Serving or ex armed services?

[paulmac]

RNZAC 1982 to 1991. QA sqn waiouru and 1 NZ Scots in Burnham.

[Wannabiker]

whats trentham like then?? i know the town doens't have much going for it, how's the camp? I'm possibly posted to EOD this coming month

Upper Hutt is OK...has most shops that a bloke would want...Mitre 10 Mega, a motorbike shop (mainly dirt-bike) and a warehouse. Great riding around the region, of course the famous Rimutaka hill road. 30 minutes to Wellington city. 2 good bike shops in Lower Hutt (Motomart and TSS)

The camp has expanded and is always busy. Plenty of stuff going on. The new EOD Sqn building is lovely. Nice atmosphere in camp. PM me or e-mail: ross.heald@nzdf......

[R6_kid]

So R6 Kid, what ever happened to your plans to join the mob? Still thinking of it?

Basically I have to wait til September when they run the next PERSEL, they will then compare my results from the PERSEL board I atteneded last April with anyone who makes the grade for AWO this time around. From what I've heard they are only taking one or two AWO's so it'll be pretty tight. I'm getting on with other things in the meantime - like starting on my PPL/CPL and knocking out the theory side of things. Possibly considering ACFT Tech otherwise but don't really like the look of the new arrangement.

[gatch]

I was accepted into the airforce september 03 at 17 years old, did well till I hit 18. Started full time boozing, got the boot april 05 for not performing.

Joined too young and didn't take it seriously.. I would absolutely kick arse now, with the drinking I mean..

[rebel]

I was accepted into the airforce september 03 at 17 years old, did well till I hit 18. Started full time boozing, got the boot april 05 for not performing.

Joined too young and didn't take it seriously.. I would absolutely kick arse now, with the drinking I mean..

Then you should have joined the puss.
I was in the puss for a couple of years, it was going pretty good, until I went to sea, and found out a lot of qualified technicians couldn't use basic tools, know basic shit such as bolt sizes etc. That along with civvie contractors doing most of the work. I left (along with a couple of mates from the same intake) and got an apprenticeship for the same qual, which I learned more in the first week than my whole time in the puss. Was pretty gutting at the time but haven't looked back since.

[gatch]

Was pretty gutting at the time but haven't looked back since.

Yup, I'm almosted a fitter/turner now...

[quickbuck]

Ok, so can anyone help me with this? For the Aircraft Technician job it says you have to do the 17-week NMIT aviaton course, but what process does this follow? i.e is it Apply, Get Accepted, Do Course, Upon Passing Course do Recruit Course?

Or are you expected to do this course prior to applying or prior to being accepted? Because i wouldnt wanna do the course and then be told "oh, sorry we don't have a job for you"

And btw i'm not a senior member yet so have no idea who's blinged me ;)

Sorry mate,
Forgot about that little rule!!! (Bout Snr Members.... Twas Me).

I will check it out tomorrow for you.

The way I understood it, there was a proposal to make people do the RMIT course first... However that hasn't happened yet (as far as I know).
There will also be a job for you if you can pass the basic engineering course at RMIT.


As I say, i will check tomorrow.

CM2005, if medic hasn't spun your wheels, take a look around for a re-muster.
You got to admit that the lifestyle has many advantages....

[huff3r]

Sorry mate,
Forgot about that little rule!!! (Bout Snr Members.... Twas Me).

I will check it out tomorrow for you.

The way I understood it, there was a proposal to make people do the RMIT course first... However that hasn't happened yet (as far as I know).
There will also be a job for you if you can pass the basic engineering course at RMIT.


As I say, i will check tomorrow.

CM2005, if medic hasn't spun your wheels, take a look around for a re-muster.
You got to admit that the lifestyle has many advantages....

Cool, thanks for that. Apparently the recruitment office might be opening up again tomorrow anyway, so i might have to organise a visit. The lifestyle definitely appeals to me! One of my good mates is in logistics, and he's finding it pretty awesome.

[quickbuck]

Basically I have to wait til September when they run the next PERSEL, they will then compare my results from the PERSEL board I atteneded last April with anyone who makes the grade for AWO this time around. From what I've heard they are only taking one or two AWO's so it'll be pretty tight. I'm getting on with other things in the meantime - like starting on my PPL/CPL and knocking out the theory side of things. Possibly considering ACFT Tech otherwise but don't really like the look of the new arrangement.

Good on you G.

You're right, hot competition for AWO.

Keep on with plan B and C too... Will all be handy come the end of the contract.

As for the new ACFTTECH arrangement, well yup, guess it doesn't suit everybody.

[quickbuck]

Cool, thanks for that. Apparently the recruitment office might be opening up again tomorrow anyway, so i might have to organise a visit. The lifestyle definitely appeals to me! One of my good mates is in logistics, and he's finding it pretty awesome.

Yup... less than 13 hours left of my holiday too.... Darn, should have taken more. Still heaps of things to fix in the shed!

Pop down there. You can't ever appear TOO keen.
It's the ones they never really hear from that makes their jobs difficult.

[sAsLEX]

I was accepted into the airforce september 03 at 17 years old, did well till I hit 18. Started full time boozing, got the boot april 05 for not performing.

Joined too young and didn't take it seriously.. I would absolutely kick arse now, with the drinking I mean..

I joined at 17, still here, still not got the boot.......


Yup... less than 13 hours left of my holiday too.... Darn, should have taken more. Still heaps of things to fix in the shed!

Pop down there. You can't ever appear TOO keen.
It's the ones they never really hear from that makes their jobs difficult.

Holiday! Sometimes being posted to a frigate sucks been doing 48s since New Years eve, but back to work for real tomorrow.

[quickbuck]

Yeah... That is why I ticked the BLUE box... and have managed to avoid 6 Sqn (Formaly Wasp Afloat, NSF, for you old bu&&ers) ever since too....

[huff3r]

Just got back from the recruitment office, and i've applied... testing probably in two weeks, hope its not too hard! :D

[R6_kid]

Just got back from the recruitment office, and i've applied... testing probably in two weeks, hope its not too hard! :D

Basic Aptitude testing is exactly that - It's pretty much some 5th form Maths and some brain teasers, then theres some stuff that you either know or you don't (technical terms etc). The final part is about being able to follow instructions and working quickly. It's not too hard, go in, have a drink of water, relax, and do your best.

[huff3r]

Basic Aptitude testing is exactly that - It's pretty much some 5th form Maths and some brain teasers, then theres some stuff that you either know or you don't (technical terms etc). The final part is about being able to follow instructions and working quickly. It's not too hard, go in, have a drink of water, relax, and do your best.

Awesome, I aced 5th form maths lol, so should be ok. And i've done a little technical stuff before (motorsport engineering course :D). As for following instructions, i can do that... just not always so good at working quickly lol but i'll manage :D

[quickbuck]

Awesome, I aced 5th form maths lol, so should be ok. And i've done a little technical stuff before (motorsport engineering course :D). As for following instructions, i can do that... just not always so good at working quickly lol but i'll manage :D

You'll fit right in then ;)

[Dean]

Mates have referred me to the Navy, I think it would be great for two years then move to the Army, get some life experiences, meet new people and countries, learn discipline and life morals etc. Dad and his Grandfather served in the Army Grandfather being Maori Battalion, been edging me to get into it - maybe I said. We only got one life so I guess I better get my arse into gear.

[gatch]

I joined at 17, still here, still not got the boot......

I fucked around, alot..

When I wasn't out on the bike or trying to root one of the locals. I was drinking..

A short while after a boozed confrontation with a sgt instructor at the JR's, I was "admin released".

[Squiggles]

Basic Aptitude testing is exactly that - It's pretty much some 5th form Maths

I remember having to relearn long division :lol:

[R6_kid]

I remember having to relearn long division :lol:

relearn... I didn't know how to in the first place - I learnt it specifically for the test!

[huff3r]

relearn... I didn't know how to in the first place - I learnt it specifically for the test!

Uh-oh, please tell me you're kidding me lol.... i absolutely hate long division...

[quickbuck]

Uh-oh, please tell me you're kidding me lol.... i absolutely hate long division...

Amazing..... I bet you didn't learn your times table either......

Don't worry, not blowing my own trumpet, but i was pretty cleaver at maths all through school, but never bothered with times table, or long division.
So long as I could approximate, I could believe what the calculator said.... That is the guts of it.

They are really looking for people with minds that suit the job they are applying for.... So you will really fit right in if you have done some motorsport engineering.

[huff3r]

Amazing..... I bet you didn't learn your times table either......

Don't worry, not blowing my own trumpet, but i was pretty cleaver at maths all through school, but never bothered with times table, or long division.
So long as I could approximate, I could believe what the calculator said.... That is the guts of it.

They are really looking for people with minds that suit the job they are applying for.... So you will really fit right in if you have done some motorsport engineering.

Yeah, im pretty handy at maths myself, just not that into long division and such... more suited to logic problems and algebra really :bleh: And yep, hopefully this'll mean i dont have to sell my racecar :D

[R6_kid]

Uh-oh, please tell me you're kidding me lol.... i absolutely hate long division...

That was for aircrew... can't remember what the ground trade aptitude tests had in terms of mathematics questions

[quickbuck]

That was for aircrew... can't remember what the ground trade aptitude tests had in terms of mathematics questions

Been 19 1/2 years for me... can't remember what exactly they tested me for.
All I know was it wasn't too bad.......

Still trying to find out about the new Basic Engineering thing..... But from an e-mail I got today regarding scrounging parts, and if i read between the lines, it may well be that you do that bit first... before getting to learn how to march in squares.....

Rest assured, the instructors in AERO Eng are good buggers.

[huff3r]

Been 19 1/2 years for me... can't remember what exactly they tested me for.
All I know was it wasn't too bad.......

Still trying to find out about the new Basic Engineering thing..... But from an e-mail I got today regarding scrounging parts, and if i read between the lines, it may well be that you do that bit first... before getting to learn how to march in squares.....

Rest assured, the instructors in AERO Eng are good buggers.

