Hydration.

[BMWST?]

I am thinking of doing some longer rides,maybe a 800k or iron butt or even the tt2000. What do you guys do. A water bottle in a tank bag or a bladder and tube type thing.
We have to stop for fuel or a checkpoint any way so a bottle in the tank bag would be ok i my mind.

[F5 Dave]

You have to be careful as if it is easy in its not so easy out. You can easily drink more than you actually need if it is there.

Unless you fashion a football fan bicycle innertube onto the old fella run down your leg. Seems creepy. And prone to cutting circulation. :shit:

On dirtbike we wear camelback, but can always stop for a piss just about anywhere. Not as easy on the road.

Take a bottle and always consider a wee break at gas station.

[Gremlin]

You don't want to be dehydrated or over hydrated - as mentioned, too much, you have to stop.

You also want to keep your stops short. Stopped time is dead time, so don't make the mistake of doing it with someone who thinks a photo stop is a good time to take a ciggie break etc. All of a sudden you've lost 15min.

For me, it was hydrabaks and flip front helmet. Going slow through towns was a good time to lift the helmet, have a quick drink, drop the helmet on town exit and accelerate away. :yes:

[Hairymcsweary]

If you are looking at trying an 800km ride, have a look at this year's Chatto Creek ride details.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vxuB22DY2soGDLEUNQNBTpjTTnd9rFmrxB_rd94qgcI/edit?usp=sharing

I'll be riding my 10th TT2000 this year and have completed 24 IBA certified rides (48,751kms total distance) ranging from a simple 1600kms in less than 24 hours to 3000kms in less than 36 hours. When I first started out, I focused too much on getting on with the ride and brute forcing my body to cope. I changed my attitude a bit and forced myself to drink fluids at every opportunity and nowadays I keep a bottle of powerade in my tank bag and drink regularly. I use a flip up helmet so that can easily be done while riding. I see plenty of people use camel backs or dedicated hydration systems, it depends on how involved you get with long distance riding. Be wary though - its very addictive!

[BMWST?]

If you are looking at trying an 800km ride, have a look at this year's Chatto Creek ride details.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vxuB22DY2soGDLEUNQNBTpjTTnd9rFmrxB_rd94qgcI/edit?usp=sharing

I'll be riding my 10th TT2000 this year and have completed 24 IBA certified rides (48,751kms total distance) ranging from a simple 1600kms in less than 24 hours to 3000kms in less than 36 hours. When I first started out, I focused too much on getting on with the ride and brute forcing my body to cope. I changed my attitude a bit and forced myself to drink fluids at every opportunity and nowadays I keep a bottle of powerade in my tank bag and drink regularly. I use a flip up helmet so that can easily be done while riding. I see plenty of people use camel backs or dedicated hydration systems, it depends on how involved you get with long distance riding. Be wary though - its very addictive!

I am intruiged by the longer rides. I havent ridden for a while so i think I need to build up to it. I have plotted some routes for the last few TT2000s but its all theoretical. I dont know what my average speed would be or how i would cope say with riding for the best part of 24 hours virtually non stop.

[BMWST?]

If you are looking at trying an 800km ride, have a look at this year's Chatto Creek ride details.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vxuB22DY2soGDLEUNQNBTpjTTnd9rFmrxB_rd94qgcI/edit?usp=sharing

I'll be riding my 10th TT2000 this year and have completed 24 IBA certified rides (48,751kms total distance) ranging from a simple 1600kms in less than 24 hours to 3000kms in less than 36 hours. When I first started out, I focused too much on getting on with the ride and brute forcing my body to cope. I changed my attitude a bit and forced myself to drink fluids at every opportunity and nowadays I keep a bottle of powerade in my tank bag and drink regularly. I use a flip up helmet so that can easily be done while riding. I see plenty of people use camel backs or dedicated hydration systems, it depends on how involved you get with long distance riding. Be wary though - its very addictive!
this year?? its says 2021??

[Hairymcsweary]

this year?? its says 2021??

Oops, was so excited to post something I selected the wrong link, this is this year's.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UvSKsggYwH6tFTOHJU-_P6zWsqL49RpndDW_NUNhJpY/edit?usp=sharing

The first link was from when I reintroduced the event.

[Hairymcsweary]

I am intruiged by the longer rides. I havent ridden for a while so i think I need to build up to it. I have plotted some routes for the last few TT2000s but its all theoretical. I dont know what my average speed would be or how i would cope say with riding for the best part of 24 hours virtually non stop.

