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Lias

24th February 2006, 15:21

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3582978a11,00.html
James Bond device not enough to escape long arm of law
24 February 2006

A Tauranga man who used a James Bond-style device to hide his motorcycle licence plate from police was fined $1640 after crashing into a patrol car during a high-speed pursuit.

Garry Leonard Muzyka, 46, had a hand lever next to the fuel tank, which enabled him to tilt the number plate so it was horizontal and could not be read, the Bay of Plenty Times reported.

He was convicted and fined after pleading guilty to one charge each of exceeding the 100kph speed limit, failing to stop for police and dangerous driving.

No charge was laid in relation to the number plate device.

bugjuice

24th February 2006, 15:24

No charge was laid in relation to the number plate device.
so we'll be fine then? I was thinking of doing one for when the road toll things come out, and snap a shot of the reg.. *click*

on a lever.. geeze.. that's not James Bond, that's Caveman.. get wivit

and did he hit the police car, or did the police car just happen to pull out 'at the wrong time'?
but there's a new can of worms..

idiot shouldn't have run anyway

Sutage

24th February 2006, 15:24

hehe wish i could say it was me who thought of that :D

enigma51

24th February 2006, 15:25

how is a lever you pull a james bond invention

If it was a button sure but a lever next to your tank sounds more like a hill billy invention!

SimJen

24th February 2006, 15:27

Wolf

24th February 2006, 15:37

I was thinking of a hinge with a specific level of friction that lifts at 60+kmhr. :)
Or an electronic lifter either automatic or operated via a button on the dash.
Definately more of a James Bond device than a stink lever ;)
"Journalistic Licence", old bean, "crude hick method of hiding number plate not enough to escape long arm of law" does not have quite the same ring or sales-boosting potential. The bugger who wrote the headline probably doesn't get to go to the movies a lot and so his impression of James Bond is probably based more on The Hardy Boys Adventures and the old "Get Smart" series.

sAsLEX

24th February 2006, 15:37

so we'll be fine then? I was thinking of doing one for when the road toll things come out, and snap a shot of the reg.. *click*

Big brothers not that silly, you will have have an rf id tag on your vehicle/person

Hoon

24th February 2006, 15:41

I was thinking of a hinge with a specific level of friction that lifts at 60+kmhr. :)
That won't work. What if you were doing bad things and had to slow under 60 for some reason i.e. a slow corner or to avoid traffic??
On the flipside, what if you were legit and ride past a cop on the motorway with your plate up?

Wolf

24th February 2006, 15:42

Big brothers not that silly, you will have have an rf id tag on your vehicle/person
and then the roads will be safe from "dangerous speeders" because there'll be another sort of "toll" request sent out if you cover the distance between two of the scanners in less than an "acceptable" time...

SPORK

24th February 2006, 15:45

Big brothers not that silly, you will have have an rf id tag on your vehicle/person
RFID tags have a range of about 3 feet though, I thought? Anyway, lets not get into a Big Brother debate, lets just laugh about "James Bond" inventions.

bugjuice

24th February 2006, 15:49

Big brothers not that silly, you will have have an rf id tag on your vehicle/person
ooo sorry Mr Officer.. no idea how that tinfoil managed to wrap itself around the unit.. what luck..

actually, that ain't gonna work.. every vehicle would have to have one fitted, or a snap shot of their plate and a bill sent.. no RFID and no plate = no bill..

Big Dave

24th February 2006, 15:52

how is a lever you pull a james bond invention

You've never seen a Sean Connery one then?

sAsLEX

24th February 2006, 16:22

ooo sorry Mr Officer.. no idea how that tinfoil managed to wrap itself around the unit.. what luck..

actually, that ain't gonna work.. every vehicle would have to have one fitted, or a snap shot of their plate and a bill sent.. no RFID and no plate = no bill..

your so boring and predictable, heres what you do

scan rf ids for transmitting freq
hide near police station
listen to their rf id's
make you own rf id using the cops code
drive around all the toll roads you can find

madboy

24th February 2006, 16:42

Hey, don't knock the guy for trying. Evolution is where most things come from, just cos he was using Version 1.0 doesn't mean to say it's a bad thing. That's how you get V1.1 and onward. Some of us are still using Version -1.0...

