alert!!!

[bigbadwolf]

i was talking to a mate of mine who is a highway patrol officer, he said that all police have been instructed to reprogram their radars to go off at 105km/h instead of 110!!!! :2guns: :Police:

so watch out, but if any KB policemen would care to comment and confirm or deny this it would help

[marty]

'reprogram'??? waht a crock of shite. your mate either doesn't know what he's talking about, or it's actually april 1st

[scumdog]

In the famous words from "The Castle", - 'tell 'im he's dreamin'

Programme? we don't have no stinking programme!


(The operator is the one that makes the call, not the machine UNLESS your mate was meaning speed cameras?)

[Quasievil]

He may have meant , they have been instructed to issue a ticket at 105kmph. You dont programme the eagle etc to go of at any speed, it picks up all speeds and it is the responsibility of the tax generator as to weather he feels the need to issue a notice or not. Generally because the HP are a pack of Arseholes they opt to issue a ticket, why because they can.

The Whole campaign against speed is a absolute load of crap, here in the Waikato where we have one of the highest densities of traffic to HP ratios in New Zealand they have done nothing to reduce the road toll, in fact currently its double that of last year, so whats the point ?? Well I know as do most of you who arent IRD puppets:2guns:

[bigbadwolf]

yes i am not stupid, i kno the guns arent actually programmed, but the ones in the vans and fixed ones are apparently gonna be givin tickets at 105. and cops will probably do that as well. and im also not sayin that its true, but i'm gonna have my detector (read: tax dodger) set up for any big trips

[Motig]

I heard that the 10k leeway was wiped plus they also ping you for going over 100k when passing on passing lanes.I hope its just a rumour or are they going to bring the road toll down by taking everyones licence off them so there won't be any bikes/ cars on the road? (that would work!:wacko:

[WINJA]

thats right the road toll in the waikato has doubled that of last year yet the pigs still target the wrong area "speeding" . fucken morons anyone else in business knows if a method doesnt yield results then you change the method , why not the hp

[scumdog]

I heard that the 10k leeway was wiped plus they also ping you for going over 100k when passing on passing lanes.I hope its just a rumour or are they going to bring the road toll down by taking everyones licence off them so there won't be any bikes/ cars on the road? (that would work!:wacko:

People have been getting tickets for exceeding 100kph on the passing lanes anyway and the 10kph thing is (a.t.m.) an urban myth.

[scumdog]

thats right the road toll in the waikato has doubled that of last year yet the pigs still target the wrong area "speeding" . fucken morons anyone else in business knows if a method doesnt yield results then you change the method , why not the hp

Sort of like you changing from CAPS to lower case eh??::blink: :bleh:

Oh, and it does yield results - lots of money for the Government:2thumbsup

[WINJA]

sort of like you changing from caps to lower case eh??::blink: :bleh:

oh, and it does yield results - lots of money for the government:2thumbsup
the government is a pimp , which makes you a whore piggy

[scumdog]

the government is a pimp , which makes you a whore piggy

And you sir are the client as whatever taxes you DO pay are the source of my income!!:2thumbsup

[Swoop]

they also ping you for going over 100k when passing on passing lanes.

As it clearly states in the road code....

[bigbadwolf]

As it clearly states in the road code....

the road code is stupid. if im stuck behind a truck going 90 and try to pass him by going 100, i will need the whole passing lane to do it, whereas if i speed up and pass him at 130 i'll be sweet. that goes doubly for where there are no passing lanes, cos i dont want to be right in the middle of passing a truck when someone else appears in the other lane...

is there nothing us kiwis (including cage drivers) can do to stop the government charging us road tax at every concievable opportunity??????

[Sniper]

the road code is stupid. if im stuck behind a truck going 90 and try to pass him by going 100, i will need the whole passing lane to do it, whereas if i speed up and pass him at 130 i'll be sweet.


