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Eurodave
10th December 2005, 13:31
Who here are either currently serving or ex armed services?
Me, Im an ex RNZAF SGT,served in the mob for 13 years, been in civvy street about 14 years now

boomer
10th December 2005, 14:01
A stint or 2 serving HRH

Al
10th December 2005, 14:39
I did my 2 years national service in SA, rank of Lieutenant, in the SA Infantry Corps.
After national service had 13 years of citizen force duty, 2 months per year. During this time I earned the rank of Captain, only to be demoted back to Lt a while later for insubordination to a certain camp Commondant....:bash:

Now I don't give a flying toss!

Al

Dafe
10th December 2005, 15:17
I 717'd the Airforce over 4 years ago.
I was Avionics at Ohakea. Served for 5 years. 75 Squadron & the Avgeek factory. LAC Dave McKnight.

Potzman
10th December 2005, 15:48
Hey Eurodave,
I'm currently in the RNZAF up in auckland as an avionics tech. have been in for about 4 and a half years now ( LAC Potter)

Did a bit of a stint at Ohakea when i was a mech, must have missed you Dave. was a good move to get out tho, are you enjoying it?
The avionics trade has seen a downsizing of sorts and the good geeky work is hard to come by as well.

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 15:55
Yeah, I got out B4 they canned all the Skyhawks & closed Wigram down, what a huge shame they did that!!!Bloody Gummint

Smorg
10th December 2005, 15:58
Former RNZN served for 4 years got out just before the mighty F421 decomissioned:doh:

pritch
10th December 2005, 16:11
Who here are either currently serving or ex armed services?


A long time ago I spent some two and a half years doing nature walks in several variations on the theme of a tropical paradise.

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 16:15
Blimey, theres more of us than I at first thought!!
Anyone else with a military past?

Smorg
10th December 2005, 16:21
Heaps of bus drivers and park rangers

Jeff da maori
10th December 2005, 16:29
6 years in the RNZN as a leading marine fitter HMNZS Southland and the mighty waikato

awesker
10th December 2005, 16:45
My RNZAF intake is coming up in Jan, Im going in as a CIS operator, Im looking forward to it, anyone know what these boys get up to?

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 16:54
My RNZAF intake is coming up in Jan, Im going in as a CIS operator, Im looking forward to it, anyone know what these boys get up to?


After the 1st 2 months at [RACS 1978] GSTS these days ,the worlds your oyster, its a great life for a SINGLE guy or gal :2thumbsup

miSTa
10th December 2005, 16:56
I was in the Air Training Corp (7 sqd) for four years from when I was 13, does that count? :banana:

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 16:58
I was in the Air Training Corp (7 sqd) for four years from when I was 13, does that count? :banana:


He He, good on ya, near enough!

Bonez
10th December 2005, 18:14
23 years in the RNZAF. Typical grumpy ol Sgt Armourer was me. :msn-wink: Been out 4.5 years.

jimbo600
10th December 2005, 18:14
Did 9 years in the RAF and 5 in the RNZAF left as a SGT photographer. Would have stayed but things were never the same after the disbandment of 75 and 14 Sqn.

miSTa
10th December 2005, 18:25
He He, good on ya, near enough!

Your too kind... :2thumbsup :2thumbsup

At 13 I wanted to be a pilot, hit high school and hated it, went milking cows instead :doh:

James Deuce
10th December 2005, 18:34
Worked for the NZ Army for a year as the Data Communications Engineer.

Sergeants used to call me sir until they found out I had to work for a living. Then they made me buy them beer.

Dagnabbit, I knew I got that wrong.

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 18:51
23 years in the RNZAF. Typical grumpy ol Sgt Armourer was me. :msn-wink: Been out 4.5 years.


Hey Bonez,
Still got that black & white pic I took of you on your GSX?[now theres a blast from the past!]

Holy Roller
10th December 2005, 19:00
Six years in Pussers Leading Radio Fitter served on HMNZS Otago left back in 87.

Buddha#81
10th December 2005, 19:08
Ten years in the Army. Bailed out in '97. Served as an Auto Parts Supplier attached to workshops througout NZ including 6 mths in Bosnia in '95.

SPman
10th December 2005, 19:49
Do the Rockies, count?? 4 yrs at Ngapona - mainly for the scallops and crays - er - tactical diving exercises and got up to Killick, then moved to Chch. What a bunch of tossers - so I left!

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 19:57
Do the Rockies, count?? 4 yrs at Ngapona - mainly for the scallops and crays - er - tactical diving exercises and got up to Killick, then moved to Chch. What a bunch of tossers - so I left!


You were a Navy diver then?

Quasievil
10th December 2005, 20:22
Ex Army 21 supply corp based in Linton back in the eightees, all good ,attached to Whiskey company and trained specifically for resupply in "hot" areas , kinda cool did heaps of stints in the bush, work by night sleep by day kinda stuff, best part was getting pack raped by all the girl nurse recruits in 87 , hang on thats not true that was the fantasy nah best part was racing around on a honda XL250 in camo in Waiouru, kinda wished I stayed in a way:spudgrr:

Eurodave
10th December 2005, 20:26
Ex Army 21 supply corp based in Linton back in the eightees, all good ,attached to Whiskey company and trained specifically for resupply in "hot" areas , kinda cool did heaps of stints in the bush, work by night sleep by day kinda stuff, best part was getting pack raped by all the girl nurse recruits in 87 , hang on thats not true that was the fantasy nah best part was racing around on a honda XL250 in camo in Waiouru, kinda wished I stayed in a way:spudgrr:


Yep, werent those green Hondas XL250R monoshockers?

SPman
10th December 2005, 20:29
You were a Navy diver then?
Nope. Was a diver with no boat, so joined the RNZNVR......just so happened on weekend exercises, with the right (diving) skipper, it was more like a dive cruise weekend...."checking" various areas like scallop beds and cray spots, to "ensure the viability of the resources"

Quasievil
10th December 2005, 20:31
Yep, werent those green Hondas XL250R monoshockers?


FAAAAARK drunk those cells to death, cant remember to be honest:spudwhat:

Jabez
10th December 2005, 20:37
Six years in Pussers Leading Radio Fitter served on HMNZS Otago left back in 87.
Snap......7yrs as LRF on Waikato, Irirangi & Monowai. Left 89...:msn-wink:

R6_kid
10th December 2005, 20:42
My old man is air force - 30 years now. W/O Graham Deacon.

Im set to join up at some stage. Just deciding whether im gonna join up soon as an aircraft tech, or if i'll stay at uni and join as a pilot.

speedpro
10th December 2005, 21:19
nearly 12 yrs in the Air Force, out in '86. Radar/Avionics, 40sqn then bay all in Auckland

Qman
10th December 2005, 21:31
6 years TF coy 5WWCT B company Radio op

Divot
10th December 2005, 21:34
2 years territorials went to Singapore and Malasia the fell off my bike and had a medical discharge.

Colapop
10th December 2005, 21:39
Just a bubby only did 3 1/2 years NZ Army. 1 yr as a heavy plant op. Thena couple as a Draughtsman at Defence HQ based a piss-up camp, Fort Dorset.
Funniest shit I joined up to get a career (why I left Wairoa) and went home after basic, I ended up being there for 8 months coz I was there when cyclone Bola hit in March '88. Got paid to live away while living at home.

2much
10th December 2005, 21:44
8 years in the pus, I'm an LET.... 717 in now and leave in February.... got a job for me???

Colapop
10th December 2005, 21:48
8 years in the pus, I'm an LET.... 717 in now and leave in February.... got a job for me???
A sparky? You'll have tons of work. Where are ya getting out to?

2much
10th December 2005, 21:52
Want to stay in the Tauranga area if I can.... Just hate Auckland, hence why I'm getting out.

Colapop
10th December 2005, 21:57
And you're actual trade? It's been a long while abreviated job titles aren't my strong pint anymore. Oops I mean point - can't forget drinking a lot in the forces! My work Beca (consultant engineers) have an office in Tauranga and someone might know someone etc. up there.

2much
10th December 2005, 22:02
LET: Leading Electronic Technician..... Yep drinking right now! as you do....

Yeah I'ld be interested if they've got anything available.

Colapop
10th December 2005, 22:10
I'll make a couple of enquiry's and let ya know if I find out anything. I'll Pm ya.
Have one or 3 for me ahd the wisdom teef out yesterday so drugs a beers are prolly not a good idea.

2much
10th December 2005, 22:16
Oh mate... I feel for you... been there.

Drugs and beer always help, I'll have some for you:drinknsin

Cheers mate, I appreciate it.

mstriumph
11th December 2005, 02:43
moi ..... ex RAF ........... erm - dental student [until i saw the light :o ]

Colapop
11th December 2005, 06:56
You coulda done my teef!!

Karma
11th December 2005, 07:16
A stint or 2 serving HRH

You northeners :killingme

You can't say serving HRH when you're in prison... it's at her majestys leisure :lol:

Dafe
11th December 2005, 07:31
8 years in the pus, I'm an LET.... 717 in now and leave in February.... got a job for me???

Hey dude, I put in the 717 and went straight from avionics into the security industry. There is some excellent money to be made if you specialise in the Access Control Industry.
You should find out who the biggest access control companies are for Tauranga and get talking to them.
The industry is awesome to work in. Changing scenery every day, company car and cellphone saves heaps, and a huge variety of different products to learn that are forever changing.

