what are NZ coppers like

[wil]

i imagine everyone will have their own opinion on this but on a whole, are they fair or biker unfriendly.

[scumdog]

i imagine everyone will have their own opinion on this but on a whole, are they fair or biker unfriendly.

MOST are pretty biker friendly BUT on this site you're bound to hear of any are are NOT biker friendly from the people that had the unfortunate experience of meeting them. (normally backed up by a loud chorus from the raa-raa crew that put in their 2 cents worth everytime.)

[avgas]

NZ cops are good, but there are some jocks in that industry like any profession.
NZ government sucks ponies, they are the ones in charge of the quota systems

[DEATH_INC.]

Agreed.I'm one of the one's that seems to attract the arseholes of the profession,but I've met a few good 'uns amoungst 'em too.
I really think company policy has had a largely negative effect on the way they behave and the sort of people the profession now attracts.
Scumdog,you gotta remember that some of us grew up in the days when you'd get sprung for acting up(within reason of course) and the boys would just give you a kick up the rear and send you home.It doesn't seem to happen anymore.

[marty]

here's another one of our locals >>> http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=19322

[motelbob]

In 30yrs of driving/riding and being pulled over, Ive only come across one right bastard. What a prick he was. 99% of N.Z coppers are good as gold.

[James Deuce]

They're bred in clone vats and all of them look like Temuera Morrison.

They have a "Rhetorical Copper Questions" chip inserted at about 5 years of age, and are trained at a facilty that is painted baby poo yellow.

NAh, like everyone says they're pretty good. I got stopped at 5 checkpoints on the way back from dropping my brother-in-law at the airport, all between 4am and 5am. By the time I hit the last one I was a bit tetchy, but the bloke who stopped me at the last one sensed my grumpiness immediately and engaged a charm offensive. It was impressively done.

[TonyB]

Scumdog,you gotta remember that some of us grew up in the days when you'd get sprung for acting up(within reason of course) and the boys would just give you a kick up the rear and send you home.It doesn't seem to happen anymore.
And of course after receiving your warning you saw the error of your ways and never did it again.... :whistle:

[Virago]

But whay exactly attracts people to join the police force?

I've got a lot of respect for our boys (and girls) in blue, it's a job I would definately not want to do myself. I've met more than a few myself, and the vast majority are really nice people. :Police:

However, I've never taken the time to ask any about their professional motivation, perhaps we all should? I would imagine they these guys get great personal satisfaction from helping people, and making our society a safer place.

But in any society there will always be a small percentage of the population that gain a sadistic pleasure from controlling and bullying others. :bash: A controversial theory perhaps, but maybe these rat-bags are attracted to police work, and can be found in noticably higher proportions among the police force than in the population in general? :scratch:

[Biff]

Compared to UK cops - in general, they're pretty cool Wil. Providing that he's not having a bad moustache day (seriously dude - you've never seen so many 70s porn star moustachos in your life), you're polite, and haven't been a complete pleb, there is a chance you'll get off with a warning.

[scooterboynz]

as long as you are not being a complete twat they mostly seem like a nice bunch

[Coyote]

Compared to UK cops - in general, they're pretty cool Wil. Providing that he's not having a bad moustache day (seriously dude - you've never seen so many 70s porn star moustachos in your life), you're polite, and haven't been a complete pleb, there is a chance you'll get off with a warning.
I was polite and I was only a bit over the limit, still got the ticket though

All the cops I've come across have been nice people. Haven't met an aggressive/dickhead type one yet and hope I don't

[stocky]

from my experiences with the law they are generally pretty good guys and assholes when its called for but thats cause u've been a naughty boy haha
but when ur in the right they are fair and reasonable.. just a little slack at times but i guess thats because the huge amount of crime and under staffed etc..

bikey cop have u ever had a cager try to outrun u on ur bike? chance of him actually gettin away would pretty slim if i assume correctly??

[inlinefour]

But there are the minority that give the rest a bad name for the rest. Also if your dumb enough to give them attitude, then expect to recieve it back...

[myvice]

I bitch about them but most of the cops I'v met are ok.
Still guna have a cry when I get caught tho! :crybaby:

[scumdog]

Scumdog,you gotta remember that some of us grew up in the days when you'd get sprung for acting up(within reason of course) and the boys would just give you a kick up the rear and send you home.It doesn't seem to happen anymore.

Huh! Try that today and it's PCA, private prosecutions, etc etc!!
And the little shits know their 'rights' - and a lot of parents are of the "no, no not my son John" mentallity which the little shits hide behind.
BTW I'm of the age group you mentioned and man, if I got a kick up the arse the next big worry was the kick I would get from the old man when I got home!

