Save the Race manoeuvers for the Race Track!!!!!

[mv.senna]

HI GUYS.
I don't normally start threads or post much, but I am SO pissed off, that just have to on this one.

Ok, today, I started out with the coro loop ride. Poor Juzzer gets a flat, so after getting it fixed, we both decide to pull the pin on the ride and head back to AKL.

we passed a well known, very senior member of KB while riding back. He was doing under a 100k on the SH, and we passed him at little over 100km.

Juzz and I are riding along on a passing lane alongside each other - him in the right lane, me in the left....keeping a watchful eye on my mirrors for traffic stuck behind....and JUST AS WELL!!

the next second - WITH NO PRIOR WARNING!!! - the "senior" member of KB underpasses me, in a racetrack manouver to pull a less than impressive rossi-like attempt at the 65km corner where the SH2 joins back onto SH1 on the sthside of the bombays.... I'm going WTF????

not only did the "senior" member leave NO ROOM FOR ERROR on a state highway, but he took a liberty with my personal wellbeing - something i take a real issue with!! Had i moved a few inches to the left, both of us - and possibly Juzzer too, would've been history.

"senior" member, you know who you are, this is not a personal attack, but a call for you and others to leave the race manoevers to the race track....YOU KNOW BETTER!!!!

every time there's a KB ride, there's some issue - there have been recent posts about ettiquette when passing slower riders....is it going to take a death from this type of thoughtless, testosterone driven behaviour before some of you learn??!!!

I rode every weekend for 3 years with the same group of people....we NEVER ONCE had a bin...OR any close calls. WTF is it with the KB rides - there's at least one bin on each major ride, and multiple accounts of dangerous behaviour. I'm already extra picky about the rides i go on with KB, as I really love my bike, and value my life....and i want to get home in one piece.

I like the KB people I've met, they're all good people, without exception - the "senior" member i refer to in this rant included. This thread is no reflection on the ride organiser (who is a GREAT guy) nor the other KBers on the ride itself, the object of this rant is to try and make some of you (who pull dumb shit like this on the road) think, and take responsibility for your actions

Rant over...

[Pathos]

ugh, riding on the open roads is dangerous enough for me with out anyone else getting involved. I was quite pleased on my last ride with waylander and Road Rash that we each gave each other a good 20-30 meters.

[TLDV8]

HI GUYS.
Juzz and I are riding along on a passing lane alongside each other - him in the right lane, me in the left

Fair enough about the undertaking but why were you using both lanes when it clearly states use the left lane unless passing... i !@#$en hate that,bad enough cars let alone bikes :doh: ..everyone has a pet peeve me thinks...This sounds like the fairly narrow part that leads to the tight right hander where you start to climb the Bombay's,not a spot for shenanigans. (imo as a perfect rider)

[mv.senna]

Fair enough about the undertaking but why were you using both lanes when it clearly states use the left lane unless passing... i !@#$en hate that,bad enough cars let alone bikes :doh: ..everyone has a pet peeve me thinks.

cars were ahead, was planning to move right and pass - and was giving juzz room, as i don't like sitting up arse of other bikes.....

[BLACKYOSHI1000]

IT GET`S NO BETTER UP FRONT WE HAD TWO OTHER ROSSI`S STUCK UP MY BUTT TRYING TO GIVE ME A SHOVE ( A CBRR 1000 AND`A RED R1)JUST AFTER 1 GUY HAD COME OFF :doh: THEN PAST ME NO PROB WITH THAT GUY`S BUT WAT`S WITH THE RACE RIDING KNEE`S OUT AND ALL THE DRAMA :slap: I DID SAY THIS COROLOOP RIDE WAS GOIN TO TAKE IT EASY ENDED UP I WAS TO CROOK AND TIRED TO GO PAST CORO SO HEADED BACK WITH A FEW OTHER`S :chase:
ONLY TO HAVE SOME CLOWN IN A CAR COME OVER TO MY SIDE OF THE ROAD FUCK NEAR GOT ME TOO:yes: TOOK HIS DRIVE`S MIRROR OFF WITH MY ELBOW:doh:
ALL IN ALL LAST I HEARD 4 RIDER`S CAME OFF AND ME FUCKIN CLOSE:angry:

[boomer]

mv-senna :- Glad to see you two got back in one piece.. big ups for helpin Juzza. I take it the plug held :blip: Man the boy looked greeeeeen. I finally found the pack in coromandel havin lunch.

Sorry to see you had a close call.. don't let this put you off :slap:

[TLDV8]

cars were ahead, was planning to move right and pass - and was giving juzz room, as i don't like sitting up arse of other bikes.....

I stand corrected,excellent skill's then :niceone: ..as for the other,who knows,perhaps it was a case of a last minute decision (right or wrong ) that was carried through.

[Zed]

...I rode every weekend for 3 years with the same group of people....we NEVER ONCE had a bin...OR any close calls. WTF is it with the KB rides - there's at least one bin on each major ride, and multiple accounts of dangerous behaviour. I'm already extra picky about the rides i go on with KB, as I really love my bike, and value my life....and i want to get home in one piece...Worthwhile rant Jo, sorry to read about this.

The thing with KB group rides is that there is always a different mix of riders, and I suppose that's where complications occur because you aren't familiar eachother's riding. In saying that, I've been riding regularly with different KB groups for about 2 years now and contrary to popular thought there IS NOT a bin or close call in each major ride! :cool:

[juzzer]

mv-senna :- Glad to see you two got back in one piece.. big ups for helpin Juzza. I take it the plug held :blip: Man the boy looked greeeeeen. I finally found the pack in coromandel havin lunch.

Sorry to see you had a close call.. don't let this put you off :slap:

Greenies for you mate, thanks for doing the tikki back to help a VERY hung over brother out :2thumbsup

[Waylander]

ugh, riding on the open roads is dangerous enough for me with out anyone else getting involved. I was quite pleased on my last ride with waylander and Road Rash that we each gave each other a good 20-30 meters.
Yea shame we got rained on, have to go again sometime when the weather is nicer and I' not sick.
This is just one more reason why I don't like big group rides with peaple at different skill levels. Me and Slash did the loop last sunday and neither one of us had any problems.
Riding with alot of riders exspeacially when a good group of them are racers just invites more risk than newer or slower riders should be exposed to. The racers will always want to go fast and the newer riders will want to keep up. On a road where anything can happen, as shown by the car nearly taking out Yoshi, there just isn't enough room for race track rising.

[mv.senna]

I stand corrected,excellent skill's then :niceone: ..as for the other,who knows,perhaps it was a case of a last minute decision (right or wrong ) that was carried through.

Thanks for your comments TLDV8 :2thumbsup
...i wondered about the last minute decision thing too, as it seemed strange to be putting along at less than 100k on a SH. At first i thought he mighta been low on gas, (even tho there'd been a station 2-3kms back).

However, the full-on acceleration towards the only decent corner in 10kms of road, combined with the calculated knee down manouevers through the corner kind of made me realise it wasn't a last minute oops-related decision...which is why i was so hacked off.

if it was clearly a case of an "Oops" then i wouldn't have started the thread.... after all, we're all guilty of "oops" type mistakes/decisions.

[BLACKYOSHI1000]

I DO AGREE WITH YOU AND I ALSO LIKE TO GET ALONG QUICKER SOMETIMES
BUT THERE REALLY MUST BE A TIME AND PLACE AND IF YOU " DO " WANT TO GO LIKE A ROSSI DONT GO ON A RIDE THAT`S FOR SLOWER RIDER`S (IE TODAY`S RIDE SAW A LOT OF NEW FACE`S )BECAUSE SHIT WILL HAPPEN
SO IF YA INTO GETTIN YA KNEE`S DOWN AND USEING BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD A LOT OF US JUST ARNT INTERESTED:eyepoke:

[justsomeguy]

In saying that, I've been riding regularly with different KB
groups for about 2 years now and contrary to popular thought there IS NOT a bin or close call in each major ride! :cool:

Yes but most of us know each other's riding styles quite well by now as we have been on tons of rides together.