Holy Roller
11th December 2005, 16:25
And you're actual trade? It's been a long while abreviated job titles aren't my strong pint anymore. Oops I mean point - can't forget drinking a lot in the forces! My work Beca (consultant engineers) have an office in Tauranga and someone might know someone etc. up there.
See if there is an opening at Norske Skog Beca are the maintanence consultants there. Only an hour from Tauranga less from Te Puke great ride to do each day.
Worth a try.:spudwhat:

Grizz
11th December 2005, 18:12
Do the Rockies, count?? 4 yrs at Ngapona - mainly for the scallops and crays - er - tactical diving exercises and got up to Killick, then moved to Chch. What a bunch of tossers - so I left!

Hey SPman, I did 3 years at Ngapona, and my wife did 4, left in '92. Wish I had stayed in longer, looking back had a blast.

Jeff da maori
11th December 2005, 18:12
dose anyone remember the joy of being on the tamaki parade ground with jack donnely?

Jabez
11th December 2005, 18:29
Are the joy of the Tamaki parade ground (not).....Maybe if you were a gunner....:)

rfc85
11th December 2005, 18:39
joined in 75 was one of the "abused " rf cadets did 10 and left as sgt attached to the armoured corps-had a fucken ball never forget those drunken days and nights

Pickle
11th December 2005, 18:54
Ex RNZAF stayed for 5 years,joined in 79 out in 84 1 year in Auckland - flatted with Speedpro, 2 years in CHCH - highest speed crash on Lady Wigram Circuit, 2 years in Ohakea kind of remember most of it - spent too much time in bar with Bonez

Rashika
11th December 2005, 18:55
about 18 months in the territorials, as a medic ... 3 Med Bn based at Addington, woo... a long time ago, no barracks there now. Used to have the piss taken out of us when on parade by the immates next door (addington prison) looking out their windows at us.
Went to Golden fleece (no1) ...now that was a buzz! choppers overhead, being a medic we are based mostly at the hospital, with some detail out occassionally, just imagine M*A*S*H and you have an idea.
left to do my big OE, but it is a time of my life that I will remember for a long time, fkn awesome! :rockon:

dangerous
11th December 2005, 18:59
I was in the Air Training Corp (7 sqd) for four years from when I was 13, does that count? :banana:
Same..... ATC #17sqn at Wigram

slopster
11th December 2005, 19:09
Yeh im a FE at Linton

pritch
11th December 2005, 19:15
3 Med Bn based at Addington,

Did you ever meet a Ken Treanor?

Colapop
11th December 2005, 19:30
See if there is an opening at Norske Skog Beca are the maintanence consultants there. Only an hour from Tauranga less from Te Puke great ride to do each day.
Worth a try.:spudwhat:
Yeah, thought I'd ask around a bit. I don't trust the mills that much - they tend to fluctuate too much for my liking. I suppose though that everyone does these days. Someone will know someone no doubt.

$1 nights were great weren't they? I still don't remember meeting my missus three weeks before I met her sober!! 15 years of marriage and two kids later... :doh:

Bonez
11th December 2005, 19:33
spent too much time in bar with BonezAint that the truth :slap:

Holy Roller
11th December 2005, 20:00
Same..... ATC #17sqn at Wigram
Ditto
ATC #20 sqn at Whangarei Loved the Dip Flat course

Rashika
11th December 2005, 20:40
Did you ever meet a Ken Treanor?
hmmm not sure ...was many years ago, 88-89

nudemetalz
11th December 2005, 20:51
Well I did 2 years in 2/1 Battalion NMWCC 2Cant TF.

Enjoyed being in the "SAS" (Saturdays And Sundays).


NDMz

Rashika
11th December 2005, 20:55
Well I did 2 years in 2/1 Battalion NMWCC 2Cant TF.

Enjoyed being in the "SAS" (Saturdays And Sundays).


NDMz
"SAS" ... :banana: luv it!!

nudemetalz
11th December 2005, 21:04
Better than "Cut-Lunch Warriors", the other term we were called by...... :slap: :angry2:

SARGE
11th December 2005, 22:57
USMC 0311 (grunt) for a year.. then onto 0321 ( Marine Band - Tuba Player) for the next 5

Phillipines, Okinawa, Middle East

Colapop
12th December 2005, 07:04
about 18 months in the territorials, as a medic ... 3 Med Bn based at Addington, woo... a long time ago, no barracks there now. Used to have the piss taken out of us when on parade by the immates next door (addington prison) looking out their windows at us.
Went to Golden fleece (no1) ...now that was a buzz! choppers overhead, being a medic we are based mostly at the hospital, with some detail out occassionally, just imagine M*A*S*H and you have an idea.
left to do my big OE, but it is a time of my life that I will remember for a long time, fkn awesome! :rockon:
Golden Fleece No.1!! What a laugh that was!! Tekapo, Colgate, and Wingate raids. Came back from that as a father (so I found out later - oops!!)

Rashika
12th December 2005, 07:12
Golden Fleece No.1!! What a laugh that was!! Tekapo, Colgate, and Wingate raids. Came back from that as a father (so I found out later - oops!!)
hmm a father eh? ...betcha that was a surprise :banana:

Krayy
12th December 2005, 07:21
Anybody know a bloke by the name of Rodney Buckingham who was in the RNZAF (avionics, I think) and where he is now?

He rode an XL250 that spent more time at the shop than under his arse, but when it was working, we were ripping around all the construction sites in Albany before they became shopping centres.

Jeff da maori
12th December 2005, 07:24
Are the joy of the Tamaki parade ground (not).....Maybe if you were a gunner....:)





gunner, my ass! I was in the branch the gunners loved to hate. something about being promoted to leading hand after 4 years when they wouldn't get there for 10 years or more.

Sniper
12th December 2005, 07:36
Former Army.

Sniper
12th December 2005, 07:37
"SAS" ... :banana: luv it!!

I can give you a whole lotta others, but hey I was a TF for a while too. I still do training with them

Dazza
12th December 2005, 07:40
Those god darn XL250's where what ended my miltary career, I to was in Linton in the mid to late 80's, 10 Transport Squadron 101'st Troop,Quasievil,we must've been there @ the same time.:scratch:

Eurodave
12th December 2005, 07:43
Those god darn XL250's where what ended my miltary career, I to was in Linton in the mid to late 80's, 10 Transport Squadron 101'st Troop,Quasievil,we must've been there @ the same time.:scratch:


Go on.......

Dazza
12th December 2005, 07:46
I used to have a Ducati 900S2:wait:

Colapop
12th December 2005, 08:34
hmm a father eh? ...betcha that was a surprise :banana:
I'd met her before I went away on exercise, knew her for about 3 months-ish. We met up at my sister's march out at Woodbourne. I sat down for awile after she told me - I needed to!!
Still, I wouldn't give them back for nothing.

Goblin
12th December 2005, 09:33
Not me, but since moving into my Grandmother's house, I have found all my Grandfather's old war photos. He was RAAF 3 Sqdn and served from 1939-1945. Also have his flight log books and medals, Pacific Star, Africa Star and others. So fascinating to see the old pics and read his missions. He died in 88. Here are just a few if anyone's interested.

Eurodave
12th December 2005, 09:35
Choice, mate!:2thumbsup

Colapop
12th December 2005, 09:38
Those photos are really clear. Most I've seen are grainy and you can't get a good view of things. They don't have to be "of war" to see what some stuff was like back then.

James Deuce
12th December 2005, 09:50
Rep points for whomever identifies the aircraft in Goblin's Grandfather's photos.

Superb stuff Goblin - got any more? They need to go to the National Archives ASAP, they are fantastic quality.

Eurodave
12th December 2005, 09:55
1ST pic, probably a Wirraway, [aussie lisence built Harvard] but could be an Aussie built Boomerang
3rd pic, an Avro Anson
closeup of biplane, a Hawker Hart? or a Vickers Vildebeast?

ghost
12th December 2005, 10:07
13 years, out for 6 now..

Goblin
12th December 2005, 10:11
Rep points for whomever identifies the aircraft in Goblin's Grandfather's photos.

Superb stuff Goblin - got any more? They need to go to the National Archives ASAP, they are fantastic quality.
There's dozens, will take me weeks to scan them all. The plan is to send them to the National Archives.

Gotta go now, will post some more tonight.

James Deuce
12th December 2005, 10:12
1ST pic, probably a Wirraway, [aussie lisence built Harvard] but could be an Aussie built Boomerang
3rd pic, an Avro Anson
closeup of biplane, a Hawker Hart?

That's interesting - I think the pics are in a different order for me.

I don't think that's a Wirraway because it has the forward radio mast, so I think it's a Havard.

There's Definitely an Anson in there.

The biplane is a bit bigger than a Hart.

I'm, still trying to figure out the upside down aircraft for sure.

Eurodave
12th December 2005, 10:13
Vickers Vildebeast?

James Deuce
12th December 2005, 10:16
That's the one.

vfrboy
12th December 2005, 10:21
Ex RNZAF, did 5 1/2 yrs as aircraft tech on orions and hueys. been out for a year and lovng it

Goblin
12th December 2005, 13:44
Here's a few more.

James Deuce
12th December 2005, 13:48
There's dozens, will take me weeks to scan them all. The plan is to send them to the National Archives.

Gotta go now, will post some more tonight.

BLoody brilliant!!!

Thanks Goblin.

