iYRe
11th June 2025, 09:45
Great move Yamaha! Toprak is amazing, hopefully his skills will cross over to motogp without too much hassle. :yes:
He's gonna be a rookie... which is quite ironic considering his reputation. Next year could see him, pecco, MM, AM, FQ all battling for the front
SaferRides
11th June 2025, 09:47
Bulega is moving to MotoGP in 2027 after a final year in Superbikes when he will also test the 850 for Ducati.
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sugilite
11th June 2025, 16:06
Bulega is moving to MotoGP in 2027 after a final year in Superbikes when he will also test the 850 for Ducati.
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That is two top superbike stars in a week! I'm struggling to think who was the last big name to go across from SB to Motogp, Spies?????
F5 Dave
11th June 2025, 17:29
... where the fuck did Alex gain all his speed this year?
Quite easy. He's on the best bike. There are six Dooclatteries, Three of them are 25s. All Three 25 riders are not as fast as they could be, just Marc rides around the problem like he did on Honda.
So that leaves Fermin the rookie, and man he's up the front often, Morbidelli, again often near the front but he's good, not special.
Alex is the best of them. He's always been good. Just not Alien like his brother. The 23 was hard to ride with the 24 tyre which suppressed all the above guys who were on them plus Bez and Digi.
Marc was the only one who could ride around it, but the gap to the 24 on 24 tyre which Martin and Peco had was still a bit much.
On 22 tyres the above all went better than with the wrong combination. 24 bike on 24 tyre is the best in 2025 (and 24).
So Alex is showing his true potential at last.
I suspect if you put Peco back on a clone he would be faster than Alex but not by much.
Marc would just be annoyingly quicker still.
What fun.
BMWST?
11th June 2025, 22:48
Quite easy. He's on the best bike. There are six Dooclatteries, Three of them are 25s. All Three 25 riders are not as fast as they could be, just Marc rides around the problem like he did on Honda.
So that leaves Fermin the rookie, and man he's up the front often, Morbidelli, again often near the front but he's good, not special.
Alex is the best of them. He's always been good. Just not Alien like his brother. The 23 was hard to ride with the 24 tyre which suppressed all the above guys who were on them plus Bez and Digi.
Marc was the only one who could ride around it, but the gap to the 24 on 24 tyre which Martin and Peco had was still a bit much.
On 22 tyres the above all went better than with the wrong combination. 24 bike on 24 tyre is the best in 2025 (and 24).
So Alex is showing his true potential at last.
I suspect if you put Peco back on a clone he would be faster than Alex but not by much.
Marc would just be annoyingly quicker still.
What fun.
so is Digi suffering the same as Pecco? We dont hear much about him at all
SaferRides
12th June 2025, 03:46
Bulega is moving to MotoGP in 2027 after a final year in Superbikes when he will also test the 850 for Ducati.
Sent from my SM-S938B using TapatalkMight have jumped the gun on this as Ducati has not said that he will ride in MotoGP in 2027. But it's difficult to why they would want him as a test rider if that's not the plan.
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SaferRides
12th June 2025, 03:58
so is Digi suffering the same as Pecco? We dont hear much about him at allYes, he's having the same problem with front feel. It's just that he's not a double world champion in a factory team so it's not a big story.
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F5 Dave
12th June 2025, 07:19
Apparently in testing the bigger 355 discs Peco has found to have regained a lot of his confidence. Digi says it made no difference and Marc is saying the opposite of whatever Peco says. Apparently that's the evil Marc trying to confuse things.
iYRe
12th June 2025, 09:22
Apparently in testing the bigger 355 discs Peco has found to have regained a lot of his confidence. Digi says it made no difference and Marc is saying the opposite of whatever Peco says. Apparently that's the evil Marc trying to confuse things.
Marc does like to play mind games, saying things like, "I keep changing the bike but eventually he realised it is not the bike, it is the rider so you have to change yourself" hehe.
Personally I'd just like to see Marc, Fabio and Alex battling it out for the podium, with Miller in 4th. That would make me happy. I think it is pretty clear that at the moment Marc and Fabio are the 2 best riders - at least to me anyway.
They were saying that Marc, on left handers somehow does less meters than anyone else, and that he has realised you can go faster with a worn rear on the Duc, because it doesn't push the front so much - which is why he is faster at the end than the beginning.
It's all witchcraft to me, I can barely get around a corner at speed on a good day.
F5 Dave
12th June 2025, 12:50
Yamaha clearly share your conviction. Bagnaia is no slouch, he was very nearly 3x world champion. Martin of course and maybe Pedro if ktm can ever suit the tyres.like 2027 if they were about.
So Spain it apparently a low grip track. They went testing the next day and everyone went quicker. The MotoGP bikes had laid down a layer of Michelin rubber so next day the Michelin tyres hooked up better. Apparently.
Maverick won King of Testing as fastest.
No real prizes for that championship. :innocent:
BMWST?
12th June 2025, 13:16
Yamaha clearly share your conviction. Bagnaia is no slouch, he was very nearly 3x world champion. Martin of course and maybe Pedro if ktm can ever suit the tyres.like 2027 if they were about.
So Spain it apparently a low grip track. They went testing the next day and everyone went quicker. The MotoGP bikes had laid down a layer of Michelin rubber so next day the Michelin tyres hooked up better. Apparently.
Maverick won King of Testing as fastest.
No real prizes for that championship. :innocent:
You right about MV but it again illustrates the Maverick Conundrum. He can be FAST
sugilite
12th June 2025, 13:20
You right about MV but it again illustrates the Maverick Conundrum. He can be FAST
Simply tell Mav each race is a test day - Boom WORLD CHAMP!
Don't know why none of the teams had thought of that :innocent:
F5 Dave
12th June 2025, 15:35
He's an enigma. Wrapped up in a mystery. Tied up in a conundrum. :scratch:
sugilite
12th June 2025, 19:22
I feel KTM's biggest disappointment would have to be Bastianini. He sure is whining a lot.
"Nothing KTM brings fits my needs"
https://www.gpone.com/en/2025/06/10/motogp/bastianini-nothing-ktm-brings-fits-my-needs.html
Maybe work harder on adapting his riding style to a bike that has 3 other riders well in front of him - rather than wait for KTM to build a miracle part?
SaferRides
12th June 2025, 21:35
Marc does like to play mind games, saying things like, "I keep changing the bike but eventually he realised it is not the bike, it is the rider so you have to change yourself" hehe.
Personally I'd just like to see Marc, Fabio and Alex battling it out for the podium, with Miller in 4th. That would make me happy. I think it is pretty clear that at the moment Marc and Fabio are the 2 best riders - at least to me anyway.
They were saying that Marc, on left handers somehow does less meters than anyone else, and that he has realised you can go faster with a worn rear on the Duc, because it doesn't push the front so much - which is why he is faster at the end than the beginning.
It's all witchcraft to me, I can barely get around a corner at speed on a good day.There were other riders who did their fastest laps at the end of the race, including Bez. No one got close to Marc's 1:45.7 though.
Can't wait for Mugello. Can Pecco match the Marquez show? Will Bez qualify somewhere he can win from? And how will the Yamahas go there?
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BMWST?
12th June 2025, 23:12
The Ducatis are too good. If conditions are anything like normal they will continue to lock out the podium. Only odd conditions let the others win. And as MM gets his head around it he will be faster in aid conditions too.
I am looking forward to see how Aldegeur develops
sugilite
16th June 2025, 14:05
A little somthing to watch until the next race. This is the International "R3 Cup".
Watch the last lap from around the 23.20 mark. :gob:
Apparently the rider with the surname of Turner is according to the commentators a Japanese/Kiwi rider! They podiumed!!!!
https://youtu.be/_wPpFrND5HQ?t=1407
iYRe
16th June 2025, 14:13
holy heck, thats just madness
iYRe
18th June 2025, 14:52
4 races in 5 weeks... Mugello next, can MM continue his winning ways or will Pecco's big brakes rain on his parade?