A lot of bins have been caused by some of the newbies to KB thinking this is some kind of underground racing club...... :nono:

[Waylander]

Wonder what gives them that idea.

[pritch]

IT GET`S NO BETTER UP FRONT WE HAD TWO OTHER ROSSI`S STUCK UP MY BUTT TRYING TO GIVE ME A SHOVE ( A CBRR 1000 AND`A RED R1)JUST AFTER 1 GUY HAD COME OFF :doh: THEN PAST ME NO PROB WITH THAT GUY`S BUT WAT`S WITH THE RACE RIDING KNEE`S OUT AND ALL THE DRAMA :slap: I DID SAY THIS COROLOOP RIDE WAS GOIN TO TAKE IT EASY ENDED UP I WAS TO CROOK AND TIRED TO GO PAST CORO SO HEADED BACK WITH A FEW OTHER`S :chase:
ONLY TO HAVE SOME CLOWN IN A CAR COME OVER TO MY SIDE OF THE ROAD FUCK NEAR GOT ME TOO:yes: TOOK HIS DRIVE`S MIRROR OFF WITH MY ELBOW:doh:
ALL IN ALL LAST I HEARD 3 RIDER`S CAME OFF AND ME FUCKIN CLOSE:angry:

Bugger! Has Winja gotta brother? :-)

[justsomeguy]

WTF is it with the KB rides - there's at least one bin on each major ride, and multiple accounts of dangerous behaviour. I'm already extra picky about the rides i go on with KB, as I really love my bike, and value my life....and i want to get home in one piece....

I'm starting to feel that way too....... at least the old KB'ers still organise their rides. :)

I guess you were busy with stuff, you should have come with us yesterday. We had a PERFECT day. Had the fellas out front maxing out their 1100cc bikes but still even slow fellas like me felt included.

[White trash]

Sorry Yosh, we're gonna disagree on this one too.

If you're gonna have open invite rides, you're gonna get all styles of riders. I wasn't there but I think I know exactly who the two riders you speak of are.

Both show outstanding levels of bike control and personally, I'd have no problem riding with either of them.

Unless it's someone else. Then I'm just talking shit again.

[nsrpaul]

no undertaking on the road EVER , pretty simple really

[Sensei]

3 crashes in one ride !! How do you guy's manage so many off's ? I suppose that's what you get when you have so many people riding together , Have you group leader's thought of spilting the group up into Skill & speed pack's . Fast of first / medium second / slow last . As well as keep the group's smaller as well ??

[marty]

yeah - the fast guys could go first, and paint warnings on the road - gravel, tight corner, potholes - that sort of thing. then the medium guys could come through, complain about the corners and gravel and potholes that were missed by the fast guys, then the slow guys could come through, with a van and trailer bringing up the rear. sounds like a fan fucking tastic idea.

[boomer]

3 crashes in one ride !! How do you guy's manage so many off's ? I suppose that's what you get when you have so many people riding together , Have you group leader's thought of spilting the group up into Skill & speed pack's . Fast of first / medium second / slow last . As well as keep the group's smaller as well ??

Ambition and ability can be confused sometimes, theres little that can be done to stop the over zealousness other than experience i reckon. Just a case of everyone heeding the old phrase... 'Ride at your own pace'.

It wasn't 3 :whistle:

[nsrpaul]

i think it sounds like people need to speak up more , when rides happen round here we are all pretty up front before hand about what kind of riding we like to do ( hard in a real large group , i know) and if somebody unertook me , i'd have Quite a bit to say at the next stop

[nsrpaul]

ride at your own pace , well said

[boomer]

in all fairness.. It was said in the thread and at the initial meet. It was well organised, just one of those days.

[Sensei]

[QUOTE=boomer]Ambition and ability can be confused sometimes, theres little that can be done to stop the over zealousness other than experience i reckon. Just a case of everyone heeding the old phrase... 'Ride at your own pace'.

Still down to the group leader to put his Fucken foot down & make his point heard . Ya want to ride like a Fuck Whit then go Now !! other wise ride to the safety of the rest of the group you are with .

[nsrpaul]

[QUOTE=boomer]Ambition and ability can be confused sometimes, theres little that can be done to stop the over zealousness other than experience i reckon. Just a case of everyone heeding the old phrase... 'Ride at your own pace'.

Still down to the group leader to put his Fucken foot down & make his point heard . Ya want to ride like a Fuck Whit then go Now !! other wise ride to the safety of the rest of the group you are with .
i agree , but its not easy to say , but i agree
its also why im pretty choosy bout who i ride with

[Mumbles]

Skills on checking the mirrors!!:2thumbsup

On rides shit happens. judgement error on that senior KB rider part? We are only human.

Never been on a KB group ride, and some of the negative posts here aren’t doing much in the encouragement stakes.

When riding with my mates and someone does something wrong we bin them out next possible chance (next time we stop):bash: . More often and not it’s due to drop in concentration and/or communication. We all learn and move on, if someone continues to put us in danger they never get another invite on a ride.:angry:

Stipulate the rules for your ride before you ride, have basic signals for passing, and rider positioning in the group. Some of you guys have been doing these rides long enough to know how you ride quickly and safely. How about posting what makes these rides work, and set them as standard KB rule.

Mabe I'll even tag along on one of these rides one day....

[Zed]

i agree , but its not easy to say , but i agree
its also why im pretty choosy bout who i ride withI'm choosy who I ride with too, but not to the detriment of meeting new riders. I think a lot of KBers miss out on a side of KiwiBiker that is most important - meeting & riding with other members, new and old, face to face! :ride:

Too many of you's have a clouded reality of what KB is about, hence the vicious rumors that are spreading out there about KB rides being dangerous and frequented by road racing maniacs - rubbish! These talebearers have no idea what they're talking about cos they aren't participating in the rides like some of us are regularly. Come to think of it, I know of no KBers who ride most weekends on KB rides who have this mindset about KB rides being bad. :no:

I was at my work Christmas function several weeks ago and met the husband of a woman I work with, he is also into bikes and rides heaps, and he told me to my face that "KB rides are dangerous". Now he's not a KBer, but he says he's been on a couple of KB rides and they turned to custard in his opinion. I didn't argue his point but I did defend KB rides. I was rather taken back by this stranger, non-KBer saying such things!

[boomer]

well said Zed.. i had a wicked day:banana:

[Goblin]

I was at my work Christmas function several weeks ago and met the husband of a woman I work with, he is also into bikes and rides heaps, and he told me to my face that "KB rides are dangerous". Now he's not a KBer, but he says he's been on a couple of KB rides and they turned to custard in his opinion. I didn't argue his point but I did defend KB rides. I was rather taken back by this stranger, non-KBer saying such things![/QUOTE]

ALL Motorcycle rides are dangerous! Not just KB rides, although I'm still a noob at these, but I have been on countless Poker Runs and rallies and there are sometimes casualties. Fact of life! IMHO the KB rides have been far less dangerous because there are smaller numbers and I haven't seen any hogs.Yet.

If everyone remembers to keep to their own pace and try not to be a hero, then everyone will have fun. Isn't that what it's all about?

[Big Dave]

no undertaking on the road EVER , pretty simple really

Hear hear - i'll give somebody one warning/chance.
Do it to me twice and they have a problem. A 'big' problem.
NEVER on the road.