The average speed required for a standard 1600kms/24 hrs is only 66.6 kms/hr. The secret to long distance riding is not how fast you go, but rather how you reduce dead time.
These are some of the things I've done that have allowed me to complete 2000kms in less than 24 hours 7 times officially.
- Increase fuel range. The longest stop you have is refueling. I put a 30L Safari tank on my Tiger to increase my range to 500kms.
- Use a modular helmet. I never remove my helmet if the stop is going to be less than 15 mins, this also allows me to eat and drink while riding so fuel stops are shorter
- Using slow zones. This may be more of "feeling" rather than maths based - but if I have to stop for something unplanned - plug something in, clean crap of visor or whatever - I will do it in a 50km zone if i can. I'm sure there is going to be some maths that prove this wrong, but I work on the theory that if I'm off the bike and not moving and it take 4 mins, I only lost 4 mins at 50km/h rather than 4 mins at 100km/h. The game is distance versus time not speed.
- Avoid humans. I always try to use a fuel stop where I can use a card machine and not have to deal with people. There's nothing worse than being in a queue at a counter and you just want to pay for fuel and depart but you have to wait for the idiot in front who forgot their PIN or want to change a drink choice etc. During the TT2000 I rarely talk to someone at a check point, its just get the photo and go - 60 seconds is all you need.

[BMWST?]

The average speed required for a standard 1600kms/24 hrs is only 66.6 kms/hr. The secret to long distance riding is not how fast you go, but rather how you reduce dead time.
These are some of the things I've done that have allowed me to complete 2000kms in less than 24 hours 7 times officially.
- Increase fuel range. The longest stop you have is refueling. I put a 30L Safari tank on my Tiger to increase my range to 500kms.
- Use a modular helmet. I never remove my helmet if the stop is going to be less than 15 mins, this also allows me to eat and drink while riding so fuel stops are shorter
- Using slow zones. This may be more of "feeling" rather than maths based - but if I have to stop for something unplanned - plug something in, clean crap of visor or whatever - I will do it in a 50km zone if i can. I'm sure there is going to be some maths that prove this wrong, but I work on the theory that if I'm off the bike and not moving and it take 4 mins, I only lost 4 mins at 50km/h rather than 4 mins at 100km/h. The game is distance versus time not speed.
- Avoid humans. I always try to use a fuel stop where I can use a card machine and not have to deal with people. There's nothing worse than being in a queue at a counter and you just want to pay for fuel and depart but you have to wait for the idiot in front who forgot their PIN or want to change a drink choice etc. During the TT2000 I rarely talk to someone at a check point, its just get the photo and go - 60 seconds is all you need.

all good info thanks.

[SaferRides]

The average speed required for a standard 1600kms/24 hrs is only 66.6 kms/hr. The secret to long distance riding is not how fast you go, but rather how you reduce dead time.
These are some of the things I've done that have allowed me to complete 2000kms in less than 24 hours 7 times officially.

- Using slow zones. This may be more of "feeling" rather than maths based - but if I have to stop for something unplanned - plug something in, clean crap of visor or whatever - I will do it in a 50km zone if i can. I'm sure there is going to be some maths that prove this wrong, but I work on the theory that if I'm off the bike and not moving and it take 4 mins, I only lost 4 mins at 50km/h rather than 4 mins at 100km/h. The game is distance versus time not speed.


You must have known someone would take issue with this...

4 minutes is 4 minutes added to the journey time, wherever you stop. But one advantage is it's quicker to stop and start because you're going slower, plus it's much easier to find somewhere safe and well lit (at night) in an urban area.

Congrats on doing endurance events. Not something I could ever do.

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[BMWST?]

on the Gs rallye I had a small backpack and i carried a 750? ml bottle.After about 2 hours i stopped in Whanganui and had a few mouthfuls. Later in the afternoon I was feeling quite thirsty but I didnt stop till hunterville at 3 pm where I drank the rest of the bottle. Didnt have a leak all day. Probably should have thought to drink something where I ran off the road into roadside ditch and required a few helpers to help me out. Probably did not drink enough,it was relatively cool.

[SaferRides]

This gets more complicated with age as your sense of thirst diminishes. It is important to drink proactively, in other words, before you feel that you need to.

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[nzspokes]

on the Gs rallye I had a small backpack and i carried a 750? ml bottle.After about 2 hours i stopped in Whanganui and had a few mouthfuls. Later in the afternoon I was feeling quite thirsty but I didnt stop till hunterville at 3 pm where I drank the rest of the bottle. Didnt have a leak all day. Probably should have thought to drink something where I ran off the road into roadside ditch and required a few helpers to help me out. Probably did not drink enough,it was relatively cool.

I would suggest 500ml an hour at least.

I got caught up on the GS rallye, was a bit of a mess. Was glad to bounce out at Hunterville.

[BMWST?]

I would suggest 500ml an hour at least.

I got caught up on the GS rallye, was a bit of a mess. Was glad to bounce out at Hunterville.

Yes that last leg before Huntervillw was a marathon,included that toughest part too imho

[Moise]

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