Yep, the recruitment officer set me straight. You do that bit before the recruit course, and before you do it you are given an offer of service conditional on passing the course and maintaining required levels of health/fitness. So you're in before you do it, which is what i was hoping :D

[quickbuck]

Yep, the recruitment officer set me straight. You do that bit before the recruit course, and before you do it you are given an offer of service conditional on passing the course and maintaining required levels of health/fitness. So you're in before you do it, which is what i was hoping :D

Sweet..... Oh, and you don't have to sell the race car... you will just be a little under funded for a little bit. Then you will have plenty of time to work on it, and race it.
The two bases in the north island have very active motorsports clubs. Especially around motorcycling, but there is a very large "Tarmac" content at Ohakea as well...

[huff3r]

Sweet..... Oh, and you don't have to sell the race car... you will just be a little under funded for a little bit. Then you will have plenty of time to work on it, and race it.
The two bases in the north island have very active motorsports clubs. Especially around motorcycling, but there is a very large "Tarmac" content at Ohakea as well...

Sounds good, and yeah ii'd be less under-funded then trying to fix a racecar on a student budget! Might have to get a racebike too :D. Ohakea is perfectly located for a quick trip to Manfeild!! I just hope i can end up there...

[sAsLEX]

Sounds good, and yeah ii'd be less under-funded then trying to fix a racecar on a student budget! Might have to get a racebike too :D. Ohakea is perfectly located for a quick trip to Manfeild!! I just hope i can end up there...

And that is about all........

[quickbuck]

And that is about all........
Well, 9 minutes to Manfeild is better than an hour to Puke!

Ohakea isn't exactly in the middle of nowhere, it is more like within 2 hours of everywhere.... Hampton Downs is a bit of a trek, but that's okay.
I get inspired by people who frequently travel down from Tauranga to race at Manfeild...

There is a good chance of working at Ohakea.

[huff3r]

There is a good chance of working at Ohakea.

Thats awesome then! Cos everyone i know lives in the lower north island... I'd hate to have to spend half my pay on plane and ferry tickets!

Just been photo-copying all the documents they want, certificates, school reports etc.... don't ask for much do they? :bleh:

[quickbuck]

I'd hate to have to spend half my pay on plane and ferry tickets!

:

Ummm,
You are joining the Airforce right??
There isn't much of a chance of getting a job 'Base Side" in Woodbourne these days... and as for Plane tickets, well we actually have a free air service that operates between the bases. Yes, it does still work... for the most part.

As fore all the copies... well, it is just to check. People make stuff up these days, so you have to check.
You'll get used to boxes being ticked all the time.

[huff3r]

Ummm,
You are joining the Airforce right??
There isn't much of a chance of getting a job 'Base Side" in Woodbourne these days... and as for Plane tickets, well we actually have a free air service that operates between the bases. Yes, it does still work... for the most part.

As fore all the copies... well, it is just to check. People make stuff up these days, so you have to check.
You'll get used to boxes being ticked all the time.

Haha, okay... see these are the thiings us civvies don't know :bleh:

Free air service sounds awesome! Much bettter than driving down from Auckland or whatever lol. Sounds like I'm sorted then.
And yeah, its just a hassle with how much I have to copy, unfortunately i have a few certificates... lol, but i dont mind, its cool that their proving to be worth something for once!

[sAsLEX]

Ummm,
a free air service that operates between the bases. Yes, it does still work... for the most part.
.

Tui anyone?


I know when I was organising courses for our boys in Woodbourne we went civilian so they would actually get there......

[R6_kid]

And that is about all........

DUDE! Have you been to town in Palmy? It's student central, during semester it's usually crawling with good looking, intelligent and somewhat drunk women!

[sAsLEX]

DUDE! Have you been to town in Palmy? It's student central, during semester it's usually crawling with good looking, intelligent and somewhat drunk women!

Hmmmm the two points in bold are rather debatable, but the third does make up for that.

[doc]

:doctor:
, well we actually have a free air service that operates between the bases. Yes, it does still work... for the most part.


What did they call that service ? Last time I went on it was a Bristiol Freighter. Was never comfortable standing on the front thingy looking down over the Kaikouras.

Also flew into Ton son Nuit in 75 on a B170 ? (Isnt that the jargon for one , but wasnt game enough to stand up the front then )

:doctor:

[huff3r]

Just got back from Testing in town. Wow that was actually kinda fun. Finishes the entire reasoning one within the time limit even, but didnt finish any of the rest. Got damned close on the maths one, soo I wasn't happy about that :lol:

[wbks]

Sorry for the thread dredge, but this seems like a good place to ask: Does anyone know what the deal is with the AARCs the army is doing? I checked the website pretty early last year and the dates haven't changed, and none of the intakes feature a riflemans section, but I can't really imagine that it is SO competitive that there hasn't been any openings since half way through last year, and one would think that seeing as is it ALL ARMS, what trade in specific you are applying for doesn't affect intake, but rather your application before hand? Or do you just do the same course alongside anyone wanting to do anything from engineering to communications and then get picked (or not...) for your specific trade (even if it isn't listed)? If anyone has any knowledge on this I'd really appreciate it.

[eelracing]

Sorry for the thread dredge, but this seems like a good place to ask: Does anyone know what the deal is with the AARCs the army is doing? I checked the website pretty early last year and the dates haven't changed, and none of the intakes feature a riflemans section, but I can't really imagine that it is SO competitive that there hasn't been any openings since half way through last year, and one would think that seeing as is it ALL ARMS, what trade in specific you are applying for doesn't affect intake, but rather your application before hand? Or do you just do the same course alongside anyone wanting to do anything from engineering to communications and then get picked (or not...) for your specific trade (even if it isn't listed)? If anyone has any knowledge on this I'd really appreciate it.

You've got to get yourself into a recruitment office if possible...there all your questions will be answered and more.Plus just being there the recruiter can tell you what trade or tooth arm best suits your ultimate aim.

In times of recession and lack of job opportunities the armed forces applications do go through the roof.

[Gibbo13p]

Agree'd you need to talk to somebody who actually KNOWS whats going on....being TF and speaking with a recruiter the other day...don't bother applying to be a Field Engineer...if your not getting any joy going RF why not try getting in Tf then sneaking around the back afterwards....

[Gibbo13p]

:doctor:

What did they call that service ? Last time I went on it was a Bristiol Freighter. Was never comfortable standing on the front thingy looking down over the Kaikouras.

Also flew into Ton son Nuit in 75 on a B170 ? (Isnt that the jargon for one , but wasnt game enough to stand up the front then )

:doctor:

Sats flights..... Must have been fun on a Bristol Frightener...

[firefighter]

..if your not getting any joy going RF why not try getting in Tf then sneaking around the back afterwards....

Because TF are sacks and you'll never live it down if you go RF.

[Pogo2]

Tui anyone?


I know when I was organising courses for our boys in Woodbourne we went civilian so they would actually get there......

I did a course at Woodborne and elected to take the car instead of a SATS flight. Left WB at about 0700 and got to Aucklnad about 1900. The rest of the guys on the course got bussed from WB to Christchurch, joined SATS to Wgtn, OH then WP. I think that they beat us by 30 mins. Drive was much more fun with less waiting around!

[neels]

Sats flights..... Must have been fun on a Bristol Frightener...
Was fun getting off a herc with the engines still running at OH, after it took them 3 hours to get the bastard to start at WN so they were too scared to shut it down again. :laugh:

[huff3r]

Well heres an update for me, had my interview last friday. "I'm more than happy to recommend you".

Will be hearing from them sometime round my birthday (mid April), and if I'm in then I'm off to Blenheim by May the 21st :2thumbsup

[quickbuck]

Was fun getting off a herc with the engines still running at OH, after it took them 3 hours to get the bastard to start at WN so they were too scared to shut it down again. :laugh:

Ummm, that better be a P/T.
There is a good reason they wouldn't have shut down.


Well heres an update for me, had my interview last friday. "I'm more than happy to recommend you".

Will be hearing from them sometime round my birthday (mid April), and if I'm in then I'm off to Blenheim by May the 21st :2thumbsup

WELL DONE!

[1vanvan1]

Well heres an update for me, had my interview last friday. "I'm more than happy to recommend you".

Will be hearing from them sometime round my birthday (mid April), and if I'm in then I'm off to Blenheim by May the 21st :2thumbsup

Nice dude!! Will you be down here doing your Aeroeng course with NMIT? Ill still be down here around that time. Flick me a PM. And bring ya bike! Takaka hill is only a hour or so away!

[huff3r]

Nice dude!! Will you be down here doing your Aeroeng course with NMIT? Ill still be down here around that time. Flick me a PM. And bring ya bike! Takaka hill is only a hour or so away!

Yep, the course starts 21st and I'd be staying in the barracks. Probably cant bring the bike though, seeing as its actually Dads and not worth bringing (GN250). But I may have to buy one after recruit course :bleh:

I'd be bringing my car down though, and im sure i can find ways to have fun in that haha

[1vanvan1]

Yep, the course starts 21st and I'd be staying in the barracks. Probably cant bring the bike though, seeing as its actually Dads and not worth bringing (GN250). But I may have to buy one after recruit course :bleh:

I'd be bringing my car down though, and im sure i can find ways to have fun in that haha

Oh yeah, you would live base side. Closer to work than me

[huff3r]

Just had my eyesight test done cos the docs requested it, 6/6 in one eye and 6/3 in the other (corrected ;) ).
Hmmm, got me thinking, i forgot to ask my optometrist to look up wether i meet the standards for pilot.... Not that i think i'td be a good thing for me to go for now, but in a few years time could be a possibility.

Also, does anyone know if they take people who've had laser eye surgery as pilots? Just out of curiosity...

[jamessmith]

did 2 1/2 years V coy 1RNZIR.. not long, but long enough to say been there done that

[portokiwi]

10 years RNZIR 80s-90s, still working for the govt....... Under paid over worked lol

[sAsLEX]

Also, does anyone know if they take people who've had laser eye surgery as pilots? Just out of curiosity...

Never used to, but apparently this might be changing.

[huff3r]

Never used to, but apparently this might be changing.

Oooh, sounds promising. I'll have to keep my eye on this, i'd love to be able to see like a normal person haha.

It's soo slow now though, just waiting for selection in April, the slowest 3 months of my life so far. With my fingers crossed for every second of it :lol:

[quickbuck]

True True....