Goblin
12th December 2005, 13:53
.....and more.

gunnyrob
12th December 2005, 15:49
Hiya Folks, Been a Cracker Stacker in the RNZAF for 23 years! Am now off in search of adventure & allowances with the Navy so I can afford a new bike....Hope like heck the photos come out, shows me on the deck of USS Kittyhawk & the boys in action at sea.

2much
12th December 2005, 16:09
dose anyone remember the joy of being on the tamaki parade ground with jack donnely?

Wouldn't call it a joy but I do remember 'God's' voice thundering over the parade ground very clearly...... How could you forget?

Lias
12th December 2005, 16:10
Both my grandfathers and my foster father served.

One grandfather was infantry (I dont know what unit he was in, but I believe he was a bren gunner and served in Africa and Italy)
Other grandfather was a Lance Bombadier in 2nd NZ Artillery Division, served in africa, won the Military Medal and is mentioned by name in the offical war history (quoted below, Gunnar Davies is my grandpa). Would never talk about it beyond describing it as "the single most stupid thing I've ever done in my life".
Foster father served in malaya and vietnam (Victor 3, 1bn RNZIR). He spent some time in the SAS (but before they became 1st NZSAS, not entirely sure what they were called then). One of the proudest moments of my life was when my foster brother and I escourted him through the streets of Wellington for the Vietnam Remebered celebrations in back in 1998. We were expecting the streets to be lined with hippies and commies, and there were just 1000's of people lining the streets cheering our vets on, and maybe 20-30 hippy scum right at the end outside parliament. Made me proud as hell to be a kiwi that day.


The last episode of this grim action was enacted by the crew of K3. The layer was wounded and the loader, Gunner Davies, at once replaced him, while Gunner Paulger loaded. They fired briskly and as they did so a shellburst set fire to the bedrolls and ammunition on the truck. They were ordered to abandon the gun; but instead Paulger threw the blazing gear and ammunition clear while Davies went on firing. A tank in front burst into flames. Davies suffered a painful grazing wound and was wounded again moments later when the gun received a direct hit. Paulger found to his surprise that the portée was still working and he drove it back over the ridge, only to have it hit twice in the engine by fire from another tank. He then continued on foot and got away. Davies, with other wounded, took shelter in slit trenches until rescued later by a carrier. Both these gunners were awarded the MM.


I've thought about joining the TF, but the fact is I'm a lazy fat bastard, so I just content myself with attending dawn parade and taking my moments silence etc.

Jeff da maori
12th December 2005, 16:18
Wouldn't call it a joy but I do remember 'God's' voice thundering over the parade ground very clearly...... How could you forget?


hehe, is the old fella still there? can still remember him dressing down a comander for walking across the edge of the parade ground towards the wardroom during a BCT parade

2much
12th December 2005, 16:27
Haha, that sounds about right. He left about 5 years ago.

pritch
12th December 2005, 20:35
Better than "Cut-Lunch Warriors",

Mixed metaphore there:

"Cut lunch commandos"
"Weekend warriors"

I really did like the new version of SAS too :-)

sAsLEX
12th December 2005, 20:39
will read all the thread later but:


Serving in the RNZN at the mo

GLE (WE)

sAsLEX
12th December 2005, 20:52
Just deciding whether im gonna join up soon as an aircraft tech, or if i'll stay at uni and join as a pilot.

Get on to the recruiters and see if you can join halfway through your Uni, they pay for that etc and if you pass your monkey box and selection they may pay for you to finish uni before doing your IOTC and Wings etc


ps not likely to be true but has happened in the recent past

nudemetalz
12th December 2005, 21:02
Mixed metaphore there:

"Cut lunch commandos"
"Weekend warriors"

I really did like the new version of SAS too :-)


Ah thanks, you're right, been a while since I was in there :doh:

I remember doing a weekend exercise in Arthurs Pass in the snow, getting helo inserted. It was like a scene from a 'Nam war movie, getting dropped in by Huey, jumping out and laying supressive fire while it flew away again....ah, I miss that part !!!!

sAsLEX
12th December 2005, 21:03
Ditto
ATC #20 sqn at Whangarei Loved the Dip Flat course

fuckin aye that was brilliant, did it throught the Army cadets and got me a red badge!

TraD_MaN
12th December 2005, 21:11
i want to join the army but im to chicken arrg :wait:

Quasievil
12th December 2005, 21:16
i want to join the army but im to chicken arrg :wait:

Why they are a bunch of pussies these days, fucken time out cards sheeesh is that for real ?

Hitcher
12th December 2005, 21:19
In the days when the New Zealand Army had Regular Force Cadets, SLRs, M113s and M41 Walker Bulldogs, I spent some time learning the craft of Assault Trooper in the care of Queen Alexandra's Waikato/Wellington East Coast Squadron at Waiouru. Educational.

TraD_MaN
12th December 2005, 21:22
well it will be better than what im doing now and everything is there for you and its cheap to live. i want to do an aprentiseship? spelling

Hitcher
12th December 2005, 21:40
i want to do an aprentiseship? spelling
A spelling apprenticeship? What a novel idea. If I could get Government funding, I'd be up for that. If it's good enough for Rongo Wetere...

TraD_MaN
12th December 2005, 21:58
who's that? im kinda lost on the subject now :doh:

pritch
13th December 2005, 06:17
A spelling apprenticeship? What a novel idea. If I could get Government funding, I'd be up for that. If it's good enough for Rongo Wetere...

Love it!

As for Rongo, despite what you read in the press and see on TV the organisation is doing some good work. My main concern is that the Govt auditors have been all over them like a rash for years and have been missing major dramas.

Who audits the auditors?

swanman
13th December 2005, 07:36
4 yrs in British Army, Artillery. Rank of Lieutenant. 3 yrs in Germany, tour in Belfast. Highlights would have been when things went pop in Belfast, mess life and cheap alcohol. Low points would be the incredible arrogance and stuffiness of certain characters (nothing changed in over 100 yrs). All in all I would say it was the most powerful experience of my life so far.

Quality of training was pretty high from Sandhurst to Northern Ireland training, when you come in to civilian life you definitely take a step down or 3 in standards, the shame is most people don't recognise the quality of your background when it comes to civilian jobs etc. I always cringe when I hear employers talk of leadership and management etc, they learned it on a weekend corporate training course and have no idea at all. Bitter? Not me.

As I was leaving 10yrs ago I could see the writing on the wall for standards in the Army. Female soldiers serving alongside male, health and safety, double standards of female/male performance, political correctness, centralisation of regimental training, homosexuals and increase incidence of drug abuse. Soft, soft, soft.
Only thing that seemed to improve was the quality of the equipment.

James Deuce
13th December 2005, 07:42
(snip....bloody interesting though) I always cringe when I hear employers talk of leadership and management etc, they learned it on a weekend corporate training course and have no idea at all. Bitter? Not me.

Dead friggin' right. That one year working for the Army and working for blokes who'd trained at Sandhurst and Duntroon taught me that I didn't want to be a manager, and that a decent manager is a long way from anyone I'd ever worked for, before or since. They inspire you to do your best without being patronising or insisting that you do things their way.

Got any jobs Swanman? :)

Rashika
13th December 2005, 07:50
I've been kinda impressed by this thread.
It's surprising how many people have been in the services and the broad spectrum of types of service and countries etc. Very impressive guys and gals! :2thumbsup
we are not just a bunch of no good, long haired, rough, speedster bikers eh?

Eurodave
13th December 2005, 08:04
I've been kinda impressed by this thread.
It's surprising how many people have been in the services and the broad spectrum of types of service and countries etc. Very impressive guys and gals! :2thumbsup
we are not just a bunch of no good, long haired, rough, speedster bikers eh?

Yep, me too!, when I started this thread I thought 'there wont be very many of us' but,8 pages later, boy was I wrong! Many thanx to you all :2thumbsup

Colapop
13th December 2005, 08:19
Yep, me too!, when I started this thread I thought 'there wont be very many of us' but,8 pages later, boy was I wrong! Many thanx to you all :2thumbsup
It's a case of like-minded people. I think generally most people here have a sense of community and the brotherhood/sisterhood of biking is the thing that brings us together. It surprised me at first that there were so many forces people here then I thought "why not?" The biker community has always stuck together and here is no different.
Cheers!:drinknsin (another forces tradition):drinknsin

Rashika
13th December 2005, 08:43
mind you after having said my last comment I was kinda surprised to read this one


As I was leaving 10yrs ago I could see the writing on the wall for standards in the Army. Female soldiers serving alongside male, health and safety, double standards of female/male performance, political correctness, centralisation of regimental training, homosexuals and increase incidence of drug abuse. Soft, soft, soft.

just curious... why is this the soft thing you imply?


(mind you this IS the pom army)

SARGE
13th December 2005, 08:49
while we are on the subject...


anyone done overseas deployment? .. what was your fav post?


mine had to be the Phillipines..had a great time there..Scuba, dirty great rock nightclubs, mountains, beaches,a few hours by MAC airtaxi to anywhere

Sniper
13th December 2005, 08:53
while we are on the subject...


anyone done overseas deployment? .. what was your fav post?


mine had to be the Phillipines..had a great time there..Scuba, dirty great rock nightclubs, mountains, beaches,a few hours by MAC airtaxi to anywhere

Timor, loved it there. Nothing like hearing shooting at 5 in the morning to set your mood for the day. Had a couple of others, but Im not allowed to say :devil2:

SARGE
13th December 2005, 09:08
Timor, loved it there. Nothing like hearing shooting at 5 in the morning to set your mood for the day. Had a couple of others, but Im not allowed to say :devil2:


hell man ... gunfire at 5 am was Cleveland Ohio... was so used to it by the time i got to Lebanon that it didnt phase me at all

Colapop
13th December 2005, 09:10
You guys are so lucky!!! (sarcasm) I went to Singapore for a bit to help out with the 1st battalion pullout but only for about a month. I spent more time pissed than anything and don't remember doing much work or remember much at all!

Eurodave
13th December 2005, 09:18
I came this close [holds finger & thumb up] to getting to Antartica, Got issued with all the Deep Freeze kit & was all psyched up ready to go, & then , at the last minute,was replaced by some Army officer!!! :doh: WTF??? still dont know the full story to this day!!

Sniper
13th December 2005, 09:23
hell man ... gunfire at 5 am was Cleveland Ohio... was so used to it by the time i got to Lebanon that it didnt phase me at all

Yea, but this is NZ Army. Things didn't get exciting until I "graduated" :msn-wink:

Sniper
13th December 2005, 09:23
I came this close [holds finger & thumb up] to getting to Antartica, Got issued with all the Deep Freeze kit

You are lucky, that deep freeze kit is farking useless.

Storm
13th December 2005, 13:50
Currently serving as an Electrician in the Her Majesty's Royal New Zealand Engineers.

TraD man- pm or email me if I can be of any help re apprenticeships

Holy Roller
13th December 2005, 14:01
I came this close [holds finger & thumb up] to getting to Antartica, Got issued with all the Deep Freeze kit & was all psyched up ready to go, & then , at the last minute,was replaced by some Army officer!!! :doh: WTF??? still dont know the full story to this day!!

I was on the list until I put in my 717. Put a stop to the trip, funny that. Still want to get there sometime though. been looking at the trips from Argentina.

pritch
13th December 2005, 15:27
[QUOTE=Sniper]Nothing like hearing shooting at 5 in the morning to set your mood for the day. QUOTE]

And that's just the unauthorised discharges as the guys get outa bed?

Sniper
13th December 2005, 15:39
And that's just the unauthorised discharges as the guys get outa bed?

Its funny how many UD's there were, none my my section

pritch
13th December 2005, 15:53
The crowning jewel in my four years would have been taking part in the parade in Paris to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Armistice Day.

In my time in the Battalion we did very, very, few parades, we always seemed to be on nature walks... Generally if they wanted a parade they used the Scots Guards who were useful for that sort of thing.

For six months we were in the area populated by the biggest number of species of hornbill anywhere. Heard lots, never saw one.

The only other parade of note was the farewell parade for the 99th Ghurka Brigade in Kuching, Sarawak at the end of "Confrontation". We were issued shirts with the Ghurka patch for the event, there was a company each of Ghurkas, 1 RNZIR, and 42 Commando. A real challenge to organise as all three units march at different pace. Too big a challenge as it turned out :-)
But a truly memorable aftermatch function. Well the early bit was memorable, the rest seems to be missing..

swanman
13th December 2005, 16:19
mind you after having said my last comment I was kinda surprised to read this one

just curious... why is this the soft thing you imply?


(mind you this IS the pom army)

A good army is founded on good discipline, controled agression, and high standards in self belief and trainging physically and mentally. All those things I mentioned eat away at that. I see that you are a woman,no disrespect but female front line soldiers may seem fair and right and all those good things but in reality they break up that solid non-sexual maleness that when you see working well is actualy very impressive.

It's funny that men often get slagged for being agressive, and driven by testoserone etc, well in the Army this is actually a good thing so long as it is controled.

I guess if you haven't experienced it everything I jus said sounds like a lot of poney, but I guess that's life. You got to see it to understand.

swanman
13th December 2005, 16:22
Dead friggin' right. That one year working for the Army and working for blokes who'd trained at Sandhurst and Duntroon taught me that I didn't want to be a manager, and that a decent manager is a long way from anyone I'd ever worked for, before or since. They inspire you to do your best without being patronising or insisting that you do things their way.

Got any jobs Swanman? :)

I wish, need a good one myself. I would love to start up a bike shop in Albany.

Brett
13th December 2005, 16:56
I was all ready to enroll for the airforce to train as a pilot...untill they sold off all of the planes...and didn't buy the F16's...now i work in construction as a Project Manager...hmmm that went to plan...:weird:

terbang
13th December 2005, 18:16
NZ Army as a Vehical mechanic, Australian Coastwatch as a maritime patrol pilot.

Rashika
14th December 2005, 09:42
A good army is founded on good discipline, controled agression, and high standards in self belief and trainging physically and mentally.
Something not achieveble by non males?


All those things I mentioned eat away at that. I see that you are a woman,no disrespect but female front line soldiers may seem fair and right and all those good things but in reality they break up that solid non-sexual maleness that when you see working well is actualy very impressive.
It's funny that men often get slagged for being agressive, and driven by testoserone etc, well in the Army this is actually a good thing so long as it is controled.
I'm curious, is there no place in your army for anyone except testosterone filled males with control who arent gay?
No place for good managers and organisers of people/stores unless they are male?
Yes controlled aggression is good for an army, and no I would not want to be a grunt, hense being a medic, but there is a whole lot more to an army than simply killing, and someone has to do all the other shit. Unless you think a killer is good at everything else as well?
I guess I shouldn't be in a male dominated workplace either too huh? must be bad for the poor sexually charged males around me?
I dont want to start a bullshit session that would never be sorted, but I think it is a shame you cant see what each person brings to the armed services whether male of female....each has benefits.
Cheers mate :spudbooge

Sniper
14th December 2005, 09:44
Something not achieveble by non males?


You kidding????? Theres a certain time of month when the army is at its deadliest.:killingme

Colapop
14th December 2005, 09:53
I don't give a shit who I serve with as long as that person has got my back as I would have theirs. I served with a 'chick' called Venus who could piss standing up, drink most guys under the table and slug it with the best of them in any bar fight (or other) and yet she was still feminine. She even liked wearing dresses!
I think I see what you mean though Swanmann although it's all of the armed forces that are being told to go easy. It's not a gender thing it's a PC thing.
Gone are the days where if someone was not pulling their weight you could take them round the back of the barracks and give 'em a bit of a sorting out, and you can't take a 'stinky' to the shower block for a scrub-down either.
Scumdog said it best when he said you don't get a good dog by treating it like a pussy (or words to that effect)

Sniper
14th December 2005, 09:54
Pity nowadays you can't beat the shit outta them until they toughen up

sAsLEX
14th December 2005, 09:58
I'm curious, is there no place in your army for anyone except testosterone filled males with control who arent gay?
No place for good managers and organisers of people/stores unless they are male?
Yes controlled aggression is good for an army, and no I would not want to be a grunt, hense being a medic, but there is a whole lot more to an army than simply killing, and someone has to do all the other shit. Unless you think a killer is good at everything else as well?


Your raise good points, swannys comments however were focussed mainly at the squad small front line unit rather than the organisation as a whole(how i read it). In which case he has a point. Woman have been shown to reduce combat effficiency of groups as the other members react differently when they are injured etc.

*pt* and as winja will point out of course woman can serve in the forces, someone needs to do the cooking and cleaning! *pt*

James Deuce
14th December 2005, 09:59
I wish, need a good one myself. I would love to start up a bike shop in Albany.

And I 'd like to work on a parts counter.

There's a plan here somewhere.

jahrasti
14th December 2005, 10:00
Timor, loved it there. Nothing like hearing shooting at 5 in the morning to set your mood for the day. Had a couple of others, but Im not allowed to say :devil2:

cool were you in the sas? oh dont worry I get it Sat And Sun

pritch
14th December 2005, 10:24
I'm curious, is there no place in your army for anyone except testosterone filled males with control who arent gay?
No place for good managers and organisers of people/stores unless they are male?


Sorry Rashika, I'm with swanman here. I have never talked to anybody who has been at the sharp end who has been in favour of mixed gender frontline troops. The idea is usually put forward by people with little or no military experience who are pushing a feminist agenda.

The US Army tried it, some of the women couldn't handle the obstacle course, so the obstacles were lowered. The guys were then flying over the course no effort required. Some of the women found the stress levels involved in exercises too much for them, so they were given little cards to wave when feeling stressed. Guys then claimed gender discrimination and they too were given the cards. As soon as the situation approached "realistic" out came the little cards.

Eventually the impracticability of the whole idea of mixed gender infantry became too serious to ignore and all the females were posted elsewhere. The official Pentagon decision was while an all female infantry unit just might work there was no need for such a unit. (I did note that the Pentagon announcement was made by a female Colonel.)

There is no reason why women could not function perfectly well in the rear echelons. Having said that I believe that for both strategic and cultural reasons no females should be posted to places like Afghanistan, or perhaps even Iraq, at all.

None of which is meant to be a put-down of anybody, the fact of life is that the "teeth arms" are a unique situation. I'm sure any future enemy would be intensely grateful to find they were facing a politically correct, OSH observant, gay inclusive, infantry.

But all this is getting away from bikes a bit :-)

Sniper
14th December 2005, 10:36
Women and the military. Its a personal preference thing. I wouldn't fight next to a women basically because she would compromise the integrity of my squad. 30% of men would stop in an advance to help their best friend who had been shot. Compare that to 75% chance of 3 or more males who would stop in an advance to help a women they don't know who got shot. Now suddenly Im 3 men down because some girl got shot and when a section comprises of 8 men, Im fucked.

