Used Gear - How to best pass it on?

[rastuscat]

I've been in the motorcycle safety game for several decades.

In that time, I've collected several jackets, pairs of pants, various other gear. Some gets worn more than others.

I see people every day riding in shocking gear, shorts, t-shirts, that sort of thing. How do we get across to those people that ATGATT isn't just a vague notion, because asphalt isn't a snack.

I'd gladly donate some of my unused gear, if there was a mechanism to do that.

I know that my gear is used, but surely it's better than bugger all.

[BMWST?]

On a related note I see that Ausie are going to mandate hi Viz and gloves for motorcyclists. I can only suggest a recycle shop at the tip or another similar outlet. They may not be keen because of limited appeal.

[F5 Dave]

Gloves makes Good sense as some people have limited imagination.
Hi vis that's more of a choice. Maybe worthwhile for commuting in shitty weather where conspicuity is paramount.
For much of Aussie though other vehicles aren't likely your issue out of cities. Same here really.

[F5 Dave]

But yes. Agree with OP. How to get gear out there too people who don't think they need it. . .

[rastuscat]

On a related note I see that Ausie are going to mandate hi Viz and gloves for motorcyclists. I can only suggest a recycle shop at the tip or another similar outlet. They may not be keen because of limited appeal.

Enforcement is always the problem with legislating things.

Politicians and bureaucrats think something is a great idea, when they have no idea how to practically enforce it.

Lets watch how many additional chases lead to injury and death because some disqualified or unlicenced motorcyclist who isn't wearing gloves get's the red/blues from Police. Who will be blamed when the chase ends in tears.

On the up side, this rule may lead to unlicensed and disqualified motorcyclists wearing gloves and hi-viz, to avoid being caught.

The unintended consequences of mandatory this and that can be interesting.

[FLUB]

I kind of understand why idiots wear shorts and t-shirts when it's hot, but how does their brain not see that gloves are the abolute minimum. Gravel rash on legs and arms will be agony but will be mostly fixed with skin grafts (eventually). However, in any fall our natural instinct is to put out our hands. Nerves cannot be replaced by grafts so all touch sensation is lost forever.

I don't believe most of them will be educated until it's too late and I guess even gloves are not seen as cool.

Maybe donate your stuff to a charity shop as they are very well frequented these days. I know I often find bargains.

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[jellywrestler]

Enforcement is always the problem with legislating things.

Politicians and bureaucrats think something is a great idea, when they have no idea how to practically enforce it.

Lets watch how many additional chases lead to injury and death because some disqualified or unlicenced motorcyclist who isn't wearing gloves get's the red/blues from Police. Who will be blamed when the chase ends in tears.

On the up side, this rule may lead to unlicensed and disqualified motorcyclists wearing gloves and hi-viz, to avoid being caught.

The unintended consequences of mandatory this and that can be interesting.

they could buy everyone on a motorcycle brand new moto gp quality gloves with the $30 they steal each and every year in the name of safety. don't object to paying, but not when less than 50cents of it actually used and there's no action by the organisation supposed to represent and fix shitty things for bikes.

[jellywrestler]

I've been in the motorcycle safety game for several decades.

In that time, I've collected several jackets, pairs of pants, various other gear. Some gets worn more than others.

I see people every day riding in shocking gear, shorts, t-shirts, that sort of thing. How do we get across to those people that ATGATT isn't just a vague notion, because asphalt isn't a snack.

I'd gladly donate some of my unused gear, if there was a mechanism to do that.

I know that my gear is used, but surely it's better than bugger all.

i've offered gear through facebook etc, there's usually someone starting out that would benefit for them, took me three days at two swpameets to give away a pair of boots for free

[Gremlin]

Been done on here before (ask for a hard lucky story rather than first in first served), or yeah, just put on local riding pages or something on Facebook. That's usually more FIFS, and might go to a cheap bugger rather than someone that really needs it.

[Berries]

If they can afford the bike and they can afford the petrol then they can afford the level of clothing that makes them happy. I have never ridden without gloves and yet I have never ridden in anything but a pair of basic jeans. Each to their own. I shake my head at those who wear less than me but then I do the same for the ATGATT zealots as well. I would just bin all the gear and stop worrying about it, or lose weight so you can use it again.


On a related note I see that Ausie are going to mandate hi Viz and gloves for motorcyclists.
And I shake my head at hi-viz as a rider aid. If it makes you feel safer then go for it but knowing the stats it won't do a bloody thing.

Don't see you coming towards them with your compulsory headlight on? Hi viz makes no difference
You or them fails to give way and you get T-boned? Not enough time for hi viz to make a difference
Get hit from behind? Well, statistically 87 percent of people wearing hi viz have rear panniers that hide it so will make little difference
Bouncing off the road on a bend when you go too fast for it? Well, the hi viz may help someone find you.

Being seen to be doing something but not actually doing anything. Same as over here.

PS - I made up the 87% figure.

[pete376403]

If they can afford the bike and they can afford the petrol then they can afford the level of clothing that makes them happy. I have never ridden without gloves and yet I have never ridden in anything but a pair of basic jeans. Each to their own. I shake my head at those who wear less than me but then I do the same for the ATGATT zealots as well. I would just bin all the gear and stop worrying about it, or lose weight so you can use it again.


And I shake my head at hi-viz as a rider aid. If it makes you feel safer then go for it but knowing the stats it won't do a bloody thing.

