Discussing accidents

[Firefight]

Do not intend to get into the whole who's right and who's wrong thing here.

We have always had a bit of an unwritten rule about bins, normally no one posts story or pics till the person who bins has owned up, okay if there in a bad way we try to wait till family are informed.(as said not always practical).

Of course because its unwritten, how do newer and well meaning kbers know about it,well I guess they don't ! our bad

This is not about censorship ,just thinking about others, and yeah ok as I said if you don,t know how do you know if it's "Not the done thing"

I have known Jimmy, (White Trash ) for a while,(one of my few good mates) he's done a lot for kb and is in IMHO a bloody well respected member of KB...

I have not met (been introduced)or ridden with the other Jim (Blackyossi), I seen him around,, I have heard glowing reports about what a good ride he puts on and how he takes care of those who ride with him, both on the ride and at the after match fuction.(very much like a number of other kbers)

Both of these guys seem to have the best interst of KB in their hearts !!

Both of these guys seem to have a good following of kb mates, who are willing to jump to their defence.... that's cool...to a point

But we don't need this shit slinging and abuse, with new members comes a new dynamic, nothing wrong with that, just try to understand our funny ways, we for our part should try to adapt with you guys,

I don't expect everyone to agree with each other, but let's try to cut down the abuse..and try to understand the other point of view.


F/F

[Sniper]

Hear hear. Well said FF

[mattt]

Well put Dave - and a must read for any newbie members.

[SixPackBack]

FireFight for El Presidente...........:not:

[pyrocam]

FireFight for El Presidente...........:not:
good call spb
good call ff

[DMNTD]

Heard ya and archived. :niceone:
Perhaps a sticky thread for new members to be able to read so we don't balls up could go down well...wouldn't hurt anyways.
Can be a bit difficult joining a forum like this and trying to work its dynamics without piss'n someone off. :psst:
Your guys call,I'm just a mere new bloke :mellow:

[Slingshot]

I have known Jimmy, (White Trash ) for a while,(one of my few good mates) he's done a lot for kb and is in IMHO a bloody well respected member of KB...

I have not met (been introduced)or ridden with the other Jim (Blackyossi), I seen him around,, I have heard glowing reports about what a good ride he puts on and how he takes care of those who ride with him, both on the ride and at the after match fuction.(very much like a number of other kbers)

Both of these guys seem to have the best interst of KB in their hearts !!

Both of these guys seem to have a good following of kb mates, who are willing to jump to their defence.... that's cool...to a point

Have I missed something here....what's this bit about?

[sunhuntin]

Have I missed something here....what's this bit about?

thats what i was wonderin....

[Marmoot]

some guy binned, some guys talk, and the others cried foul.
Just the usual...
Only this time we decided to make it a little more spectacular. Slow days, you see? :mellow:

Anyways, if your hand is really itchy then probably you can post bin if you really need to, but might not want to name the rider until everything is clear? Y'know...."PM me for further details" and such. Just my 2c.

[Toast]

I know that you said you don't wanna get in to a shit fight about right and wrong...but can it be avoided? If you just say "it's the way we do things around here", then it's promoting the kind of thinking proven in the "Monkey Experiment" (involving a stack of bananas, some sprinklers, if you don't know of it I can explain)...i.e. don't think, just follow tradition...reminds me of boarding school.

When someone (Yoshi) who cares about a dude (dss3, not in a touchy way I'm sure), posts on the forum to let others who give a toss about dss3's safety and well being know he's in a difficult situation, what's wrong with that? Maybe if the guy who binned is super sensitive, then spreading it would be a bad thing, but dss3 seems like a pretty chilled dude who would take this kind of thing in his stride, and who may appreciate the genuine concern of others about his well-being.

The point of this post is that etiquette and rules should still have to stand up to reason. If the older members can articulately explain why it is wrong in a controlled manner, rather than entering a slanging match with the weapons of choice being "you're a dick", "you're a cunt", "come here, I'll smash you", etc. We might all be a bitter and wiser for it.