I would rely on information provided by a women more than a man though. Its a personal thing.

Rashika
14th December 2005, 10:40
Your raise good points, swannys comments however were focussed mainly at the squad small front line unit rather than the organisation as a whole(how i read it). In which case he has a point. Woman have been shown to reduce combat effficiency of groups as the other members react differently when they are injured etc.
funny not quite how i read it but i do agree with that part about front line :yes:
This was what i was more refering too


As I was leaving 10yrs ago I could see the writing on the wall for standards in the Army. Female soldiers serving alongside male, health and safety, double standards of female/male performance, political correctness, centralisation of regimental training, homosexuals and increase incidence of drug abuse. Soft, soft, soft.



*pt* and as winja will point out of course woman can serve in the forces, someone needs to do the cooking and cleaning! *pt*
geez DONT let WINJA see this he'll have a ball!

Rashika
14th December 2005, 10:42
Sorry Rashika, I'm with swanman here. I have never talked to anybody who has been at the sharp end who has been in favour of mixed gender frontline troops. The idea is usually put forward by people with little or no military experience who are pushing a feminist agenda.

as i said from the beginning I dont think mixed is good either, see my previous post... It was more do with the army/armed services as a whole :rockon:

jimbo600
14th December 2005, 10:44
while we are on the subject...


anyone done overseas deployment? .. what was your fav post?


mine had to be the Phillipines..had a great time there..Scuba, dirty great rock nightclubs, mountains, beaches,a few hours by MAC airtaxi to anywhere

Let me see

East Timor 99 1st push with Victor Coy 1RNZIR
Bougainville
Australia
Falkland Is
Germany
Sweden

Wales!

Colapop
14th December 2005, 10:45
Rashika & Co., Seems to me a case of two different tracks two riders heading in opposite directions, who gets hurt?
It's an ambiguous argument, both are on different tracks.

It doesn't mean you disagree - just not talking about the same issue.

sAsLEX
14th December 2005, 10:54
This was what i was more refering too



geez DONT let WINJA see this he'll have a ball!

pritchs comment does add some points to what swanman said about females, and how the overall standard of training in certain situations had/has changed.

Rashika
14th December 2005, 11:02
pritchs comment does add some points to what swanman said about females, and how the overall standard of training in certain situations had/has changed.
yep...and too an extent i agree, standards shouldn't slip to accomodate a minority... if ya cant make it, ya cant, change your occupation...simple!

:) ...but its cool guys, I wont get me knickers in a twist, I'm from the mainland remember? :2thumbsup

Sniper
14th December 2005, 11:03
:) ...but its cool guys, I wont get me knickers in a twist, I'm from the mainland remember? :2thumbsup

So tempted to say something dodgy, but Im too polite.......... :killingme

James Deuce
14th December 2005, 11:07
:) ...but its cool guys, I wont get me knickers in a twist, I'm from the mainland remember? :2thumbsup

Where knickers are made of cheese!

Rashika
14th December 2005, 11:10
So tempted to say something dodgy, but Im too polite.......... :killingme
go on sniper....I was baiting ya!

Where knickers are made of cheese!
....and damn fine cheese it is too! especially with a little wine.

Woops getting VERY OT now....errr um....what were we saying?? :doh:

Sniper
14th December 2005, 11:14
go on sniper....I was baiting ya!


But Im much too polite, besides, MissSniper gets on well with you guys and she could tell stories.

Colapop
14th December 2005, 11:53
But Im much too polite, besides, MissSniper gets on well with you guys and she could tell stories.
... 'bout cheese and knickers?

Sniper
14th December 2005, 11:56
... 'bout cheese and knickers?

Thats disturbing.......

Colapop
14th December 2005, 12:00
Thats disturbing.......
No... disturbing is one in the other...:sick:

Biff
14th December 2005, 15:44
Wales!

And you survived?!

When & where?

Sniper
14th December 2005, 16:13
And you survived?!

When & where?

Don't tell him, he just wants to find out where you were so he can take you and do evil things to you behind open doors :lol:

jimbo600
14th December 2005, 16:28
Don't tell him, he just wants to find out where you were so he can take you and do evil things to you behind open doors :lol:

True. However I spent most of my time at llangwyddangaslyydruidyakidallewellyn. Heard of it?

Eurodave
14th December 2005, 19:30
Heres some pix of dad & his mates & their bikes when they were in the RNZAF at Woodburn in the 50's
Bling to the first KBer to correctly ID all four of the bikes

pritch
14th December 2005, 20:34
Heres some pix of dad & his mates & their bikes when they were in the RNZAF at Woodburn in the 50's
Bling to the first KBer to correctly ID all four of the bikes

Not too good on the fine detail But there is a Sunbeam, an Arial (Red Hunter?), a Royal Enfield (Bullet? pre India of course :-) and a Matchless (G3?) c 1953
it has jampots but hasn't got a full width hub on the front. The others are probably all similar period - early fifties.

Love the racing tyres and the "see through" helmets...

Eurodave
14th December 2005, 20:39
Not too good on the fine detail But there is a Sunbeam, an Arial (Red Hunter?), a Royal Enfield (Bullet? pre India of course :-) and a Matchless (G3?) c 1953
it has jampots but hasn't got a full width hub on the front. The others are probably all similar period - early fifties.

Love the racing tyres and the "see through" helmets...


Correct,:2thumbsup the Sunbeam is an S7 [16" wheels],apparently the solo seat was optional on the Matchy in '53 , yep, a Royal Oilfield Bullet & a Red Hunter [I think?] good on yer! Bling awarded

pritch
14th December 2005, 21:41
Thank you sir :-)

quickbuck
13th January 2006, 18:24
My old man is air force - 30 years now. W/O Graham Deacon.

Im set to join up at some stage. Just deciding whether im gonna join up soon as an aircraft tech, or if i'll stay at uni and join as a pilot.
Join as an Aircraft tech (even after uni), then switch to pilot after a few years. You will be a better pilot and have more respect by the troops with techo experience.

Myself, 15.5 years in the RNZAF as an aircraft tech, still serving. Worked on 14, 75, 3, now pushing pens. Love it.

swanman
15th January 2006, 11:14
Your raise good points, swannys comments however were focussed mainly at the squad small front line unit rather than the organisation as a whole(how i read it).

Correct, I was referring to the front line.

swanman
15th January 2006, 11:16
And I 'd like to work on a parts counter.

There's a plan here somewhere.

Ok mate, now all we need is the money for the premises, a dealer franchise agreement and a mechanic with tools. Simple when you put it like that.

Colapop
15th January 2006, 11:22
I'll be your promoter/salesperson/coffeemaker/floorsweeper whatever ya want if ya gimme a bike!

Bonez
15th January 2006, 11:40
Hey Bonez,
Still got that black & white pic I took of you on your GSX?[now theres a blast from the past!]
Sorry for the late reply Dave. It's framed and been hanging in the lounge for the last 12 years to remind me of the good times I had at wiggers ;). Funny how you managed to get that grave cross effect from that rail ah? :clap: Might add I got another GSX750 in the same colour scheme a couple of years back.

Bonez
15th January 2006, 11:49
Hiya Folks, Been a Cracker Stacker in the RNZAF for 23 years! Am now off in search of adventure & allowances with the Navy so I can afford a new bike....Hope like heck the photos come out, shows me on the deck of USS Kittyhawk & the boys in action at sea.Baden you nutcase(he's really a nice guy-honest). Nice pics. How's the fandamnly mate? Slick and his wiffy were on last years coast to coast run.

saiko
15th January 2006, 12:17
Armoured Corps 3.5 years. I just love a big gun.

Eurodave
15th January 2006, 17:18
Sorry for the late reply Dave. It's framed and been hanging in the lounge for the last 12 years to remind me of the good times I had at wiggers ;). Funny how you managed to get that grave cross effect from that rail ah? :clap: Might add I got another GSX750 in the same colour scheme a couple of years back.


Hey bud, good to hear from you,its sure been a while, thought ''Bonez" was you! Hows things?

CPB
15th January 2006, 17:29
1RNZIR Linton for a few years...Infantry, Whiskey Company...many moons ago now...

Bonez
15th January 2006, 17:43
Hey bud, good to hear from you,its sure been a while, thought ''Bonez" was you! Hows things?Good thanks. Done the married thing. Got clobbered on the skull by a Macchi canopy and the memory isn't that flash now days ( Connie says it's because of the alcohol I consumed in my younger days ;) ), doing a bit of general enginneering, welding and such, at FeildAir at Milson Airport. Something I've never done before- who said you can't teach an ol dog new tricks :eek5: . Still love my 70s/80s 4 cylinder Jap air cooled shitters, with a single in the mix for the hell of it :chase: Still have room for half a dozen more. :innocent: As you can see fron the pic below I've let myself go a bit since we last met lol. How have you been ol son?

Eurodave
17th January 2006, 21:59
Bonez,hey m8, I too let my facial hair grow after I got out of the mob, I got called 'Borneo Wild Man' by a few mates for a while there. These days though I now sport a neatly trimmed goatee [well...some of the time, esp when Im @ births weddings, stonings & hangings] After I left the Air Farce I had a bike shop in CHCH for a while but after my boy died of cancer :crazy: I packed that in,built another garage & now play @ home :woohoo:

Fryin Finn
18th January 2006, 06:48
I was in the sea cadets in my yoof - got to Petty Officer - does that count:oi-grr:

Sniper
18th January 2006, 06:49
I was in the sea cadets in my yoof - got to Petty Officer - does that count:oi-grr:

It does in my books. Always a pleasure picking on a rookie that knew what they were doing.