Yes, the True Brat part is the "... when my dad..." Or, "We used to do this in on Sqn in Singapore...." When they were all of 7 and their dad was a Corporal...

Well, better get back to work... and have my.. Oh, wait. Wednesday. Sport ;)

[sAsLEX]

Well, better get back to work... and have my.. Oh, wait. Wednesday. Sport ;)

oh I wish I was posted to a non operational unit......

[Robert Taylor]

Who here are either currently serving or ex armed services?
Me, Im an ex RNZAF SGT,served in the mob for 13 years, been in civvy street about 14 years now

Ex RNZAF also, that in part explains my hatred for Helen Clark

[Delerium]

RNZAF 2001-2008
Engineer at 3 ANR 2009 - still going.

[quickbuck]

oh I wish I was posted to a non operational unit......

Yup,
I only support one of the FEG's, so get it pretty easy if all is going well.....
I won't even say what I did for sport on here... But needless to say it was fun!

[quickbuck]

That's exactly what she says. I mean, I can remember playing ping pong in the hangar next to a Hercules that was being worked on, or stealing icecream from the Pommy Fincastle team's fridge - and many other stories of the same vein. But that's not the sorta stuff people down at the JR's/Airmen's club want to talk/hear about when they are on the piss! It's just like Air Training Corps kids that join up and think that their cardboard rank slides from the Afternoon Tea Club actually mean something - they get put in their place pretty fast!
Yup, I know the type.... Only all too well!

[specter]

got my call from the recruiting office today! im getting my fitness testing and interview done on the 26th (did aptitude late December) and as long as that goes all well she said i have a place reserved for the July AARC intake.......

BTH how long do you have to be in the army before becoming specialized (http://army.mil.nz/careers/ongoing-training/army-schools/combat-school.htm)

[Gibbo13p]

Good luck! bet on 2 years before your let go to try and do something else..if at all. What did you recruit as?

[wbks]

got my call from the recruiting office today! im getting my fitness testing and interview done on the 26th (did aptitude late December) and as long as that goes all well she said i have a place reserved for the July AARC intake.......

BTH how long do you have to be in the army before becoming specialized (http://army.mil.nz/careers/ongoing-training/army-schools/combat-school.htm)Woa, put in my app. earlier this year (Jan'), was kind of expecting that it would go pretty fast once I get the call and hopefully be there (in the same one as you I assume) on the 26th, but sounds like I might have to wait longer:shutup: Just curious, what are your 2.4 time/pressups/situps? I know it's getting more competitive all the time, so I'm wondering if the 10:30 they tell you to aim for on the website is going to cut it. btw what were you hoping to specialize in?

[specter]

Woa, put in my app. earlier this year (Jan'), was kind of expecting that it would go pretty fast once I get the call and hopefully be there (in the same one as you I assume) on the 26th, but sounds like I might have to wait longer:shutup: Just curious, what are your 2.4 time/pressups/situps? I know it's getting more competitive all the time, so I'm wondering if the 10:30 they tell you to aim for on the website is going to cut it. btw what were you hoping to specialize in?

give the recruitment office a call, and give them shit! got me sussed priti quickly, im doing sub 10 min 2.4's atm 60 sit ups but only 15 pushups (not my strong point)
im still thinking about specializations thats why i asked how long it takes....

" I know it's getting more competitive all the time" recruiter said (based on my aptitude tests) as long as i pass the fitness tests i have a position reserved on the AARC

[wbks]

give the recruitment office a call, and give them shit! got me sussed priti quickly, im doing sub 10 min 2.4's atm 60 sit ups but only 15 pushups (not my strong point)
im still thinking about specializations thats why i asked how long it takes....

" I know it's getting more competitive all the time" recruiter said (based on my aptitude tests) as long as i pass the fitness tests i have a position reserved on the AARCTrust me, compared to you I'm pretty good with pushups (not trying to insult you here) but my running is an absolute joke, so just be glad you're in such a good position for running lol... Adding a few pushups is a lot easier than cutting numerous minutes off your 2.4 time lol I'll wring them up on monday if I don't hear from them, I was told I would be called in for an interview within 3 weeks or so. What was the "aptitude test" like? I mean what did it involve? An interview and math/logic testing?

[specter]

Trust me, compared to you I'm pretty good with pushups (not trying to insult you here) but my running is an absolute joke, so just be glad you're in such a good position for running lol... Adding a few pushups is a lot easier than cutting numerous minutes off your 2.4 time lol I'll wring them up on monday if I don't hear from them, I was told I would be called in for an interview within 3 weeks or so. What was the "aptitude test" like? I mean what did it involve? An interview and math/logic testing?

the interview is just making sure your signing up as what your skill suit, I got 100% with basic tests and about 80% on specialized, there just like the tests on the web site....... haha i take no offense at being shocking at press ups....

[sAsLEX]

the interview is just making sure your signing up as what your skill suit, I got 100% with basic tests and about 80% on specialized, there just like the tests on the web site....... haha i take no offense at being shocking at press ups....

It would pay to be a lot fitter than the minimum prior to Basic, or else you will be playing catch up during training.

[Toaster]

Agreed. It is a huge advantage to be fitter than average in your intake.

[huff3r]

It would pay to be a lot fitter than the minimum prior to Basic, or else you will be playing catch up during training.

Shit. I'd better get a move on then! Good thing the intake im going for is September :lol:
Thankfully i get to "pretend" im in the airforce while i do the NMIT course before recruit course.

If i get in!! *fingers crossed*

[quickbuck]

Agreed. It is a huge advantage to be fitter than average in your intake.

Got to agree with that.
The thing about fitness, is that it is MORE than being able to run so fast, sit up so much, and press up your upper body...

Those are the gauges that are used, BUT in actual fact, the fitter you are the less fatigued you will be by the end of the day.

In fact, I would say that if you are up to the minimum level, you will still feel stuffed by 1500 every day on BASIC. Then the next couple of hours are hell.....
If you are fitter than the minimum, you can continue to concentrate until well into the evening......

But then what do I know, I'm in a cushy Air Force job....

[quickbuck]

Shit. I'd better get a move on then! Good thing the intake im going for is September :lol:
Thankfully i get to "pretend" im in the airforce while i do the NMIT course before recruit course.

If i get in!! *fingers crossed*

Na, you'll be right..... Swimming and cycling are good to "Mix it up" a bit....
Woodbourne has a great pool, and lots of back roads, and places you can bike.....

Then you could always run around the Air Field.....

[sAsLEX]

Then you could always run around the Air Field.....

Done that a couple of times, you forget how long the fuckin things are!

[quickbuck]

Done that a couple of times, you forget how long the fuckin things are!
Long??? Na... Woodbourne takes less than 20 minutes.
Ohakea is about 13k, if you take the road. You can't actually run all the way round inside the fence....

For myself I have to actually run for about an hour before it does me any good anyway.... Can't do intervals, I reckon they suck....
May be it is just that when i get out, i want to be away for a very long time....

[wbks]

I wonder if it's even possible to cut almost 15 min 2.4 times down to at least 12 in around a month?...
Would doing a timed 2.4 every day be the best way forward?

[Toaster]

But then what do I know, I'm in a cushy Air Force job....

You really are asking for a ribbing with that one!! Ever watch Blackadder goes forth?

I remember my 9 month basic training course for the navy officer common training. I came out of that at 71kgs and could run 30 km a day and ran three times a day. We were exhausted, starving hungry half the time, and made to exercise heavily twice to three times a day with little sleep. Good discipline in those days. 20 years ago now. They have gotten real soft from what I see and hear from those still in the job.

[sAsLEX]

You really are asking for a ribbing with that one!! Ever watch Blackadder goes forth?

I remember my 9 month basic training course for the navy officer common training. I came out of that at 71kgs and could run 30 km a day and ran three times a day. We were exhausted, starving hungry half the time, and made to exercise heavily twice to three times a day with little sleep. Good discipline in those days. 20 years ago now. They have gotten real soft from what I see and hear from those still in the job.

Yeah OSH, being PC and Females have kind of forced training to become easier.

[k14]

give the recruitment office a call, and give them shit! got me sussed priti quickly, im doing sub 10 min 2.4's atm 60 sit ups but only 15 pushups (not my strong point)
im still thinking about specializations thats why i asked how long it takes....

" I know it's getting more competitive all the time" recruiter said (based on my aptitude tests) as long as i pass the fitness tests i have a position reserved on the AARC
Use this website http://hundredpushups.com/ I did it for racing and got up to 60 press ups. Just follow the program and it will work really well. Haven't done it for a month and can still do 40.

[wbks]

Use this website http://hundredpushups.com/ I did it for racing and got up to 60 press ups. Just follow the program and it will work really well. Haven't done it for a month and can still do 40.Does the angle of your arms matter? It's a lot easier to do them with my elbows virtually touching my ribs when I do them, compared to squared off

[Toaster]

Does the angle of your arms matter? It's a lot easier to do them with my elbows virtually touching my ribs when I do them, compared to squared off

Close in is more of a chest exercise. Arms out from the body is how the police do them, which is both chest and arms (or should I say more arms than chest).

[huff3r]

Does the angle of your arms matter? It's a lot easier to do them with my elbows virtually touching my ribs when I do them, compared to squared off

Check the army website, it should say how they want you to do them. If not then the Airforce site definitely does ;)

[sil3nt]

I wonder if it's even possible to cut almost 15 min 2.4 times down to at least 12 in around a month?...
Would doing a timed 2.4 every day be the best way forward?Don't run 2.4km in training! You need to run more than that. Look at this http://www.army.mil.nz/careers/joining-up/fitness-planner/default.htm

Find out which week your fitness level matches and go from there. I reckon you could do it. Aim for longer timed runs rather than shorter set distance runs.

Hands under the shoulder in the army. Elbows pointed back. If you practice with wide arm stance you will find yourself in a bit of trouble as it works a completely different muscle set!

[quickbuck]

You really are asking for a ribbing with that one!! Ever watch Blackadder goes forth?

.
"Ever felt the wind in your hair???"
Ppppffffftttttt

"He has"

[Toaster]

Don't run 2.4km in training! You need to run more than that. Look at this http://www.army.mil.nz/careers/joining-up/fitness-planner/default.htm

Find out which week your fitness level matches and go from there. I reckon you could do it. Aim for longer timed runs rather than shorter set distance runs.