Which means that objects come towards you 30kph faster..... :motu:

[bigbadwolf]

Which means that objects come towards you 30kph faster..... :motu:


true. but i'd rather get out of trouble as quickly as possible than sit and wait for an age while passing someone only to find myself through the window of a car coming the other way


Interesting yet irrelevant point: in a head on collision between two cars going 100kph, the resultant speed adds up to a 200kph collision, but the force is spread evenly over both masses, therefore it is exactly the same as if one of the cars crashed into a huge concrete wall at 100kph. this is assuming, of course, that the wall would not take much of the impact.

[Sniper]

Interesting yet irrelevant point: in a head on collision between two cars going 100kph, the resultant speed adds up to a 200kph collision, but the force is spread evenly over both masses, therefore it is exactly the same as if one of the cars crashed into a huge concrete wall at 100kph. this is assuming, of course, that the wall would not take much of the impact.

Errrrr, and where and how do you deduce this?

[Swoop]

the road code is stupid. if im stuck behind a truck going 90 and try to pass him by going 100, i will need the whole passing lane to do it, whereas if i speed up and pass him at 130 i'll be sweet. that goes doubly for where there are no passing lanes, cos i dont want to be right in the middle of passing a truck when someone else appears in the other lane...

is there nothing us kiwis (including cage drivers) can do to stop the government charging us road tax at every concievable opportunity??????
Quite correct, it is better to get past quickly and back into your lane... HOWEVER the rules state that you cannot go faster than the posted limit - even when passing.

What can we do about it? Where did your vote go at the last election???
When did you last go and speak with your local MP???
When did you last write to the minister of police???
These bastards are our servants, please take the time to make sure they know this!:whistle:

[oldrider]

is there nothing us kiwis (including cage drivers) can do to stop the government charging us road tax at every concievable opportunity??????
I hate to state the obvious but yes there is an answer to your question but it is not what you want to hear.
Stay within the limits or take the risk of paying out to the revenue collector.
You create the opportunity and they conceivably take your cash! simple really. :spudwhat: Cheers John.

[slopster]

Luckily if you get done at less then 10k over it is a $30 fine.

[bigbadwolf]

Errrrr, and where and how do you deduce this?

year 13 physics class. and i'm not one to argue with a teacher who has a doctorate in physics


Stay within the limits or take the risk of paying out to the revenue collector.

dam... so true...


What can we do about it? Where did your vote go at the last election???
When did you last go and speak with your local MP???
When did you last write to the minister of police???
These bastards are our servants, please take the time to make sure they know this!

as i am still a minor, i severely doubt that i could have any effect on the opinions of the wankers in charge. and i could write 1000 letters, but that would not even for the tiniest second cause any of our leaders to consider being more lenient in taxing us for "road use"

[StoneChucker]

Oh for feck sake. This stupid arguement comes up time and time again! I'm sorry, it is quite obvious that the speeding fines are given for two reasons. Revenue for the government (and therefore at some stage benefiting us as a collective) and to standardise the use of the roads and hopefully the safety there-on.

Yes it's bloody annoying being done for 111 km/h, but that's based on them giving us a 10km/h margin of error. You're doing 11km/h over the speed limit. Somewhere they have to draw a line, and the line is based on years of data from accidents and all other relevent areas. Why not put the open road limit at 110km/h? Then when you get caught at 121km/h you still want to bitch about it? Simple, make the limit 120km/h. But then 131km/h will be an unfair speed to be fined at??? Where exactly do "you" think it should stop?

And, who exactly pays to fix the road signs that Joe Smith takes out by misjudging a corner because he thought that 111km/h or 114km/h was a fairer speed for this section of road?

Alot of people bitch and whine about the F*$%ing speeding tickets which the cops revenue gather at "only" 11km/h over the speed limit when they came to work with obviously only one thing in mind, to find "you" and catch you unfairly and make you pay.