I have a sneaking suspicion that in a 1v1 in race mode, on similar bikes, MM is going to win. Alex of course, might throw a spanner in both their works.
Might be a quite exciting weekend.
BMWST?
18th June 2025, 20:11
4 races in 5 weeks... Mugello next, can MM continue his winning ways or will Pecco's big brakes rain on his parade?
I have a sneaking suspicion that in a 1v1 in race mode, on similar bikes, MM is going to win. Alex of course, might throw a spanner in both their works.
Might be a quite exciting weekend.
be interesting. Pecco has regained some confidence but will he be able to withstand the sort of attack MM put on JM at Aussie last year, or similar. If Alex is up there too the battle may be there rather than MM and PB
pritch
18th June 2025, 21:26
Toprak says he is going to MotoGP to beat Marquez. Perhaps he should let his riding do the talking. Ducati say, "Let's see if he can back it up."
BMWST?
18th June 2025, 22:54
Toprak says he is going to MotoGP to beat Marquez. Perhaps he should let his riding do the talking. Ducati say, "Let's see if he can back it up."
thats the sort of talk to get passed and repassed about 20 times in one race,never happens on purpose of course.
Reckless
23rd June 2025, 16:14
Italy
Well that sent a message to MM's opposition on a track he is supposedly not good on
I think he is proving he is the only Alien in the group at present
They tried to take it to him in the first 6 laps and bloody aewsome they were :woohoo:
But he menaged himself and the bike to perfection. :2guns:
What else can you say :innocent: I dont see it as boring all I feel is total respect for a master at this craft. :scooter:
iYRe
23rd June 2025, 17:37
Italy
Well that sent a message to MM's opposition on a track he is supposedly not good on
I think he is proving he is the only Alien in the group at present
They tried to take it to him in the first 6 laps and bloody aewsome they were :woohoo:
But he menaged himself and the bike to perfection. :2guns:
What else can you say :innocent: I dont see it as boring all I feel is total respect for a master at this craft. :scooter:
He's not only an alien but he's a smart racer. Remember when he was winning on honda, often times he would follow, observe, like a killer whale hunting its prey.. then poof, attack.
He's just got even wiser and more canny as he has got older lol. Its mind boggling how he can do that at 350kmh
F5 Dave
25th June 2025, 07:23
The 'other' alien needs his V four to arrive fully competitive (good luck) to see if he could be up there.
iYRe
25th June 2025, 07:30
The 'other' alien needs his V four to arrive fully competitive (good luck) to see if he could be up there.
MIller seems to think that the v4 isnt faster, although perhaps it is on some of the tracks where the inline is much slower, like last weekend
F5 Dave
26th June 2025, 16:27
You'd think if Yamaha had employed, say Gigis right hand man, they would be able to make enough of a Dooclattery clone to leapfrog them to the playing field.
Oh. Right. They did.
Hurry up about it boys.
BMWST?
26th June 2025, 17:26
The v4 wont be a magic bullet for Yamaha. Its a whole new bike .Any traits that are agreeable on the Yammie now will not automatically carry over the the V4. I think next year the v4 M1 is just going to be a test bed for the 850 v4
pritch
27th June 2025, 11:26
I think he is proving he is the only Alien in the group at present
Acosta is "special" and likely has the ability but he needs the bike.
roogazza
27th June 2025, 11:54
Acosta is "special" and likely has the ability but he needs the bike.
Yes pritch there are a couple of Alien level riders . I miss the Rossi era and the Aliens at that time.
I still wonder if Miller and a few others like Vinales will ever raise their game. :rolleyes:
SaferRides
27th June 2025, 13:41
Yes pritch there are a couple of Alien level riders . I miss the Rossi era and the Aliens at that time.
I still wonder if Miller and a few others like Vinales will ever raise their game. :rolleyes:Vinales has taken to the KTM like the proverbial. It does make you wonder where Acosta sits in comparison.