[M1CRO]

I'm choosy who I ride with too, but not to the detriment of meeting new riders.

Same! Thats why I didnt sit with you at lunch :killingme

But seriously, we had a great day on Saturday... Invariably, you find the "group" splits up anyway and after all its the social factor that counts as well :)

BTW Zed, thanks for Sat... Can you tell I enjoyed myself :rockon:

[Zed]

Same! Thats why I didnt sit with you at lunch :killingmeCourse you didn't sit next to me, half to time you were huddling in the opposite corner having a puff! :bleh:

Glad you enjoyed yerself man. We'll have to do some more 'practising' along them Hunua straights some time real soon.

[TLDV8]

If everyone remembers to keep to their own pace and try not to be a hero, then everyone will have fun. Isn't that what it's all about?

Exactly :niceone: .... I have been on a few KB rides and they were fine (imho) .. sometimes the basic's can be forgotten in the moment... not indicating ( i have done it myself) when passing... following way to close...and sometimes the passing speeds are high,i would hate to see someone get collected from behind by someone else going a 100 kph faster due to the power differences , imo the onus is on the following rider to look out for the guy in front and so on.... after all the road rules apply to all vehicles,there isn't a special set for bikes. ..and it really is about having fun but not at someones elses expense.Perhaps that is what is special about motorcyclists,as a rule they do look out for each other.:2thumbsup

[vladi]

Yoshi , the R1 and CBR past you becouse you were slow :doobey: They are not Rossi and they are not trying to be Rossi.This is the way they ride.:rockon: There are slow and fast riders .The fast riders are at the front .








IT GET`S NO BETTER UP FRONT WE HAD TWO OTHER ROSSI`S STUCK UP MY BUTT TRYING TO GIVE ME A SHOVE ( A CBRR 1000 AND`A RED R1)JUST AFTER 1 GUY HAD COME OFF :doh: THEN PAST ME NO PROB WITH THAT GUY`S BUT WAT`S WITH THE RACE RIDING KNEE`S OUT AND ALL THE DRAMA :slap: I DID SAY THIS COROLOOP RIDE WAS GOIN TO TAKE IT EASY ENDED UP I WAS TO CROOK AND TIRED TO GO PAST CORO SO HEADED BACK WITH A FEW OTHER`S :chase:
ONLY TO HAVE SOME CLOWN IN A CAR COME OVER TO MY SIDE OF THE ROAD FUCK NEAR GOT ME TOO:yes: TOOK HIS DRIVE`S MIRROR OFF WITH MY ELBOW:doh:
ALL IN ALL LAST I HEARD 3 RIDER`S CAME OFF AND ME FUCKIN CLOSE:angry:

[TLDV8]

Yoshi , the R1 and CBR past you becouse you were slow :doobey: They are not Rossi and they are not trying to be Rossi.This is the way they ride.:rockon: There are slow and fast riders .The fast riders are at the front .

Of course being so called fast does not go hand in hand with being a good rider,there will always be the bunnies who think they have something to prove,unfortunately quite often what they prove it not what they expected. :doh:



IT GET`S NO BETTER UP FRONT WE HAD TWO OTHER ROSSI`S STUCK UP MY BUTT TRYING TO GIVE ME A SHOVE ( A CBRR 1000 AND`A RED R1)JUST AFTER 1 GUY HAD COME OFF :doh:

[TONO]

in all fairness.. It was said in the thread and at the initial meet. It was well organised, just one of those days.

As a newbie to KB rides and Newbie back riding after a 30 year absence I have found the rides very enjoyable and the people bloody friendly.
I will only say that in my opinion some riders appear to go to fast for their experience and ability. Young guys relatively new to riding/bikes believing they can go as fast as those more experienced riders.
I think maybe a bit more talking and control by the organisers of these events would go a long way to helping this wee problem.
The Coro loop is a terrific asset for bikers but it is also bloody dangerous to the uninitiated and the newbie.
I grew up on these roads, my family has lived on the peninsular since 1864 and still lives there, I have seen a lot of people killed and injured over the years, several biker friends killed years ago on the coast rode.

On my 1st ride with KBs several weeks ago I spoke to a young guy from Tauranga and warned him not to try and keep up with the "Big boys" as the roads are very dangerous if you do not know them........lets face it, they are bloody dangerous even if you do, and if you go fast it just compounds.
The point is I shouldn't have had to tell him, I am a newbie! the organiser should have spoken to all of the new persons and warned them of the type of road they would be riding on and what to watch for, etiquette etc.

Or is this getting to official and sounding like an OSH site!!! heaven forbid.

Ok finished with the nana ravings, have a good night and enjoy the photo's.

TC

[justsomeguy]

Or is this getting to official and sounding like an OSH site!!! heaven forbid.

TC

No it's not - very well said. I guess you now realise why "young and foolish" has become a cliche.......

[skidMark]

yeah - the fast guys could go first, and paint warnings on the road - gravel, tight corner, potholes - that sort of thing. then the medium guys could come through, complain about the corners and gravel and potholes that were missed by the fast guys, then the slow guys could come through, with a van and trailer bringing up the rear. sounds like a fan fucking tastic idea.

sad to here about this... but marty THATS FUKING FUNNY

[Zed]

Or is this getting to official and sounding like an OSH site!!! heaven forbid.Not really, what you say is quite sound advice, but we aren't going to make a hard and fast rule on KB that all ride organisers adhere to certain rules either, you can't enforce that sort of stuff. Part of the beauty of KB rides is the liberty we all have to do our own thing if we want Notwithstanding, irresponsible riding IS frowned upon!

As someone who has organised a number of KB rides during my time here, I assess on the day who turns up and usually mention the route, some basics about stopping at major intersections, assign a tail-end charlie, and tell everyone to have a good safe time. There have been certain rides where I have told everyone to ride at their own pace and for NO ONE to have any bins! This procedure has generally been successful.

[TLDV8]

No it's not - very well said. I guess you now realise why "young and foolish" has become a cliche.......

I don't think age can be applied in general,there are plenty of younger riders that i have seen that show skills ( forethought and common courtesy ) well beyond the time they have been in the saddle,riding is not just about the physical,it can also be about knowing whats going on around you and applying that to the conditions..as in group verses solo etc .(imho)..I know people who have been riding for decades but are the most inconsiderate SOB's you could meet regarding common sense,they are oblivious to those around them and become a menace.

[Bulldog]

Who cares how fast or skillfull a rider you are...you're just being impatient and dangerous to undertake another biker.

Put your own life in danger and overtake on the other side of the road before you put someone else's at risk.

I'd crack you round the chops if you carve me up like that. :angry: Just plain arrogant.

[FROSTY]

Not to shit stir here but could I suggest that rather than a public rant about this it would be better to send the member concerned a PM.
My point being nobodys perfect -Even "the Doctor" makes mistakes

[mv.senna]

Not to shit stir here but could I suggest that rather than a public rant about this it would be better to send the member concerned a PM.
My point being nobodys perfect -Even "the Doctor" makes mistakes

A little credit would be good here Frosty....I did PM this member, outline the purpose of the thread and impact his actions had on me......and he hasn't bothered to respond.

As i stated initially: THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK, if it was, I woulda mentioned the guy's name!!!! The purpose of this thread is to DRAW ATTENTION TO DANGEROUS BEHAVIOURS taking place, and make people take responsibility for, and think about the impact of their thoughtless actions on others!

i don't have issues with fast riders. i have issues with dangerous and thoughtless manouevers - which clearly have potentially fatal/severe consequences ......get my point?

and yes Bulldog, he woulda got a handbag round the chops if i'd caught up with him....

[Big Dave]

Not to shit stir here but could I suggest that rather than a public rant about this it would be better to send the member concerned a PM.
My point being nobodys perfect -Even "the Doctor" makes mistakes

Fair enough generally, Frosty, ever the dispenser of the milk of human kindness, but one chance mate. It's a c*** act.

[justsomeguy]

I don't think age can be applied in general,there are plenty of younger riders that i have seen that show skills ( forethought and common courtesy ) well beyond the time they have been in the saddle,riding is not just about the physical,it can also be about knowing whats going on around you and applying that to the conditions..as in group verses solo etc .(imho)..I know people who have been riding for decades but are the most inconsiderate SOB's you could meet regarding common sense,they are oblivious to those around them and become a menace.

How long since you were a teenager??

Sure there are a few but I still maintain the general flock of young men (on sports bikes) are prone to a lot of naughty riding.

[The_Dover]

Yeah like 114 in a 50 zone? :bleh:

[justsomeguy]

Yeah like 114 in a 50 zone? :bleh:

Or 270 in a 100 zone :bleh:

Oh gawd what's that ----- aaaahhhhh sunstrike:Oops:

[The_Dover]

But at least I didn't blow a pig to keep me licence. ;)

"Ooh, What a lovely tea party!"

[ManDownUnder]

Unless it's someone else. Then I'm just talking shit again.

C'mon Jimmy we both know the odds of that would be *cough* pretty *cough* slim.. :niceone:

[White trash]

C'mon Jimmy we both know the odds of that would be *cough* pretty *cough* slim.. :niceone:

And funnily enough, this time I wasn't as one of the riders in question stepped straight up to offer his views.

Not often I'm wrong but I'm right this time.

[BLACKYOSHI1000]

Yoshi , the R1 and CBR past you becouse you were slow :doobey: They are not Rossi and they are not trying to be Rossi.This is the way they ride.:rockon: There are slow and fast riders .The fast riders are at the front .
NOT IN FRONT OF THE RIDE ORGANISER JUST AFTER TELLIN EVERYONE TO SLOW DOWN AND TAKE IT EASY AS SOME ONE HAD JUST COME OFF THIS WAS A EASY PACE RIDE :bash:
SO WHY TURN UP RIDEIN LIKE SLOW ROSSI`S

BEFORE WE LEFT EVERYONE WAS TOLD IM LEADIN
JUZZA AT THE BACK WILL BE TAKIN IN EASY AS WE HAD NEW RIDER`S IN THE GROUP AND I HAVE I HAD FUCKIN BAD HANGE OVER
WE WILL STOP OFTEN SO NO ONE WILL GET LOST !!!!
THESE ARE THIS RIDES RULE`S YOU HAVE NO REASON OR EXCUSE NOT TO A BIDE BY THEN IN SAFTEY OF THE OTHER RIDER`S ( OR WERE YOU JUST WANTIN TO PASS ME )
IF YOU HAD STOPPED AT THE NEXT STOP I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU TO FUCK OFF !!! ANYWAY`S

THERES A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING AND IM HAPPY TO PULL OVER AND LET PEOPLE GO AHEAD BUT THIS WASNT THE PLACE

[cowpoos]

Not often I'm wrong but I'm right this time.

thats a classic....lmao

[pyrocam]

Or 270 in a 100 zone :bleh:

Oh gawd what's that ----- aaaahhhhh sunstrike:Oops:

oooooh owch.


I decided that as rule of thumb I dont go on posted rides, I much prefer the idea of 2-4 riders of similar skill for whatever it is you plan on doing, organise via PM. its not uncommon on here from what I hear. keeps numbers down and keeps too much skill/ego variation between riders down.

[SixPackBack]

:corn: :corn: :corn: :corn:

[TwoSeven]

the next second - WITH NO PRIOR WARNING!!! - the "senior" member of KB underpasses me, in a racetrack manouver to pull a less than impressive rossi-like attempt at the 65km corner where the SH2 joins back onto SH1 on the sthside of the bombays.... I'm going WTF????


I'm surprised there are still people stupid enough to try the suicide move on another bike on a public road. I thought onl novice riders try that stuff.

Its one of those few silly moves that makes me mad enough to consider giving the tards that doi it a good kicking. Not that I would, just annoys the fek out of me. I really dont like having my health put in danger by a fookwit on a bike.

Its called the suicide move because the rider (person passing) making the move needs to ride thu the objects blind spot into their blindside (the side they least expect someone to be). Most riders when they hear an approaching vehicle will look in their right mirror first, and/or pull over to the left to make room.

[White trash]

Unless your bike's as loud as mine, then you hear fuck all from any other tards.

[onearmedbandit]

My point being nobodys perfect -Even "the Doctor" makes mistakes


No he doesn't, they are all planned to give the others a fighting chance and to keep the fans on the edge of their seats. It's in his contract.

[justsomeguy]

NOT IN FRONT OF THE RIDE ORGANISER JUST AFTER TELLIN EVERYONE TO SLOW DOWN AND TAKE IT EASY AS SOME ONE HAD JUST COME OFF THIS WAS A EASY PACE RIDE :bash:
SO WHY TURN UP RIDEIN LIKE SLOW ROSSI`S

BEFORE WE LEFT EVERYONE WAS TOLD IM LEADIN
JUZZA AT THE BACK WILL BE TAKIN IN EASY AS WE HAD NEW RIDER`S IN THE GROUP AND I HAVE I HAD FUCKIN BAD HANGE OVER
WE WILL STOP OFTEN SO NO ONE WILL GET LOST !!!!
THESE ARE THIS RIDES RULE`S YOU HAVE NO REASON OR EXCUSE NOT TO A BIDE BY THEN IN SAFTEY OF THE OTHER RIDER`S ( OR WERE YOU JUST WANTIN TO PASS ME )
IF YOU HAD STOPPED AT THE NEXT STOP I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU TO FUCK OFF !!! ANYWAY`S

THERES A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING AND IM HAPPY TO PULL OVER AND LET PEOPLE GO AHEAD BUT THIS WASNT THE PLACE

YOSHI's right - he has his rules which are sensible. Anyone who has a problem with them shouldn't join his ride.

If you guys want fast rides private message Death, WT, LB, etc and ask them to show you how it's done, be prepared to redline your thous in 6th gear trying to keep up. Oh yeah and please include me in your will:blip:

[FROSTY]

for the record --I was working on sunday.

[White trash]

for the record --I was working on sunday.

And I was enjoying a great days motorcycle racing. Where you're allowed to pass wherever you like.

[Big Dave]

And I was enjoying a great days motorcycle racing. Where you're allowed to pass wherever you like.

The only thing you passed all weekend was wind.:bleh:

Get a bike you girl - one with fur would suit you.

[Big Dave]

Take note everyone - frosty works for records.
Paint my house for 'Hot August Night' and a few Lou Reed singles?

[mv.senna]

And I was enjoying a great days motorcycle racing. Where you're allowed to pass wherever you like.

...because it's a RACETRACK, NOT A PUBLIC ROAD, and other riders are prepared for and expect underpassing manouevers, and whatever other racing tactics are required to get one place ahead/get the best line into and through a corner.....right? :2thumbsup

[enigma51]

BUT WAT`S WITH THE RACE RIDING KNEE`S OUT AND ALL THE DRAMA

Well I only ride with knee out as I feel more in control/comfartable I know its all in the mind but thats just me. Thats what make me feel in "control" (You never the boss of the bike its always your boss)




PS Im not ranting just pointing out that some of us dont ride "racing" style because it looks "cool" (Bit of tui add) its how we feel comfartable on the bike.

