MotoGP 2025

[iYRe]

Ogura's team, not Ogura.

ah yeah.. well.. I didnt read the article properly, hehe. "Non-homologated software" - ECU apparently. They think it might have been left on from testing or something.

[BMWST?]

Zarco did good in the GP, Ogura did a big booboo.

Alex M looked really fast, but I guess big bro was just playing with him too.

Dunno what is up with Pecco.. holding on to 4th..

Pecco always seems to be a little slow to get the bike set up right at the beginning of the season. its was the same the last couple of seasons. The trouble for him is his team mate can adapt his style immediately as required as we have seen in the flag to flags. Mark was pushing hard said he didnt like the feel of the front he had a couple of big moments but he said he felt mmore comfortable as the race went on. He pulled out 1 second after the overtake almost immediately

[onearmedbandit]

Mark was pushing hard said he didnt like the feel of the front he had a couple of big moments but he said he felt mmore comfortable as the race went on. He pulled out 1 second after the overtake almost immediately

Where did you see that? In the post race interview he said the rear, did he change his thoughts later?

[iYRe]

Where did you see that? In the post race interview he said the rear, did he change his thoughts later?

On paddock pass they said MM had said he nearly lost the front a couple of times..

[onearmedbandit]

On paddock pass they said MM had said he nearly lost the front a couple of times..

Ah, didn't watch that yet. In parc ferme he stated the rear was the issue.

[onearmedbandit]

That's gotta sting...

[iYRe]

Ah, didn't watch that yet. In parc ferme he stated the rear was the issue.
to be fair I think it was both there for a minute.

I reckon he needed to pass Alex because it was slowing him down and his flow wasnt flowing.. once he did.. 1.3 secs..
COTA is going to be interesting.

[iYRe]

Interesting comments about S Crafar as head of stewards on the Crash podcast. They were saying how the decisions he has made so far have been spot on, and how even the riders have said "fair call". One (cant remember which one they said" commented that Simon had spoken to him and pointed out where he went wrong, and said he had learned something.

It was very high praise.. go Simon - represent.

[BMWST?]

Interesting comments about S Crafar as head of stewards on the Crash podcast. They were saying how the decisions he has made so far have been spot on, and how even the riders have said "fair call". One (cant remember which one they said" commented that Simon had spoken to him and pointed out where he went wrong, and said he had learned something.

It was very high praise.. go Simon - represent.

and I think Simon still does the demo lap(s) on the 1000 rr. I recall hearing that. overloaded after watching all motogp seesions and the paddock pass podcast and fter the flag and the pres conference. So i cant say who said it

[onearmedbandit]

and I think Simon still does the demo lap(s) on the 1000 rr. I recall hearing that. overloaded after watching all motogp seesions and the paddock pass podcast and fter the flag and the pres conference. So i cant say who said it

Yeah they mentioned that a couple times during practice sessions on the MotoGP broadcast.

[iYRe]

and today's big news, I guess, is Pecco is supposedly going back to his 2024 bike. He might regain his feeling but will that make him able to fight with MM? Or even Alex? He's like a second/lap slower.

[F5 Dave]

What's the diff? Swing arm and aero?
Maybe it will suit his style better?

You can imagine Dovi visiting the pit. "See how i felt?"

Thought experiment. Marc on Zarcos bike if he'd stayed with Honda. Hmm.

[onearmedbandit]

Thought experiment. Marc on Zarcos bike if he'd stayed with Honda. Hmm.

They are considerably slower than the competition on the straights, I could still see Marc throwing it away trying to make up for that deficit.

[sugilite]

I feel sorry for Ogura getting disqualified. What an incredible talant. Possibly even an alien in training?

[iYRe]

I feel sorry for Ogura getting disqualified. What an incredible talant. Possibly even an alien in training?

I am not an expert, but he sure is good


Bagnaia 🗣️ "Marc is very strong, he's the rider to beat ,starting with the next race. 31 points is already a lot to recover, and we have to keep in mind that the next race will be in Austin, where he is very strong , I'll return to the GP24, because at the moment my feelings are very strange."


"Marc: The most important thing is that both Alex and I are being very honest. Before the race, we shared which tire we thought was the best, and afterward, we also share the race plan I had, and if he was leading, the plan I thought he should follow. And it was that: conserve half the race and, from there, lower those two or three tenths I had. When I was behind him, I said, 'Look, he's doing it now.' And I was able to follow him, but I had been very honest with him about what the plan was, that he had to save tires, that it didn't matter if they followed us in the first ten laps. And that's what we did. In the end, when I tried to overtake him, and that lap when I did 1:38.2, and he also responded with a very fast lap, that's when he did surprise me and caught me a little off guard. I even hesitated whether to stay in that second position or not, but then I saw that he was starting to suffer a little more from the tires.He surpasses Doohan's 27 hat tricks.
Marc: I had many long calls with Doohan when I was at home with my arm in a sling. To equal and be compared to all these legends is an honor, but now, there's one thing that stands out above all else: yet another perfect weekend with my brother. We're in MotoGP, and it seems like,: No, this is normal now, it's back to normal. Yesterday, I was in the office after the Sprint and I was telling the two Joses : This isn't normal, we're going to be happy.' Everyone acted as if it were normal. Everything's going well. This year, Alex is going to win races, he's going to make things difficult, he has some very good tracks, and I'm proud of how he's working, and I'm also proud of how our team is working.