[James Deuce]

The point of this post is that etiquette and rules should still have to stand up to reason. If the older members can articulately explain why it is wrong in a controlled manner, rather than entering a slanging match with the weapons of choice being "you're a dick", "you're a cunt", "come here, I'll smash you", etc. We might all be a bitter and wiser for it.

I'm afraid some relative newbies have already entered into a slanging match and a bunch of people have assumed incorrectly which crash is under discussion.

A word to the wise: don't post crash data or photos while people are still in A&E. I've had bitter experience of ringing someone to say so & so is in the ambo, concious & lucid, and then having to attend a funeral a week later.

[sunhuntin]

ok, now im sorta up to speed. basically dont post if you dont know theyd want it everywhere. im guessing this doesnt apply to ones own bin? lol. respect others and let them tell the story.

[FzerozeroT]

A word to the wise: don't post crash data or photos while people are still in A&E. I've had bitter experience of ringing someone to say so & so is in the ambo, concious & lucid, and then having to attend a funeral a week later.

Same type of thing, luckily he just ened up bruised and dazed, but remember that a lot of "other halves" are just waiting to be proven right how dangerous bikes are and if they find out through the grapevine before he/she gets home in one piece it makes it a lot harder on the poor crash-ee.

[Hitcher]

Abuse? I go away for two weeks and the place decends to abuse? You chasps really must learn to play nicely.

[SPORK]

Abuse? I go away for two weeks and the place decends to abuse? You chasps really must learn to play nicely.
Yuss Hitcher is back!

[jrandom]

You chasps...

what, they're lettnig the chasps in now?

standards are *right* down.

[Hitcher]

what, they're lettnig the chasps in now?
I was trying to avert the ire of Wayne Mapp MP...

[Paul in NZ]

We don't let chaps in here...

Especially the sort with fringes... (the fringe element)

No, it's proper riding pants or nothing...

[Swoop]

Gudday there Firefight and others!
As a newby on the KB site I noticed that there wasn't a post from anyone under 230(ish) posts putting up a comment. As a real novice here :not: , there is obviously a set of "rules" and another of "unwritten rules" :psst: so I imagine ther is plenty of potential for the newer members to put their feet in their mouths (something I do on a regular basis... :crybaby: ).
Is there a "better" set of do's and don'ts anywhere around here???
:done:

[madboy]

As a newby on the KB site I noticed that there wasn't a post from anyone under 230(ish) posts putting up a comment. As a real novice here :not: , there is obviously a set of "rules" and another of "unwritten rules" :psst:
Is there a "better" set of do's and don'ts anywhere around here???
:done:On a slight sidetrack, Scumdog (a well respected member) posted some time ago on the typical KB posting topics.. from memory it went something like:
1. Newbie binned it
2. F***ing pigs
3. Squid binned it
4. F***ing Highway patrol
5. Seeking advice on new bike
6. F***ing ticket
7. I just bought a...
8. Awesome ride...
9. F***ing awesome runner today
10. Newbie binned it on Awesome Ride (see post 8)

and so it went on. Very easy to put foot in mouth around here. We've all done it.

[justsomeguy]

Gudday there Firefight and others!
As a newby on the KB site I noticed that there wasn't a post from anyone under 230(ish) posts putting up a comment. As a real novice here :not: , there is obviously a set of "rules" and another of "unwritten rules" :psst: so I imagine ther is plenty of potential for the newer members to put their feet in their mouths (something I do on a regular basis... :crybaby: ).
Is there a "better" set of do's and don'ts anywhere around here???
:done:

Basically if it's none of your business don't post accident info, avoid paparazzi like behaviour, this isn't a tabloid.

If you organised the event or were DIRECTLY involved then you can make some general comments to reassure others. E.g: "We had a bit of an off today, I'll let the person concerned (no names necessary) fill you in when he/she is up to it."

It is only up to the person who crashed and their fly to go into details => Thier life, their bike, their business.