[mv.senna]

Well I only ride with knee out as I feel more in control/comfartable I know its all in the mind but thats just me. Thats what make me feel in "control" (You never the boss of the bike its always your boss)




PS Im not ranting just pointing out that some of us dont ride "racing" style because it looks "cool" (Bit of tui add) its how we feel comfartable on the bike.


...and here's me thinking you do the "knee-out" thing because your massive endowment keeps getting in the way :rofl:

[Mental Trousers]

NOT IN FRONT OF THE RIDE ORGANISER JUST AFTER TELLIN EVERYONE TO SLOW DOWN AND TAKE IT EASY AS SOME ONE HAD JUST COME OFF THIS WAS A EASY PACE RIDE :bash:
SO WHY TURN UP RIDEIN LIKE SLOW ROSSI`S

BEFORE WE LEFT EVERYONE WAS TOLD IM LEADIN
JUZZA AT THE BACK WILL BE TAKIN IN EASY AS WE HAD NEW RIDER`S IN THE GROUP AND I HAVE I HAD FUCKIN BAD HANGE OVER
WE WILL STOP OFTEN SO NO ONE WILL GET LOST !!!!
THESE ARE THIS RIDES RULE`S YOU HAVE NO REASON OR EXCUSE NOT TO A BIDE BY THEN IN SAFTEY OF THE OTHER RIDER`S ( OR WERE YOU JUST WANTIN TO PASS ME )
IF YOU HAD STOPPED AT THE NEXT STOP I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU TO FUCK OFF !!! ANYWAY`S

THERES A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING AND IM HAPPY TO PULL OVER AND LET PEOPLE GO AHEAD BUT THIS WASNT THE PLACE


Ah, I was wondering if there was a tail end guy. I joined at Kopu and didn't realize that there was one, but he was the guy with the flat who turned back!! I thought the old guy on the blue Suzuki was tail ender - until he passed me.

I read easy paced ride as most will be following the leader but if you pass him then you're on your own and good luck to ya.

[Mental Trousers]

Well I only ride with knee out as I feel more in control/comfartable I know its all in the mind but thats just me.

Indeed. Even at 50kph you'll find me moving side to side and letting my inside knee hang out. It just feels wrong to sit still. Other people don't move around at all no matter how fast/hard they're going. I dunno how they do it, but I can't.

[Waylander]

Well I only ride with knee out as I feel more in control/comfartable I know its all in the mind but thats just me. Thats what make me feel in "control" (You never the boss of the bike its always your boss)

PS Im not ranting just pointing out that some of us dont ride "racing" style because it looks "cool" (Bit of tui add) its how we feel comfartable on the bike.
Nothing wrong with feeling more in control of your bike, but does the person you are passing really close to/undertaking/some other race move know that you are in control? Does he/she/it feel comfortable with what you are doing just a few feet away?

[White trash]

Does he/she/it feel comfortable with what you are doing just a few feet away?

Can't say I'd ever feel totaly comfortable with anything you do a couple of feet away.....

[Waylander]

Can't say I'd ever feel totaly comfortable with anything you do a couple of feet away.....
Don't know what you're worried about. Never in my life will I be fast enough (read crazy) to keep up with you, even more so when you're wearing your lipstick.

[TONO]

[QUOTE=MTrousers]Ah, I was wondering if there was a tail end guy. I joined at Kopu and didn't realize that there was one, but he was the guy with the flat who turned back!! I thought the old guy on the blue Suzuki was tail ender - until he passed me.

Hey go easy on the "OLD" bit......I just so happen to feel young!:rockon:

[bugjuice]

looks like I'll be doing lots of rides on me own then!
If you're in the way, you will be passed. But it will be done safely, else it won't happen. period. My knee goes out, cos that's how I feel safe and ride. I ride at my pace. If it's faster than someone else, get over it. If it's slower than someone else, then bully for you. Now, what's wrong with that logic? got a problem with that, then just tell me, and we'll work it out. End of the day, people have different skills and abilities. To mix them up can create friction cos there's the good ol' SCS. So just pick more carefully who you go on rides with.

[enigma51]

...and here's me thinking you do the "knee-out" thing because your massive endowment keeps getting in the way :rofl:


Well dont go give my secret away!:blip:

[ManDownUnder]

...and here's me thinking you do the "knee-out" thing because your massive endowment keeps getting in the way :rofl:

pfft... what I hate is the fact I have to ride everywhere with my legs spread... it can get breezy..!

[enigma51]

pfft... what I hate is the fact I have to ride everywhere with my legs spread... it can get breezy..!
Tell me about it!

[DEATH_INC.]

Just remember your 'fast and dangerous' is someone elses 'slow and safe' :yes:

[Big Dave]

Just remember your 'fast and dangerous' is someone elses 'slow and safe' :yes:


On the road I prefer 'Trustworthy and predictable'.
Speed or stunts don't come into it.

[Damon]

Personally I absolutely love that corner and I can happily sit behind traffic until I come up to it and then it's all on for that one corner, if some prick (not calling you a prick, just how I feel at the time) is in the way when they should be in the left lane then I get pretty pissed off,

I'm with TLDV8 when it comes to using lanes, the little signs on the side of the road say keep left unless passing, if your not passing, which includes riding/driving next to people, get out of the way for people who want to pass, not a dig at you but one of my pet hates and my main cause of road rage.

[mv.senna]

Personally I absolutely love that corner and I can happily sit behind traffic until I come up to it and then it's all on for that one corner, if some prick (not calling you a prick, just how I feel at the time) is in the way when they should be in the left lane then I get pretty pissed off,

I'm with TLDV8 when it comes to using lanes, the little signs on the side of the road say keep left unless passing, if your not passing, which includes riding/driving next to people, get out of the way for people who want to pass, not a dig at you but one of my pet hates and my main cause of road rage.

lovie, i agree - therefore, I WAS in the left lane, and i was passed at high speed on my left...i.e undertaken. that was what i've been bitching about....

[mv.senna]

Just remember your 'fast and dangerous' is someone elses 'slow and safe' :yes:

Point taken Death, but undertaking someone on a main highway at warp speed? I don't remember any of "the boys" ever pulling a stunt like that on the road rides....and they were all far more skilled and experienced than the rider in question.

[Mental Trousers]

Ah, I was wondering if there was a tail end guy. I joined at Kopu and didn't realize that there was one, but he was the guy with the flat who turned back!! I thought the old guy on the blue Suzuki was tail ender - until he passed me.

Hey go easy on the "OLD" bit......I just so happen to feel young!:rockon:

I meant the other old guy!! He was either on a Bandit or an SV. Besides, you're older than me and I feel kinda ancient at times lol

[Sniper]

Pity about the manouver and the fact it upset you mate. I can see where you are coming from, but I can also understand the reasons for the senior member. I have done the same and if you two were taking up two lanes I would have proberbly gone on the outside lane and not inside.

I would like to hear both reasons, but if he was overtaken by you guys while he was doing under the limit and then he passed you riding to his limits, good on him.

[Deano]

Can't say I'd ever feel totaly comfortable with anything you do a couple of feet away.....

Try a couple of inches.........but anyway, I trust you and it was all good :blip:

[Brett]

I would not be happy with someone who cut me on the inside, provided i wasn;t using both lanes or on a racetrack. They would probably get more than a mouthfull at the next stop. Bloody arrogant taking someone elses safety in their own hands.
Valentino Rossi could be the one pulling the manouever, and the guy he is overtaking could be a newbie who looses his line or whatever, and they both go spilling.
I am happy to ride with guys who wheelie, stoppie, speed etc, but there has to be a time and place, and uundertaking on the road just isn't cool.
Ghost Rider did eventually die did he not??

[bugjuice]

GR lane split at 250ks.. not quite the same thing here..