[F5 Dave]

They are considerably slower than the competition on the straights, I could still see Marc throwing it away trying to make up for that deficit.
Yes but good as Zarco is, he's an old hand, he admits that. But he was right up there for a good amount of time.
The honda was slower than Dovi's Ducati back then.

Would it be as easy? Hell no.

But he'd be several places up on Zazco. And that's fighting for the lead I'd offer maybe?

[onearmedbandit]

Maybe, but not without risk. I'm hoping to see Marc absolutely white wash the competition this season.

[pritch]

On paddock pass they said MM had said he nearly lost the front a couple of times..

He had one clearly visible ooops.

[onearmedbandit]

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Poor Pecco!

[iYRe]

That is pretty special

[SaferRides]

COTA this weekend! Always a great race, especially now that Marquez hasn't won for years. Can he do it this year?

I might have to buy an event videopass for this one, if that's still possible.

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[iYRe]

COTA this weekend! Always a great race, especially now that Marquez hasn't won for years. Can he do it this year?

I might have to buy an event videopass for this one, if that's still possible.

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Rumour has it that AM has learned to go faster on left hand turns than his brother.. so who knows? Maybe Aprilia will get on the podium, that would be cool. I think if Pecco does not podium though, he is in big trouble.

[BMWST?]

COTA this weekend! Always a great race, especially now that Marquez hasn't won for years. Can he do it this year?

I might have to buy an event videopass for this one, if that's still possible.

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Not sure you can buy an event pass. Last year i bought several monthly passes though for 29 euros and often it would cover two or even three rces

[F5 Dave]

So imagine if you will. A change of tyre manufacturer (changing the bias from rear to front) and no devices, much less aero forcing the front down .

Maybe an IL4 is a better prospect as it was in 2020 2021 perhaps?

Fuck it would be funny (but not for long) if Yamaha introduced their new V4 and the Ducati door opening to a new IL4 with a smiling Gigi next to it :laugh:

[iYRe]

If anyone is interested, this is Jack Miller on Gypsy Tales, hard case chat they have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BIDDentKNU

[iYRe]

And todays news:


Pecco Bagnaia has told Sky Sport Italia that he isn't switching back to the Ducati GP24


“Unluckily, I’m not very good at explaining things in English, maybe, because what I wanted to explain is I want to be back to my feeling of the GP24,” he said.

“I don’t want to switch to the GP24, also because it’s not possible.


“So, I know the new bike has a better potential, Marc is showing it. So, I just need to focus and find back my feeling.”


On where he is losing out on the GP25, Bagnaia revealed: “Analysing the performance, I’m missing in the entrance to the corners - entry speed to the corners.


“That was a peculiarly good point from my riding style. So, we have to focus on it and try to improve.”
From Crash.net

[F5 Dave]

I did wonder where they were going to geta couple of 24s. Put him on Martins old bike?:lol: But also Dorna rules i think, won't allow regression (for all it's worth of tiny changes seemingly).

[SaferRides]

I did wonder where they were going to geta couple of 24s. Put him on Martins old bike?[emoji38] But also Dorna rules i think, won't allow regression (for all it's worth of tiny changes seemingly).I understand that they have to inform Dorna what bikes they are going to race at the start of the season, and Ducati can't change that because they do not have any concessions. Or something like that.

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[BMWST?]

I understand that they have to inform Dorna what bikes they are going to race at the start of the season, and Ducati can't change that because they do not have any concessions. Or something like that.

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That seems odd to me.Given that other teams are using GP24s why cant Ducati olso use a 24 if they want. Its a known quantity

[sugilite]

Could this be the first podium for Ogura this week? He likes the track a lot! If he rides like he did in the earlier races and has just a little luck......

"“I finally have the chance to ride the MotoGP bike at the Circuit of the Americas, which is one of my favourite circuits of the calendar and I’m super excited to go there,” Ogura said."

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1065895/1/ai-ogura-super-excited-home-trackhouse-motogp-one-my-favourite-circuits

[F5 Dave]

That seems odd to me.Given that other teams are using GP24s why cant Ducati olso use a 24 if they want. Its a known quantity

Yeah, but teams need to specify what they ride. The 24 teams have no choice of 25s.

But the factory team decided to use the 24 engine before cut off.

Imagine how many 25 engines are in the skip out the back of Bolonga HQ,

Before being hooked out by mechanics for track bikes?

[sugilite]

OK, Friday practice is all wrapped up.
The ducks claim the top 5 positions on the time sheets. The slow one out? Bagnaia down in 10th - yikes.
MM is predictably out in front - by .736. It was on a drying track, and he is particularly potent in those conditions. Maybe the true level of others won't be found until the sprint race.

[iYRe]

OK, Friday practice is all wrapped up.
The ducks claim the top 5 positions on the time sheets. The slow one out? Bagnaia down in 10th - yikes.
MM is predictably out in front - by .736. It was on a drying track, and he is particularly potent in those conditions. Maybe the true level of others won't be found until the sprint race.

Everyone seems to think he'll win, me, I think he'll either run away with it or it will be him v Alex and he'll take it. 3rd place is where the interest is...

[iYRe]

Epic first lap today..

Also from that JM vid, here is him talking about MM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfnrSdyBbMg

[jato]

Briefly entertaining hussle from Pedro and a spirited try from Fabio on that Yamaha... that standard script up front though

[iYRe]

Briefly entertaining hussle from Pedro and a spirited try from Fabio on that Yamaha... that standard script up front though

yup, A;though Pecco was matching lap times a few laps in, so maybe if he can get off the line and keep it together... AM said that first lap was pushing real hard heh

[onearmedbandit]

Well that sure was interesting.