Hands under the shoulder in the army. Elbows pointed back. If you practice with wide arm stance you will find yourself in a bit of trouble as it works a completely different muscle set!

Actrually it would be a good idea to practice both kinds of pressups. Both are beneficial and good for overall muscle development. I agree about the runs. Hard out longer distance runs are a good idea. I used to run as far as I could in one direction and then once stuffed, turn around and run back.

[sil3nt]

Actrually it would be a good idea to practice both kinds of pressups. Both are beneficial and good for overall muscle development. I agree about the runs. Hard out longer distance runs are a good idea. I used to run as far as I could in one direction and then once stuffed, turn around and run back.Yep definitely practice both types but if your only gonna do one make it the right one :bleh:

[sAsLEX]

Did 9.5km at lunch time today, averaged 4 and a half minutes a k, and did the last k in 3 minutes, which would be pushing G1 in the run test.

I think it is important to run some practise RFLs seeing how early you can kick up a gear, and even run a few back to back to see how you go when you are a little tired.

[wbks]

Did 9.5km at lunch time today, averaged 4 and a half minutes a k, and did the last k in 3 minutes, which would be pushing G1 in the run test.

I think it is important to run some practise RFLs seeing how early you can kick up a gear, and even run a few back to back to see how you go when you are a little tired.... That's "OK"...
I was kind of planning on doing mainly RFL level runs, anyway. Running longer than 10 or so minutes gets seriously boring unless you're running with someone else or something

[sAsLEX]

... That's "OK"...
I was kind of planning on doing mainly RFL level runs, anyway. Running longer than 10 or so minutes gets seriously boring unless you're running with someone else or something

Yeah running by yourself is a little average, but if you lack the commitment to do that, maybe you should rethink your career plan?

You could show some courage and find a running partner? Then you might find a little comradeship....

[Delerium]

got C3I much? :P

[wbks]

Yeah running by yourself is a little average, but if you lack the commitment to do that, maybe you should rethink your career plan?

You could show some courage and find a running partner? Then you might find a little comradeship....lol, I didn't say I couldn't do it, I just said it's seriously boring and would prefer shorter, more intense runs

[wbks]

anyone know the story with fitness testing? I was under the impression that you need to be at EFL level (12min 2.4, 16 pressups/40 situps) but my letter states it's a RFL (10 mins 2.4 etc)... Do you really need to be at less than 10 to be accepted into AARC?

[specter]

Got to agree with that.
The thing about fitness, is that it is MORE than being able to run so fast, sit up so much, and press up your upper body...

Those are the gauges that are used, BUT in actual fact, the fitter you are the less fatigued you will be by the end of the day.

In fact, I would say that if you are up to the minimum level, you will still feel stuffed by 1500 every day on BASIC. Then the next couple of hours are hell.....
If you are fitter than the minimum, you can continue to concentrate until well into the evening......

But then what do I know, I'm in a cushy Air Force job....

well to be honest im an endurance runner primarily! i just speed up my running specifically for the 2.4

[huff3r]

Phew, did an 8km pack-march with my 20kg pack yesterday morning. I'm gonna have to do plenty more haha. I could probably make it within the required time, but not comfortably and i'd rather be able to do it no sweat :D

[slydesigns]

Ex army Ammunition Technician - 10 years served got out 4 years back. Raced MX for the Army in Trentham and Linton and while over in Timor on NZBATT1 (Darwin MX Champs 125 A grade - 10th overall - not the best result but still a fun day for free)
Trentham Camp - 1BSB, 5Log Regt, 5BLG
Waiouru - 4Log Regt, WSS, Ammo Platoon
Linton - 21 Field Sup Coy
NZBATT1
IEDD Team Member



anyone know the story with fitness testing? I was under the impression that you need to be at EFL level (12min 2.4, 16 pressups/40 situps) but my letter states it's a RFL (10 mins 2.4 etc)... Do you really need to be at less than 10 to be accepted into AARC?

For males, 10 min, sub 10 preferred to keep the PTI's off your back, 28 pressups, over 30 preferred, 66 situps, 130 should be your target.
I'm 37 and go 8.30 runs 45 pressups and 130 plus situps. I can do the King of the Mountain run at Mt Maunganui in 31mins and the Capital city 10km in 42 mins. I have had 9 dislocated knees and 2 rebuilds, 7 punctured lungs, 1 snapped ankle ligament, 1 dislocated hip, 2 snapped and repinned thumbs, 1 broken arm and wrist and shattered my collarbone in 5 places from MX racing.
No excuses for any serving male soldier or intending soilder under my age NOT to acheive the same or better. Not preaching, this is the attitude your going to run smack bang into once you join and its not negotiable. You'll either acheive it or you'll be a target.

You might want to sort out your pullups while your at it. Thats the latest craze to get hazed over. 10 plus, fully up... hold... fully down... hold... would see you be a grey man. Being a grey man is good.

No matter how much it hurts, smile. They want to see spirit, courage, drive, determination. Because while its hard now, its worse in a hole like Timor or Afghanistan, where its either too hot, too cold, too wet, everythings going to sh*t in a handbag and you just want to go sleep and go home. They want the guy/girl who, despite this, will pick up their lip and do their job, no matter how mundane and be a team player and not a liability.


Actrually it would be a good idea to practice both kinds of pressups. Both are beneficial and good for overall muscle development. I agree about the runs. Hard out longer distance runs are a good idea. I used to run as far as I could in one direction and then once stuffed, turn around and run back.

Definitely do both variations on the pressups AND practice a few Diamond pressups, they will hit you with these for punishment. I used them on the range for basics who didn't pay attention to Explosive lectures. If you fail them the whole class does them for you and they sort the bill out with you later...

Running - we go from the Gym in Waiouru, out the Mad Mile rd past the ammo dump and around Robinsons Pond to the highway at the railway overbridge as you approach Waiouru from Welington, back to camp and into the pool for 25 lengths and compulsory exercises. Thats about and hour and a half running and swimming. Pays to come prepared. And get used to running alone and in silence. Another evil of the PTI's is to send you to the Seven Sins - 7 ultra steep tanktracks/firebreask next to each other and make one partner run up and down in a race, while the other does pressups the whole time. Then repeat until all 7 sins ran. Its killer and to add insult the PTI's (Cpl Bevan Cranstoun was the best at it) would do them all by themselves and still smoke us and punish those they beat for it!

If you beat them you still chose to do the punishment along side those that failed - Army is a team one in all in.

If that sounds gay, choose another profession.

End of rant.

[Bald Eagle]

Who here are either currently serving or ex armed services?
Me, Im an ex RNZAF SGT,served in the mob for 13 years, been in civvy street about 14 years now

Related trade ... 17yrs NZ Police .. almost recovered :lol:

[slydesigns]

that counts... my brother just joined the police, starte college on sunday - fool! lol

Wants to kick in doors dressed in black I think.

[wbks]

Ex army Ammunition Technician

Thanks for the info. I'm not excusing myself, and I know a 17 y/o dude who has only had 2 dislocated knees should be able to keep up with a 37 y/o with a speight of them (wholy crap, btw) but I've just been a couch potato for too long and I'm paying for it now. I know sub ten is good, but I'll be lucky to get 12 mins by next tuesday... Which I assume is good enough for the time being, as that is the EFL and I'm told (tauranga recruitment office) that the written tests are the most important, and as long as they see you getting fit enough by the time the AARC starts you are safe... I really hope that is the way it is. He mentioned something about training days (not AARC) after aptitude/fitness testing? Do you know anything about that?

[jamessmith]

alot younger that slydesigns, but my fastest was 8.40 for a 2.4. 60 pressups and endless situps. 1hr40 for BFT while alone (they really are pathetically easy)
long runs with sprints i feel was the best way, its how the pti's and ncos ran us in battalion. first thing youll learn is how to block out the shit and abuse, keep a smile on the inside and keep moving. fast as possible... we ran one run with a PTI who came from Battalion, and he was the man. he ran us from the gym, round waitangi, up ruperts hill down mad mile, round robertsons, out to grenade range and then gave us times to get up this mother fucker of a hill buy grenade range. ofcourse we naver made the time so up we kept going.... point is. 1 guy had a heartattack, and 1 got carried away temp blinded.. crazy shit.
obviously heart attack guy was sent home, but blind guy is still in... whether he actually went blind or not, who knows.

[wbks]

So I've been told by the recruiter that fitness is an ongoing thing until the AARC date so long as you have no health issues and have a shot at it, but I'm just wondering if I should bother running 5+ km runs on alternate days (2.4 best effort between that) or if I might as well keep going 2.4's every night until Tuesday (testing/judgment day)? Some of you guys are extremely fit (at least compared to me) and everyone started off slow some time so you may have some idea?

[huff3r]

So I've been told by the recruiter that fitness is an ongoing thing until the AARC date so long as you have no health issues and have a shot at it, but I'm just wondering if I should bother running 5+ km runs on alternate days (2.4 best effort between that) or if I might as well keep going 2.4's every night until Tuesday (testing/judgment day)? Some of you guys are extremely fit (at least compared to me) and everyone started off slow some time so you may have some idea?

Shit now i feel like a slacker. I'm counting on having free time to get fit during the pre-entry course i have to do for my trade (if i make it ;) ). At the moment between work, and fixing my car i have very little free time! Especially since i do 6-day weeks :lol:

My Push-ups are doing well though, and the Airforce fitness level does seem reasonably easy, as long as i keep on working towards it :D

[rustic101]

Join the Air Force, feel a new man every day!!!
Join the Navy and be that man!!!!!.... lol

Ex Army SNCO here, now employed with another service.... ;)

[specter]

Hands under the shoulder in the army. Elbows pointed back. If you practice with wide arm stance you will find yourself in a bit of trouble as it works a completely different muscle set!

lol turns out i can do 25 the proper way! will be achieving G1 by next week!:innocent:

[slydesigns]

YOu bloody better Spectre or I'll come over and run you over the saddle a few times for remedials!!