Most of the people who over/undertake, it's mostly not just an impulse thing. So much calculation goes into it, that if things add up, it's often not done. If you ride unpredictably, then people are going to take any chance they can to get round you, hopefully in a safe manor. If you ride predictably, then you will be overtaken with care.. So it's easy, just stick to your line and don't jerk off on the road, and everyone is happy.. Like my gf keeps telling me, it'll be over before you know it, and everyone just gets on with what they're doing

[Damon]

lovie, i agree - therefore, I WAS in the left lane, and i was passed at high speed on my left...i.e undertaken. that was what i've been bitching about....

Left lane?! well then i agree, bitch away cause thats just stupid

[loosebruce]

I don't remember any of "the boys" ever pulling a stunt like that on the road rides....and they were all far more skilled and experienced than the rider in question.

Who are these boys, i wouldn't mind meeting em if what you say is ture.

The young (what is it with Rossi) rossi that pulled the move i know rather well, and i dont think that he would've pulled the move without considering other peoples saftey first, in fact i know he would'nt of, he saw a gap and used it, and your defintion of "warp" speed is prolly a sedate cruising for speed for some. and like someone else pointed out, the corner in question is a nice corner, and after being bored to death with SH2 for so long i would've gone for it too, you're obviously annoyed at it and i guess you have the right to be.
I think the biggest problem nowadays is that there is such a diverse range of riders on group rides now, with noobs fresh on the bike and experianced old riders to the nicky hayden (sick of rossi) wanabes, really with so many rides being organized they need to be stated as to weather they would suit the more faster, experianced rider or the new to bikes, i had it many times when i have organized a ride and said fast riders only, but people dont seem to get it and the slower like turn up, normally i open my rides up to anyone, but if i want to keep it to a faster group i end up PMing other riders. (er not that i ride a hell of lot these days).

[flash]

so who is the "senior" member :wait:

[Firefight]

I think the biggest problem nowadays is that there is such a diverse range of riders on group rides now, with noobs fresh on the bike and experianced old riders to the nicky hayden (sick of rossi) wanabes, really with so many rides being organized they need to be stated as to weather they would suit the more faster,


Good point Bruce, this was one of the reasons that Fight Club was formed.

I also know the two riders that are being talked about, and trust them, I know they are both very skilled riders, who I am more than happy to ride with .

having said that I guess I can understand what MV is saying, and understand how she feels about it.

Also form the point of view of the yossi guy, if you are running a ride you do feel responsible, I can relate to that, and yes it can be a pisser when things get out of hand.


I guess the most we can hope for is that some lessons have been learnt.





F/F

[Unit]

Well I havent been part of KB long, but have met some awesome people, and the experienced riders care about us all. We've been on some great rides now thanks to KB with nothing but little niggle breakdown incidences. I like to let people know Im a bit of a nanna, especially as Im on a reasonably serious bike, making sure they dont assume Im an out there rider just because of what I ride. Why ride a big serious bike then some might ask? Well, who ever said it had to be ridden to its full potential, I enjoy my level of riding, I enjoy what I ride, and I really enjoy those who I now get to ride with. With our group we usually let us less experienced, slower riders get a head start. The experienced riders catch up and pass, but always respectfully, cause they already know my level of riding. Its all a matter of getting to know each other and look out for one another. And with the less experienced riders going on ahead, if we get ourselves into trouble, we know seasoned riders are going to be right there to help us out. It works well:yes:

[mv.senna]

Who are these boys, i wouldn't mind meeting em if what you say is ture.

The young (what is it with Rossi) rossi that pulled the move i know rather well, and i dont think that he would've pulled the move without considering other peoples saftey first, in fact i know he would'nt of, he saw a gap and used it, and your defintion of "warp" speed is prolly a sedate cruising for speed for some. and like someone else pointed out, the corner in question is a nice corner, and after being bored to death with SH2 for so long i would've gone for it too, you're obviously annoyed at it and i guess you have the right to be.
I think the biggest problem nowadays is that there is such a diverse range of riders on group rides now, with noobs fresh on the bike and experianced old riders to the nicky hayden (sick of rossi) wanabes, really with so many rides being organized they need to be stated as to weather they would suit the more faster, experianced rider or the new to bikes, i had it many times when i have organized a ride and said fast riders only, but people dont seem to get it and the slower like turn up, normally i open my rides up to anyone, but if i want to keep it to a faster group i end up PMing other riders. (er not that i ride a hell of lot these days).

Hi LB. thanks for your comments :2thumbsup

the guy in question has been man enough to admit that it wasn't the brightest move, and though he'd calculated it, he wouldn't repeat it.

i have only heard people speak highly of him, and my opinion is unchanged. i've gone to lengths to stress this is not personal. the point of this thread is to highlight that some riders are pulling moves on the road that are inappropriate, and not considering the consequences - or potential consequences. blame it on my ambo history, but I've seen too many times the result of an inch the wrong way to the left/right or a second too fast/slow.

I have no issue with speed, I love seeing wheelies and stoppies - and the "boys" i refer to used to do that shit around me on a regular basis. no issue - except when i was tapped out on the "H" and they made it look like i was standing still (GRR - lol)

But i'm hard pressed to be convinced that carving someone up on the inside is EVER going to be a smart/safe move on the road - no matter how well you know the people you're riding with.

i'm not trying to cause trouble here, just maybe cause people to think a bit more about their actions....i'm dissapointed at the defensive nature of some of the posts, but sadly, not surprised.

once again, thanks for your thoughts. :2thumbsup

[Two Smoker]

Well after reading this thread...

- Ive ridden with the red/white R1 and titanium CBR1000RR and i can tell you i rate them highly as very capible and safe riders on the road.

- Onus is on the passer not the passed

- There maybe crashes on rides, but this cannot be blamed on the organiser. People are responsible for their own actions.

- I know who "the boys" the MV-senna used to ride with, and i can tell you right now they are some of the fastest riders on the road and track in New Zealand...

In the end, ride your own ride, leave the stupid passing to the track... And if you have ridden with me lately, you will see that i have no worries with waiting behind cars etc, until its safe to pass... and i dont care that people leave me behind because of that... If you want to prove how fast you are, go to the track... Where some loser on a 400 or 125GP bike can really embarrase you...

[scooterboynz]

t.


I have no issue with speed, I love seeing wheelies and stoppies - and the "boys" i refer to used to do that shit around me on a regular basis. no issue - except when i was tapped out on the "H" and they made it look like i was standing still (GRR - lol)



did you go to trev's farewell party?

[mv.senna]

No lovie I didn't. Relationship break up earlier in the year means that sadly i can't mix with that group any more. I do still speak to them individually though - waterboy included. what about yourself? did you go? they showed the most recent dvd I believe. apparently it's the best of the lot.

[Lou Girardin]

- Onus is on the passer not the passed

.

It may be on a track, but definitely not so on the road.
Check your trusty road code.

[bugjuice]

how the hell can you ensure that you're passed safely?
As long as you are 'predictable' on the road, what more can you do?

[Waylander]

Another one of those backwards laws?
Something along the lines of that whole 'if someone crashes next to you and they say they were racing you, thier crash becomes your fault?'

[mv.senna]

i read that to mean, the onus is on the passer - (as in the one doing the passing) not the passed - (as in the one being passed.) which makes sense really: the one doing the passing is the one responsible. if you get rear-ended in your car, generally the person responsible (i.e in the crap) is the one who rear-ended you.

[bugjuice]

what MR posted? then yes.
If you are overtaking, then you are responsible for making sure it's carried out in a safe manor. If you are being overtaken, you just ride like you have been before the maneuver started, and everyone is happy..