The real issue is that you need to be on a Ducati to have any chance of winning the championship, and 2026 will most likely be more of the same.
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release_the_bees
27th June 2025, 14:06
A little somthing to watch until the next race. This is the International "R3 Cup".
Watch the last lap from around the 23.20 mark. :gob:
Apparently the rider with the surname of Turner is according to the commentators a Japanese/Kiwi rider! They podiumed!!!!
https://youtu.be/_wPpFrND5HQ?t=1407
As someone that has an R3 as a trackday bike, that was a bloody good watch.
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BMWST?
27th June 2025, 15:41
I think MV is an alien,but he is alien off the bike too.
F5 Dave
27th June 2025, 15:42
Yes pritch there are a couple of Alien level riders . I miss the Rossi era and the Aliens at that time.
I still wonder if Miller and a few others like Vinales will ever raise their game. :rolleyes:
Miller won't. He's an excellent rider that won't improve, he's probably at his level and is too old to make the next jump. Probably could retire to WSB and clean up.
The level at MotoGP is that high.
Vinales, Geez. What do you say?
I just hope 2027 can bring some other brands into the frey.
sugilite
27th June 2025, 17:40
I think MV is an alien,but he is alien off the bike too.
As in that he is mostly "Lost in Space"? :innocent:
For me the only real alien left is MM. Jury still out on Acosta for me, gifted he is for sure. Would be awesome to see him get a competitive KTM and take it to the dukes.
Reckless
27th June 2025, 17:59
As in that he is mostly "Lost in Space"? :innocent:
For me the only real alien left is MM. Jury still out on Acosta for me, gifted he is for sure. Would be awesome to see him get a competitive KTM and take it to the dukes.
Yep bang on :Punk: Alien Because nobody is coping with their bikes negatives like MM.
The duc has them ask Pecco and then ask Alex why he is those always .10's behind.
It's the rider in the set up before he gets on and on the bike.
I'm not a 100% MM fan as I used to think he was a bit dirty but now injury, age and risk adversity has made him a lot cleaner.
F5 Dave
27th June 2025, 18:20
MM was a dick genius, but a dick.
But he's paid his dues more than anyone i can think of.
So im hoping he wins championship as he deserves it.
Next year I'll he tired of him.
My stash of 2nd hand books showed up from UK. Mainly GP racing books.
BMWST?
27th June 2025, 19:27
MM was a dick genius, but a dick.
But he's paid his dues more than anyone i can think of.
So im hoping he wins championship as he deserves it.
Next year I'll he tired of him.
My stash of 2nd hand books showed up from UK. Mainly GP racing books.
where from? I must look and see if I can update my motocourse collection I have quite a few but stopped a few years back
F5 Dave
27th June 2025, 20:10
[URL="https://www.abebooks.co.uk[/URL]
Bought a lot of 2nd hand books for very little.
No motocourse when I looked. People are ditching books fast it seems. They won't be worth anything soon. Obviously bygone era sports becomes less valuable by the year. I imagine treasured 1970s football albums are past peak and skyrocket towards $0 .
I remember going to see an Ipswich vs Arsenal FA cup with my team. I supported Ipswich as i didn't want to be associated with any team with Arse in its name. Geez. Just common sense.
Didn't really understand which country they were from.
Obviously I lost interest in a children's game after I stopped playing it. As a child. We kicked arse. But girls motorbikes and alcohol were legions more interesting. And at 14/15 ball sports were gone.
F5 Dave
27th June 2025, 20:53
I'm getting a bit slacked off with sites that keep popping up on my phone like motogpnews and crash net. Not sure how tgy found me but came up if I swipe right by accident. So I kept going there.
The stories are supposedly by journalists with pictures by their names but I'm getting very suspicious that they don't exist.
They seem like generic reports that just repeat absolutely every factoid ad nausea under tabloid type headlines. They also occasionally drop clangers like referring to drivers.
Maybe it's a translation from other non English sites? Seems suspicious as AI generated.
BMWST?
27th June 2025, 21:03
have you guys seen this
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ndpUz_xHy5Q
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