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Indiana_Jones
21st March 2004, 19:40
What's a pretty fast bike (accel and top speed)
Cause if I get in the forces I'm gonna buy one (brand new) when I'm like 1/2 way through uni :2thumbsup

Thanks

-Indy

marty
21st March 2004, 19:45
have you ever opened a Trader Bike mag? it's full of 'em. How about a nice RS250 Aprilia?

Zed
21st March 2004, 19:58
What's a pretty fast bike (accel and top speedWhat size bike do you want? Most modern sports bikes are quick, but of course the bigger the engine the faster the machine should move (top speed anyway). The 600cc motorcycle is an excellent allrounder I have found, generally fast acceleration and reaches above average top speeds. :2thumbsup

There are many things to consider in relation to your question. Can you give us some more info on what your experience is and your preferences in a bike?


Zed

Indiana_Jones
21st March 2004, 20:04
well I would be looking at 600+
Myself, I've had my learners for 2 months now and have ridden a Honda 200 dirt bike, GN125 and the cycle I own, FXR150 :D

But in a few years after I got some more experince, full license and of course some money! :D

-Indy

Zed
21st March 2004, 20:13
well I would be looking at 600+
Myself, I've had my learners for 2 months now and have ridden a Honda 200 dirt bike, GN125 and the cycle I own, FXR150 :D

But in a few years after I got some more experince, full license and of course some money! :D

-Indy
I would only recommend that you go from a 150cc to a 600cc+ machine if you are a competant and safe rider! Otherwise stay with the smaller bikes until you gain several more years experience...at present the new 600cc+ sportsbikes are VERY quick bikes, in several years time when you are ready to purchase one they will probably be even faster! :eek:


Zed

Indiana_Jones
21st March 2004, 20:34
BOO-YAH, faster bikes :D I might be stupid and grab a CBR250 or ZXR250 next year, again IF I get in the forces :D

-Indy

Two Smoker
21st March 2004, 21:34
BOO-YAH, faster bikes :D I might be stupid and grab a CBR250 or ZXR250 next year, again IF I get in the forces :D

-Indy
Definately don't go from a FXR to a 600 Supersport, you will either kill your self or bin it and write it off, think more along the lines of 400cc or 250cc, ive got to be honest and tell you that the FXR is a slow hunk of crap, but a great learning bike..... I think your wanting too much with too little experience, but mmmmmmm dreams are good:rolleyes: , I know because im dreaming all the time about the day i get my R6 lol....

Indiana_Jones
21st March 2004, 21:47
ive got to be honest and tell you that the FXR is a slow hunk of crap, but a great learning bike..... I think your wanting too much with too little experience, but mmmmmmm dreams are good:rolleyes: , I know because im dreaming all the time about the day i get my R6 lol....

LIES! LIES! I'M NOT HEARING THIS! :no:

lol yeah I know it's crap, but it's my little slice of hevean :D
I guess I'll grab a 250 then, then move onto a GSX600 or CBR600RR :cool:
Dreams are cool, I keep dreaming that I'm gonna see da Titanic before she caves in :laugh:

-Indy

dangerous
21st March 2004, 22:42
Definately don't go from a FXR to a 600 Supersport, you will either kill your self or bin it and write it off

Not nesaseraly, I know that one of the forum users here went from a FXR150 to a GSX600 and now is on their second 750 and all this inside 4 yrs.
But you do need the upmost of respect for that big jump, and it would be most proberble that you would drop the bike turning it around or somthing silly like that.

Morepower
1st April 2004, 22:41
SV650 , seriously a much easier step than to a high strung 600 , the V twin is very easy to ride quickly.

My 02c

wkid_one
2nd April 2004, 07:43
I went from a 250 to a thou - no problems at all. You right hand controls the danger.....provided you aren't stupid - it doesn't matter what you go to next.

750Y
2nd April 2004, 09:12
keep it real. don't be in a rush, there's a lot of joy in reaching different stages in Your riding and being on the right bike helps you do that. You don't need the fastest bike to go fast, and the fastest bikes are sometimes less fun because you've gone from riding being fun to it being 'serious' which is when you need to be able to draw on that experience to stay alive.
at the end of the day, do what makes you happy but just keep your head when you buy that monster.

duckman
2nd April 2004, 11:33
I went from a 250 to a thou - no problems at all. You right hand controls the danger.....provided you aren't stupid - it doesn't matter what you go to next.
Does anyone else see the irony of this post.. ???? :rolleyes:

750Y
2nd April 2004, 11:44
Does anyone else see the irony of this post.. ???? :rolleyes:

yeah, He went pretty hard out of the blocks.

Cajun
2nd April 2004, 12:19
i pretty much went from a zzr250 to my current gsxr1100(thats ownership tho) but i had also been riding for 7 years, and only reason i had the zzr250 was for teaching people to learn to ride on (3 females). But in also in that time i have clocked lots of milage up on other peoples bikes, from 50cc to 1500cc

Its all down to how much control over your left hand you got.

But Indiana_Jones i think your best bet after the fxr150 is a good 600cc, maybe not strange brand new, something a couple years old, for starters, if ya gonna in in army don't wanna big hp bike around desert road in winter dc:<. even tho that never stoped me before.

White trash
2nd April 2004, 17:15
.........

Its all down to how much control over your left hand you got.

...........

:gob: How the hell do you ride a bike? :wacko:

DEATH_INC.
2nd April 2004, 19:24
Does anyone else see the irony of this post.. ???? :rolleyes:
:Pokey:
Yeh,I was thinkin the same thing :laugh:

dangerous
2nd April 2004, 19:46
SV650 , seriously a much easier step than to a high strung 600 ,
My 02c

Well I'm not sure about that, The person I spoke of above tried a SV650 before the GSX600 and she found it rather atimadating.
I also have friends that have been to Vtwins like the TL1000 (after many years riding) and found the same thing.

I can see why, A V2 will bite in down low were as a muilty needs to be wound out a bit first so its easier to keep under control.
The guy that had trouble with the TL1000 now has a Bussa and loves it.

But as for me its V twins all the way 4's belong in cars :whistle:

merv
2nd April 2004, 19:58
I went from a 250 to a thou - no problems at all

No problems you say ye of damaged shoulder fame who isn't allowed to ride on the road at the mo!!!

Angry Puppy
2nd April 2004, 20:44
.....Cause if I get in the forces I'm gonna buy one (brand new) when I'm like 1/2 way through uni...

Exactly how much do you think you're going to get paid 'in the forces'?

Hmmm, The purfect bike $25k, Insurance $40k, Last will and testiment - priceless.

wkid_one
2nd April 2004, 22:29
Does anyone else see the irony of this post.. ???? :rolleyes:

I pushed myself - and knew I would crash as a result - even admitted so. Same thing woulda happened if I went to a 600 instead of a thou - had nothing to do with the bike - it was the rider. Feck - I rode a 250 this week and rode it exactly the same as the R1....cc's has nothing to do with it.

My point is - just because a bike is 1000cc - doesn't make it any more or less dangerous than a 600 - it is, and always will be, the rider. No bike is dangerous until someone hops on it. The jump from a 250 to a thou is not a stupid move if you treat the bike like a 1000cc bike. Most people will have early accidents on a new bike purely because they aren't used to it - regardless of the CC's of the bike.

To say a 1000cc bike is not a suitable jump from a 250 is ridiculous.....as it comes down to the individual rider.

Things like the size of the rider is fundamentally important - hence the thou for me - I would buy the 600RR.....if I could fit on it.

To come back to the original question

If you want 'fucken quick' - go for a 'Bus/Blackbird/ZX12R.

If you want hell quick and better handling - go for a GSXR1. R1, ZX10, CBR1RR

If you want really quick and even better handling - go for a GSX6R, ZX636, R6, CBR600RR

At the end of the day - any sports bike 600cc and up will have superb handling and great speed - it comes down to which you prefer.

The only difference is, the higher you go in cc's - the quicker you lose your license and the worse the handling becomes.

Posh Tourer :P
3rd April 2004, 09:19
I disagree..... most smaller bikes, like the FXR150, allow you to be "stupid" in a corner, like booting it while leaned hard over, snapping the throttle open when you just want to go a bit faster, correct alot in corners, and also dont encourage you to pass things quickly. They are light and easy to handle, and jumping to a 1000cc bike will change all these things. If you dont know *exactly* what you are doing you can easily get into trouble. I went from a 125/250 to a 650, and it was still an eye opener as to how much less forgiving in the corners it was. And the beemer is a forgiving and not very powerful bike.

Indiana_Jones
3rd April 2004, 09:50
Good points have been made here :yes:, I think I might get a GSX-R400 :blah:

-Indy

Wonko
3rd April 2004, 10:17
I went from a gutless 1982 GL 145, started to overheat at 110, to a 1986 GPZ600R. Not the fastest 600, but the performance change was the hardest thing to get used to. Courners had to be taken a little eairler, and ad to start to slow down a bit sooner etc.

Racing from one courner to the next happens a lot faster in a bad way untill you addapt to it.

My advice is that if you have the pingers buy a late model 600, that way you can flick it with out losing the same amount as a new bike, it will handle excelently, and will be a damn site quicker than the 150.

DEATH_INC.
3rd April 2004, 10:35
Good points have been made here :yes:, I think I might get a GSX-R400 :blah:

-Indy
You don't say how big you are,if yer under 65-70 kg then a 400 will be a good choice if yer a bit bigger consider a 600.....
My opinion:don't even consider a Busa/Blackie/ZX12 until you have a decent amount of experience,these things are very unforgiving and will kill you double quick!
The thou's are better,at least they handle well,but a bit of a slip with the right hand when cranked over will spell doom without the experience to know what to do,these things aren't made for beginners.....
the 750's are more forgiving,but a 600 isn't much slower and gives a bigger margin for error....
I'm gonna say look at a SV650 too,they don't have the instant grunt that the thou V-twins have,and handle pretty decently too :2thumbsup

Holy Roller
3rd April 2004, 12:05
Good points have been made here :yes:, I think I might get a GSX-R400 :blah:

-Indy
If you stay under 500cc the insurance is alot cheaper :niceone:
My 500 is actually 498cc so I qualify for the cheaper rate.
It still goes fast enough to loose ones licence and to keep up with the bigger bikes ( well sort of) on a trip if they stay under 140

I should be out riding instead of taking a break on here from the accounts. :not: Must polish the bike for tomorrows :ride: