building a wiring loom

[Ivan]

Hey I have a CDI XL125 motor and was wondering how to build a CDI wiring loom for it because I know on most CDI bikes you need a battery to finish the system off but I do not want to carry a battery as they weigh alot more how do I get passed this problem cheers

Ivan

If you got any links would be appreciated

[skidMark]

does it have a yellow wire and a white wire coming from the magneto? then you can set up a charging system....

also is there a wire coming from the motor probably black with a red stripe not sure for your motor that runs to the cdi?

better still tell me what color wires there are lol

[skidMark]

also what are the wire colors from your cdi?

[Ivan]

hey mark they are black with a white strip coming from them same on the coil and also the coil has a blue wire with a white strip in it and a black wire coming out the motor to cdi

[skidMark]

hey mark they are black with a white strip coming from them same on the coil and also the coil has a blue wire with a white strip in it and a black wire coming out the motor to cdi


lost you there???

are most of the wires just black with a white stripe? ...how good are you at drawing pics in ms paint lol :P:lol:

[skidMark]

better yet could you take some photos...if you lived in auckland id just come round and do it lol

but yeah ive searched the web for some diagrams nothing as yet

[skidMark]

a little birdie on a website tells me to run the black wire from the magneto direct to the coil...doesnt say anything about a cdi ...guessing they took it out ....but still throw up some pics and we will make sure...don't really want to fry something aye :)

[Sketchy_Racer]

ivan.... the XL125 motor is a points ignition. no need for a cdi. there will be a black with a white or yellow stripe, that goes into your coil and then the coil gets earthed. If you want to run a CDI you will have to get the magnetos and point of pickups of an engine with the CDI system.

you would be better off to run the points set up and advance/retard the time of ignition to the area that the engine makes power.

[FROSTY]

Ivan --Not sure where you're going with this --you building a bucket motor??
If you are Id suggest using a bigger battery-the weight diffence wont matter a darn -then dump the charging system--the bike will rev heaps better

[Ivan]

ivan.... the XL125 motor is a points ignition. no need for a cdi. there will be a black with a white or yellow stripe, that goes into your coil and then the coil gets earthed. If you want to run a CDI you will have to get the magnetos and point of pickups of an engine with the CDI system.

you would be better off to run the points set up and advance/retard the time of ignition to the area that the engine makes power.


ya dick, this has a CDI in it of a XR200/250, It has been added and is going to kick your bikes ass.


Nah serious it is a CDI ignition motor

[Ivan]

Ivan --Not sure where you're going with this --you building a bucket motor??
If you are Id suggest using a bigger battery-the weight diffence wont matter a darn -then dump the charging system--the bike will rev heaps better


My mate Nathan has a bike minus the battery and that thing is a rocket ship every one tells me not to run batterys either and its also not weight it is room to hold a battery

[Sketchy_Racer]

an XL125!!! its a points!! what year is it??

[Ivan]

an XL125!!! its a points!! what year is it??


It has had a CDI unit added of of a XR200/250

[Sketchy_Racer]

tru that....

[skidMark]

err take it out lol ugh if i was in wararapa id just do it for you lol too hard to explain

[Buddha#81]

Here we go, just gone out to my bucket. Its running a XL XR now 150 (was 125s) motor which runs cdi ignition. So take that RG, and go and make love to you rain forest destroying 2 stroke.

If you have the same cdi as me this is all you need.
1. No battery (pain in the arse and extra weight)

2.black/white(stripe) wire out of cdi unit goes to coil.

3.green & blue wires from cdi ignighter (on end of cam) goes to same colour wires on cdi.

4.black/red(stripe) out of stator will produce the power and that goes to the same colour wires on cdi unit.

5. The second green wire can be used for the kill switch.

I hope this helps ask any questions and go the Honda singles.:2thumbsup

[Ivan]

Here we go, just gone out to my bucket. Its running a XL XR now 150 (was 125s) motor which runs cdi ignition. So take that RG, and go and make love to you rain forest destroying 2 stroke.

If you have the same cdi as me this is all you need.
1. No battery (pain in the arse and extra weight)

2.black/white(stripe) wire out of cdi unit goes to coil.

3.green & blue wires from cdi ignighter (on end of cam) goes to same colour wires on cdi.

4.black/red(stripe) out of stator will produce the power and that goes to the same colour wires on cdi unit.

5. The second green wire can be used for the kill switch.

I hope this helps ask any questions and go the Honda singles.:2thumbsup


Cheers,

I agree what did you do to yours to make it 150cc a kit or bore it out also what sort of mods are you doing to it to perform the 4 stroke Honda single motors are always good more reliable, plus I am a Honda sponsered rider so it dont look good racing a Suzuki:doh: I got a wicked Honda Race team shirt today for the nationals

Spud_Racer cheers will do that next week sometime once I get my RS125 gear box sorted

[Buddha#81]

Im using a very short stroked xr185 barrel an piston using a modified xl100 crank and 125 rod. Seems to go ok, good torque, managed to drop red line by 1000-1500 rpm should be reliable. Ran a stock xl125s motor to learn how to ride. Managed to burgle 3rd outright down here in our winter series, next season is of concern with all the FXR's turning up, i can just keep a stocker at bay. Ill try and post a photo

[gav]

Cheers,

I agree what did you do to yours to make it 150cc a kit or bore it out also what sort of mods are you doing to it to perform the 4 stroke Honda single motors are always good more reliable, plus I am a Honda sponsered rider so it dont look good racing a Suzuki:doh: I got a wicked Honda Race team shirt today for the nationals

Spud_Racer cheers will do that next week sometime once I get my RS125 gear box sorted
Aye? You're a Honda Sponsered rider? What, didnt your sponser know how to wire up your Honda? Why didnt you just ask them??? :doh:

[Brian d marge]

Not sure if this will help Ill post it anyway , its Ametican so when they mean Hot we say live !

Stephen

[Sketchy_Racer]

Here we go, just gone out to my bucket. Its running a XL XR now 150 (was 125s) motor which runs cdi ignition. So take that RG, and go and make love to you rain forest destroying 2 stroke.



ok okay!!:eyepoke: i eat my humble pie!

(friggen hondas rubbish bullshit fall apart, blow up, smokey, rusty, slow, things!)

[Ivan]

Im using a very short stroked xr185 barrel an piston using a modified xl100 crank and 125 rod. Seems to go ok, good torque, managed to drop red line by 1000-1500 rpm should be reliable. Ran a stock xl125s motor to learn how to ride. Managed to burgle 3rd outright down here in our winter series, next season is of concern with all the FXR's turning up, i can just keep a stocker at bay. Ill try and post a photo

Cool a Trellis frame like on the ducatis sounds like fun myne is gonna beat Glens FXR 150 tho:banana:

[Ivan]

Aye? You're a Honda Sponsered rider? What, didnt your sponser know how to wire up your Honda? Why didnt you just ask them??? :doh:


Yeah I am sponsewred by Langlands Honda in Masterton I havent even asked them it was because I was out in shed and wanted to try start this beast and didnt want to travel 40ks to go to the bike shop but now I know

Cheers guys

[Ivan]

(friggen hondas rubbish bullshit fall apart, blow up, smokey, rusty, slow, things!)


read that what 125 GP bike do Suzuki make aye? I race the Honda RS125 and it is fast!! Nathans Honda CBR 150 is faster than your Suzuki FXR 150 isnt it??!!! Blow up well yes my RS did but that was at the end of that motors life Fall apart none of my Hondas have, Smokey when I start my RS but all 2 strokes are Rusty only if ya leave it in the salt water for a day:msn-wink: THINGS THINGS WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THINGS

[Sketchy_Racer]

every one knows hondas are........ well everyone knows.

and, thats the second time your RS has broke in the last month. first the crank and now the box!! AH HA!!

and that 'honda', in my garage, is still waiting for parts from japan. not cause you sold it to me, but because its..... honda!!

where all my suzuki bikes (all four) are running perfectly, and if that 'honda CBR150' is so fast how come i lapped you on my "slow FXR" HUH!!

all in good fun buddy ;)

[gav]

Yeah I am sponsewred by Langlands Honda in Masterton I havent even asked them it was because I was out in shed and wanted to try start this beast and didnt want to travel 40ks to go to the bike shop but now I know

Cheers guys
Jeez you're full of shit! Havent they got telephones in your part of the world? You posted that first thread on here on Wednesday at 2.30 in the afternoon, why not just ring them up, sure the workshop won't mind helping out one of their sponsered riders? :doh:

[Sketchy_Racer]

wowha Gav...... lay off alittle, sheesh :calm:

maybe its cause he was already on the computer and didnt want to annoy his sponser...... i dunno but just take it easy ;)

[Ivan]

Yeah Gav I forgot and Kiwi Biker is a good place to get advice man, Geez always bitching and moaning your like a old grandma when someones poppin a skid on there lawn jokes I just like it here cause a bike shop will give me a way of building a complete loom not a basic loom you know

[Ivan]

Ok here is a dogy as MS Paint drawing my hand drawing one is better


The Coil:

coming out of the black box is a wire with two wire in it, one green one blue the green one turns into white and then is soldered with a black wire that goes directly into motor as drawn. The Blue is soldered into a black/white wire that is just dangling


The CDI:

has on the left a black/white and a green
the center black/white and a black/red
The right has blue/Yellow and a green all this is added into a dodgy drawing as well my hand drawn one is better

[Ivan]

Hey Spud racer wat sorta exhaust are you running on that bike of yours are you going to the manfield round in febuary

[Buddha#81]

hey Ivan, its just a homemade megaphone. No i wont be coming to Manfeild next year if you read my profile im married with two boys thats why I race a bucket. I'll will be going to the Nelson Street races on the 2nd Jan, there sould be a good bucket turn out, hope some of you north island poofta's are comming down.

[Ivan]

it a manfield bucket round only but o well

[Ivan]

Well I am going to go align the chain on the bike if I get a chance weld the mounts some stage get some pipe for the exhaust figure out an exhaust system and all that will be holding me back is the engine mounts when I make mounts I will take motor out and add the performance mods chuck it back in and be heading up to Manfield with it,

Hey Spud what ya using for a frame

[Ivan]

here are the pics camera is shite


pic 1 is CDI wires if you cant see em properly I will tell you what they are

Pic 2 Cam Wire? I think?

Pic 3 Stator wires


the others are it just mounted in frame bar it not being welded:slap:

[Buddha#81]

The blue and the green wires on pic 1 that are close together go to the cdi pick up on the end of the cam shaft.

There will be a black with white stripe that is your low tension feed to the spade terminal on the back of your coil.

Black with red stripe goes to the stator on the end of the crank (this my be the problem i think you may have a points motor).

Good luck, its bloody hard when you know what to do and trying to explain
how to is a chalenge.

[Ivan]

ah fuck I dont understand that either man I think it as a poo poo

[Ivan]

it is a cdi motor tho

[Ivan]

can anyone figure this out

[gav]

Is the motor an ex race one? Has it been in a bucket? Seems to have alot of wires there...

[Ivan]

ok motor I got from my mate Nathan and CDI I got from my mate Luke and coil came from RG100!! so it all there motor was never a bucket I dont think but was going to be and now will be

[Sketchy_Racer]

are you sure the CDI is the correct one for this bike??

[Ivan]

yep sure am