The way I see it, it's F&*%ing simple. If you don't want to be caught, or have to pay fines, whether or not you deem them fair, then don't f$&%ing exceed the limit in the first place. Clearly you are not capable of keeping a vehicle controlled correctly. Don't see it that way? Try taking off or landing a single engine aircraft 11% outside of the operating margins, and see how far you get! (11% being the 11km/h over the 100 km/h speed limit you bitch about, and the single engine aircraft being the only one I can quote from my personal experience)

[StoneChucker]

Hmm, server must have had a go slow, on submitting the previous post nothing happened for ages so I clicked stop and post again and it said I was posting a duplicate post. Guess it posted then took ages to forward me to the post:whocares: Sooo this is just a test post, as I can't even see the thread when clicking "new posts"... I'm scared:calm: :msn-wink:

[Karitane pete]

Hi All,
what is the legal requirement for a motorcycle speedo? they never read right how much error are we allowed by law 5% 10% who's knows, If a cop pings you at 105 you may get off, how Accurate is the cops Radar? ask to see the calibration cert if you feel like sturring.
Merry Christmas

[slopster]

Interesting yet irrelevant point: in a head on collision between two cars going 100kph, the resultant speed adds up to a 200kph collision, but the force is spread evenly over both masses, therefore it is exactly the same as if one of the cars crashed into a huge concrete wall at 100kph. this is assuming, of course, that the wall would not take much of the impact.

Note quite right mate. The energy (kinetic) of the collision is ½Mv² with M being mass and v being velocity. So a head on collision involving two cars at 100 clicks is twice the impact of a single car hitting a wall. However one car hitting a brick wall at 200 clicks is going to have four times impact of a car doing 100.

[sheddy]

everyone on this thread has valid points to make. The passing lanes[without right hand turns available, like near Maramarua. ( where is the sanity in allowing a right turn from a passing lane)] are the safest place to pass. There is a better than average chance the slow cage you have been following at 80km on the winding bits will speed up to near on 100km/hr on the passing lane. I say speed up a bit to cleanly get around him within the clear road available. Take your chances with getting a ticket and the low potential at this point for a crash. The law is the law and we all contribute to them like it or not. On a good day I would expect an oncoming highway cop to use some discretion?. On a bad day after the last guy they stopped got smart, your gonna pay money. Any crash with an impact of over [I''m guessing] 20km/hr is gonna do you serious damage.Sliding down the road hurts like hell but sudden stops don't bear thinking about.Remember after all is said and done you can reduce your risk by staying at home, but where is the fun in that. The ones who really p me off are those who think the first warning sign for end of passing lanes is the place to start your overtaking manouver ARRRgh!:mad: The other thing to remember of course in being human even the best of us make mistakes, it don't matter if your a rich man, poor man priest, plumber or a police officer if we get it wrong we all end up in exactly the same place...:shit: . Where any number of wheels are concerned and a bead on your abbacus gets misplaced, your in the crap.
And just like Billy Connely who always returns to the subject in hand... if your worried about tickets don't speed.

[gamgee]

so what are the incremental prices for each step over the speed limit?
like 10km/h over = $30
what about
20
30
40
50?

[Highlander]

Ever considered the possibility that these revenue gathering exercises only gather revenue from those breaking the rules?

I travel at a fairly consistent 100 - 110 on the open road and have NEVER been nabbed. When I do I'll write them a cheque.

You KNOW the rules, and that you know you are breaking them. Pay up and Shut up.

[swanman]

Funny I was listening to the radio the other day. There was a poll done on the regular police as to their biggest problems that they individualy see in their work day. The biggest response was lack of morale due to being underesourced with repect to manpower and equipment etc. As a note to this comment they also cited that way too many resources were put into the highway patrol.

As a road user of cars and bikes and having lived and driven in many different countries I can caetgoricaly say that NZ has the most highly policed road network I have experienced, but by same token it has one of the worst driving standards that I have experienced too. SUrely that doesn't make sense. Driver morale is pretty low as we are regularly ticketed for speeds that seem to be slightly higher than the speed limit on clear open roads, oftentimes when you are not even aware that you are "speeding." But at the same time the quality of the driving here is terrible (you know what I mean) and that rarely gets picked up by the highway patrols and certainly not by the speed cameras.

What causes highway accidents? (How do we get the road toll down?) Yes inappropriate speed does and bad quality driving does. DOing 91kmh in an 80kmh zone on SH17 on the hill just North of Albany village on a dual carriageway with no traffic does not cause accidents. (obviously this is a bit personal here).