[specter]

hey im keen for a running partner! as i dont see cowboyz joining me anytime soon! :bleh:

[1vanvan1]

Shit now i feel like a slacker. I'm counting on having free time to get fit during the pre-entry course i have to do for my trade (if i make it ;) ). At the moment between work, and fixing my car i have very little free time! Especially since i do 6-day weeks :lol:

My Push-ups are doing well though, and the Airforce fitness level does seem reasonably easy, as long as i keep on working towards it :D

The Air Force fitness is very easy. The amount of fitness you do during your PT periods on recruit course is enough to get you through it. Just the fitter you go in the easier you will find it. Pushups is the only thing you really need to work on. The technique is the main thing you need to worry about, On my first test they only counted 34 of the 40+ i did. You'll understand when you do it I guess unless you perfect your technique by then. Just get a mate to watch you from front on to see if you go down parallel with the flor maintaining a straight line from head to heal.

Hope that helps.

[wbks]

Shit now i feel like a slacker. I'm counting on having free time to get fit during the pre-entry course i have to do for my trade (if i make it ;) ). At the moment between work, and fixing my car i have very little free time! Especially since i do 6-day weeks :lol:

My Push-ups are doing well though, and the Airforce fitness level does seem reasonably easy, as long as i keep on working towards it :Dlol I'm the slacker in this thread. If I started earlier at this pace I would probably be doing sub tens, this is just the equivalent of opening your text books the night before exams :D
Does anyone know for sure if that's how they do situps in the entire army scene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7lAt4uDCZk

[huff3r]

The Air Force fitness is very easy. The amount of fitness you do during your PT periods on recruit course is enough to get you through it. Just the fitter you go in the easier you will find it. Pushups is the only thing you really need to work on. The technique is the main thing you need to worry about, On my first test they only counted 34 of the 40+ i did. You'll understand when you do it I guess unless you perfect your technique by then. Just get a mate to watch you from front on to see if you go down parallel with the flor maintaining a straight line from head to heal.

Hope that helps.

Sweet, thats good to know. Less than a month till i find out too...

Not too excited yet :blink::shit:

Wiill have to find out more about the motorsport groups in the Airforce too, my BMWs almost running again :shifty:

[1vanvan1]

Sweet, thats good to know. Less than a month till i find out too...

Not too excited yet :blink::shit:

Wiill have to find out more about the motorsport groups in the Airforce too, my BMWs almost running again :shifty:

Yeah, They have a motorsport group thing here. They had some time trial race thing a month or so back for cars. Didn't let me take my bike in it though. Guess they were scared out out run everyone :P

[Hoon]

but I'm just wondering if I should bother running 5+ km runs on alternate days (2.4 best effort between that) or if I might as well keep going 2.4's every night until Tuesday (testing/judgment day)?
Just go 2.4km's everyday except the last. I've had 10 years experience cramming for RFL's last minute and haven't failed one yet (around the 9m30-10m30 mark). Fartlek training works best for me. Instead of running 2.4km try 6 x 400m in 1m40 with 1m20 rest in between. When I can do them comfortable (after a week or so) then move up to 3 x 800m in 3m20 with 1m40 rests, then up to 2 x 1200m in 5mins. You can adjust the times/reps to suit your level or goal. Leading up to D-Day I also like to run a few timed RFL's on the actual ground when possible.

[jamessmith]

lol I'm the slacker in this thread. If I started earlier at this pace I would probably be doing sub tens, this is just the equivalent of opening your text books the night before exams :D
Does anyone know for sure if that's how they do situps in the entire army scene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7lAt4uDCZk

that is the situp.. thats why i said they can be done endlessly.. theyre pathetically easy

[jamessmith]

lol I'm the slacker in this thread. If I started earlier at this pace I would probably be doing sub tens, this is just the equivalent of opening your text books the night before exams :D
Does anyone know for sure if that's how they do situps in the entire army scene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7lAt4uDCZk

that is the situp.. thats why i said they can be done endlessly.. theyre pathetically easy

[specter]

Sooo.... as my aarc looms nearer and nearer, are there any tips to make life easier! (and not get yelled at as much :shutup:)

[Delerium]

Join the Air Force, feel a new man every day!!!
Join the Navy and be that man!!!!!.... lol

Ex Army SNCO here, now employed with another service.... ;)

lol, I went the other way.

[Gibbo13p]

Sooo.... as my aarc looms nearer and nearer, are there any tips to make life easier! (and not get yelled at as much :shutup:)

Take everything as it comes, don't be an individual, do as your fkn told and remember you wanted to be there so make the most of it while you can..... ;-)

[specter]

Take everything as it comes, don't be an individual, do as your fkn told and remember you wanted to be there so make the most of it while you can..... ;-)

haha that was the approach i was going for!

[sAsLEX]

Sooo.... as my aarc looms nearer and nearer, are there any tips to make life easier! (and not get yelled at as much :shutup:)

The Senior NCO is always right.

[huff3r]

The Senior NCO is always right.

And i got a hint from my mate whos in the Airforce. Don't wolf-whistle at a female NCO, regardless of wether she is hot or not. Unless you enjoy doing laps of the barracks with your whole barrack-group :lol:

[NZ CBR]

I was 4 years in 2/1 RNZIR, miss it everyday but I cant go back as my hearing is screwed from when I was in. Theres a Bike group called the Patriots for ex/current service pers.

[quickbuck]

Wiill have to find out more about the motorsport groups in the Airforce too, my BMWs almost running again :shifty:
If you get posted to Ohakea after training.... Then look me up (if I'm still there).

[quickbuck]

Yeah, They have a motorsport group thing here. They had some time trial race thing a month or so back for cars. Didn't let me take my bike in it though. Guess they were scared out out run everyone :P

Not the case at Ohakea.
Mind, last time I entered a Bent sprint on the bike i was sick of the power Slides all over the slurry, so went and got my ute, and got fastest ute of the day.
Left the sideways bike action to Chappy on the Team Air Force Race bike....

2 weekends ago we had a 6 hour Mopedathon for 50cc bikes.... which went well.


Tomorrow we have a 3 hour Grass Enduro for cars.... Should be fun.

So, heaps to get involved with on Ohakea if you are a petrol head.

Auckland is similar, and they are very active in motorcycling mentoring on Wednesday Afternoon Rides.
I must get that going again at Ohakea. (Yes, me, myself, I).
So, yeah

[huff3r]

If you get posted to Ohakea after training.... Then look me up (if I'm still there).

Yep, definitely will!!


Not the case at Ohakea.
Mind, last time I entered a Bent sprint on the bike i was sick of the power Slides all over the slurry, so went and got my ute, and got fastest ute of the day.
Left the sideways bike action to Chappy on the Team Air Force Race bike....

2 weekends ago we had a 6 hour Mopedathon for 50cc bikes.... which went well.


Tomorrow we have a 3 hour Grass Enduro for cars.... Should be fun.

So, heaps to get involved with on Ohakea if you are a petrol head.

Auckland is similar, and they are very active in motorcycling mentoring on Wednesday Afternoon Rides.
I must get that going again at Ohakea. (Yes, me, myself, I).
So, yeah

Sounds pretty awesome, I'd love to do some fun grass sprints and such. All ive taken my car out for so far is the intermarque sprints at manfeild, although its built to E30 Race-series specs so I am planning on doing that when i can afford to :D

[specter]

I was 4 years in 2/1 RNZIR, miss it everyday but I cant go back as my hearing is screwed from when I was in. Theres a Bike group called the Patriots for ex/current service pers.

sounds cool! might have to find them!

[Gibbo13p]

The Senior NCO is always right.

Sgt GIBSON , 5wwct at your service

[specter]

hey has anyone here tested the HK417, i heard they could be integrated as a marksman rifle.... how would i get my hands on one of those?

[wbks]

hey has anyone here tested the HK417, i heard they could be integrated as a marksman rifle.... how would i get my hands on one of those?

Speaking of the m16 branch offs, does anyone know if M4/C8's are used in the NZ Army anywhere apart from in the SAS? Just curious

[specter]

Speaking of the m16 branch offs, does anyone know if M4/C8's are used in the NZ Army anywhere apart from in the SAS? Just curious

SAS im priti sure......

[sAsLEX]

Sgt GIBSON , 5wwct at your service

He was talking about training.........


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Nice day at the office, shame HMAS ANZAC couldn't keep her station, ruined a good phot.

[dogsnbikes]

Nice day at the office, shame HMAS ANZAC couldn't keep her station, ruined a good phot.

Speaking of good photo shots here is some from Canterbury's world deployment in 1993

1st photo is at Old town Stockholm midsummer holiday weekend

the 2nd and 3rd are on our first departure day from Auckland its also the day our wasp went swimming :innocent:

[sAsLEX]

Speaking of good photo shots here is some from Canterbury's world deployment in 1993

1st photo is at Old town Stockholm midsummer holiday weekend

the 2nd and 3rd are on our first departure day from Auckland its also the day our wasp went swimming :innocent:

My ship is going around the pacific shortly (about the closest we will get to a world tour these days), to go to the International Fleet Review off Vancouver......... shame I get posted off in Singapore on the way up : (

[huff3r]

Phew, was up at my mates 20th yesterday (works Supply at Ohakea), met a whole bunch of air-force guys and even got breakfast at the mess this morning. Wow im impressed, and totally jealous. The food is awesome :lol:

Also had one of the guys who joined us at breakfast talking about the grass-sprint, apparently their wheel came off but they still got a good placing. Sounds like good fun!!

[specter]

FFS still doing only 25 pushups!!!!! do ya think i can squeese another 5 out of myself by wednesday?
BTW f@#KING EXCITED!!!!

[huff3r]

FFS still doing only 25 pushups!!!!! do ya think i can squeese another 5 out of myself by wednesday?
BTW f@#KING EXCITED!!!!

Have you been using that 100pushups site? I've found it to be really good. And next time when you reach 25, keep going to 30, no matter what. Im sure you'll make it...

I feel like i can only do 25ish but i know i can do 30 myself, but i have heapsa time to prepare lol

[wbks]

FFS still doing only 25 pushups!!!!! do ya think i can squeese another 5 out of myself by wednesday?
BTW f@#KING EXCITED!!!!Is this your AARC or just test?