[iYRe]

Well that sure was interesting.

Yes, very interesting lol

And then the limits are sooooo slim.. a few mm of wet paint can lose you a race when you're seconds ahead.

[BMWST?]

i was watching him cross the kerbs and thought hmmmmm

[onearmedbandit]

Reading about the start, Marc knew if 10 riders followed his move there would be no penalty. The guy is a master of the racing game in every facet.

[iYRe]

Reading about the start, Marc knew if 10 riders followed his move there would be no penalty. The guy is a master of the racing game in every facet.

He's one of those annoying people, got skills, brains, talent, seems like a decent bloke, and got the looks.

At least Alex still got second lol

[iYRe]

So, if you change your tyres you dont start from pit lane, you rejoin and do a ride through penalty, so everyone got it wrong:


https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2025/03/31/unmissable-watch-marc-marquez-decide-on-his-grid-gamble-and-decide-wrong/522811

[mulletman]

Had a wee prang

https://youtu.be/KUtS6nLiIB8?si=Ud-7ZLqkZZC35iz-

[BMWST?]

So, if you change your tyres you dont start from pit lane, you rejoin and do a ride through penalty, so everyone got it wrong:


https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2025/03/31/unmissable-watch-marc-marquez-decide-on-his-grid-gamble-and-decide-wrong/522811
MM did get that wrong but I think his actual strategy was to get the race restarted. 9 riders had to follow him.

[iYRe]

MM did get that wrong but I think his actual strategy was to get the race restarted. 9 riders had to follow him.

Apparently not, according to Crash... not even 10 followed anyway, like half a dozen. There was chaos, Vinales didnt have a bike on track, others were running around...

MM has a history of this though. There was a race he went out on a soft rain tyre, told the team he'd be in after one lap for slicks, came in, swapped and won by 13 secs. Crutchlow said "I saw what you were doing but it was too late to respond you F&(*&^*^&^" heh

[F5 Dave]

Had a wee prang

https://youtu.be/KUtS6nLiIB8?si=Ud-7ZLqkZZC35iz-
Oxymoron right there:facepalm:

[diesel pig]

Had a wee prang

https://youtu.be/KUtS6nLiIB8?si=Ud-7ZLqkZZC35iz-

He just got overexcited. It happens to also all of us at some stage of life.

[F5 Dave]

To be fair, it looks like a damn slippery track in the wet withthecar. Good thing it wasn't for the bikes. Really.


Heck just sunk in the ironing that Marc fell off in light of pre race shenanigans.

I had mentioned to a mates when I saw grid that it looked like Bags was falling apart like an Italian motorbike (ok so I added that last bit just now). Good to be proven wrong. Maybe it will give him the confidence to take the fight to the Bros in Qatar.
Didn't Jack do well?

[SaferRides]

That was crazy at the start. At least everyone knows the rules now, but they may need more changes to stop it happening again.

Mav trying to find his bike was hilarious!

Yes, well done Jack. First non-Ducati ( there should be an award at each race) and way ahead of the next Yamaha.

That was a bad mistake by Marc, not sure why he was pushing that hard as he'd opened a good gap.

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[iYRe]

That was crazy at the start. At least everyone knows the rules now, but they may need more changes to stop it happening again.

Mav trying to find his bike was hilarious!

Yes, well done Jack. First non-Ducati ( there should be an award at each race) and way ahead of the next Yamaha.

That was a bad mistake by Marc, not sure why he was pushing that hard as he'd opened a good gap.

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There is argument that MM has an issue when it is too easy.. clearly the dude is always thinking about what's going on apart from just getting the bike around the circuit - everyone else is sitting on the grid and Marc is working out a plan to get into everyone's heads. Perhaps his concentration just drifts a fraction when he is not having to come from last, or wrestle a beast. It's possibly Pecco's only chance lol

[SaferRides]

There is argument that MM has an issue when it is too easy.. clearly the dude is always thinking about what's going on apart from just getting the bike around the circuit - everyone else is sitting on the grid and Marc is working out a plan to get into everyone's heads. Perhaps his concentration just drifts a fraction when he is not having to come from last, or wrestle a beast. It's possibly Pecco's only chance lolThe last 2 races he followed Alex for many laps, which gave him something to do. It's not the first time he's crashed out when leading, although COTA seems to be an easy place to crash. Even Zarco did!

I expect Acosta's manger will be busy once they are back in Europe. This must be the worst KTM for some time.

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[iYRe]

The last 2 races he followed Alex for many laps, which gave him something to do. It's not the first time he's crashed out when leading, although COTA seems to be an easy place to crash. Even Zarco did!

I expect Acosta's manger will be busy once they are back in Europe. This must be the worst KTM for some time.

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Where do you reckon Costa will go then?

[SaferRides]

I'm sure he'd like a Ducati - it would have to be Gresini, but who would be replace?

Honda and Yamaha still have some way to go and Pedro is in a hurry. Otherwise Aprillia but we won't know how fast it really is until Martin gets up to speed.