Change the goddam policing of our roads! Bring in sense of fairness and reality. Pick up on speeding, yes, if it is excessive or dangerous, but focus more (much more) on bad driving standards: running red lights, turning without indicating, tailgating, pulling out in front of others, etc etc etc. That's where the problems are, NOT in speed per se.

I could write so much more, but I'll stop now as I feel a little fatigued after this rant:bye:

Oh while we are there, bring on compulsory insurance for all drivers. Lets have some finacnial responsability for our actions.

[Marmoot]

what about that only one damn cager doing 90 in 80 zone when other cars do 110? He'll be the odd one.
According to law, he is the safest one. BUT according to situation he is the danger because he is significantly slower than the others.

Should he speed up? Coz there is no way the others will slow down in this situation.

[WINJA]

ever considered the possibility that these revenue gathering exercises only gather revenue from those breaking the rules?

i travel at a fairly consistent 100 - 110 on the open road and have never been nabbed. when i do i'll write them a cheque.

you know the rules, and that you know you are breaking them. pay up and shut up.
i heard its illegal to break into houses and steal cars as well , why arent these crimes policed with as much enthusiasim, its about money not safety

[scumdog]

i heard its illegal to break into houses and steal cars as well , why arent these crimes policed with as much enthusiasim, its about money not safety

They are policed - but ain't as profitable for the govt as most burglars are sorry broken-arsed losers whose biggest asset is their skid-marked boxer-shorts, as such the govt has not much chance of getting any money out of them.

'Course I have also already explained waaaayyy back on other threads about the cost to the govt of one burglary vs the cost of one injury crash.

[scumdog]

so what are the incremental prices for each step over the speed limit?
like 10km/h over = $30
what about
20
30
40
50?

Goes up in 5km increments.

1 to 10kph = $30
11 to 15 = $80
16 to 20 = $120
21 to 25 = $170
26 to 30 = $230
31 to 35 = $300
36 to 40 = $400
41 to 45 = $510
46 to 50 = $610

51 to ?? = Lotsa walking.

Speed all you want, just be prepared to pay now and then.

[Sniper]

The ones who really p me off are those who think the first warning sign for end of passing lanes is the place to start your overtaking manouver ARRRgh!:mad:

And the ones that piss me off are the ones that are doing 90 but on the overtaking lanes they speed up to 110kph so that you have to do well over the limit just to pass them before they slow down again.

[gamgee]

And the ones that piss me off are the ones that are doing 90 but on the overtaking lanes they speed up to 110kph so that you have to do well over the limit just to pass them before they slow down again.

yeah how do most of you treat that? say you saw the idiot doing it, would that be one of the few cases where you gave a ticket in the 1-10km/h bracket, or would it be more a careless/ dangerous driving charge?

[myvice]

What about only misbehave in the back of beyond and not on the main roads where the cops sit?
I know it sounds like a dumb ass idea but if I was a cop I'd go where the people are and where I could turn around easily, e.g., not State 22, Coro loop, wherever.
And it doesn’t always work, last speeding ticket I had was for 112 on a passing lane, while passing!
I see a lot of us (bike riders) sitting on the motorways etc at 130+, I personally don’t think its dangerous but I do thinks it expensive and just give them a firmer resolve to "Stick it to us"

If two cars hit at 100 kph each, all the occupants of both cars would be dead, if one car hit a wall at 200 kph, all the occupants would be dead. So same thing really isn’t it?

[Motu]

If two cars hit at 100 kph each, all the occupants of both cars would be dead, if one car hit a wall at 200 kph, all the occupants would be dead. So same thing really isn’t it?

I don't quite follow your wording,but I think you think....that 2 cars colliding at 100kph each makes a 200kph impact - wrong,it's 2 seperate 100kph collisions.

[Fatjim]

I don't quite follow your wording,but I think you think....that 2 cars colliding at 100kph each makes a 200kph impact - wrong,it's 2 seperate 100kph collisions.

He means the science of the thing doesn't change the reality of the outcome. Equations mean squat when your arse just flew through the top of your head.

[myvice]

He means the science of the thing doesn't change the reality of the outcome. Equations mean squat when your arse just flew through the top of your head.
What I was trying to get at, should have said if two cars have a head on and are travelling at 100 kph each...

[Lou Girardin]

We did 400 k's around the middle of Northland today, saw stuff all speeders (apart from us, and we weren't too fast). But we did see an awful lot of jaffa wankers who don't travel faster than 30 km/h for 11 months of the year and can't cope with a corner if it's not at an intersection, then they get on the open raod and drive on the right at most corners.
Fuck 'em, who cares if the twats kill each other.

[Wolf]

And the ones that piss me off are the ones that are doing 90 but on the overtaking lanes they speed up to 110kph so that you have to do well over the limit just to pass them before they slow down again.
Give them a break, Snipes, they're timid wee things who cannot cope with the stresses of travelling at 100kmph in that teeny weeny single lane, what with the powerpoles "whiizzing by" on one side and the oncoming traffic thundering towards them so close on the other...

Of course, once they get to that nice wide two-lane bit they don't feel so cramped and vulnerable and can confidently speed up to the legal limit.

Please be kind to retarded cowards who're so nervous that just leaving the safety of their bed was a big ask, let alone travelling at the speed limit on that nasty ol' open road...

Either that or they're "Road Rage Facilitation Officers" employed by the government to incite people into fury at their retarded driving thus earning plenty of revenue for the govt's coffers once the insensed driver speeds up to pass...

Both theories get equal consideration when I encounter such people...

[Lou Girardin]

10 dead so far. There was only 11 for the entire holiday period last year.
I'm pleased to see all the ticket writing is working so well.

[gamgee]

i was just thinking that myself, wonder if the media machine will pick up on this and hype it up like they do every other little theory, somehow i doubt, fuck the media!

[DevoDave]

Think they are revenue gathering now, wait till we go the way of Victoria where they have outsourced speed camera operation to private companies, then you won't be a ble to move. But at least in urban areas they have resonable speed limits 50 - 80 Ks but down to 40 around schools. Most people are very law abiding obviously the fines are steep.

[WINJA]

in aussie the state with the tightest road rules , the rules we model on which is victoria has the highest fatalities , followed by nsw , the nt which i think still has no speed limit had zero fatalities

[SPman]

We did 400 k's around the middle of Northland today, saw stuff all speeders (apart from us, and we weren't too fast). But we did see an awful lot of jaffa wankers who don't travel faster than 30 km/h for 11 months of the year and can't cope with a corner if it's not at an intersection, then they get on the open raod and drive on the right at most corners.
Fuck 'em, who cares if the twats kill each other.
Unfortunately, everyone is tarred with the same level of driving ability brush by the beareaucrats, so they want everyone to travel at those speeds on the highway as well! Have you seen those fucking wire barriers by Te Kauwhata on the edge of the road, as well as the centre - to stop twats running over the bank FFS!
So if you deviate from the straight and narrow at the lowest common denominator speed - you are fucked!
Sort of sums up the whole attitude to road safety!
I agree with Lou - Fuck 'em, who cares if the twats kill each other. - as long as I can keep clear by whatever means - and that includes going as fast as possible to keep clear of these Twats!

in aussie the state with the tightest road rules , the rules we model on which is victoria has the highest fatalities , followed by nsw , the nt which i think still has no speed limit had zero fatalities
When they scrapped the 50 mph limit in the states,and replaced with , generally 70mph, death rates dropped by up to 20%, even in the States that had no upper limit!

[marty]

We did 400 k's around the middle of Northland today, saw stuff all speeders (apart from us, and we weren't too fast). But we did see an awful lot of jaffa wankers who don't travel faster than 30 km/h for 11 months of the year and can't cope with a corner if it's not at an intersection, then they get on the open raod and drive on the right at most corners.
Fuck 'em, who cares if the twats kill each other.

i don't actually mind if they're travelling on the right - means i don't have to cross the centreline to pass em

[scumdog]

10 dead so far. There was only 11 for the entire holiday period last year.
I'm pleased to see all the ticket writing is working so well.

Yeah, the official 'secret' forecast was for 17 dead so looking pretty good so far (unless you happen to be one of the dead) :(

[WINJA]

Yeah, the official 'secret' forecast was for 17 dead so looking pretty good so far (unless you happen to be one of the dead) :(
iT DEPENDS ON THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IT , IF YOU DIED CAUSE OF YOUR OWN SHIT DRIVING THEN TOUGH SHIT, ID RATHER SHIT DRIVERS PULL OUT IN FRONT OF A "B" TRAIN AND DIE THAN PULL OUT IN FRONT OF MY BIKE

[Swoop]

iT DEPENDS ON THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IT , IF YOU DIED CAUSE OF YOUR OWN SHIT DRIVING THEN TOUGH SHIT, ID RATHER SHIT DRIVERS PULL OUT IN FRONT OF A "B" TRAIN AND DIE THAN PULL OUT IN FRONT OF MY BIKE

Bloody hell - Winjas caps lock is back in action!! Welcome back Winja!!!

[gamgee]

wasn't one of the fatalities included from a 4wd'er paddock bashing?

[Swoop]

But we did see an awful lot of jaffa wankers who don't travel faster than 30 km/h for 11 months of the year and can't cope with a corner if it's not at an intersection, then they get on the open raod and drive on the right at most corners.
The real scary thing is that the dickheads here (Auckland) haven't read the "keep left" rule... I see morons who join the (3 lane) motorway from the left, and proceed to instantly go hard out for the right hand lane, even if there's no traffic around. Go figure...

[hXc]

This is to the comments on writing to people/votes for last election and stuff. I got this quote off Billie-Joe Armstrong from Greenday on their live dvd/cd, Bullet In a Bible. He has a bloody valid point too. Just don't take it to the extreme 'cause then it's anarchy but that's another story.

"You're the fucking leaders, you have the power. Don't let these bastards dictate the rest of the world, or dictate you fucking life!"

[myvice]

The real scary thing is that the dickheads here (Auckland) haven't read the "keep left" rule... I see morons who join the (3 lane) motorway from the left, and proceed to instantly go hard out for the right hand lane, even if there's no traffic around. Go figure...
I drive/ride in Auckland every day, I'd like to defend the drivers here but they are much, much worse than you could ever believe!
But even combined they are not as bad as the taxis!
How many other industries are there where you get worse at it the longer you do it?

[Marmoot]

I drive/ride in Auckland every day, I'd like to defend the drivers here but they are much, much worse than you could ever believe!

Nah....not at all. Only the Asians, I was told.
:devil2:

let's stir the shit again.....

[myvice]

Asian taxi driver in a 4wd?
Scary!!!

[MikeL]

How to make the roads safer...

Stop giving me tickets for 11 km/h over the limit.

Works like this:

I've had a licence since 1967. I reckon I've ridden/driven well over a million miles since then. No fatalities, no serious injuries, not a single ticket for anything remotely dangerous. And only 4 speeding tickets in all that time. Trouble is, the last three have all been in the last 15 months (all for 11 km/hr over). Two more lots of demerit points and I lose my licence for 3 months. I not only think that I'm a safer driver/rider than average (yeah, I know, everybody says the same thing), I think that the statistical evidence proves it. So what will happen when I have to start walking? Removing me from the roads will decrease the average safety level of all road users, infinitesimally perhaps, but decrease it nevertheless. And what might be infinitesimal in the case of one individual becomes a lot more significant when multiplied by thousands of similar individuals.

So here's my message to the HP: do your bit to improve the average safety level of road users by letting me keep my licence.

You've got the wrong target.

But I expect you realize that anyway...

[Marmoot]

If we get penalized for breaking the law, we should be rewarded for obeying the law!

Say, for certain period of driving at 100kph (not breaking the law), we should get a voucher for speeding that we can use if we get caught.

Or, if we get through a year without even a single parking fine, we should be commended for being a nice citizen and get a free speeding voucher redeemable in the next 12 months.

How's that idea?

:sunny:

[Motu]

I find this whole 10kph over the limit thing a bit strange - it never used to be there,it's a fairly recent happening...and in days gone by getting a ticket for 1kph over was quite common,really really annoying,but it happened,often.But then like MikeL,I've been on the road a long time with very few speeding tickets,and I bet I was speeding more than him in my youth! But I got heaps of warnings,getting pulled over by a Traffic Cop was a big thing.

Another thing is how it makes us think - we don't get a ticket unless we are doing 111kph,so 110 is ok...ok? But I can ride at 120kph,and if I see a Cop,then just back off,touch of brake and I'm at 108kph,no worries! It's like lowering the drinking age...only those over 18 can buy booze - yeah right.110kph is legall,so I can do 120kph no worries...it's my right!!

[Lou Girardin]

I find this whole 10kph over the limit thing a bit strange - it never used to be there,it's a fairly recent happening...and in days gone by getting a ticket for 1kph over was quite common,really really annoying,but it happened,often.!

I've never heard of this, ever!
The lowest I've heard was 5 km/h over a couple of years ago in Nelson. And the area Commander responsible for the policy was mysteriously transferred soon after.

BTW. The cops answer to the holiday road toll - tougher enforcement.:tugger:

Someone tell them it hasn't worked in the last 6 years.

[Ixion]

I got stopped for 54mph once (when the limit was 50) . Only a written warning though. I suspect the snake had seen me around blatting about at much higher speeds and wanted to "put me on notice". And I did pull it back for a while after that , too. The old snakes were more into trying to improve driver behaviour rather than just dishing out tickets, IMHO. The MOT and ACC ones anyway. Some of the one horse town ones could be real arseholes.

[scumdog]

I've never heard of this, ever!
The lowest I've heard was 5 km/h over a couple of years ago in Nelson. And the area Commander responsible for the policy was mysteriously transferred soon after.

BTW. The cops answer to the holiday road toll - tougher enforcement.:tugger:

Someone tell them it hasn't worked in the last 6 years.

Of course NO enforcement would work HEAPS better????:crazy:

[Marmoot]

BTW. The cops answer to the holiday road toll - tougher enforcement.:tugger:

Someone tell them it hasn't worked in the last 6 years.

It's the ministers/government, to be exact.

Time for a revolution?

[Squiggles]

im more worried about the people who run straight thru the red and nearly take me out than the guy going 111k's an hour.... both are dangerous, but i'd say the red light is more so. Of course the deterant for that is something like a $40 fine? or is that for driving down the wrong side of the road? that deterant doesnt mean shit all around auckland. Perhaps the police should put less emphasis on catching people going slightly over the limit, and more on catching those driving blatently dangerous around our city streets.

If i get fined i'll pay the fine, but i dont see that happening as i stay under 110 :)

[JohnR]

Compliments of the season everyone.:spudwave:
Our estimed Minister of Transport, Harry wotsisname, has suggested that it would good if we all "helped" road safety by dobbing in bad driving!:psst:
Question 1: If someone dobs you in... what then?:spudwhat:
Question 2: By who's standards is "bad driving" measured?:spudwhat:
Question 3: How can "bad drivers" determine that someone else is a "bad driver"?:spudwhat:

Safest bet is to only do dumb things in front of asian taxi drivers in 4WDs!

[Lou Girardin]

Of course NO enforcement would work HEAPS better????:crazy:

According to the AA, that's basically what you guys did between 1990 and 1999.
Didn't the road toll drop far more then than since?:slap:

[Lou Girardin]

Compliments of the season everyone.:spudwave:
Our estimed Minister of Transport, Harry wotsisname, has suggested that it would good if we all "helped" road safety by dobbing in bad driving!:psst:
Question 1: If someone dobs you in... what then?:spudwhat:
Question 2: By who's standards is "bad driving" measured?:spudwhat:
Question 3: How can "bad drivers" determine that someone else is a "bad driver"?:spudwhat:

Safest bet is to only do dumb things in front of asian taxi drivers in 4WDs!

Then you get people who don't know the road rules dobbing other people in. The cops just love this.

[Ixion]

It's the ministers/government, to be exact.

Time for a revolution?


IT'S all a CONSPIRACY