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nerrrd
17th September 2025, 12:42
Production confirmed for Europe. (https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/motorcycles/media/pressreleases/547180/confirmed-name-production-timing-and-major-specification-details-for-the-honda-wn7-its-first-electri)

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johcar
17th September 2025, 12:44
A bike with a niche market

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BMWST?
17th September 2025, 15:45
they gotta look more Mechanical and or a really nice full fairing,and have a 200 km range I reckon. I bet they would be really nice to ride,praps too nice.
nerrrd
17th September 2025, 16:23
A bike with a niche market

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The niche markets in Europe can be pretty popular though, if you look at the big scooters and Honda’s own DCT bikes.
johcar
17th September 2025, 17:32
But they have the range of an ICE motorcycle....

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nerrrd
17th September 2025, 17:38
they gotta look more Mechanical and or a really nice full fairing,and have a 200 km range I reckon. I bet they would be really nice to ride,praps too nice.

This one’s pretty cool (https://www.vergemotorcycles.com/ts-pro/) and can do that kind of range but at around three times the price.

https://s18390.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Verge-TS-Pro-California-Edition-1.jpg
BMWST?
17th September 2025, 18:13
The Honda has only a 130 k range That would be ok if you could charge it very quickly. 130 Ks just aint enough .That will only get me over the Remutakas and back.One of the shortest rides i would do in the 'rapa would be 219km door to door. I spose a 1/hr charge time would be doable as a lunch stop
Gremlin
17th September 2025, 19:19
At 13k pounds, surely this will be NZD30k+. For 130km of range (probably less given manufacturers claims being over the top)
Same as the BMW CE-04. Launches expensive, limited range, doesn't sell. Battery tech probably ain't that cutting edge. Manufacturer complains the demand isn't there. Flogs out the stock, stops experimenting.

I have a niche use case for them... but the high cost, lack of range and limited use (partially due to lack of said range)... still waiting. Perhaps the new tech VW and Ducati are testing (solid state batteries) might finally yield some improvements.

Unless the tech is using the likes of BYD technology, the constant charging hurts the battery, and at 130km... you're going to be charging it a lot.
release_the_bees
17th September 2025, 21:37
Yeah, it's a tough sell when you can buy a really decent commuter bike for $10k. You can do an awful lot of commuting with $20k worth of fuel. As a rough calculation, my R3 would do 180,000 kms on $20k worth of gas at current pump prices. (Assuming I haven't stuffed my maths up.)

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SaferRides
17th September 2025, 23:10
The range is a joke. I can do twice that on the R1 and fill it in 2 minutes max.

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nerrrd
18th September 2025, 10:47
I think they still have a deadline for no more ICE vehicles in Europe (2035), might be a factor?

Yes there's no practical use case that I can see for this bike, but then I wouldn't have a clue about the travel habits of the average European. Maybe if you want to look a bit cooler commuting around town than the average e-bike/scooter rider and have a lot of disposable income?
BMWST?
18th September 2025, 13:24
I think they still have a deadline for no more ICE vehicles in Europe (2035), might be a factor?

Yes there's no practical use case that I can see for this bike, but then I wouldn't have a clue about the travel habits of the average European. Maybe if you want to look a bit cooler commuting around town than the average e-bike/scooter rider and have a lot of disposable income?
Not sure about the deadline for motorcycles.The number of motorcycles in the total euro fleet would be very small I imagine. I dont think the UK has made their mind up re motorcycles and the ban yet. If they ban them they will kill the new motorcyle industry(UK) overnight
SaferRides
19th September 2025, 23:04
I think they still have a deadline for no more ICE vehicles in Europe (2035), might be a factor?

Yes there's no practical use case that I can see for this bike, but then I wouldn't have a clue about the travel habits of the average European. Maybe if you want to look a bit cooler commuting around town than the average e-bike/scooter rider and have a lot of disposable income?It will take a breakthrough in battery tech for e-motorbikes to make any sense. Euro manufacturers will not survive if ICE motorbikes are banned from 2035, so I doubt it will happen as things stand.

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