[Patrick]

Scumdog,you gotta remember that some of us grew up in the days when you'd get sprung for acting up(within reason of course) and the boys would just give you a kick up the rear and send you home.It doesn't seem to happen anymore.

All because mommys and daddys think their little shitbag can do no wrong and they complain and have you up for assault! Aaaahhhhh....... the good old days....gotta polish my own boots now with boot polish and brush instead... Still, get the odd parent who invites you to do so and when you politely refuse, do it themselves, usually harder too.....Aaaaahhhhhh.... the good old days....

[Patrick]

Huh! Try that today and it's PCA, private prosecutions, etc etc!!
And the little shits know their 'rights' - and a lot of parents are of the "no, no not my son John" mentallity which the little shits hide behind.
BTW I'm of the age group you mentioned and man, if I got a kick up the arse the next big worry was the kick I would get from the old man when I got home!


Hahahaha beat me to it Scum... :niceone:

[ManDownUnder]

Huh! Try that today and it's PCA, private prosecutions, etc etc!!
And the little shits know their 'rights' - and a lot of parents are of the "no, no not my son John" mentallity which the little shits hide behind.
BTW I'm of the age group you mentioned and man, if I got a kick up the arse the next big worry was the kick I would get from the old man when I got home!

Shame we've gone away from those day really. I'd have no worries with my kids getting a right footed attitudinal adjustment where it's warranted.

[Big Dave]

My dealings with NZ police have been pleasant enough - even when getting ticketed. They listened as i pleaded my case and i got some split decisions (warnings).

I think they are initially more 'assertive' than their Aussie counterparts - probably to make up for the lack of a cannon that the aussies have strapped to their waists.

[kerryg]

Coppers in parts of the majotr cities in particular deal with pond-scum low-life trailer-park human detritus on an hourly basis...I think it'd be surprising if they didn't have the odd bad moustache day. Mostly (not all) they're reasonable jokers doing a difficult job.

[madboy]

I haven't experienced any of the overseas coppers to compare them too. I like the idea that they are generally not armed, and don't seem to have the dumbass attitude you see on the American reality cop shows.

When it comes to traffic I seem to attract more than my fair share of dipshits who really don't like it when you start asking pointed questions. I've not once had an officer who has been able to answer the "How are you contributing to road safety right now?" question without launching into the speed kills hypocrisy. But that's probably more just them expressing company policy rather than individual thought. And since I'm not allowed to express individual thought at work (where it contradicts the company), I can understand why they're not allowed to either.

I've got to give them credit where it's due, most outside of traffic are pretty good in my experience. And most of the traffic guys (and girls) are smart enough to leave a 600cc sportsbike alone, no matter what. But you get the odd one who seems up for a whipping... why they bother I don't know?!

On balance, I think the NZ cops are pretty good.

[Lou Girardin]

I really have an issue with Police policies rather than individuals, although we seem to be getting some really dumb cops lately. Maybe there are some changes in the wind. (he says hopefully)
The cops I've known, I liked. But then I'd like them whatever job they do.

[DMNTD]

Like most others I generally have no problems with the coppa's.
Sure there have been wankers but there are wankers everywhere out there.

Just got back from a ride through from Whangarei to Dargaville and back.
Got stuck behind an unmarked D car but he gladly cruised between 120-140 on there way over. Yep I was a little shocked but it was an open road with no traffic and safe conditions.
Just goes to show not all are anal buggers with an attitude :niceone:

[Beemer]

Some are really great and some are real arseholes - pretty much the same as any profession! I've been given warnings by some great cops who could easily have given me a ticket, and I've also had tickets from some nasty pieces of work where a warning would have sufficed.

They don't seem to be vindictive and I've not experienced any trouble (only one ticket) on the bike - I certainly think some cops hate bikes, but I don't get the feeling they are out to get every biker, more that they are less likely to tolerate any indiscretions if they see them.

[Jantar]

I have met many cops, both socially, and on the road. The great majority are just normal people and are absolutely fair. Like in any profession though, there are a few who give a bad name to the others.

It does appear that those few who aren't up to scratch congregate in particular areas, and I suspect, but have little evidence, that they are being driven by their senior sergents to concentrate on traffic infringements rather than other incidents.

generally, cops in NZ can be trusted to be fair in all circumstances.

[wil]

thats good to know, not that i am a law breaker, coppers over here just attack the easy targets motorcyclists and car drivers, as it mean they dont have to do anything and it keeps the figures up.

[Toast]

Agree with most of the above...95% really good guys, but company policy and quota system means they have to ticket for some seriously harmless bullshit...haven't they got unions or anything to stand up to this crap and insist on being able to focus on upholding safety rather than enforcing laws?

Problem is you never know which one you're gonna get, so have to act like an asshole to avoid the possibility of getting a bad one.