[specter]

Have you been using that 100pushups site? I've found it to be really good. And next time when you reach 25, keep going to 30, no matter what. Im sure you'll make it...

I feel like i can only do 25ish but i know i can do 30 myself, but i have heapsa time to prepare lol

yea i am using it, and its really helping with my sit ups, maybe its just a mental barrier i have to break when it comes to pushups


Is this your AARC or just test?

just my test.... but i want to do my best!!! by the time my AARC looms around ill be really fit!

[specter]

finished my orientation day!
2.4k in 9.55 min
30 push ups
130 sit ups (they wouldn't let me do any more!!)

so Ive signed up for the next one so i can show them how much Ive improved in 3 weeks!
better start training!

[wbks]

What did you guys think of the actual written tests? The first two, logic and maths, were harder than expected. Logic isn't really something you can practice either.

[slydesigns]

Speaking of the m16 branch offs, does anyone know if M4/C8's are used in the NZ Army anywhere apart from in the SAS? Just curious

You'll find out when you get in, if you pick the right trade, and most of all if you're really required to know...

[sAsLEX]

The most airpower you will ever see in NZ

<img src=http://static.stuff.co.nz/1269402455/722/3501722.jpg>

[huff3r]

What did you guys think of the actual written tests? The first two, logic and maths, were harder than expected. Logic isn't really something you can practice either.

Thought they were cruisy. Although logic and advanced maths were the only two i finished, but the rest werent so much tricky, just not entirely easy to do quick :yes:

[wbks]

Thought they were cruisy. Although logic and advanced maths were the only two i finished, but the rest werent so much tricky, just not entirely easy to do quick :yes:Wierd, I did "really well" on the rest, which were matching words of the same meaning and mechanics if I remember right, but did horribly on the first two. At least you can learn mechanics or english, can't really get any better at basic logic, huh...

[huff3r]

Wierd, I did "really well" on the rest, which were matching words of the same meaning and mechanics if I remember right, but did horribly on the first two. At least you can learn mechanics or english, can't really get any better at basic logic, huh...

Yeah, did alright on the matching words one, probably finished 3/4s... they dont do mechanics for the airforce anymore though apparently, they said it wasnt a very representative test, but i looked at the practice ones anyway and easy peasy :D (i did a Motorsport tech course which covered it all in 2008 )

[wbks]

Yeah, did alright on the matching words one, probably finished 3/4s... they dont do mechanics for the airforce anymore though apparently, they said it wasnt a very representative test, but i looked at the practice ones anyway and easy peasy :D (i did a Motorsport tech course which covered it all in 2008 )
They asked some random questions for mechanics though, like "what is a griding wheel made of" or "which is easiest to lathe" (options like aluminium/copper/brass) apart from the normal "what is an o ring for"

[specter]

well heres my next goal........
drop 2 min of 2.4 times (this Fartlek training seems to be the way to go about it)

add 25 push ups ( using hundredpushups.com)

"proper" army sit ups are a pathetic excuse.. the recruiter even knows that, he didn't even watch most of us and took our word for it...
but just to finish my rant keep the 130 situps going....

all of this to be achieved within 3 weeks (my next orientation day) and then its back to focusing on enduro

[sapperj]

LCPL,
25 ESS / 2 Engineer Regiment
2 Construction Troop

Been there for 2 years, was SaS before that... (Saturday and Sundays)...

LTD

[huff3r]

Got the call on my birthday! (15th April).
Offer of Service showed up last week, so I'm all good to go.
Now to sell the car so i can afford to live in blenheim for that NMIT course haha.
Anyone else here for the September Airforce RC?

[huff3r]

Had my medical on Wednesday, so hopefully, all going well, I'll be off to Blenheim in a scarily short amount of time. Better start getting fit :lol:

[specter]

hey congrats huff3r!

lol i thought this thread died ages ago.... but keen to keep it going...
got selection late may so ill get to find out myself then!

hehe in my interview the recruiter was all weird with me because i aced the mechanics test, but could not tell him where i learn't it all...
i just told him Ive just remembered stuff Ive read or heard over my lifetime, he didn't like that :lol:

[huff3r]

hey congrats huff3r!

lol i thought this thread died ages ago.... but keen to keep it going...
got selection late may so ill get to find out myself then!

hehe in my interview the recruiter was all weird with me because i aced the mechanics test, but could not tell him where i learn't it all...
i just told him Ive just remembered stuff Ive read or heard over my lifetime, he didn't like that :lol:

Good luck!
Kinda wish i had a mechanics test now haha, cos im sure i woulda aced it too!

Just gotta have a hearing test for my medical, because the one they did was in a bad environment with bad equipment so i did pretty poorly...

And then I'm off to blenheim, and i cant wait! Get to pretend im in the Airforce for 17 weeks, living in barracks and eating in the mess, and then Recruit course after that :D

What were you going for again?

[1vanvan1]

Good luck!
Kinda wish i had a mechanics test now haha, cos im sure i woulda aced it too!

Just gotta have a hearing test for my medical, because the one they did was in a bad environment with bad equipment so i did pretty poorly...

And then I'm off to blenheim, and i cant wait! Get to pretend im in the Airforce for 17 weeks, living in barracks and eating in the mess, and then Recruit course after that :D

What were you going for again?

Good news dude!!

Living in Barracks isnt as good as you think. it gets pretty boring pretty quick. Well that how i found it. Although I have been living with the same people for 6 months plus now.

You'll have to let me know when your heading down here. Im living in Barracks down here at the moment until about mid August.

[huff3r]

Good news dude!!

Living in Barracks isnt as good as you think. it gets pretty boring pretty quick. Well that how i found it. Although I have been living with the same people for 6 months plus now.

You'll have to let me know when your heading down here. Im living in Barracks down here at the moment until about mid August.

Cheers, yeah it sounds like it'll be a lot like living in the student accomodation at Wintec haha.

My course starts on the 31st of May, so I guess i'll be going down that weekend or something... as long as my hearing is actually up to par, never had any issues with it so i hope so!!!

[1vanvan1]

Cheers, yeah it sounds like it'll be a lot like living in the student accomodation at Wintec haha.

My course starts on the 31st of May, so I guess i'll be going down that weekend or something... as long as my hearing is actually up to par, never had any issues with it so i hope so!!!

Sweet dude. Ill be home mid may and come back down on the 30th. Should catch up and go for a ride or something!

[huff3r]

Sweet dude. Ill be home mid may and come back down on the 30th. Should catch up and go for a ride or something!

Id be keen for that... if i were bringing the bike, but as it stands i'll probably be taking the racecar... (the bikes dads, and im selling my other car so it's all thats left :lol:)

[Laxi]

Id be keen for that... if i were bringing the bike, but as it stands i'll probably be taking the racecar... (the bikes dads, and im selling my other car so it's all thats left :lol:)

JEEEZE HUFF :no: :rofl:

[1vanvan1]

Id be keen for that... if i were bringing the bike, but as it stands i'll probably be taking the racecar... (the bikes dads, and im selling my other car so it's all thats left :lol:)

Oh that unfortunate. Im taking my bike home in may anyway. Forgot about that! Well flick me a PM closer to the time and I will keep an eye out for you. no doubt ill see you everyday as we will be working in th same area

[specter]

just signed my offer of service today...
leaving for waiouru on monday :eek:

[Gibbo13p]

Good luck mate, try an take it how it comes, roll with it and enjoy yourself basic doesn't last forever! Mid winter one at that ...hard man ;-)

[specter]

Good luck mate, try an take it how it comes, roll with it and enjoy yourself basic doesn't last forever! Mid winter one at that ...hard man ;-)

yep ive already bought merino!

[Macontour]

26 years TF here. Currently CQ for a rifle Company in Auckland. Did NZBatt 6 in 2002 and loved my time there. Just dida RFL today, my slowest time ever, even worse than 3 weeks ago but then I am 48 and have a bad back limiting my training. 11.46 for the run, 27 press-ups and 130 curl ups. My pressups are still by the book though from start to finish. My attitude to the run is that it will alays hurt but the faster you go the less time it wll hurt for.

Always got a G1 until a couple of years ago.

[quickbuck]

Did NZBatt 6 in 2002 and loved my time there. .

Hey,
I was over there then....

20 Years up for me today!

[specter]

20 Years up for me today!

congrats man!

[quickbuck]

congrats man!Thank you.
I have a 10 year extension that I will be using for a bit... However I am looking at doing more outside the force.
You guys and girls may very well see more of me, if you know what I mean.

[specter]

Thank you.
I have a 10 year extension that I will be using for a bit... However I am looking at doing more outside the force.
You guys and girls may very well see more of me, if you know what I mean.

youre gonna lose the plot and go on a rampage? :lol:

[quickbuck]

youre gonna lose the plot and go on a rampage? :lol:

Yeah, something like that ;)

Trained how to use automatic weapons, and climb tall structures...

Na, actually my signature block will give you a clue.

[Macontour]

Hey,
I was over there then....

20 Years up for me today!

I was there as a Truckie. If you were at the APOD in Suai I probably delivered water to you many a time. This is my 26th year TF, still enjoying it.

[quickbuck]

I was there as a Truckie. If you were at the APOD in Suai I probably delivered water to you many a time. This is my 26th year TF, still enjoying it.

ANZAC Lines actually.....
Water... Yup, never drunk so much.

Seriously we went through more in a day than I would drink in a week at home.

[huff3r]

Its coming to that time.... almost finished my AEF course, so I've got recruit coming up, starting Tuesday the 14th :yes:

Really can't wait, it certainly has been a long time coming! :D

[wbks]

well heres my next goal........
drop 2 min of 2.4 times (this Fartlek training seems to be the way to go about it)

add 25 push ups ( using hundredpushups.com)

"proper" army sit ups are a pathetic excuse.. the recruiter even knows that, he didn't even watch most of us and took our word for it...
but just to finish my rant keep the 130 situps going....

all of this to be achieved within 3 weeks (my next orientation day) and then its back to focusing on enduroJust thought I'd drag this topic up again for a quick question to anyone else who has been in the same boat (and of course specter if he's not in his AARC atm: Whats the best way for the average guy to go from a very average 2.4km time (12 mins in my case) to an acceptable one (10min) as fast as possible? Been doing more 2.4s than I can count, and it brought my time down almost a minute, but now I can't seem to move off this mark, but I'm trying to get there as soon as possible hoping to _____ that I might be able to get into the January or February AARC. It's a little frustrating considering that I've fixed the problem that had me failed when I took the written tests earlier this year (maths), my push ups are fine, and so are my crunches (or "situps", which aren't), but this is still holding me back...