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[SaferRides]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/1066645/1/pedro-acostas-motogp-future-what-does-he-does-he-do-next

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[iYRe]

No one knows eh? I've watched all the main channels on YT, and a number of the dodgy ones.. lol - nothing is any clearer

[jato]

Given the limited options he could do worse than getting in LCR alongside Zarco who seems to be pretty good at nudging that Honda in the right direction imo

[F5 Dave]

Given the limited options he could do worse than getting in LCR alongside Zarco who seems to be pretty good at nudging that Honda in the right direction imo

Gee you wouldn't say that last year. But you might be right.

Always thought Morbidelli would get nerfed for Acosta, but hasn't he got back on track given a 2024?

Marc mistake isn't so surprising as that track has multiple curves in s that compound especially at that sort of speed. Has to happen sometime.
Pity after such a chess game at the start.

[SaferRides]

Given the limited options he could do worse than getting in LCR alongside Zarco who seems to be pretty good at nudging that Honda in the right direction imoNot LCR unless they let Zarco go, which seems unlikely. The other LCR seat is for an Asian rider. Marini is off contract next year, so it could be there. But that would be a tough call on him.

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[F5 Dave]

Apparently MM was standing beside his bike at the start, so Peco knew something was up. If Marc runs you run. Lessens his advantage or equals your disadvantage.

That is the rule Martin didn't follow when he pulled in at Italian GP instead of doing what Peco does, and almost cost him championship.

[iYRe]

So, I think Acosta is going to stay with KTM. His only other option really is VR46 to get a decent bike, and that will be a bit tricky - although if VR wants him, he's in I guess.

[F5 Dave]

Well. . . Any Dooclatterie now is a good one and 26 engines frozen to 24 spec. All that changes is support.

[BMWST?]

MM was crossing the kerbs which i thought was a bit dicy,but he had been cutting them the whole race,he says he just cut that one a bit too much

[SaferRides]

MM was crossing the kerbs which i thought was a bit dicy,but he had been cutting them the whole race,he says he just cut that one a bit too muchThey all seem to crash, Peccco has now finished 6 races in a row which must be close to a record for him.

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[pritch]

That seems odd to me.Given that other teams are using GP24s why cant Ducati olso use a 24 if they want. Its a known quantity

IIRC the factories have to nominate exactly which seven engines they will use during the season and those engines are sealed prior to the first race. Concessions relax some rules and may increase the number of engines up to nine.

[BMWST?]

IIRC the factories have to nominate exactly which seven engines they will use during the season and those engines are sealed prior to the first race. Concessions relax some rules and may increase the number of engines up to nine.
too many rules imho. The teams should be free to use any combination of past models. The tyre pressure rules are also a negative in my opinion.

[SaferRides]

too many rules imho. The teams should be free to use any combination of past models. The tyre pressure rules are also a negative in my opinion.The tyre pressure rules are for safety, and exist in many motorsport categories for the same reason.

MotoGP may have tried to be too clever by setting minimum pressures during the race, but it appears that after a revision, most teams, apart from Ducati, are able to comply now.

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[F5 Dave]

Imagine if the got so soft that they deformed so badly under huge stress braking that they de-beaded.

Dooclattery are so far ahead the constraints vs concessions give other factories the incentive to continue, rather than pull out like Suzuki did.

[Reckless]

Hi All
Been away for a month freedom camping in the race trailer/camper I built, in the South Island, so had to have a big catchup.
Downloaded all the MotoGp Races via reddit MotoGp thread and associated links and had a crash course on the first 3 meetings.
Few hours watching while the next meeting downloaded and it was done and dusted.

Only to discover 3Now has all the races again this year after an ad popped up, go figure, always learn after, never before Bugger :rolleyes:

For the first time I felt a little same old, same old, with the Marquez boys repeating their finishes on multiple occasions.
MM crashing in the last one was the only exciting bit (not that I watch the races for crashes).

Might try and watch a bit of our Kiwi lad in Moto3 if I get time.

Now that 3now has it and I didn't subscribe for the first 3 races. I might do last years exercise and either watch live or download now I have a superfast USB drive I can take from the computer to the TV.

Looks like its all Ducati again this year with KTM all at sea and Yamaha and Honda trying hard but not quite there yet.
See what this weekend brings

Looks like both Qatar MotoGP races are on Sunday Monday 5am our time wonder how quick 3now wil have them up????

[iYRe]

3Now seem like they are a week late...

Motomundo is being continually DDOS'd at the moment, and my rugby go to rubu.tv (free for 2 days using unverified credentials) is not working either.. woe is me.

[SaferRides]

3Now seem like they are a week late...

Motomundo is being continually DDOS'd at the moment, and my rugby go to rubu.tv (free for 2 days using unverified credentials) is not working either.. woe is me.Oh, that's not good. I'll see what's out there at the weekend.

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[BMWST?]

Following on from breif discussion above re the number of rules. This is actually WSBK but i cant find a current thread. Is there one? Anyway Ducati and BMW have had a fuel flow limit imposed on them. Apparently there is a MSMA (Motorcycle Superbike Manufacturers Association) algorithm and both Ducati and BMW have to reduce their fuel flow rate by 0.5 kg/hr.That seems a lot to me but who knows. If the burn rate is 100kg an hour its not so bad. There appears to be some kind of measuring device or limiting device on each bike

https://photos.worldsbk.com/2025/04/10/082f5de3-58da-1ea6-6229-756b020b672f_full.jpg

[SaferRides]

Following on from breif discussion above re the number of rules. This is actually WSBK but i cant find a current thread. Is there one? Anyway Ducati and BMW have had a fuel flow limit imposed on them. Apparently there is a MSMA (Motorcycle Superbike Manufacturers Association) algorithm and both Ducati and BMW have to reduce their fuel flow rate by 0.5 kg/hr.That seems a lot to me but who knows. If the burn rate is 100kg an hour its not so bad. There appears to be some kind of measuring device or limiting device on each bike

https://photos.worldsbk.com/2025/04/10/082f5de3-58da-1ea6-6229-756b020b672f_full.jpg
One litre of petrol is about 0.75 kg, so maybe 0.4 l in a 40 min. race?