[Swoop]

Cheers guys. Sounds like fairly simple common sense is required. I will go and wash my feet though... they taste better that way :blip:

[FROSTY]

Just a little aside -or perhaps on point from FF's comment.
NOT relating to any crash in particular
Talking on here or to the HP about a crash could jepardise the rider in questions licence and or possible insurance claim.
I would NEVER suggest telling lies --I would strongly suggest we keep our mouths shut.
If the rider in question chooses to share their experience fine but otherwise --zippo

[roger_doger]

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[Colapop]

Cheers guys. Sounds like fairly simple common sense is required. I will go and wash my feet though... they taste better that way :blip:

It's fairly straightforward. You get involved, talk some shit, give some people some shit, help out where you can and be part of the assylum BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha .... ahahaha ... aaa ...

Erm uh yeah and just keep up and you'll be fine.

[Unit]

Always good to remind ourselves and inform others, like doing revision really, I wasnt too good at homework, Im sure everyone will take your point like grown adults. Well, we live in hope. We all want to enjoy what the site has to offer at the end of the day.

[Good Girl]

Have I missed something here....what's this bit about?
:shake: Instigator

[Sniper]

:shake: Instigator

Ahh yes, lest we forget. An example of those who post one word answers with no meaning after the post has simmered down........

[Good Girl]

Ahh yes, lest we forget. An example of those who post one word answers with no meaning after the post has simmered down........
The impression I get from yiou is that you have alot of time to spend on kiwi biker thought am finding now that you make time :yes:

I'm just a new bee, gotta give the girl a chance -

Whatch out :bash:

[dawnrazor]

Without making a big deal of this and getting it blown out of all proportion. I found the two "sticky" threads associatied with 'inline4' and his accident yesterday.

One reason for this was because they where in the "rant'n'rave" forum, a forum reserved for "NON-BIKER" related topics and general nonsense.

This seems to be a huge lack of respect upon KB's point of view that such serious threads are relagated to the "non biker forum", regardless of the fact they are sticky. Surely they should be moved to GENERAL. which most people would consider the most popular forum. These people sound like they will need as much help as they can get in the future, something that won't happen if people don't know they need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joni]

Dawnrasor I appreciate your concern, however there are certain rules the forum works on with regards to layout... We cant just put a thread in GB because you feel its the most poular forum.

I am not feeling very well, and will write more later today.

[The Stranger]

Basically if it's none of your business don't post accident info, avoid paparazzi like behaviour, this isn't a tabloid.

If you organised the event or were DIRECTLY involved then you can make some general comments to reassure others. E.g: "We had a bit of an off today, I'll let the person concerned (no names necessary) fill you in when he/she is up to it."

It is only up to the person who crashed and their fly to go into details => Thier life, their bike, their business.


Hey, who has hijacked JSG's account?

[slimjim]

Basically if it's none of your business don't post accident info, avoid paparazzi like behaviour, this isn't a tabloid.

If you organised the event or were DIRECTLY involved then you can make some general comments to reassure others. E.g: "We had a bit of an off today, I'll let the person concerned (no names necessary) fill you in when he/she is up to it."

It is only up to the person who crashed and their fly to go into details => Thier life, their bike, their business.

yes as i wondered if inline4 had wanted his accident to be knowen, well at least, till he was aware of the degree of injury he had incuded, however posted well wishes as the rest of the family had done, however, somethings are wanted to be keeped quiet, personal choice , however sometimes this is taking away by friend's thinking they have your best wish's at heart

[Joni]

My 2 cents - I think people on KB should remember that accidents bring up strong emotions from both the people involved and their families - people should respect peoples privacy and their families space in a time when things can be very trying (There have been times when people have passed away when members of KB have really put the foot in it). Yes you might be close to the person and be very concerned, but 95% of us wont be in the family "circle" so to speak.

Yes support and well wishes are great (and can be very helpfull), but I feel there is a time and place for everything.

When Stonechucker was taken to hospital - his Mum was inundated by phone calls etc when she did not even know if he would make it or not, it was a bombardment that could have waited for a few hours or a day or so...

People should pace themselves and keep the word "respect" in mind.

[Toaster]

It's fairly straightforward. You get involved, talk some shit, give some people some shit, help out where you can and be part of the assylum BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha .... ahahaha ... aaa ...

Erm uh yeah and just keep up and you'll be fine.

Good on ya... nicely put dude.