[Lou Girardin]

For God's sake, if you're overtaking you must have 100 metres vis throughout the manouevre and carry it out safely. Then there are the various rules about where you may do so.
You are not responsible if some moron changes lanes while you are passing, but commonsense says you should be prepared for this.
Why do so many people try to rewrite the rules? Or is it because they haven't read a road code since they did their driving test?

[bugjuice]

so what 'responsibilities' aside from reasonable driving/riding does the overtaken have then?

[boomer]

so what 'responsibilities' aside from reasonable driving/riding does the overtaken have then?

Making sure they've done the dishes before they left home. :yes:

[ManDownUnder]

Making sure they've done the dishes before they left home. :yes:

I'm for the high jump then... bugger...

[Lou Girardin]

so what 'responsibilities' aside from reasonable driving/riding does the overtaken have then?

Not accelerating, (the national sport) and not pulling out is a good start.

[bugjuice]

that wouldn't be driving/riding in a reasonable, responsible and predictable manor, which is what I said you should do. If you then start racing or riding like a prick cos someone is about to overtake, then that's a different matter.

[Fart]

I recall my first ride with KB when I first joined about 6 months or so back. On that ride, I recall 8 riders had an accident including an R1. What more can I say. And we all talk about how bad Asian drivers are in NZ... What a laugh ...LOL :wait: :killingme

[Keystone19]

You cant talk buggie. I should rename you "The Undertaker"

:rofl:

Yep, I think a new username could be the order of the day...

[NC]

Did you talk to the person before you posted this thread?
Yes that senior member undertook you, there might be two sides to the story.

I'm sick of the bitching! Say it to his face.

[NC]

Yeah i think she said that she PM'ed them but got no reply. One of them has since replied in this thread.

But yeah... sick of bitching am I .. full stop.

did ya get that new tat?
Narh, had a accident at work, no funds. Still waiting for ACC.

No I meant to his "face" :)

[ManDownUnder]

:rofl:

Yep, I think a new username could be the order of the day...

"crash" and "crashe" are both taken... and both of their avatars are "hands off"

[NC]

Oh right.. no i dont think to his face. Probably would have saved this whole thread, but i think a point is trying to be made rather than single out somebody.
What happened at work? Bloody ACC slow payers.
Doing a late night shop fit-out and I was working with a tard (grr) had to lift a mega heavy 7m 36mm maranti plywood (each sheet weighs 60kgs) cabnit on top of another one and fix it to the wall. We lifted it, the tard didn't wanna lift as much as he could, long story short. 5 buldging discs, crushed nerves in my neck. And numbness in my left hand and lower arm and I'm in constant pain.

[bugjuice]

You cant talk buggie. I should rename you "The Undertaker"
ride the white line slowly, then you will be ;)
could have got a car under that anyway. Not my fault you're slow

but all jest aside, if there was even a hint of any danger/trouble, then I wouldn't have even given it a millisecond more thought

[mv.senna]

Did you talk to the person before you posted this thread?
Yes that senior member undertook you, there might be two sides to the story.

I'm sick of the bitching! Say it to his face.


READ ALL OF THE THREAD before you start making snap judgements, and statements like the ones you've made above - as a result of failing to read all of the posts.....I've stated twice that I've pm'd him prior to starting the thread, and that this matter has been discussed privately. i've also stated the outcome of the discussion. The guy turned off, before i could catch up to him to say it to his "face" but trust me, I would've - right SM??!! BTW: the guy in question HAS NOT replied on this thread - and nor do i expect him to. The complaint about the guys on the R1 and CBR are a whole separate issue. again - read the thread!

if this was just bitching or a vendetta, i would've mentioned the guys name - which i did not. this is about people making moves on the road that have a huge potential to turn bad. my intent is to make people THINK about their road manouevers.

what's YOUR intent????

[Sniper]

mv.senna, you are being quite hostile about this aren't you?

[mv.senna]

mv.senna, you are being quite hostile about this aren't you?

hostile/disapointed....yeah, i get my back up when i can't fathom how people can be complacent about dangerous actions. but hey, maybe some people will only ever care if it's themselves or someone they know/love.

i dont have a hidden agenda. i actually care about motorcyclists safety and seeing people come home in one piece from a ride. so shoot me sniper.


and yes, good idea SM - lock the damn thread off. the point i was trying to make has passed most people by anyway...sigh. (and on the inside too)

[erik]

Doing a late night shop fit-out and I was working with a tard (grr) had to lift a mega heavy 7m 36mm maranti plywood (each sheet weighs 60kgs) cabnit on top of another one and fix it to the wall. We lifted it, the tard didn't wanna lift as much as he could, long story short. 5 buldging discs, crushed nerves in my neck. And numbness in my left hand and lower arm and I'm in constant pain.
Jeeze, that doesn't sound good.
Get well soon!

[loosebruce]

the guy in question has been man enough to admit that it wasn't the brightest move,


He's not much of a man in person MV, but he passes just, he knows he done wrong maybe riding with clowns like me for too long and that kinda shit all good, the odd bashing fairings and the likes every now and then don't worry me too much.

You're reasoning is more than understandable and as you saod when you're in a group of riders that you know it's kinda okay casue there's trust there, when on a big group ride and there's a heap of peeps you aint never ridden with before, yeah for sure can get a bit hairy, i know the group you used to kick it with as well, been meaning to head out with them one day, bit hard when the motor is toast in my thou :doh: and if i tried kicking it with them on the TL well my funeral.

[The_Dover]

maybe riding with clowns like me for too long

Yeah, one ride with Bruce and look what happened to me....


Cunt.

[loosebruce]

Yeah, one ride with Bruce and look what happened to me....


Cunt.

You're welcome :stupid:

[Fart]

Yeah, one ride with Bruce and look what happened to me....


Cunt.


You turned in to a virgina? :lol:

I have rode with Loosebruce and couple of times. Good man to ride with. Safe as sleeping on a mattress with virgin nympho twins.:wait:

[mv.senna]

You turned in to a virgina? :lol:

I have rode with Loosebruce and couple of times. Good man to ride with. Safe as sleeping on a mattress with virgin nympho twins.:wait:

:rofl: Dover's a virgin? when did that happen? has anyone notified the guiness world records team?

[Kornholio]

:rofl: Dover's a virgin? when did that happen? has anyone notified the guiness world records team?

I think Yoshi's toothbrush would have something to say about that eh Ben :banana:

[NC]

READ ALL OF THE THREAD before you start making snap judgements, and statements like the ones you've made above - as a result of failing to read all of the posts.....I've stated twice that I've pm'd him prior to starting the thread, and that this matter has been discussed privately. i've also stated the outcome of the discussion. The guy turned off, before i could catch up to him to say it to his "face" but trust me, I would've - right SM??!! BTW: the guy in question HAS NOT replied on this thread - and nor do i expect him to. The complaint about the guys on the R1 and CBR are a whole separate issue. again - read the thread!

if this was just bitching or a vendetta, i would've mentioned the guys name - which i did not. this is about people making moves on the road that have a huge potential to turn bad. my intent is to make people THINK about their road manouevers.

what's YOUR intent????
I'd talk to him about it TO HIS FACE before I spouted it all over the net.

Nuff said.

[inlinefour]

Did you talk to the person before you posted this thread?
Yes that senior member undertook you, there might be two sides to the story.

I'm sick of the bitching! Say it to his face.