[Delerium]

Mix it up a bit, do some longer runs and some interval training too.

[Gibbo13p]

Yep interval training and jog sprints alternate power poles on your long runs

[wbks]

This a good enough one?
http://www.intervaltraining.net/HiitTraining-60.html
Seems strange, I kind of always figured you had to run like a kenyan to run faster any distance. Does that HIIT thing every second day, with a 2.4 in between sound good, or should I still be running longer, with maybe one or two 2.4's a week to gauge progress?

[jamessmith]

Forget the 2.4.
Run longer up to 2 hours. A good faster jog wih a few sprints just chucked in there.

In the army the PT sessions were hour or hour and half. Very fast and usually uphill, very repetative and all timed. And you will never make the time given.

My advice. Long runs. plent of sprints. uphill sprints. maybe some aqua jogging.
The 2.4 km run will be the easiest run you will ever do!

My time was 8.30 at best. Not the best but deffinatly in the better group.

[Hoon]

12 mins is just an average jog pace. If you HAVE been training and are still at 12 mins then you are either fat or lazy or old.

Fat? Eat less
Lazy? Work harder
Old? Work even harder

I agree with all the above posts. What I do is run longer distances first and work up to being able to jog say 8km every 2nd day first to condition the body, then change to interval training. If your goal is 10mins then start off with 6 x 400m sprints in 1m40 with 1 min rest in between. Once you can complete all 6 under 1m40 then move up to 3 x 800m in 3m20, then onto 2 x 1200m in 5mins. If you don't condition your body first you won't be able to hack it and give up as it will be your first introduction to pain if you've been avoiding it. The mind will say anything to get you back onto the couch but the stopwatch never lies.

[wbks]

Forget the 2.4.
Run longer up to 2 hours. A good faster jog wih a few sprints just chucked in there.

In the army the PT sessions were hour or hour and half. Very fast and usually uphill, very repetative and all timed. And you will never make the time given.

My advice. Long runs. plent of sprints. uphill sprints. maybe some aqua jogging.
The 2.4 km run will be the easiest run you will ever do!

My time was 8.30 at best. Not the best but deffinatly in the better group.Sounds impressive to me. When you say "you will never make the time", is that telling me I shouldn't be thinking of basic just yet, or just saying how hard it is? Thanks for the advice.

12 mins is just an average jog pace. If you HAVE been training and are still at 12 mins then you are either fat or lazy or old.

Fat? Eat less
Lazy? Work harder
Old? Work even harder

I agree with all the above posts. What I do is run longer distances first and work up to being able to jog say 8km every 2nd day first to condition the body, then change to interval training. If your goal is 10mins then start off with 6 x 400m sprints in 1m40 with 1 min rest in between. Once you can complete all 6 under 1m40 then move up to 3 x 800m in 3m20, then onto 2 x 1200m in 5mins. If you don't condition your body first you won't be able to hack it and give up as it will be your first introduction to pain if you've been avoiding it. The mind will say anything to get you back onto the couch but the stopwatch never lies.I wouldn't call myself lazy considering I've gone from 96kg to 76 so far this year, but maybe I'm not quite off the fatty wagon just yet haha.
So what you're saying is do long runs to build up endurance and then split up the 2.4 and do it at the right pace in sections until I can do the whole thing. Sounds like that makes sense I guess. Just wondering how long this is going to take, I'd love to make it by early next year... I'll go for a longer run today.

[Hoon]

By next year?!?!? You could prepare for a Marathon in that time :)

Thats what I normally do for my RFL buildup. I'm TF, 39, 178cm, 90kg and run a 9:20-10:30 RFL depending on its importance:) I start training about 4 weeks out depending on my current level of fitness (usually around the 11:30-12min mark) every 2nd day. I like to do at least 2 weeks of intervals and then finish off with 2 practice RFLs at pace before the actual date.

To be honest I only bother with the 6x400m in sub 1m40s to get me prepared these days but a lot depends on how hard you are willing to push yourself during trainings.

[wbks]

By next year?!?!? You could prepare for a Marathon in that time :)

Thats what I normally do for my RFL buildup. I'm TF, 39, 178cm, 90kg and run a 9:20-10:30 RFL depending on its importance:) I start training about 4 weeks out depending on my current level of fitness (usually around the 11:30-12min mark) every 2nd day. I like to do at least 2 weeks of intervals and then finish off with 2 practice RFLs at pace before the actual date.

To be honest I only bother with the 6x400m in sub 1m40s to get me prepared these days but a lot depends on how hard you are willing to push yourself during trainings.
I guess I'll start doing as close to 8k every second day for two weeks then try the intervals for two weeks then?
EDIT: I don't think I've ever ran so far hahaha. Not quite 8k (7.3 according to google earth), but I'd like to think the fact that it was pissing down and blowing these supposedly 130 km/h winds makes up for it, about a km is up/down hills. One question to you guys who obviously run more often then me though: Do your knees get sore after quite a few km's? Or when you haven't run that in a while? I have had trouble in the past with bad patella alignment in my left knee, and both of them click a little bit, but they have never felt uncomfortable at all when running until the last km or so of this run, but I'm not sure if it's worth a visit to the doctor to. Tempted to just do 8k on Wednesday and see if they feel stiff again. Maybe it was just running in the cold/rain that did it:doh:

[awayatc]

no need to run

just learn how to shoot......

[jamessmith]

What I mean by youll never make the time... PTI's just love to punish recruits. The first PT session is pure murder. And it dosnt get any easier. Youll never make the time because they want to punish you.
Break you, and rebuild you into something half useful.
I hope youve gone Infantry.... Its the only place to be!

[wbks]

I hope youve gone Infantry.... Its the only place to be!If I hadn't decided that way I would have now? haha:eek:
Yep. p.s, any input on my above post?

[Gibbo89]

what is it like joining the army? i'm kinda interested in it eh... :eek:

[Delerium]

what is it like joining the army? i'm kinda interested in it eh... :eek:

In what regards. the basic is all the same. It then changes depending on what corps you go and officer/or

[Gibbo89]

In what regards. the basic is all the same. It then changes depending on what corps you go and officer/or

like is it just a physical 9 to 5 job? is it like 'treat the new guys like shit' type thing?

[Macontour]

Im an older guy but until 2 or 3 years ago was still running about 10:30 to 10:45 but have slowed down becauseof a back problem. Some of the time is a mental thing.

I always had the attitude that if it takes 12 minutes it hurts for 12 minutes, if it takes 10 minutes it only hurts for 10 minutes and I always found that it hurt so the less time I spent hurting the better!!

You can usually do a better time if there is a bit of competition around and unless you are absolutely stuffed at the finish, you just haven't pushed hard enough.

I was involved in recruit training so had

[Delerium]

like is it just a physical 9 to 5 job? is it like 'treat the new guys like shit' type thing?

The recruit course is one where you need to prove yourself, so dont expect to be having fun all the time. Formal training after this is a case of finally having time to yourself but you are still being watched carefully.

Once posted your still the new guy and being watched but it becomes a bit more relaxed. Different units and corps all have their differences as well.

And all the services really are not very alligned with eachother eather. very different cultures between them.

[wbks]

Well sounds like I've got runners knee, which I'm going to go to the doc for asap and hopefully I havent done too much damage atm, should go away fairly soon and if I can keep up with Hoon, I should be ready to send in my application in about two months or less:third:

[Hoon]

I guess I'll start doing as close to 8k every second day for two weeks then try the intervals for two weeks then?

No, work up to 8kms!! If you try jumping in right now you'll probably break yourself. Just start where you are, push yourself a little harder each time, run a little further, or a little quicker, do a little more than your last session.

Build up to it, you have heaps of time.

[wbks]

Umm, this might sound ironic considering my last post but that 8k didn't exactly break me. I mean sure, my knees are aparantly stuffed but I actually fealt surprisingly good throughout the whole thing and my pace wasn't that far off what it is when I'm doing a shorter run (2.4) so I was happy with that. Oh well, doesn't really matter now looks like I'll have to take a while off running anyway. Btw is that you with the lsw and what looks like about 100K worth of optics? TF's must get some awesome gear :D

[specter]

well im back, just finished my aarc last week!
just reading through the post's and my only advice is the harder you push yourself now the less of a target you are going to be for the NCO's. but in saying that one guy in my platoon joined up weighing 136kg did 15min rfl's 7 push ups and 40 odd situps, and after basic he attained a minimum g2 and lost 35kg's..... those pti's really know how to make you fit, but it aint enjoyable.
i saw my fitness increase dramaticly as i am now running 8.45's and doing 45pu 130su and was the fastest to finish the B.E.T

basic isnt exactly a walk in the park as the NCO's try to remove all the old civvie habats out of you and rebuild you into something useful, but luckly for me i was part of a very tight knit and strong section. so we hardly got in the shit and the NCO's were more human towards us..

there were some very unenjoyable moments during basic but you quickly forget them and once you complete basic you relise how much fun you actuallly had!
i really reccomend it, as its the best carrer decision ive made so far!

[munster]

Just got news today that my old CO from 6 Hauraki has passed away.

Haven't seen him in many years, but for some reason this has really shook me up.

Most of those who knew then Col Deane will have fond memories. I was his personal driver for many AFE's in the early 90's.

[shrub]

Only did a few years back in the late 70s - early 80s, but a bloody good time

[huff3r]

To anyone wondering, I am still alive, survived my "Airman and Airwoman Induction course" (bloody PC brigade lol), and surprisingly enough my lack of general fitness didnt hold me back. Now for juniour course, and once thats up the real fun begins :D

[specter]

To anyone wondering, I am still alive, survived my "Airman and Airwoman Induction course" (bloody PC brigade lol), and surprisingly enough my lack of general fitness didnt hold me back. Now for juniour course, and once thats up the real fun begins :D

good to hear. should be pushing yourself to keep a good standard of fitness though:niceone:

[huff3r]

good to hear. should be pushing yourself to keep a good standard of fitness though:niceone:

I most certainly will be. Not that I have a choice, the PT now is more intense than on Recruit...