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[SaferRides]

3Now seem like they are a week late...

Motomundo is being continually DDOS'd at the moment, and my rugby go to rubu.tv (free for 2 days using unverified credentials) is not working either.. woe is me.I was able to download the pre-event press conference from the GoFile link, but trying to download P1 didn't work this morning as the connection limit had been exceeded. That often happens at this time of day as it's evening in Europe, so I'll try later.

So looks normal to me.

I download the videos as that works better for casting with my TV setup.

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[Reckless]

I Downloaded FP1 off the go file and watched it now downloading Practice.
I started to download practice this moning it was coming down @ 900 KB/s then I bailed on it because wanted to try the Watch online version casting from my phone.
I discovered it runs fine on the phone or computer but it will not cast to any TV we have here finds the TV but does want to load.
Now re downloading Practice now @ 500 KB/s about an hours worth for the 2.9 gig.

I wish they would supply a torrent link they are much faster. Other than Motomundo I cant find any other links on Reddit Motorsport replays for the Qatar GP which is odd????

Has anyone else had the casting Issue?

[SaferRides]

I Downloaded FP1 off the go file and watched it now downloading Practice.
I started to download practice this moning it was coming down @ 900 KB/s then I bailed on it because wanted to try the Watch online version casting from my phone.
I discovered it runs fine on the phone or computer but it will not cast to any TV we have here finds the TV but does want to load.
Now re downloading Practice now @ 500 KB/s about an hours worth for the 2.9 gig.

I wish they would supply a torrent link they are much faster. Other than Motomundo I cant find any other links on Reddit Motorsport replays for the Qatar GP which is odd????

Has anyone else had the casting Issue?

Which device are you using to download? I downloaded practice on my phone in about 5 minutes, about 9 MB/s. We have 900 Mb fibre though. That speed seems fairly consistent, generally faster than OneDrive is at home.

Mtotmundo seems to be the only option for MotoGP in the Motorsport Replays subreddit. I should make a donation as they are not doing all that on GoFile for free!

I use VLC for playback and no problems casting to my ancient Chromecast, unlike Sky Go which fails regularly.

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[Reckless]

Which device are you using to download? I downloaded practice on my phone in about 5 minutes, about 9 MB/s. We have 900 Mb fibre though. That speed seems fairly consistent, generally faster than OneDrive is at home.

Mtotmundo seems to be the only option for MotoGP in the Motorsport Replays subreddit. I should make a donation as they are not doing all that on GoFile for free!

I use VLC for playback and no problems casting to my ancient Chromecast, unlike Sky Go which fails regularly.

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I use my computer on fibre, then dump it on a USB stick (1m45 secs for 2.6gig), then plug the USB directly into the TV.
Been out on the dirt bike all day so I just downloading Qually and the Sprint now.
Should here by the time I've unloaded the dirt bike tho, so all good.

Funny thing is if you download more than one it does seem to slow the others up so I got 3 going at once.

356028

[iYRe]

Twas a god race, Fabio is lookin pretty pleased after today.

Ominous words from AM, saying that today his brother was faster than him on the right handers, which he was surprised about.

Same words his old Gresini chief said too

[BMWST?]

Ominous perhaps for #63. I can excuse the crash but what on earth happened later and in the sprint? I didnt quite buy MMs ploy of saying he is not fast there. The VR46 boys are looking good now too.
Wa interesting that in some behind the scenes stuff that the ducatis(MM and AM discussing) suffer from vibration too.Can see the fairings vibrating on all the bikes in the slo mo shots.

[iYRe]

Well the main race was interesting.. Sucks to be MV though...

MM is just playin again.

[Reckless]

That was the best race of the season so far MM strategy was spot on.
Not his biggest fan but Feel for MV. AM was overriding a bit.
Franco and VR 46 doing well Diggi didnt deserve that.
Over all good to see some competition :clap:

The bonus was race was at 5am NZ time, not sure when it first arrived but it was up on the 3now app by 8am so no downloading = :banana:

[onearmedbandit]

Bad luck for Mav and even worse for Jorge

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1067925/1/motogp-champion-jorge-martin-taken-hospital-after-qatar-gp-crash

[sugilite]

I think it sux that there is a fucking stupid rule that if a rider has a break out ride, they are screwed by this tyre pressure rule. Motogp really need to sort this shit out.

[iYRe]

Apparently MM backed off the gas a touch thats why AM collected him.

Martin had a prang, and its not good news.


Jorge Martin's CT scan has revealed an increase in the pneumothorax he suffered. The Spaniard will have to remain under observation for a few days in the hospital until the pneumothorax resolves.
Pneumothorax is a medical condition where air collects in the pleural space—the area between the lungs and the chest wall. This air puts pressure on the lung, causing it to partially or fully collapse.

[BMWST?]

Apparently MM backed off the gas a touch thats why AM collected him.