WHAT IS IT??????? Is it the heat, the rain, the fact that Xmas is coming and your not getting what you really wanted this year, or is it that they have a better bike? Like what sensei stated earlier, have different paced groups. Yea if need be listen and learn from others, hell only an ignorant person could say they know it all. I need a beer, DB Draught or Haagen anyone?:blink:

[Deano]

READ ALL OF THE THREAD before you start making snap judgements,

Who the hell has time to read all the shite on this forum, and it's much more fun to make rash, uncalculated judgements. :2thumbsup

[Teflon]

Of course being so called fast does not go hand in hand with being a good rider,there will always be the bunnies who think they have something to prove,unfortunately quite often what they prove it not what they expected. :doh:

Is that you on the yellow TL?

[TLDV8]

Is that you on the yellow TL?

I am sure you know it is since you were on the same ride and i highlighted this picture twice from the thread you got it from... It would have been better if you had posted this one also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/Coro1.jpg

[White trash]

IT GET`S NO BETTER UP FRONT WE HAD TWO OTHER ROSSI`S STUCK UP MY BUTT TRYING TO GIVE ME A SHOVE ( A CBRR 1000 AND`A RED R1)JUST AFTER 1 GUY HAD COME OFF :doh: THEN PAST ME NO PROB WITH THAT GUY`S BUT WAT`S WITH THE RACE RIDING KNEE`S OUT AND ALL THE DRAMA

What sort of poofta lets a HonDUH and a Yamashit past his Gixxer 1K anyway?

[boomer]

I am sure you know it is since you were on the same ride and i highlighted this picture twice from the thread you got it from... It would have been better if you had posted this one also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/Coro1.jpg


Shocking :killingme

[Goblin]

I am sure you know it is since you were on the same ride and i highlighted this picture twice from the thread you got it from... It would have been better if you had posted this one also.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/manurewa/Coro1.jpg
JEEEZUS!! You wanna watch out posting pics like that...you'll start a riot! Cutting the corner...shame on you:bash: :killingme

[Waylander]

JEEEZUS!! You wanna watch out posting pics like that...you'll start a riot! Cutting the corner...shame on you:bash: :killingme
Cutting a corner with a car coming head on. Atleast you had a clear road Goblin.

[Goblin]

Cutting a corner with a car coming head on. Atleast you had a clear road Goblin.

So arent you gonna tear strips off him?? or do you only give girls shit for cuttin corners?

[Waylander]

Because he knows that was a mistake.

[Kornholio]

JEEEZUS!! You wanna watch out posting pics like that...you'll start a riot! Cutting the corner...shame on you:bash: :killingme

Na shes right the car is actually pulling off the road to give him room...that was perfectly safe.............................................. :rofl: :clap:

[Korea]

Cutting a corner with a car coming head on. Atleast you had a clear road Goblin.
SHOCKER! :shit:

[TLDV8]

Cutting a corner with a car coming head on. Atleast you had a clear road Goblin.

This Waylander is why i gave up on KB rides after only 3,although they were enjoyable there is far to much politic's for me.........I have read near all the threads lately and this site has changed even in the short time i have been here,what happens after near every group ride,a bunch of people come out of the woodwork looking to start something..quite often they were not even there as in the other thread.Not that it really matters,but for you and your cronies i will try and put things into some kind of perspective......What i did was clip the first part of that sweeper,the speed was lower than the posted limit so it was easy to square the corner off,but it was still a mistake on my part.The difference being i have no problem being accountable.

[Waylander]

I have cronies? COOL!!!!
Crossing the centre line is just one of my pet peeves. You do it often and will continue to do it? Fine, I don't have to ride with you.

[mv.senna]

:rofl: speed medic!!!!! :rofl:

Edit: can't find a "miaow" icon, but i'm sure you get my drift....

[Waylander]

Ha ha, thats a disease.... goodbye.:bye: Easy to understand coming from Yank land with no corners.:nya: Yanks on cruisers that whine whinge and lecture is one of my pet peeves.:oi-grr:
Fucken brilliant, I cut corners heaps so dont come on any rides with me either.:woohoo:

And have I been on any rides you've been on? No. Will I be on one orginized by some nuetral third party? Probably but bet your ass I'll be nowhere near you. Ofcourse you have to get your liscence back first. See how long you can keep it this time.

[_Gina_]

:rofl: speed medic!!!!! :rofl:
Nah he has a new name......

The Real Slim Speedy! From Browns Bay just round the corner from.....which beach?

:moon:

[_Gina_]

I am pretty sure that MV said that this thread was NOT supposed to be personal......so why the personal niggles??

[Waylander]

I'm not getting personal. He want's to coe at me I'm certainly not gonna sit here and take it.:Pokey:

[SPman]

This Waylander is why i gave up on KB rides after only 3,although they were enjoyable there is far to much politic's for me.........
Politics - Fuck - you shoulda been here last year, after a really enjoyable coro ride with Death and co (in which, just coincidently, we "lost" a 996 and a CBR1000RR).
Was bad enough with the bins, but when I posted a Pic of Sam monoing past the Whangamata turn off sign, it was like announcing the start of WW3!
We had apoplectic personages coming out of the woodwork all over the place! None of whom had been on the ride, or who ever came on rides.... I didnt feel like venturing out on another KB ride for almost a year - so this shit just keeps on keeping on....new year, new detractors....Fuck em all - I'll just ride by myself...or "by appointment".

[Big Dave]

RESPEC.
I ways thought we were the rebels - a bit on the edge - facing danger for kicks - if I wanted nanna to lecture me about being safe and responsible i wouldn't ride a great big motorcycle and cuss and swear.

[TLDV8]

You do it often and will continue to do it?

Of course not :Pokey:..
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SPman, i have no problems with people doing wheelies and the like,where and when is the decision of rider.I just like to ride bikes,screw the BS and dramatics....as long as everyone enjoys themselves with a bit of give and take,things normally work out...To bad its never that easy.

[BLACKYOSHI1000]

i will ride with ya will just park the yoshi a safe distance away so ya bike dont fall onit :scratch:
see ya at taupo

[BLACKYOSHI1000]

what sort of poofta lets a honduh and a yamashit past his gixxer 1k anyway?
dont know who that was i ride a k4 gixer :baby:

[mv.senna]

dont know who that was i ride a k4 gixer :baby:

YO YOSHI.....ARE YOU FEELING CROOK MATE?? :cold: WHAT'S WITH THE LOWER CASE POSTS?? XX HAVE A GR8 TIME AT TAUPO MATE.

[NC]

WHAT IS IT??????? Is it the heat, the rain, the fact that Xmas is coming and your not getting what you really wanted this year, or is it that they have a better bike? Like what sensei stated earlier, have different paced groups. Yea if need be listen and learn from others, hell only an ignorant person could say they know it all. I need a beer, DB Draught or Haagen anyone?:blink:
We have different paced groups in welly, I dopn't hear no complaints:drinknsin

[BLACKYOSHI1000]

yo yoshi.....are you feeling crook mate?? :cold: what's with the lower case posts?? xx have a gr8 time at taupo mate.
some tossa has blocked me from posting im the case a prefer now how petty is that lmfao :moon:
taupo will be great will get to put some names to faces :drinknsin
and then we can have some race manoeuvers :chase:
enjoy ya weekend :hug:

[Lou Girardin]

some tossa has blocked me from posting im the case a prefer now how petty is that lmfao :moon:
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You've gotta be kidding. Do we have typing Police now?

[inlinefour]

We have different paced groups in welly, I dopn't hear no complaints:drinknsin

Works well and there is non of this sort of polictial B/S. I was allways taught that no matter how good you are at something, eventually someone will come along that is better. Although its a bit of a wake up call when someone goes past ya at about twice the speed Im doing, or a little quicker:shit:

[inlinefour]

You've gotta be kidding. Do we have typing Police now?

Spank has turned on the no shouting option. Which basically means that no one can type in capitials. I think it was aimed at winja. Sorry guys but I find it blardy funny...