Don't see you coming towards them with your compulsory headlight on? Hi viz makes no difference
You or them fails to give way and you get T-boned? Not enough time for hi viz to make a difference
Get hit from behind? Well, statistically 87 percent of people wearing hi viz have rear panniers that hide it so will make little difference
Bouncing off the road on a bend when you go too fast for it? Well, the hi viz may help someone find you.

Being seen to be doing something but not actually doing anything. Same as over here.

PS - I made up the 87% figure.

If your panniers, down at leg level, hide the hi-vis jacket on your back, you must be built different to me. I found a plain white helmet seemed to make me more noticeable, especially on the old GS1100GK, possibly as I may have looked like a cop.

[BMWST?]

If your panniers, down at leg level, hide the hi-vis jacket on your back, you must be built different to me. I found a plain white helmet seemed to make me more noticeable, especially on the old GS1100GK, possibly as I may have looked like a cop.
I always try to get a helmet with a mostly white appearance if not white.

[mulletman]

Ive used this forum in the past to forward on gear last lot went to a student which he was super grateful.

[JimO]

i get up at 4am and do a 6k walk with the mongrel, every morning including through frosty dunedin winter a scooterist goes past with no gloves on, he's either superman or once his hands go numb he doesnt worry about it

[F5 Dave]

I would say cardboard box with 'FREE' written on it left at university bike park. Not sure they still have those. But they would qualify as poor and wanting better gear than currently have.
Though somehow my sister bought my first leather gloves (ones I had weren't) while she was at massey. Must ask her about that.

[jellywrestler]

i get up at 4am and do a 6k walk with the mongrel, every morning including through frosty dunedin winter a scooterist goes past with no gloves on, he's either superman or once his hands go numb he doesnt worry about it

gloves are the simplest of things, easy to stash in a brain bucket, can't understand why people ride without them really

[F5 Dave]

Back doing the instructing thing last century, I remember some clown wannabee biker showed up on a Hardly Ableson as he didn't have a licence . Said we could ignore the bigger than 250 for course but not the lack of gloves.
Said he needed the extra 'Feel' on controls.

Just go grab some gloves bud.
Never saw him again.

Guess he tells that story where he told The Man (volunteers) where to stick it. No one tells Big Nigel what to wear. Didn't need any riding training anyway.

[FLUB]

I would say cardboard box with 'FREE' written on it left at university bike park. Not sure they still have those. But they would qualify as poor and wanting better gear than currently have.
Though somehow my sister bought my first leather gloves (ones I had weren't) while she was at massey. Must ask her about that.No one takes "free". Put $10 and they will be taken (nicked). Has worked several times to get rid of junk at the roadside [emoji2]

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[neels]

Have you considered contacting one of the motorcycle training providers, they might be able to find a new home for your surplus gear.

I got rid of a pair of pants a while ago on bookface for a nominal fee (not free to reduce the number of idiots to deal with), they needed a new home as had shrunk while hanging in the garage not being used.

[F5 Dave]

That's not uncommon. Dusty (iconic Leda leathers) confirmed that to a mate. It happens.

[pete376403]

That's not uncommon. Dusty (iconic Leda leathers) confirmed that to a mate. It happens.

My Ledas (I believe the first one piece Dusty made) are in a box out in the shed. Will see how much they have shrunk over the 50 odd years Ive had them

[jellywrestler]

My Ledas (I believe the first one piece Dusty made) are in a box out in the shed. Will see how much they have shrunk over the 50 odd years Ive had them

if they are that's a cool bit of history, be cool to see them

[BMWST?]

That's not uncommon. Dusty (iconic Leda leathers) confirmed that to a mate. It happens.
Indeed I got a jacket made by Dusty. Many moons later i took it back and complained that it had shrunk in the wardrobe. He altered it,lamenting that he couldnt get the same quality leather that he used to. That jacket is in my avatar .I still have it

[F5 Dave]

I have mine.
And the one before that. I had to get a section put in the sides and arms as I bought it off a mate when I was a teenager.

Sold under a brand name, out riding so can't check, through Scooter centre as they did in the day.
Kept it for the wife as she had many layers of clothing.

Actually Pete I'm at Pieshop cafe and owners asked after you just as I type this and to say hi.

[pete376403]

if they are that's a cool bit of history, be cool to see them
Yeah I was racing solos at Te Marua at the time. Previously I had a one piece vinyl suit made by Thompsons in Palmerston north - looked ok but shredded pretty much the first time i came off. There was another place in Petone who was making leathers, not sure how I got onto Leda but he made them for $100. Blue bottom half, red top and white arms. There have been a few repairs done (patches to the left knee, replacement zip) in the 20 odd years I was racing but in the main they are still good, other than the lining all ripped. Still got the same boots and helmet bought at the same time - Ashmans "Red Devils" and Bell Star 120.
As far as being the first full suit, I recall hearing Dusty say this but, hearing and memory being what they were and are, could be wrong

[pete376403]

I have mine.
And the one before that. I had to get a section put in the sides and arms as I bought it off a mate when I was a teenager.

Sold under a brand name, out riding so can't check, through Scooter centre as they did in the day.
Kept it for the wife as she had many layers of clothing.

Actually Pete I'm at Pieshop cafe and owners asked after you just as I type this and to say hi.
Oh tell them thanks and there was no problem with the pie.:-)

[Berries]

I meant top box, not panniers. I don't use the terms often as I am a backpack man. Guess they will be next on the list...........