Gibbo13p
10th September 2007, 23:40
You guys are so lucky!!! (sarcasm) I went to Singapore for a bit to help out with the 1st battalion pullout but only for about a month. I spent more time pissed than anything and don't remember doing much work or remember much at all!

Bet you remember Mums bar and Dannys at Far east Plaza :Punk:

That was at the end of my best Grunting trip, was posted to Alpha Coy for the duration, got home left 1RNZIR in 91' for RNZCT and got out as a driver trainer at the wing in Linton 2005. Had three tips to Sinai before I ended my RF career..what a lifer eh! Sorta Like Bonez (but not so hairy face wise and ginger LOL sorry Bonez:Pokey:see ya at work mate...)

Mr Merde
11th September 2007, 00:08
5 mile sniper in NZ Army in the mid to late 70's. Gunner

Earning my wings in the UK Army mid 80's. Trooper.

Accepted to train at Sandhurst with the RCT and earn some birdcrap for my shoulders late 80's. Other commitments meant turning this down.

Army brat all my life. the old man was RSM 161 Bty, 16 Field Reg. RNZA till he retired in the early 70's.

Merde

shafty
11th September 2007, 00:14
Hiya Folks, Been a Cracker Stacker in the RNZAF for 23 years! Am now off in search of adventure & allowances with the Navy so I can afford a new bike....Hope like heck the photos come out, shows me on the deck of USS Kittyhawk & the boys in action at sea.

Way Cool pics Mate! :clap:

shafty
11th September 2007, 00:41
Cool thread; nothing "Major" here, but enjoyed 5 years as TF Grunt Driver, 6th Hauraki then Trentham, started on the good old RL's - did the 1st Unimog training course run - Driver training was definitely a good choice - fond memories of Annual Camp at Six Cross (Original Cold Kiwi site) where fellow Grunts were running everywhere in the sun all kitted up, while I grabbed some shade under the truck sipping a sly beer......ah, the perks! Passed POSB and was offered RF intake and posting to Singapore, but a lovely Girl at the time stopped me from committing. Hmmmm. Sometimes wonder where I would've ended up.

Great to read of others exploits, much respect and great memories...

Grub
11th September 2007, 06:52
I have found all my Grandfather's old war photos

Mate don't forget to pass those by one of the War Museum Curators will you. As Cola said, they're exceptional quality and they may fill in a piece of history. The important stuff is often the details in the background. That crash may be the only pic of it, the aircraft registrations and the locations. They could be the only photos of those things or people in the living history.

Grub
11th September 2007, 07:11
I served with a 'chick' called Venus who could piss standing up, drink most guys under the table and slug it with the best of them in any bar fight (or other) and yet she was still feminine. She even liked wearing dresses!

They let transvestites in the army now???? For god's sake don't tell Swanman, he'll have a heart attack.

NighthawkNZ
11th September 2007, 07:22
Ex Royal New Zealand Navy. 7 or 8 years (counts fingers :mellow: errr) Radar served HMNZS Wellington, Waikato, Southland, Canterbury, Tui, Pukaki and very short stint ashore.

Enjoyed it been round the world heaps of Oppo's


HMNZS Waikato
HMNZS Tui
HMNZS Pukaki
HMNZS Wellintington (I be the guy on the end of the rope)

dogsnbikes
11th September 2007, 08:45
RNZN 87-95 joined as seamen/Ew before transferring to Cooks branch
served on/at boatyard,Taupo,Tui,Wellington,Waikato,canterbury,I rrangi,Philly(main and hospital)the old Tamaki main and OTC

spent 2weeks stuck in singapore and went into malaysia with Aussi mortor co
spent abit of time at dems range cooking for FC2 courses etc

Hi-lite 93 battle of Alantic 50th deployment
and keeping one step ahead of the regulators:innocent:

craigs288
11th September 2007, 08:47
Did just over 7 years in the NZ Army. The first 18months partying up in Trentham at CIT and then shafted to Waiberia for the last 5 and a half years.
The last couple of years was at QAMR and got a trip to East Timor from October 99 thru to about June 2000.
When I started it was all good, heavy drinking, lots of getting f$%ked around for the sake of getting f%$ked around, but by the end things were getting pretty soft.
The whole show got softened up, physically and emotionally so that they could allow all the sick, lame and lazies (and women/girls) to pass without making them cry too much, or being accused of discrimination.
The best thing I learned was how to 'not get caught' doing anything.
It was a good experience while it lasted and I had plenty of good mates, but by the time I left I was pretty anti-army and anti-government.
Good character building stuff. I just concerned about what sort of character it built. I'm still willing to call a spade a spade and not give a f%$k about what people think.

TLMAN
11th September 2007, 09:29
Im currently serving with the NZ SAS - (saturdays and sundays or TF) whichever you prefer. About to head to Solomons next year for a 4 month stint.

terbang
11th September 2007, 09:37
RNZEME 1979-1981 based Papakura. Finished my apprenticeship with the Army. A good time for a young lad.

Beemer
11th September 2007, 11:00
I'm a correspondent for the Army News - got a badge with my name on it but a contractor rather than an employee!

aer0
11th September 2007, 16:27
am a civi emplyoyee to NZDF - does that count?

have been around the place for 4 years now.
work for JISA and based in trentham at the moment

Griff
11th September 2007, 16:40
Served 5 years in the Royal Marines (40 Commando). Falklands War and N.I.
(That was a long time ago).

ghost
11th September 2007, 16:45
13 years communcations in a variety of lurvly places around NZ and the world. Been out for a life time (7 years) now..

KoroJ
11th September 2007, 18:30
Cool thread; ........ but a lovely Girl at the time stopped me from committing. Hmmmm. Sometimes wonder where I would've ended up...

Pissed and single!!

shafty
11th September 2007, 18:44
Pissed and single!!

I think the exp:2thumbsupression is actually "Young, dumb and full of cum" lol

engineer007
3rd April 2008, 07:15
served nz navy 4 yrs

firefighter
9th April 2008, 12:24
I was in the Air Training Corp (7 sqd) for four years from when I was 13, does that count? :banana:


No it doesn't!................:Pokey: 4 1/2 years RNZN (CY and T.K), been in RNZAF for the last two, so 6 1/2 years, still un-promoted! hahaha, that's what I get for being a re-tread huh? Haven't been deployed anywhere since iv'e been a Flyboy, in the puss I was never home- although that was the intention of the service and trade change so not a complaint! I just feel sorry for the young fullas who thought the Air Force would send them somewhere.......:kick:

The Lone Rider
9th April 2008, 12:26
Join the Patriots.

www.patriotsmc.co.nz

info@patriotsmc.co.nz

I'm not in the Patriots, but several of them I would call good friends.

firefighter
9th April 2008, 12:33
am a civi emplyoyee to NZDF - does that count?

have been around the place for 4 years now.
work for JISA and based in trentham at the moment

NO not you either! Hmmmmm a bit grumbly from me but if you haven't done a recruit course - passed and contributed you can't really say you've served in the defence force......that's just my opinion though if everone feels different well then ok. (I just feel as a civilian your doing a civilian job behind a fence, not really a seviceman, no offence yes you are important and needed etc but it's not the same)

KiwiRat
9th April 2008, 14:22
NO not you either! Hmmmmm a bit grumbly from me but if you haven't done a recruit course - passed and contributed you can't really say you've served in the defence force......that's just my opinion though if everone feels different well then ok. (I just feel as a civilian your doing a civilian job behind a fence, not really a seviceman, no offence yes you are important and needed etc but it's not the same)

i tend to agree. No slight intended to those civilian staff members, but it just aint the same.

10 years in the Marine Engineering branch of the RNZN. Been out 17 years but still can't shake my past. At my present workplace, out of 19 staff, 10 of us are all ex Navy. All from the Marine Engineering branch, and all roughly from the same era. Makes for an extremely comfy workplace when you can tell your manager that he's acting like a cunt without fear of recrimination. (We were apprentices together.)

P.S. Photos taken from HMNZS Waikato

Delerium
9th April 2008, 15:29
Communications tech in the airforce 7 years and counting. In new Caledonia at the moment. its hot.

Wannabiker
9th April 2008, 16:07
19and a half years in the Army and still serving. Currently a recruiter. Joined as a Vehicle mechanic after qualifying in civvy st. Trade changed to Dental Technician, and am the last serving dental tech in the NZDF (and the only one) Will return to the trade at the end of the year....

Nade
9th April 2008, 18:53
Yes...there is a Motorcycle club for ex and currently serving members of the defence force...this includes terrys. At the moment there is a chapter in Auckland....Christchurch here in blenheim and talk of one starting up in the deep south. We have 16 members here in blenheim....unsure of membership in other chapters but it is extensive. There are also The Patriots Australia who we are affiliated with and they have chapters in most states and The Patriots in the UK who we have contact with. New members are more than welcome!!!! Plenty of organised and impromtu rides..poker runs...and tours to rallys etc.

For more info feel free to PM me, and I can put you in touch with the secretary of your nearest chapter if you so desire.

The national website is still a bit out of date....underconstrution etc.