[tommo8ball]

LAC Donachie 5 years RNZAF, was on R3/05 AEROMWKR 717'd 2010.

[specter]

nice to hear.. what made ya 717?

[tommo8ball]

nice to hear.. what made ya 717?

lost faith in the system/camand chain and more so ffor amily reasons, a week after i left i unexpectdly lost my farther so wouldnt change getting to spend that time with him for anything :) funny thing is he told me he would never allow me to get a road bike due to all the idiodic assholes out there, but now i have a k1 gsxr 1000,living out all the experiences he had when he was younger. still being in the DF is an experiance that you have to have to understand , and i think it makes you a better person for it.

[specter]

lost faith in the system/camand chain and more so ffor amily reasons, a week after i left i unexpectdly lost my farther so wouldnt change getting to spend that time with him for anything :) funny thing is he told me he would never allow me to get a road bike due to all the idiodic assholes out there, but now i have a k1 gsxr 1000,living out all the experiences he had when he was younger. still being in the DF is an experiance that you have to have to understand , and i think it makes you a better person for it.

yeah that cmd chain surely is a prick at times... society would defiantly be better with mandatory service

[tommo8ball]

yeah that cmd chain surely is a prick at times... society would defiantly be better with mandatory service

surly has done good for other countrys, hearing all the white paper rumors floating around aboout DF would be a good way to keep per's and gain founds for the DF. but we all know with the death of H.M.N.Z.S Canterbury and 75SQN :violin: that the NZ goverment arnt interested in military or what benifits it can bring. just taxes lol.

[specter]

surly has done good for other countrys, hearing all the white paper rumors floating around aboout DF would be a good way to keep per's and gain founds for the DF. but we all know with the death of H.M.N.Z.S Canterbury and 75SQN :violin: that the NZ goverment arnt interested in military or what benifits it can bring. just taxes lol.

yeah.... our government is all about how to make money, sadly they are shit at it.

[huff3r]

yeah.... our government is all about how to make money, sadly they are shit at it.

They are making money by cutting DF funding something chronic these days. Latest one is no more free drugs. They already ask us to pay for some of our training ourselves, wont be long til you have to be qualified just to sign up.

[tommo8ball]

They are making money by cutting DF funding something chronic these days. Latest one is no more free drugs. They already ask us to pay for some of our training ourselves, wont be long til you have to be qualified just to sign up.

thats just crazy,things were getting stupid soft with basic training before i left also, as in beds down from day 1,weekend leave and no pack marching. they also tryed a no one fails on basic but after it came back to bite them big time with airworthness issues it stoped lol. but taking away the fundemental perks of being DF like free medical dental etc is just going to far.Why dont they just make all DF pers CIVI it's what they are slowly working towards anyways.

[huff3r]

thats just crazy,things were getting stupid soft with basic training before i left also, as in beds down from day 1,weekend leave and no pack marching. they also tryed a no one fails on basic but after it came back to bite them big time with airworthness issues it stoped lol. but taking away the fundemental perks of being DF like free medical dental etc is just going to far.Why dont they just make all DF pers CIVI it's what they are slowly working towards anyways.

Well, especially for the RNZAF, as realistically the need for us to be soldiers is pretty slim. But without the perks there's no reason to stay... tempted to 717, and go fly for a bit instead...

[huff3r]

Well im out. 717'd today. Dads not happy. Terminal date isnt set yet, cos they will probably release me early apparently. Since im still in training.

[tommo8ball]

omg omg omg :thud: ,more people getting out ,they don't like it when you decide to get out in woody lol, its mean't to be them deciding weather you stay or go, most times they try and keep the people that hate it there typical RNZAF. ass about face. where about you call home? hope everything goes smoothly for your release and all the best for the excitement of civi life :)

[Delerium]

I left the RNZAF in 2k8. Best decision I made. Just did it after 7 years is all.

[Delerium]

omg omg omg :thud: ,more people getting out ,they don't like it when you decide to get out in woody lol, its mean't to be them deciding weather you stay or go, most times they try and keep the people that hate it there typical RNZAF. ass about face. where about you call home? hope everything goes smoothly for your release and all the best for the excitement of civi life :)

Expect more civvies in all services. Admin, PTI, Supply etc.

[tommo8ball]

Expect more civvies in all services. Admin, PTI, Supply etc.

yeah they were making the change before i left,i hear now that PTI's and Air Security have intergrated, PTI's took all the CPL slots so all the promotion cleared lAC Air Security go screwed over, all the admin dissapaired ,will get really messy having people running things when they dont really understand the military,but hay i guess it wont be long before all there will be is a dozen or so offikers telling the civis what to do :facepalm:,

[kasper]

Does it count if your an army brat and grew up on bases?
If so count me too

[huff3r]

omg omg omg :thud: ,more people getting out ,they don't like it when you decide to get out in woody lol, its mean't to be them deciding weather you stay or go, most times they try and keep the people that hate it there typical RNZAF. ass about face. where about you call home? hope everything goes smoothly for your release and all the best for the excitement of civi life :)

Porirua is home for me, and my terminal date is this friday so I'm back there next weekend, can't wait to be honest.

Main reason for leaving had nothing to do with the service btw, was mostly just simply the wrong job for me, so I'm off to pursue further education in the hopes of finding the right job.

[Delerium]

yeah they were making the change before i left,i hear now that PTI's and Air Security have intergrated, PTI's took all the CPL slots so all the promotion cleared lAC Air Security go screwed over, all the admin dissapaired ,will get really messy having people running things when they dont really understand the military,but hay i guess it wont be long before all there will be is a dozen or so offikers telling the civis what to do :facepalm:,


yes sounds about right. Defence needs to save 300mil a year at this stage.

[allycatz]

Apologies to mods for reviving an old thread but cleaning out me garage and I have half doz cans of unused DB beer here commemorating 6th Battalion 1898-1998 anniversary....were given to me by an ex WOII now overseas to put on TM but can't sell on there. So if anyone wants them just PM me....ps. they are free to deserving new home

[munster]

Apologies to mods for reviving an old thread but cleaning out me garage and I have half doz cans of unused DB beer here commemorating 6th Battalion 1898-1998 anniversary....were given to me by an ex WOII now overseas to put on TM but can't sell on there. So if anyone wants them just PM me....ps. they are free to deserving new home

As an ex-Hauraki, they would be worth keeping. My old CO Ted Deane passed away a few months ago.

[JustNick]

New to KB and it's great to see so many serving or ex df members on here. I 717'd from Whenuapai this year ex-geek and will possibly know or recognise a few of the more recent "retirees" on here. I don't have a bike or license at the moment but it's on my "to-do" list.

[munster]

Apologies to mods for reviving an old thread but cleaning out me garage and I have half doz cans of unused DB beer here commemorating 6th Battalion 1898-1998 anniversary....were given to me by an ex WOII now overseas to put on TM but can't sell on there. So if anyone wants them just PM me....ps. they are free to deserving new home
2 cans in the post today. Many many thanks allycatz. I owe you. Cheers.

[kinger]

....have more respect by the troops with techo experience.

As a ex-pommie army air tech, we found the aircrew who used to be techs a real pain in the arse.

[quickbuck]

As a ex-pommie army air tech, we found the aircrew who used to be techs a real pain in the arse. LOL, I can see why sometimes..... A little knowledge, and all that....
We are a tight knitted bunch over here though.

[Macontour]

The latest round of civillianising jobs and "Imping" people has had quite a bad effect on morale.

Young guys see the SSgts or WOs who they consider to be the gurus in their trade and the epitome of being a soldier getting the boot, and decide that there is not a future for them. Apparently attrition is about 17% in the Army and 20% in the Navy at the moment. Hardly sustainable!

They also see their mates going to the mines in Aussie and hear of the big dollars and head that way rapidly. Either that or doing "the Circuit" or the Anti Somalian pirate jobs.

TF units are being combined ie 3 and 6 BN, 5 and 7 and 2 Cants and 4O South. The exact layout is still being sorted but safe to assume that a combined Battalion will only need one CO, One RSM, one TWO and so on. I am guessing that what used to be a Battalion will be more like a Company so Cadre jobs may disappear as well.

Ah well, I've done 26 years TF, if I only get a couple more I shan't grizzle too much.

[sAsLEX]

Apparently attrition is about 17% in the Army and 20% in the Navy at the moment. Hardly sustainable!



Your numbers are low.

[Delerium]

Your numbers are low.


Attrition is about 23% across the board.

[JustNick]

Attrition is about 23% across the board.

Wowsers thats huge! I wonder what the PR spin will be on those figures.

[YLWDUC]

The VCDF presented pretty much a 'We're hurtin' speech to parliament a couple of weeks ago. That said, the Defence Minister Mr Coleman seems to be unaware of the seriousness of the problem.

I know that all govt departments have been directed to save money, but it costs at least $80,000 to recruit and train someone to a basic level (eg a mechanic). In my trade I would estimate it costs us at least $250,000 before a person is fully productive. If the attrition rate stays high (anything above 12%) then we'll be spending too much money trying to raise and train new personnel.

Might be time to put a bit more time and energy into the Sustain side of the house

my two cents

[mossy1200]

I was a cut lunch soldier (assult pioneers)till the guberment made me redundant and told me to re apply with the labour department.They gave my position to someone unemployed to lower the unemployment figures prior to a election.The minute labour department found out I had a job they didnt want to know me.

[FuriousD]

Pvt with the 5th BN B coy, infantry, in the Irish PDF.

[huff3r]

Another thread dredge but I've applied to go back for seconds. Gonna try systems engineer in the Army if they'll take me. I loved the lifestyle and this trade seems far more suited to my skills so hopefully it will go a lot better.

Gonna have to work damn hard again though but I'm really looking forward to it.

[Ttonka]

I have to admit to doing 20years service in the RNZN. Was an absolute blast, even had one of my Bikes transported from Bluff to
Auck while serving on HMNZS Monowai. :msn-wink: