Fireworks - Home made bomb - explosion: 4/11/05

[crashe]

The Fire service, Ambo's and Police have enough to do without having to go and pick up the pieces of the idiots out there, who make home made bombs for fireworks.
Now ACC will be also picking up the bill for this idiot as well.
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NZ Police CommCens Alert 21:00 4-11-2005 Auckland City

Location of incident: Waiheke Island

Incident Type: Man seriously injured in bomb making explosion

Just after 7 pm tonight emergency services were called to a report of an explosion at a house on Waiheke Island. When they arrived they found a 20 year old man with serious injuries to his hand. He was taken to hospital by helicopter. An investigation revealled evidence of attempts to make pipe bombs from the contents of a large quantity of fireworks.
It was initially feared that the injured man would loose his hand, however it is believed that the loss will be limited to two or three fingers. Police enquiries are continuing.


Issued by: Inspector Andrew Brill

[SuperDave]

Hahaha. What a loser. - Edit: Screw that bastard for wasting the 20% of my wage I pay to the goverment despite me being a full time secondary school student.

[SARGE]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... pussy.. PIPE BOMB?? shit man.. bring his ass over here and ill show him how to improvise some munitions with shit from the kitchen and shed

[N4CR]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... pussy.. PIPE BOMB?? shit man.. bring his ass over here and ill show him how to improvise some munitions with shit from the kitchen and shed

Exactly. Fireworks explosive is a bit pathetic really for that kinda stuff nowadays. Flash powder is even better again (what they used to use in the TRUE old m60's etc) but you have to make it yourself to get decent amounts and strengths.

[Gremlin]

If he was smart enough to blow off his own fingers, do you really think he would be smart enough to choose the right explosives??

On the other hand, if he blew off his own fingers with fireworks, imagine how much he could have achieved with proper explosives... :no:

Perhaps its best we let him play with only himself... given time, he won't have much left anyway... :mellow:

[SARGE]

If he was smart enough to blow off his own fingers, do you really think he would be smart enough to choose the right explosives??

On the other hand, if he blew off his own fingers with fireworks,..........




on the OTHER HAND.. he has 4 fingers and a thumb... :whistle:

[redbaron36]

I am with your superdave on this one why does the tax payer have to pay for this guys stupid antics.
Guy had no common sense or something maybe minus a finger or two it can help him think more carefully in future.
Still a bit on the funny side ain't it

[Aucker]

He'll regret that act of stupidity for the rest of his life....theres so much you can't do with only 2 fingers and a stump! :doctor:

"Grandad, how did you lose your 3 fingers?"

[Sniper]

All I can say is........... What a pussy.

Im with Sarge, give me half an hour and some "special Ingredients" and I'll put all those professinal fireworks to shame......... :whistle:

[SARGE]

All I can say is........... What a pussy.

Im with Sarge, give me half an hour and some "special Ingredients" and I'll put all those professinal fireworks to shame......... :whistle:


gasoline, vasoline, wax and.............:whistle:

[Sniper]

gasoline, vasoline, wax and.............:whistle:

I never used those, Im thinking of bleach, saltpeter, a couple of iron filings and other things that shall not be named on a public forum........ :whistle:

[MacD]

I am with your superdave on this one why does the tax payer have to pay for this guys stupid antics.


For the same reason that ACC pays for guys who do stupid shit on bikes...

...but that's OK I guess?

[thehollowmen]

oh crap, work just assploded too

yay for everything assploding!

[SuperDave]

For the same reason that ACC pays for guys who do stupid shit on bikes...

...but that's OK I guess?

I would say that fucking around with explosives carry a much higher rate of injury than riding. Everyone knows that riding/driving on the road has its dangers hence we pay ACC levies to help us out if the shit hits the fan.

How many of us that have crashed here have needed to be airlifted to hospital after an accident? That costs a shitload of money. I'm pretty sure that every time someone trying to make bombs out of fireworks messes up they end up needing expensive hopsital treatment.

[crazyxr250rider]

Ussless bastard.He should go back to vinegar and baking soda.......

[myvice]

Waiheke? I lived there for 7 years! Blow the whole frkn island up and kill them befor they spread!
He wont be wanking for a while...

[pyrocam]

its crazy. I mean. this internet thing has loads of crap all strewn over it. like this dickhead
http://www.members.lycos.nl/pyrocorp/pyrocorp_online/anar666.htm

[thehollowmen]

I deny everything
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/bulletins/radionz/200511051059/166bd888

[thehollowmen]

its crazy. I mean. this internet thing has loads of crap all strewn over it. like this dickhead
http://www.members.lycos.nl/pyrocorp/pyrocorp_online/anar666.htm

Yeah that is so flawed I think it must have been put out there to try and remove stupid people from the gene pool

[Timber020]

He probably either was using threaded pipe and got some powder stuck between the threads as he was screwing it down or he was using soft pipe and crushed it while folding the ends. Classic noob thing to do.

[Ixion]

The Anarchist Cookbook was always a fraud. Useless. Very disappointed I was. And for decent bombs, if you must use firecracker gunpowder (there are much better materials), you need to recorn it to a larger grain size. Wet it down, rub it through a coarse seive and dry it. (Bit more complicated than that but that the idea). and , as said by Mr Timber020, don't scrunch it anyhow.

[John]

yea its fucken hilarious, fucken little shits hope their dicks fall off, some little fucks threw some homemade fucken shit at my bike while I was traveling at a fair speed, fuck they were lucky I couldnt stop in time, because that would have been another fucken ambo call out by absent minded little shits that think they are the fucken next black fucken rapper fuck.

[James Deuce]

fickity fuckity

Are you a script writer for Deadwood?

[SPORK]

yea its fucken hilarious, fucken little shits hope their dicks fall off, some little fucks threw some homemade fucken shit at my bike while I was traveling at a fair speed, fuck they were lucky I couldnt stop in time, because that would have been another fucken ambo call out by absent minded little shits that think they are the fucken next black fucken rapper fuck.
FUCK!?!?!!?

[John]

Are you a script writer for Deadwood?
FUCK YES

and on that note, what the fuck happened to that fucken shit its not on fucken prime anymore, bet it was those network fucks been fucked by the soccer mum... fucks... or sumin... FUCK?!

[James Deuce]

ROFLMAO....

[SPORK]

ROFLMAO....
Oh my gosh, Jim2 has succumbed to net-sp33k.

W3rd.

[parsley]

He'll regret that act of stupidity for the rest of his life....theres so much you can't do with only 2 fingers and a stump! :doctor:
I hope his girlfriend's really tight.

[Skyryder]

on the OTHER HAND.. he has 4 fingers and a thumb... :whistle:

Or is forefingers??

Skyryder

[crashe]

I heard a young kid lost a eye last night...
cos he lent over the firework and BOOM right into his face

plus he had parental supervision....

[pyrocam]

I heard a young kid lost a eye last night...
cos he lent over the firework and BOOM right into his face

plus he had parental supervision....

i didnt loose it. i should regain vision in a few weeks

[Timber020]

No mate, your not getting your vision back because of that other thing that you do that your mother always told you would make you go blind.

(says he with a brail keyboard) :blink:

[SARGE]

I heard a young kid lost a eye last night...
cos he lent over the firework and BOOM right into his face

plus he had parental supervision....



yea ... its all fun and games till someone loses an eye....



:whistle:

[avgas]

what am amature - geez man, if you want to make bombs ask someone who knows what they are doing.
Plus who the f holds on to their bombs? bloody hell

[Lou Girardin]

As an aside, who's had a gutsfull of Guy Fawkes?
I was dead set against banning private sales, but after 2 weeks (and counting) of mindless fuckwits letting the Goddamn things off till 10 or 11 at night, I'm thoroughly over it.
Ain't it always the truth that a cretinous few spoil it for everyone.

[crashe]

As an aside, who's had a gutsfull of Guy Fawkes?
I was dead set against banning private sales, but after 2 weeks (and counting) of mindless fuckwits letting the Goddamn things off till 10 or 11 at night, I'm thoroughly over it.
Ain't it always the truth that a cretinous few spoil it for everyone.

Me, I am.

Sick of the BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM night after night til after 1am on some nights.

Just how many kids will miss out at xmas time cos the parents spent so much on fireworks.

How many millions of dollars was spent this year on the fireworks as well.

[*sic]

that dudes awesome.

i love him

[Ixion]

I like Guy Fawkes and the fireworks. Don't be old and boring, have fun. New Zealand has become wowser paradise these days.

[tracyprier]

Me, I am.

Sick of the BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM night after night til after 1am on some nights.

Just how many kids will miss out at xmas time cos the parents spent so much on fireworks.

How many millions of dollars was spent this year on the fireworks as well.
Yep. Had it 'round our way for well over a week now and if last year is anything to go by it will carry on for ages. One night would be fine but f@#k me, this starts getting into the realms of sleep deprivation!

[ManDownUnder]

It'd be the perfect night to shoot someone though wouldn't it?

You could just take 'em out with a rifle any old time - no-one would even question it...

[Lou Girardin]

I like Guy Fawkes and the fireworks. Don't be old and boring, have fun. New Zealand has become wowser paradise these days.

Me two.
But I don't want three weeks of it starting at 6.00AM and continuing till 10.00PM If people don't want it banned they should try a little moderation and common sense.

[Ixion]

Me two.
But I don't want three weeks of it starting at 6.00AM and continuing till 10.00PM If people don't want it banned they should try a little moderation and common sense.


But, but, but, Mrs Ixion makes me come inside at 10pm. I can't go any later.

[Karma]

It'd be the perfect night to shoot someone though wouldn't it?

You could just take 'em out with a rifle any old time - no-one would even question it...


And if anyone said anything you'd be like...


um...


It's a really small fireworks dispenser. That's it. Like a little rocket.

[Ixion]

It'd be the perfect night to shoot someone though wouldn't it?

You could just take 'em out with a rifle any old time - no-one would even question it...

Some guy in England did that years ago. Wanted to do a disappearing act, so he picked up a tramp on Guy Fwkes night, killed him, left him in the drivers seat of his Morris 8, loosened off the petrol union at the carby, and set fire to the car. Theory was , the fireworks would cover the noise of the killing, people would just assume the burning car was a bonfire until it was completely burnt out and everybody would think the body (unrecognisable after the fire) was his (no DNA stuff in those days), and he'd collect insurance and disappear with girlfriend (summut like that anyways).

Didn't work some clever dick forensic scientist proved that the union was undone before the fire with a spanner. He was hanged.

[N4CR]

Me two.
But I don't want three weeks of it starting at 6.00AM and continuing till 10.00PM If people don't want it banned they should try a little moderation and common sense.

One way to do this - cut sales to 3 days, thursday, friday and saturday (or whatever the three days leading up to gay fawkes are) and then make it over 18 or 21 or whatever. Would be circumvented same way as the alcohol ban but would cut down on the amount of younger pyromaniancs a little. I got taught to muck around with fireworks at a very young age by my uncle, but was taught where the limits are and what not to do. Some of the things I do may look dangerous to others but I have been doing it for a while and have learnt what you can and can't get away with safely.

[spudchucka]

As an aside, who's had a gutsfull of Guy Fawkes?
I was dead set against banning private sales, but after 2 weeks (and counting) of mindless fuckwits letting the Goddamn things off till 10 or 11 at night, I'm thoroughly over it.
Ain't it always the truth that a cretinous few spoil it for everyone.
I don't know why they have to sell them for a week or two prior to the event (other than for the sake of the retailer). Perhaps they should go on sale only two days before. Raising the age from 14 to 18 would be a good move in my books. I wouldn't want them banned alltogether though.

[Lou Girardin]

I've been tempted to fight fire with fire.
Our place is higher than the worst offender's, so I could fire those big fuck-off loud buggers that explode after 30 or 40 metres right at his house.
Eat magnesium sucker!

[spudchucka]

You need a good spud gun to launch them!

(Just kidding, I would never encourage the use of home made guns for any purpose)










Except for the occasional bit of fun.

[tracyprier]

I've been tempted to fight fire with fire.
Our place is higher than the worst offender's, so I could fire those big fuck-off loud buggers that explode after 30 or 40 metres right at his house.
Eat magnesium sucker!
Yeah those big bastards are the worst! Our poor dog is f@#kin near shell-shocked. They remind me of being in New Delhi on Diwali... sounded like a mortar attack! they have REALLY serious fireworks over there. The sort of thing that would damn-near flip a car!

[parsley]

If people don't want it banned they should try a little moderation and common sense.
Yeah right, because that usually works. :banana:

[Lou Girardin]

Yeah right, because that usually works. :banana:

Well it would prevent old farts like me from voting to ban it.
(Don't underestimate the power of baby boomers)

[WRT]

You need a good spud gun to launch them!

(Just kidding, I would never encourage the use of home made guns for any purpose)

So where do you get professionally made ones from? :whistle:

Watched a guy down at Whangapoa one night launching spuds with glowsticks shoved thru them. That looked pretty cool . . .

[thehollowmen]

weeee I like splodeys

[Wolf]

For the same reason that ACC pays for guys who do stupid shit on bikes...

...but that's OK I guess?
I've paid ACC a large sum of money from my motorcycle registrations over the years. And this guy, he had a "Fucking about with fireworks like a dumb cunt" registration and paid a massive fee to ACC as part of it? I think not.

Like all of us, his employer pays ACC and ACC levies come out of his wages but, as that's not enough for the greedy bastards, those of us who want to risk our lives and limbs in cages and on bikes have to pay extra - if he want's to fuck about with explosives, fine (I've done so myself in the past) but he should have to ante up the moola for the consequences, not have it covered by the rest of the taxpaying community.

Fuck him.

[Postie]

they should have made the dickhead swim rather then waste hundreds on a helicopter. I think they should just ban fire works, there all shit now anyway, if you want decent fireworks then just go to a free firework show, its better and its free.....

[Wolf]

The modern fireworks are shit - didn't bother buying any this year after the crap we bought previous years.

I miss the double-happys and Mighty Cannons and the rockets - legislated out of private ownership thanks to retards doing the sort of things Mr Girardin is complaining about people doing today - acting like dicks, being inconsiderate and downright dangerously negligent.

This year we got subjected to a couple of weeks of random bangs and whistles and got to see kids running around in the grounds of a nearby school holding those long skinny fireworks that fire a series of magnesium spurts in their hands and pointing them into (and throwing them into) a bushclad gully beside the school - we were expecting to see the trees go up in flames.

If all fireworks are banned, it will be due to the actions of such morons.

I used to love Guy Fawkes night - when most people at least waited for the night and you got decent fireworks.

[Lou Girardin]

Eggsactly. There's no sense of anticipation now. Not when you let any and all of them off for two weeks before.
We were restricted to bangers bought out of pocket money before the 5th. Then we champed at the bit for it to get dark enough to let the rockets off.

[ManDownUnder]

The modern fireworks are shit - didn't bother buying any this year after the crap we bought previous years.

I miss the double-happys and Mighty Cannons and the rockets - legislated out of private ownership thanks to retards doing the sort of things Mr Girardin is complaining about people doing today - acting like dicks, being inconsiderate and downright dangerously negligent.

This year we got subjected to a couple of weeks of random bangs and whistles and got to see kids running around in the grounds of a nearby school holding those long skinny fireworks that fire a series of magnesium spurts in their hands and pointing them into (and throwing them into) a bushclad gully beside the school - we were expecting to see the trees go up in flames.

If all fireworks are banned, it will be due to the actions of such morons.

I used to love Guy Fawkes night - when most people at least waited for the night and you got decent fireworks.

Good call - nothing quite so satisfying as a double happy (poha) going off in a fresh cow pat....

..sssssss POWLAT!

Awesome fun. light the fuse and run like hell (or just hold up an old oilskin)

[Wolf]

Eggsactly. There's no sense of anticipation now. Not when you let any and all of them off for two weeks before.
We were restricted to bangers bought out of pocket money before the 5th. Then we champed at the bit for it to get dark enough to let the rockets off.
Shut up! I'm feeling old enough as it is. :bleh:

[Zapf]

I heard a young kid lost a eye last night...
cos he lent over the firework and BOOM right into his face

plus he had parental supervision....

I was lucky to be wearing glasses on a similar incident... over a what suppose to be a dead firework. Just lost some eye brow... all good now thou

[MacD]

I've paid ACC a large sum of money from my motorcycle registrations over the years. And this guy, he had a "Fucking about with fireworks like a dumb cunt" registration and paid a massive fee to ACC as part of it? I think not.

Like all of us, his employer pays ACC and ACC levies come out of his wages but, as that's not enough for the greedy bastards, those of us who want to risk our lives and limbs in cages and on bikes have to pay extra - if he want's to fuck about with explosives, fine (I've done so myself in the past) but he should have to ante up the moola for the consequences, not have it covered by the rest of the taxpaying community.

Fuck him.

You do realise that the ACC contribution paid by motorcyclists is significantly less than the cost to ACC for rehabilitation following motorcycle accidents. Motorcyclists claim at about 10x the rate of other road users. We are being subsidised by other contibutors to the ACC scheme, but if you want a target for complaint, I'd look at the cost of sports such as amateur rugby to the ACC system rather than people doing one-off dumb things (as it seems people on this site are always virtuous and have never done dumb stuff(TM) in their lives).

[Wolf]

You do realise that the ACC contribution paid by motorcyclists is significantly less than the cost to ACC for rehabilitation following motorcycle accidents. Motorcyclists claim at about 10x the rate of other road users. We are being subsidised by other contibutors to the ACC scheme,
That's their party line and their professed rationale for increasing our ACC levy but I note that the "expense" of rehabilitating us after accidents has never prevented them from turning a staggering profit each year. And if they were so worried about expenses, perhaps they should stop paying out to crims who injure themselves in escape attempts and stop hiring PI's to poke video cameras through people's windows.
In the proud tradition of the person responsible for the accident having to pay (increased premiums to their insurer), in most cases, the car drivers should be paying more as the majority of motorbike accidents are caused by people in cars, not the bike rider.


but if you want a target for complaint, I'd look at the cost of sports such as amateur rugby to the ACC system rather than people doing one-off dumb things
Even the amateur clubs, as others have pointed out in previous ACC threads, charge dues and to their members and pay ACC money to cover accidents.


(as it seems people on this site are always virtuous and have never done dumb stuff(TM) in their lives).
I said in my post that I have fucked about with explosives myself in the past - but I took all possible precautions and if I'd blown my fingers off then it would have been my own dumb fault and I should have paid the costs. You try and get accident and emergency insurance that covers you for dangerous pastimes - the premiums are horrific if you can get it.

So, for that matter, are the ACC levies on businesses that engage in dangerous activities. When I was self-employed, I had to declare the nature of my business so that they could assess its risk level and charge me accordingly. Fortunately I was fixing computers, not blasting stumps...

[MacD]

In the proud tradition of the person responsible for the accident having to pay (increased premiums to their insurer), in most cases, the car drivers should be paying more as the majority of motorbike accidents are caused by people in cars, not the bike rider.

The majority of injury accidents to motorcyclists are single vehicle accidents involving loss of control while corning (http://www.transport.govt.nz/business/land/research/annual-statistics-2002/rep-accid-motorcycle.php), not collisions with cars.



Even the amateur clubs, as others have pointed out in previous ACC threads, charge dues and to their members and pay ACC money to cover accidents.

And individuals (including ones who blow their fingers off with explosives or chop them off with a circular saw while doing d-i-y) pay for non-vehicle/non-work related accidents through the Earner's Account. Non-employed people (including children and students, not just beneficiaries) are funded directly by the government (yes, from your taxes)



I said in my post that I have fucked about with explosives myself in the past - but I took all possible precautions and if I'd blown my fingers off then it would have been my own dumb fault and I should have paid the costs. You try and get accident and emergency insurance that covers you for dangerous pastimes - the premiums are horrific if you can get it.


What you are really saying is that you disagree with the no-fault insurance system operated by ACC, but you are making an example of an individual because you happen to assess their actions as stupid. I suspect a lot of the non-motorcycling public think we are pretty stupid too.

However, ACC is the system we currently have and it probably benefits the majority of motorcyclists as motorcycling is a high risk activity. A private accident insurance scheme would assess the risk to the individual and charge accordingly, just as the vehicle insurance system currently does.

Be careful of what you ask for because you might just get it!

[Kickaha]

The majority of injury accidents to motorcyclists are single vehicle accidents involving loss of control while corning (http://www.transport.govt.nz/business/land/research/annual-statistics-2002/rep-accid-motorcycle.php), not collisions with cars.



What a complete bastard you are pointing that out, how dare you try and apportion blame to the riders when everyone knows it's the nasty cage driving scum that are the cause of all motorcyclists hurts:bleh:

Funnily enough when you actually think about all the "I crashed" posts on here most of them only involve a single motorcycle