Martin had a prang, and its not good news.
I think Digi hit him too

[pritch]

Coupla rumours from Oxley Bom.

Acosta to Honda at season's end. No evidence apparently but from multiple sources.

Kenan Sofuoglu was seen in the MotoGP paddock. The former multiple WSS world champion is currently Toprak Razgatioglu's manager. The rumour has Razgatioglu moving to Honda in Superbikes next season then to MotoGP when the new rules come in for '27.

[BMWST?]

here is martins crash.Ouch


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8QE1523L42g

[F5 Dave]

Says 11 ribs, Jesus. I've done 5 and it took months and months.

[Reckless]

Says 11 ribs, Jesus. I've done 5 and it took months and months.

It'll hurt to laugh thats for sure :(
11 ribs jeepers I would have thought the airbag would have helped more.
Been down twice with my tech 5 and it was great, I won't even ride road without one now.

[BMWST?]

It'll hurt to laugh thats for sure :(
11 ribs jeepers I would have thought the airbag would have helped more.
Been down twice with my tech 5 and it was great, I won't even ride road without one now.

digi ran straight into him ,thats what did his ribs i reckon

[onearmedbandit]

Yup this pic gives a better view of how little Digi could do

[SaferRides]

digi ran straight into him ,thats what did his ribs i reckonYes, that's what did the damage. He would have probably been fine otherwise. He can't fly home until the lung reinflates (I don't know the medical term?), probably months before he can race again.

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[jato]

It'll hurt to laugh thats for sure :(
11 ribs jeepers I would have thought the airbag would have helped more.
Been down twice with my tech 5 and it was great, I won't even ride road without one now.

Years ago tucked the front while leading and got ran over ... a couple of ribs paid the price. weeks later they'd set and didn't hurt any more. then driving into early morning sun i sneezed - that was worse than getting run over .

[pritch]

Italian press claim to have the details. Acosta will have the cash. NZ$172 minion and change over three years.

[Reckless]

Yup this pic gives a better view of how little Digi could do

Jeepers how could I miss that :brick: Thanks makes me feel a bit safer :crazy:
I bought a tech 7 for the track as Tech 5 is on its last blowup @ $500 per time, kept my tech 5 for the road only.
Secondly you can now change the canisters your self 4 times on the 7 so it is way more cost efective.

Acosta might go to Honda if Zarco keeps doing his thing. Overall maybe the wakeup call of MM leaving did Honda a favor.
Its big money but I'd guess winning motovates Acosta more I reckon.

[SaferRides]

I watched the full race tonight. it was good, I wish I hadn't known that Marc won. But it was obvious he was managing the tyres.

There can't be that much wrong with the KTM if Mav can beat all of the Ducatis except Marc.

The tyre pressure rule is just ridiculous. It has to go, what a fucking joke it made of the post race. Or are Dorna so stupid they don't realize this? It nearly cost Marc the first race, I was amazed he was able to manage it.



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[SaferRides]

And why don't they use AI for a live translation of the riders' discussion after the race?

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[onearmedbandit]

I watched the full race tonight. it was good, I wish I hadn't known that Marc won. But it was obvious he was managing the tyres.

There can't be that much wrong with the KTM if Mav can beat all of the Ducatis except Marc.

The tyre pressure rule is an absolute crock of shit. It has to go, what a fucking joke it made of the post race. Or are Dorna so stupid they don't realize this? It nearly cost Marc the first race, I was amazed he was able to manage it.



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Apparently Mav's Rc16 was a different spec to the other three. I read a piece on the tyre rule the other day, which attributed blame equally amongst 3 parties. Obviously Michelin, but also Dorna and the teams. They all had their bit on creating the situation they are in now. I believe they're getting less aero (which is one of the factors) in 2027 so that might help Pirelli deliver the goods.

[SaferRides]

Apparently Mav's Rc16 was a different spec to the other three.

This is what Herve Poncharal said. So different, but not special.

https://m.gpone.com/en/2025/04/16/motogp/poncharal-i-was-surprised-to-hear-marquez-and-bagnaia-praise-the-ktm.html



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[sugilite]

Why they do not simply specify a minimum tyre pressure limit to be set at the start of each race I do not know.

[onearmedbandit]

This is what Herve Poncharal said. So different, but not special.



Yeah none of the reports I heard or read said it was special, just different to the others.

[F5 Dave]

The Pirelli are less susceptible to tyre pressure in front apparently. Maybe Michelin will bring a front tyre to avoid a bad comparison with 2027?

[BMWST?]

I watched the full race tonight. it was good, I wish I hadn't known that Marc won. But it was obvious he was managing the tyres.

There can't be that much wrong with the KTM if Mav can beat all of the Ducatis except Marc.

The tyre pressure rule is just ridiculous. It has to go, what a fucking joke it made of the post race. Or are Dorna so stupid they don't realize this? It nearly cost Marc the first race, I was amazed he was able to manage it.



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The scary thing is Marc looks really relaxed on the bike,almost as if he isnt trying. Maverick is FAST .As lng as he has confidece in the bike he is able to beat anybody. I think he was at the end of his front tyre too when he ran wide

[onearmedbandit]

Kenan Sofuoglu was seen in the MotoGP paddock. The former multiple WSS world champion is currently Toprak Razgatioglu's manager. The rumour has Razgatioglu moving to Honda in Superbikes next season then to MotoGP when the new rules come in for '27.