Gibbo13p
9th April 2008, 19:20
i want to join the army but im to chicken arrg :wait:

Just do it man.....the moneys not bad, just pick something more than grunting if your that worried......research makes things easier to make decisions....:cool:

devnull
9th April 2008, 19:28
2 1/2 years in the Army when younger - best thing I ever did

NighthawkNZ
9th April 2008, 19:30
ex RNZN RP did 7 odd years... drunk heaps fell over heaps saw heaps...(Remember fuck all)

Served: HMNZS Wellington, Waikato, Southland, Tui, Pukaki, and both main bases
http://www.quantumillusions.com/photo/index.php?twg_album=Navy%2FRNZN
(many of these were found on the net as well many taken by me)

Rogue
9th April 2008, 19:48
RNZIR 1978-1988 :ar15:
Great time :drinknsin:drinkup:

sAsLEX
9th April 2008, 19:50
Yes...there is a Motorcycle club for ex and currently serving members of the defence force..

Heard there is not many crotch rockets on these rides?

sAsLEX
9th April 2008, 19:55
both main bases


What Philomel and Irirangi?

ArcherWC
9th April 2008, 20:03
10 Years in RNZN
Joined as a WEM, then changed over to RF, then a couple of years at the end at ISG.

The club for serving and ex services is the Patriots

http://www.patriotsmc.co.nz

And your right, not many sprots bikes, but the is some, great social group though

YLWDUC
9th April 2008, 20:08
Heard there is not many crotch rockets on these rides?

if you're in auckland theres always the ATNR for crotch rockets. i get along there occasionally from whenuapai.

Heard there was a navy club starting up for serving members? Anyone know anything?

sAsLEX
9th April 2008, 20:26
Heard there was a navy club starting up for serving members? Anyone know anything?

Yeah there is, there is mention of it on the Navy(intranet) website under the club websites, and there is a calender with rides that gets updated not often enough.

I will give the guys a kick and see about organising another ride for that.

Swoop
9th April 2008, 21:42
At my present workplace, out of 19 staff, 10 of us are all ex Navy.
You working at the power station? Sounds like there has been a takeover there.

KiwiRat
9th April 2008, 22:29
Yeah, slowly but surely we are taking over. It just happens that every time a staff member leaves, the most suitable candidate happens to be ex Navy.

Go figure.:shifty:

Jacko2
9th April 2008, 23:13
Any ex-grunts on here?
1st and 2nd battalions, (1970s-80s)
Name will give ya a clue, pm me.
JACKO

Nade
10th April 2008, 13:05
Heard there is not many crotch rockets on these rides?

Not alot no.....but who cares...rules only require a bike over 250cc.
Plenty of 'good humoured' rivalry like any shit slinging biker about others choices of ride. :rockon:

The Lone Rider
10th April 2008, 14:17
Plenty of 'good humoured' rivalry like any shit slinging biker about others choices of ride. :rockon:

Yeah, just make sure you don't end up going out (briefly) with any girls that win wet t comps at Patriot hosted rallies! Or so I learnt... :blank:

firefighter
10th April 2008, 14:25
Not me, but since moving into my Grandmother's house, I have found all my Grandfather's old war photos. He was RAAF 3 Sqdn and served from 1939-1945. Also have his flight log books and medals, Pacific Star, Africa Star and others. So fascinating to see the old pics and read his missions. He died in 88. Here are just a few if anyone's interested.

man you should put them into a museum........and pleeeeeeeaseeee don't sell them, to me I think that is disgustingly disrespectfull when people do that, the horrors faced to earn a piece of metal sold off for a quick meaningless buck is just wrong, look after that stuff and cherish it, or as I said a museum will look after it for you and keep it safe.

and thanks for sharing!

NOMIS
10th April 2008, 15:10
Recruit course 339
RNZA -"5 Mov" got injured and sent packing didnt get to do much after recruit course, all my mates are begining to leave as the armys shit. Full of false promises aparently. Was alot of fun while I was in Waiouru

YLWDUC
10th April 2008, 15:22
Yeah there is, there is mention of it on the Navy(intranet) website under the club websites, and there is a calender with rides that gets updated not often enough.

I will give the guys a kick and see about organising another ride for that.

Cheers sAs

firefighter
10th April 2008, 16:23
[/QUOTE]I've thought about joining the TF, but the fact is I'm a lazy fat bastard, so I just content myself with attending dawn parade and taking my moments silence etc.[/QUOTE]

you'll fit right in then!!!! :killingme

Nade
10th April 2008, 18:03
ummmmmm...any of you guys from whenuapai know Kreigs???

Navy....transfered to RNZAF...now crewman on sprite flight I think...

Gibbo13p
10th April 2008, 19:18
Any ex-grunts on here?
1st and 2nd battalions, (1970s-80s)
Name will give ya a clue, pm me.
JACKO

I'm an x-grunt from way back....not 70's though, BAA 205 only no about 3 jacko's lol

Gibbo

NUTBAR
10th April 2008, 20:23
3 1/2 years as a grunt, left as a lance jack,

Albownz
20th April 2008, 19:14
Ex army 22 years (transport) why walk with ya home on ya back when u can drive it :) X Patriots now a N.A.AF Ryder (Navy Army Airforce) so there is another choice for serving and ex serving DF pers.
www.homepages.paradise.net.nz/allan_p/index.html

gunnyrob
20th April 2008, 22:19
ummmmmm...any of you guys from whenuapai know Kreigs???

Navy....transfered to RNZAF...now crewman on sprite flight I think...


Kreegs is currently doing crewman training at 3 Sqn Ohakea. I'm currently serving with 6 Sqn (Sprites)

sAsLEX
20th April 2008, 22:21
I'm currently serving with 6 Sqn (Sprites)

You get to go to the Rugby the other night?

and seen this?
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Switch
20th April 2008, 22:23
ummmmmm...any of you guys from whenuapai know Kreigs???

Navy....transfered to RNZAF...now crewman on sprite flight I think...

I live in his house :cool:

gunnyrob
20th April 2008, 22:32
No, I was getting ready to go to Australia to check out their flight deck trainer at Nowra, so I didn't see the rugby ball get delivered.

Nade
21st April 2008, 14:29
Say HI to creegs from SHANZ and AZZA.

huff3r
6th January 2010, 23:06
:Oops: Massive thread dredge... :whocares:

Looking at joining the Airforce as an Aircraft Technician, sounds like fun with just enough challenge to keep me interested :bleh:

Tone165
7th January 2010, 00:57
Army from 1980 till 94. BAA 165. I still miss it in many ways.

sil3nt
7th January 2010, 06:59
:Oops: Massive thread dredge... :whocares:

Looking at joining the Airforce as an Aircraft Technician, sounds like fun with just enough challenge to keep me interested :bleh:Got a mate in the Airforce who earns far too much money for doing nothing.

Im gonna look at the army dunno how the misses is gonna take the news!

huff3r
7th January 2010, 09:56
Got a mate in the Airforce who earns far too much money for doing nothing.

Im gonna look at the army dunno how the misses is gonna take the news!

Yep, and thats tax-payers dollars they get paid with too! How could you argue with that?

meteor
7th January 2010, 10:15
In RNZN between May 84 'til March 88, rose to the dizzy heights of ASA! Served on Southland for it's Singapore and Hong Kong trip and Wellington while she was in refit. Swapped services after some LWOP so guess I'm 'institutionalised'

R6_kid
7th January 2010, 15:59
Looking at joining the Airforce as an Aircraft Technician, sounds like fun with just enough challenge to keep me interested :bleh:

There are a number of younger members on here that are at the beginning stages of enlistement. My friend Steve is on his Basic Engineering course at the moment which is the first step out of recruit course. He's got a CBR600RR and is loving it so far.

huff3r
7th January 2010, 18:56
There are a number of younger members on here that are at the beginning stages of enlistement. My friend Steve is on his Basic Engineering course at the moment which is the first step out of recruit course. He's got a CBR600RR and is loving it so far.

Awesome. I'm just waiting for the recruitment officers to get back to me so I can go and have a chat, learn how it all works. Then I should be all go, here's hoping i make the grade for fitness!!

sAsLEX
7th January 2010, 19:15
Awesome. I'm just waiting for the recruitment officers to get back to me so I can go and have a chat, learn how it all works. Then I should be all go, here's hoping i make the grade for fitness!!

The bar is not very high for fitness! Any reasonably active person should be able to do it.

neels
7th January 2010, 20:07
The bar is not very high for fitness! Any reasonably active person should be able to do it.
Things have probably changed since I left, I would expect to being easier, I never had any problem with fitness tests when I was in the mob and I was never very fit.. If I recall you only had to pass a fitness test by the end of your recruit course to complete it.

Anyway, seeing as the thread has popped up I was RNZAF from 1988-1998 as an avgeek, other than training I did 2 years a Ohakea and 5 years at Woodbourne before I pulled the pin. It's a good life if when you're single but sucks a bit once you have a wife, kids etc. Bloody good training to go and get a job in the real world later.

sAsLEX
7th January 2010, 20:21
Things have probably changed since I left, I would expect to being easier, I never had any problem with fitness tests when I was in the mob and I was never very fit.. If I recall you only had to pass a fitness test by the end of your recruit course to complete it.

Anyway, seeing as the thread has popped up I was RNZAF from 1988-1998 as an avgeek, other than training I did 2 years a Ohakea and 5 years at Woodbourne before I pulled the pin. It's a good life if when you're single but sucks a bit once you have a wife, kids etc. Bloody good training to go and get a job in the real world later.