Watched something interesting on that particular point, all conjecture of course, but it was argued that Toprak will be able to test the 2027 MotoGP bike while in its development phase next year and get a head start on the field with reduced aero and 850cc engines. If that's Honda's plan, it's a good one.

[iYRe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DXkX7gj44
Pretty cool interview with Marc here about life and stuff

Yeah Vinales has more 2025 bits I think

[SaferRides]

Yeah Vinales has more 2025 bits I think
Herve Poncharal has been very impressed with his attitude and the effort he is making to adjust to the KTM. Hopefully the result at Losail will not be a one off.



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[pritch]

Watched something interesting on that particular point, all conjecture of course, but it was argued that Toprak will be able to test the 2027 MotoGP bike while in its development phase next year and get a head start on the field with reduced aero and 850cc engines. If that's Honda's plan, it's a good one.


It makes sense. MotoGP contracted riders can't test outside the permitted test days. An uncontracted rider could go for it - until he signs.

[SaferRides]

It makes sense. MotoGP contracted riders can't test outside the permitted test days. An uncontracted rider could go for it - until he signs.But he would need to be contracted by Honda as a test rider unless it was just occasional rides, and I expect the other teams would have something to say about him becoming a full time rider in 2027!

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[pritch]

But he would need to be contracted by Honda as a test rider unless it was just occasional rides, and I expect the other teams would have something to say about him becoming a full time rider in 2027!

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Well the rumour is that he'll be a contracted Honda Superbikes rider in 2026 so that's only one additional line in the contract.

[SaferRides]

Well the rumour is that he'll be a contracted Honda Superbikes rider in 2026 so that's only one additional line in the contract.The contract is the easy part, it's complying with the testing rules that's tricky. Aprillia couldn't even put Jorge Martin on a MotoGP bike for a day before Qatar.

Time will tell, but it would be great to see what Toprak can do on a MotoGP bike.



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[SaferRides]

Jerez this weekend! Aleix Espargaro will be a Honda wildcard and testing an engine upgrade. Should be interesting to see how he goes.

Jorge Martin is out of hospital and should be home soon.

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[sugilite]

Herve Poncharal has been very impressed with his attitude and the effort he is making to adjust to the KTM. Hopefully the result at Losail will not be a one off.


I've suffered to many false dawns with Mav to believe anything will be different this time. He will maybe will do one more really good performance this year, and that will be about it - if he follows the last 6 years patterns. He is unbeatable on his day, the problem is that day comes no more than once or twice a year. I would be happy for him to prove otherwise.

[onearmedbandit]

I've suffered to many false dawns with Mav to believe anything will be different this time. He will maybe will do one more really good performance this year, and that will be about it - if he follows the last 6 years patterns. He is unbeatable on his day, the problem is that day comes no more than once or twice a year. I would be happy for him to prove otherwise.

100% agreed. I've kept the faith for years, the guy has undeniable talent as a racer, but something is holding him back from being able to deliver it consistently.

[BMWST?]

Jerez this weekend! Aleix Espargaro will be a Honda wildcard and testing an engine upgrade. Should be interesting to see how he goes.

Jorge Martin is out of hospital and should be home soon.

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Motogp interviwed him trackside He had some interesting things to say .He had heaps and heaps of material to test when he first joined Honda and they were able to put togther the bike they have now from that material.

[SaferRides]

Motogp interviwed him trackside He had some interesting things to say .He had heaps and heaps of material to test when he first joined Honda and they were able to put togther the bike they have now from that material.Yes, including stuff that had been tried and discarded! Honda did really well getting Aleix as a test rider.

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[jato]

Who doesn't like seeing an underdog on top? it was yippee and yeahah in this household... ... for one lap. come on give that guy the V4
as for our jack ...

[SaferRides]

Our Jack???

It is starting to become predictable, maybe someone can make a race of it on Sunday?

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[jato]

"our jack" - parents are from Dannevirke, apparently he has a kiwi passport
quite exciting race, esp the first few laps. Mav putting up an impressive effort - almost starting a trend?

[iYRe]

"our jack" - parents are from Dannevirke, apparently he has a kiwi passport
quite exciting race, esp the first few laps. Mav putting up an impressive effort - almost starting a trend?

In his most recent interview with Gypsy Tales he says he spent Xmas over here with his grand parents.

Well, big race was a bit interesting, FQ led for a bit, MM led for a bit till he bit the dust. Pecco is.. well.. screwed. Alex M is - I reckon, gonna be hard to beat this year. Mr Consistant. The scenes in the Gresini garage were amazing.

[Reckless]

Sprint was a bit ominus but the race this morning was really good.
Really pleased for AM he deserved a win, but it doesn't look to good for Pecco atm.
Rider of the day Fabio so good to see Yamaha up there again.

Being a Yahaha racer. Big weekend of racing.
Trackday Saturday was fine all day at Hampton :headbang: but sunday the Autumn classic was a washout never got to turn a wheel :nono:
Oil in the track during first group out then wait 2 hours to see if they could wash it away then it pissed down so they called it around lunchtime.
No complaints NZCMRR made all the right calls "Thats racing"

Only complaint was bloody Hampton shafting us again! Now charging an extra 50 bucks on top of your entry if you want to get a wet bike through scrutineering for a trackday FFS.
It's 3 mins inspection and one bloody sticker for a second bike, you can only ride one at a time.
They seem to be shafting us every bloody oppurtunity the can, I'd bet they dont even pay the inspection guys.
The poor bugger in front of me that abviously had his kids 300 wet bike paid an extra 50 bucks for a bike he was never going to use on the day.
Thanks for nothing Tony Quinn and Hampton Downs :Playnice: :mad:

and finally 10 points to TV3 the race was up and ready for viewing when I checked at 7:30am bit h sunday spring and the Main race.: banana:

[jato]

I hear you Reckless - its been a while since i've entered a race meeting but i keep hearing big dollar costs of racing lately... roll on the new track behind Tauranga that is looking good with costs aimed to encourage racing https://www.thunderridge.co.nz/

[diesel pig]

Finding out Jack Miller has a bit of Kiwi in him is making me feel weird. When you hear him speak on the grid he seconds like a Classic Ozzie.

[onearmedbandit]

Finding out Jack Miller has a bit of Kiwi in him is making me feel weird. When you hear him speak on the grid he seconds like a Classic Ozzie.

Born and bred Aussie so makes sense.

[Reckless]

I hear you Reckless - its been a while since i've entered a race meeting but i keep hearing big dollar costs of racing lately... roll on the new track behind Tauranga that is looking good with costs aimed to encourage racing https://www.thunderridge.co.nz/

I chat with Gary a little resource consent has been a pain.
I think they are aiming 2026
Have you seen this 3d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYxrJ9_Oiw

[SaferRides]

I'm not sure why Marc didn't wait for the race to come to him, but I guess it's just not in his DNA. It is such a difficult track to overtake on the current MotoGP bikes, although Alex managed it. It helps having a quick bike!

Alex could be a serious contender if Marc keeps crashing every 2 or 3 races, but he needs to stop the banzai moves. He certainly has the speed.

Mav the fastest KTM by a long way!

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[BMWST?]

I'm not sure why Marc didn't wait for the race to come to him, but I guess it's just not in his DNA. It is such a difficult track to overtake on the current MotoGP bikes, although Alex managed it. It helps having a quick bike!

Alex could be a serious contender if Marc keeps crashing every 2 or 3 races, but he needs to stop the banzai moves. He certainly has the speed.

Mav the fastest KTM by a long way!

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my sentiments too but I think its a little more complex. Mark reckons he wasnt doing any thing over the top. Pecco was explaing that he loses confidence in the front when he is trying to overtake. Its the first time Mark has really been behind more than 1 bike. Was his crash related to what Peco says. I got the info re Marc from after the flag. I thinks pecos remark were also after the flag

[SaferRides]

my sentiments too but I think its a little more complex. Mark reckons he wasnt doing any thing over the top. Pecco was explaing that he loses confidence in the front when he is trying to overtake. Its the first time Mark has really been behind more than 1 bike. Was his crash related to what Peco says. I got the info re Marc from after the flag. I thinks pecos remark were also after the flagThere were a lot of crashes over the whole weekend, including riders who don't crash often, and mostly the front going suddenly. Half of the Ducatis crashed out of the race, and how often does that happen?

Maybe they just need a better front tyre. It would be nice to see racing for more than a lap at a time.

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[Reckless]

MM said in one interview I saw that he was cruising, waiting for his time.
He was completely unsure how he lost it and had to have a look at all the data with the engineers to try and get an answer.
AH well Happy for AM and to see Fabio have some sucess. Long season to go yet :)

[iYRe]

There were a lot of crashes over the whole weekend, including riders who don't crash often, and mostly the front going suddenly. Half of the Ducatis crashed out of the race, and how often does that happen?

Maybe they just need a better front tyre. It would be nice to see racing for more than a lap at a time.

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Pecco was saying that the front is vague.. and they suspect that's why MM fell too.

Interestingly AM's times were pretty much what Pecco did last year which suggests to me that Pecco isnt actually faster than Alex, and Alex isnt as fast as Marc.

Testing times were interesting... MM was .3 faster than next fastest and Pecco was 1.5s down. Probably not much to read into that though.

[SaferRides]

Pecco was saying that the front is vague.. and they suspect that's why MM fell too.

Interestingly AM's times were pretty much what Pecco did last year which suggests to me that Pecco isnt actually faster than Alex, and Alex isnt as fast as Marc.

Testing times were interesting... MM was .3 faster than next fastest and Pecco was 1.5s down. Probably not much to read into that though.Yes, my comment about Marc may have been unfair. It did appear from the replays that he came into the corner slightly wide and fast, but he clearly expected to be OK.

Ducati seem at a loss to help Pecco, and we're well into the season now. Mav has done well at 2 different tracks, but the KTM needs some upgrades to beat the Ducatis.

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[BMWST?]

Yes, my comment about Marc may have been unfair. It did appear from the replays that he came into the corner slightly wide and fast, but he clearly expected to be OK.

Ducati seem at a loss to help Pecco, and we're well into the season now. Mav has done well at 2 different tracks, but the KTM needs some upgrades to beat the Ducatis.

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Only one Ducati beat him at Quatar

[SaferRides]

Only one Ducati beat him at QuatarOn the track yes, but that's not what the results say. He was 4th on Sunday at Jerez.

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[F5 Dave]

Spaniards on Spanish tracks.

[SaferRides]

Maybe I was right about Marc's crash after all:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1068792/1/marc-marquez-reflects-jerez-mistake-first-crash-left-corner

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[SaferRides]

If you use Motomundo, they are looking for donations to upgrade their server. Better protection against DDoS (Denial of Service) attacks is the main reason.

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