Yeah technically we can't really make people complete a fitness test prior to joining, so they all get to go through initial training, and we are only just now getting to the point where we can kick people out for continual failing of fitness tests! Stupid employment law.

huff3r
7th January 2010, 21:42
The bar is not very high for fitness! Any reasonably active person should be able to do it.

The only bit that worries me is the push-ups cos i keep getting told i'm not doing them right :lol:

Everytime i try and improve to how everyone says i should be doing them, and then someone else comes along and says its wrong :Oops:

sAsLEX
7th January 2010, 21:54
The only bit that worries me is the push-ups cos i keep getting told i'm not doing them right :lol:

Everytime i try and improve to how everyone says i should be doing them, and then someone else comes along and says its wrong :Oops:

Straight line head to heel, arms shoulder width apart, and lower till your chest is a fist off the deck/your arms are parrallel to the deck.



<img src=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Liegestuetz02_ani_fcm.gif/180px-Liegestuetz02_ani_fcm.gif>

popa griffin
7th January 2010, 23:09
I never had any problem with fitness tests when I was in the mob and I was never very fit.. If I recall you only had to pass a fitness test by the end of your recruit course to complete it.

I know for the navy, you have to start at 7.1 on the beep test, 10 push ups and thats it i think. But you do the test 4 times throughout your training. And you have to better your last test each new test.

As for me, i tried for the navy twice and got kicked out of BCT's both times for medical reasons :'(

DougB
7th January 2010, 23:56
.
I served as a marine engineering apprentice at the Devonport Naval Base but it was a civilian job.

I was in the third intake of the compulsory military training in the 1950s, became a territorial army gun fitter.

Later when I became a secondary school teacher I was commissioned as a Cadet officer in the Kaitaia College
cadet unit. I became a range officer and formed a drum and bugle band.

From there I joined the regular Army for three years as a full time bandsman in the NZ Army band stationed at Burnham camp.
I marched up every main street from Whangarei to Invercargil playing my instrument. I was in on the beginning of the
fantastic marching displays now performed by this band around the country and at the Edinburgh Tattoo.

I am mainly remembered for the modified Corgi paratroopers scooter I used to run around the camp on and
take with me in the instrument truck when we went on tour. Named and clearly labeled "BEATSWALKIN"

eelracing
8th January 2010, 10:59
Straight line head to heel, arms shoulder width apart, and lower till your chest is a fist off the deck/your arms are parrallel to the deck.



<img src=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Liegestuetz02_ani_fcm.gif/180px-Liegestuetz02_ani_fcm.gif>



Ex Gunner 16 Field Regiment,161 Bty.And I still like to blow shit up...mainly two strokes nowadays tho


By the way that dude doin the pushups would fail...'shoulders should be parallel with elbows you fuckpig" as me old Sgt would say harhar

Mr Merde
8th January 2010, 11:09
Ex Gunner 16 Field Regiment,161 Bty.And I still like to blow shit up...mainly two strokes nowadays tho


By the way that dude doin the pushups would fail...'shoulders should be parallel with elbows you fuckpig" as me old Sgt would say harhar

When were you in?
My old man was BSM of 161 Btty, he retired in the mid 70's and died 1999.

eelracing
8th January 2010, 12:20
When were you in?
My old man was BSM of 161 Btty, he retired in the mid 70's and died 1999.


Your dad was before my time bud.

I was posted to 161 Bty in 1986 and the serving BSM was Matt TePou but he was about to move on then.He is currently coaching the NZ Maori rugby team i believe.I am not surprised that they are doing so well under his tutelage, he is one hard nut.

I got out in 1990 after they gave me a stripe and expected some kind of responsibility in return.(fuck that for a game of soldiers)Young and dumb and all that...but dont regret it.

R6_kid
8th January 2010, 13:42
The Air Force currently require applicants put forward for recruit course to do a Pre-enlistment fitness assessment. It's a 3.6km run which you have about 20mins to do (pretty easy) and 10 pushups. For girls they get an extra 5mins on the run and only have to do 2 pushups. Once your in the requirement is a 5km pack march with 20kg weighted vest completed in under 42mins and also 40 pushsups. They don't have much tolerance for people who don't meet the requirements and by all means it's in your best interest to meet the requirement the first time you do it.

huff3r
8th January 2010, 15:24
The Air Force currently require applicants put forward for recruit course to do a Pre-enlistment fitness assessment. It's a 3.6km run which you have about 20mins to do (pretty easy) and 10 pushups. For girls they get an extra 5mins on the run and only have to do 2 pushups. Once your in the requirement is a 5km pack march with 20kg weighted vest completed in under 42mins and also 40 pushsups. They don't have much tolerance for people who don't meet the requirements and by all means it's in your best interest to meet the requirement the first time you do it.

That doesn't sound too harsh, I'm not overweight or anything, just a little unfit.. but i just walked/ran about 10ks in less than 1.25hrs this morning :D

I just need to get out more and spend less time on the computer on kb! :lol:

1vanvan1
8th January 2010, 17:20
The only bit that worries me is the push-ups cos i keep getting told i'm not doing them right :lol:

Everytime i try and improve to how everyone says i should be doing them, and then someone else comes along and says its wrong :Oops:

TBH with you the fitness test should be the least of your worries. You get ample of time to pass it over the 3 months and with PT 3 times a week you will easily build up your press ups. Plus everyone wants to improve there press ups so everyone does them in the dorm at night. I went from 34 counted (actually did about 45) to 52 counted at the end. And I didn't so much extra training.

The 20kg pack march is a joke. You can walk over half of it and still get 35 minutes. I know for a fact cause I has shin splints and it hurt like fuck!

I's great fun though. Once you get over them yelling at you for little stuff it gets easy. Just don't slack off or you WILL know about it!

quickbuck
8th January 2010, 18:26
Once your in the requirement is a 5km pack march with 20kg weighted vest completed in under 42mins and also 40 pushsups. They don't have much tolerance for people who don't meet the requirements and by all means it's in your best interest to meet the requirement the first time you do it.

Umm, that would be for an F1 rating. It is 43 minutes, and 30 push ups for under 30's for an F2.
F2 means you get to do the thing again in 6 months. F1 will last a year.
At the end of the day EVERY troop should be able to obtain at least an F2 on any given day.......

Employment laws mean there is a procedure to deal with people once they fail, and basically you have 3 months to come up to scratch......
So, there is actually quite a lot of tolerance.

There is much less tolerance for slack workmanship though.... especially on my watch ;)


So R6 Kid, what ever happened to your plans to join the mob? Still thinking of it?

quickbuck
8th January 2010, 18:32
The 20kg pack march is a joke. You can walk over half of it and still get 35 minutes. I know for a fact cause I has shin splints and it hurt like fuck!


By definition, you should be able to WALK (March) the whole thing!
I have done hundreds of them (well about 50) and can consistently do it in 40 minutes flat without running at all.

You will be surprised at how many 30+ people actually struggle with the march... Too much beer causes it!

Good on you for doing the press-ups at night in the dorm.
Guess you don't have much brass and lino to polish these days ;)

roadracingoldfart
8th January 2010, 20:12
I never saw this thread before , im blind i guess.

Went through Sea Cadet forces , reached P.O. and then N.Z.Navy as A.B on Fisheries patrol M/Ls which was awesome,
then i was sent to the original Cantebury and told the Navy to get stuffed.


Paul.

CM2005
8th January 2010, 20:25
Yeah Medic in the RNZAF - its an alright job, though nothing like i'd imagined.. I wont be in for more than 2 more years i'd say.

huff3r
9th January 2010, 16:23
Ok, so can anyone help me with this? For the Aircraft Technician job it says you have to do the 17-week NMIT aviaton course, but what process does this follow? i.e is it Apply, Get Accepted, Do Course, Upon Passing Course do Recruit Course?

Or are you expected to do this course prior to applying or prior to being accepted? Because i wouldnt wanna do the course and then be told "oh, sorry we don't have a job for you"

And btw i'm not a senior member yet so have no idea who's blinged me ;)

CM2005
9th January 2010, 16:34
Pretty much spot on, they make you do the course because the old - "aero eng" course had too many failures and it was costing $$ to train failures. so to eliminate that you do what was aero eng now, then recruit course. the chances of u being left without a job are very very low. haha

huff3r
9th January 2010, 16:36
Pretty much spot on, they make you do the course because the old - "aero eng" course had too many failures and it was costing $$ to train failures. so to eliminate that you do what was aero eng now, then recruit course. the chances of u being left without a job are very very low. haha

Sweet, cheers for that! Because i doubt i'd fail the course :D

The recruiting office still hasnt got back to me from an email i sent 4 or 5 days ago so its great to get such a quick answer elsewhere :lol:

Wannabiker
9th January 2010, 16:47
21 years. Still serving. Dental Technician at Trentham. Was recruiter for past 2 years.

Wannabiker
9th January 2010, 16:48
Sweet, cheers for that! Because i doubt i'd fail the course :D

The recruiting office still hasnt got back to me from an email i sent 4 or 5 days ago so its great to get such a quick answer elsewhere :lol:

You will find the recruiting office will most likely open this coming Monday. Most starting back then....

CM2005
9th January 2010, 16:56
21 years. Still serving. Dental Technician at Trentham. Was recruiter for past 2 years.

whats trentham like then?? i know the town doens't have much going for it, how's the camp? I'm possibly posted to EOD this coming month