Of course, getting caught... now that's just really bad luck. And expensive too if he damaged the bike. Wonder how many successful runners he'd had before?

Waylander

24th February 2006, 16:44

why worry about the tolls at all Buggy? Usually free for bikes. Even the ones in the states were free for bikes.

bugjuice

24th February 2006, 16:45

I'll just have to learn to do 12'oclock wheelies, then the plate doesn't show..

sAsLEX

24th February 2006, 16:47

why worry about the tolls at all Buggy? Usually free for bikes. Even the ones in the states were free for bikes.

Look at NCEA and unique NZ things like that, we dont do things like the rest of the world, hell they will prob read the bikes are 16 time worse than cars thread and charge us more than cars :bye:

Waylander

24th February 2006, 16:55

FROSTY

24th February 2006, 22:16

omg itll be like singapore-where you have a scanner in the car automaticly charging ya for miles used-on the tollroads

24th February 2006, 22:58

The toll road here in Tauranga is free for bikes.

Another thing I want to know, if they don't have enough money to fix the roads wich is why they are putting these things in, how are they paying forthe toll booths anyway? And why the fuck is the rest of the country paying so much to fix just Auckland roads?

Your government here has way too much freedom to do as they will.

Yes I'll bite :p

I think you will find that Dorklanders like me pay more than their fair share of road tax but the Gumbiment prefers to spend it on social experiments like "screwing for families so that you can have more kids than you can afford" programmes.

I think it's time I went to bed now.

But toll roads are a good idea - especially if I don't have to pay on my bike. :)

Lou Girardin

25th February 2006, 08:44

Forget the flip up plate, I want the oil disperser. (or the machine guns)
I already have an ejection seat, it works when it senses a high-side.

marty

25th February 2006, 08:48

there's 3 good things thing about toll roads. 1. if you're late, they are fast. 2. they make the old roads empty, so the windy bits are more fun :) 2. HP cars police the toll rds, not the back rds.

marty

25th February 2006, 08:49

and apparantly a motor and switch out of a mitsubishi wing mirror folder is the cooolest and most discrete way to fold your plate.........

Wolf

25th February 2006, 11:58

and apparantly a motor and switch out of a mitsubishi wing mirror folder is the cooolest and most discrete way to fold your plate.........
Will the ones from our Toyota work just as well?

Bonez

25th February 2006, 13:03

You've never seen a Sean Connery one then?Wasn't Q responsable for all tose gadgets? http://www.klast.net/bond/q.html

What?

25th February 2006, 19:00

Wasn't Q responsable for all tose gadgets? http://www.klast.net/bond/q.html
Bastard! That's exactly the pedantic point I was going to make. :sherlock:

What?

25th February 2006, 19:04

The toll road here in Tauranga is free for bikes.
Something that may be attributable to one of, or a combination of two things:
1/ I wrote a long and reasoned letter to the council suggesting the road be free for bikes several months before it opened, and
2/ The council's transportation manager rides a couple of triumphs.

I would not expect any other toll roads to be free for bikes unless the administrators of said roads are convinced to make it so.

Bonez

25th February 2006, 19:10

Bastard! I resemble that remark (so the wiffy keeps telling me ;) Bond was just a guinea pig who got to pork a few sows............

Stopper Dan

25th February 2006, 19:18

:quote:"And shepherds we shall be, for thee my lord for thee. Power hath decended forth from thy hand so our feet may swiftly carry out thy command. And we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.":quote:

damn fine movie, (a little off topic. sorry)

NordieBoy

25th February 2006, 19:21

omg itll be like singapore-where you have a scanner in the car automaticly charging ya for miles used-on the tollroads
They look stupid on the motorbikes.
At least you can hide one on a Gold Wing but a normal bike :puke:

Toast

25th February 2006, 19:38

That won't work. What if you were doing bad things and had to slow under 60 for some reason i.e. a slow corner or to avoid traffic??
On the flipside, what if you were legit and ride past a cop on the motorway with your plate up?

One member of this site does it already. Swears by it too.

madboy

25th February 2006, 20:01

Another member of this site doesn't bother with any form of plate disguise, aside from thin air where the plate used to be. Seems to work okay for them too. Cost $2.49 at the Warehouse for the velcro in case the plate needs to go back on for whatever ungodly reason (perhaps 2up with the missus).

skidMark

25th February 2006, 20:20

i can confirm after extensive research in the garage this evening...it is easily do able....

now i just gotta buy another door hinge for my bedroom :shifty:

:shake:

skidMark

25th February 2006, 20:24

T.I.E

25th February 2006, 20:47

some one told me once about a choke lever, pull it out and up pops the licence plate. carfeully wired up it's another idea. but i do like the wing mirror idea with the electric motor and button.

was also looking for a switch which turns off all the rear lights including the brake light for night time fun. unfortunately no brake lights could mean trouble, but it would make a rider hard to see at night from the rear.

skidMark

25th February 2006, 20:50

hook up all the rear light earths together...or where they all join to the rest of the loom .....and wire a switch into the middle of it

marty

25th February 2006, 21:53

i'll post a pic of a bike that is currently having a system fitted, in a week or two

El Dopa

26th February 2006, 13:43

was also looking for a switch which turns off all the rear lights including the brake light for night time fun. unfortunately no brake lights could mean trouble, but it would make a rider hard to see at night from the rear.

My boss claims to have once had one of those wired into his bike, for, um, when he was late for important apointments, and didn't want to stop for a wee chat with the nice traffic cops.

Swoop

26th February 2006, 15:46

Why bolt a plate on, when simply attaching it with split rings (key-rings) is "much faster"...

skidMark

26th February 2006, 17:36

Why bolt a plate on, when simply attaching it with split rings (key-rings) is "much faster"...

not following you lol

madboy

27th February 2006, 12:34

Why bolt a plate on, when simply attaching it with split rings (key-rings) is "much faster"...You'll find velcro is faster still.

local

27th February 2006, 12:59

http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3673726&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Lou Girardin

27th February 2006, 13:40

was also looking for a switch which turns off all the rear lights including the brake light for night time fun. unfortunately no brake lights could mean trouble, but it would make a rider hard to see at night from the rear.

Very important that. Years ago I had a guy do a runner on an XS1100, he killed his lights and took a left, the trouble was that I could see the reflection of his brake light in the windows of houses across the street. And trying to say that you were just heading out after you've been at your girlfriends house won't work when your bike is all knock-kneed and cooking.:tugger:

Dooly

27th February 2006, 14:27

About 8 years ago I was talking to a group of older riders somewhere and all of them had the choke cable hingy number plate. They were all on sports bikes.
They said they used to raise the plate in town, or towns they passed through for speed camera purposes.
I remember thinking back then, 'how simple, how effective.':first:

madboy

27th February 2006, 16:46

154k? And he crossed the centre line once? OMG - what a lunatic. People like that deserve to get rammed off the road when they try to stop for the cops.

What's the moral of the story here, fellas?

Swoop

27th February 2006, 16:53

You'll find velcro is faster still.
Especially with cold hands....

imdying

27th February 2006, 16:54

154k? And he crossed the centre line once? OMG - what a lunatic. People like that deserve to get rammed off the road when they try to stop for the cops.

What's the moral of the story here, fellas?Don't do a runner in the first place?

madboy

27th February 2006, 18:05

I guess that's one way to guarantee you get caught.

sAsLEX

27th February 2006, 18:14

Don't do a runner in the first place?

dont try and stop, is what madboy is getting at

Ixion

27th February 2006, 18:16

He may have had little choice if they put a police car in front of him.

Timber020

27th February 2006, 21:42

okay so someone mentioned in another post that having your plate upside down isnt illegal. What if you got a personalise plate with figures that read upside down

IE you could get the plate M6NHIS upside down it would look like SIHN9W

A flip plate is more likely to arise general public interest, why not have a second sticker like printed plate underneath for people to tisk at and possibly record for those lovely *555 call. Get a plate number from a tractor in a mueseum or something just to be extra funny. IF you have no plate the driver will take good note of your bike, you gear colour etc. If they get a number thats all they will record in all likelyhood.

Dadpole

27th February 2006, 22:16

Timber020 has it right. Very "Bondish"

Ixion

27th February 2006, 22:18

Better, a dummy plate with a cop bike number on it.

Though if you wanted to be clever rather than smart-arse, the number of an unrelated bike of same colour same make but different model. Onlookers may get "Suzuki", "Honda", "blue" ,"orange" etc but are unlikely to get the model

Dadpole

27th February 2006, 22:27

Dead right. Give the punters a reg number and they won't notice much else.

Wolf

27th February 2006, 23:06

Timber020 has it right. Very "Bondish"
A small electric motor and a switch and you could rotate it at the press of a button - even more Bondish. Would need a few extra bits so it "knew" where to stop rather than continuing to spin like a propeller but it shouldn't be too difficult.

The Ultimate "Bond" one is to have two realistic dummy plates with fake registrations, both to each other and your real plate at the long edges so you have a "tube" with a triangular cross-section, put an axle down the centre so it pivots and rig it that a press of a switch can rotate it so that the different plates show on demand.

To be really mean, have one of the plates read something damning to someone else, like R4Q2 :devil2:

Timber020

28th February 2006, 21:59

I was thinking of getting the plate SSWHO

Upside down it would be OHMSS

now THATS james bond!!!!!!

madboy

1st March 2006, 12:56

Though if you wanted to be clever rather than smart-arse, the number of an unrelated bike of same colour same make but different model. Onlookers may get "Suzuki", "Honda", "blue" ,"orange" etc but are unlikely to get the modelNo, because the cops will think that's near enough, and the poor innocent bugger on the same colour same make but different model will get busted for something you did. Cops don't care if it's a CBR1000RR or a CBR250RR. Unless the innocent bugger on the 250 can get the VP of Product Development for Honda sitting on the stand in court saying it's impossible for a CBR250RR to be popping a wheelie at 230k+, then the 250 owner guilty.

Ixion

1st March 2006, 13:27

Well, obviously for this approach you have to be a totally selfish bastard who doesn't care if someone else gets done for a runner they didn't do. Nobody mentioned "honorable" as one of the criteria.

Only reason to make it a different model is so that if a cop sees YOU (the real runner) and thinks - "that looks VERY like that bike that did a runner from me" and stops you, you can say, "Oh, but officer, you say you are looking for a CBR250. But this bike I'm riding is a CBR600. It's not ME you want. ". Without inviting him to take too close at look at your rego plate system.

Timber020

1st March 2006, 16:54

That why you need a second plate under the first, gives the police something to look for!
(its really just being helpful as the driver is satisfied because he thinks your as good as caught, the innocent 250 rider will be in the clear and the police wont have to try to stop and check every bike on the road needlessly, everyone wins, happily ever after, everyone kicked a goal.)

Swoop

3rd April 2006, 21:33

Anyone know uncle helen's numberplate???

It must figure pretty highly on the ecilops database at the moment... Speeding... hit and run... etc, etc...:laugh:

Finn

3rd April 2006, 21:36

Anyone know uncle helen's numberplate???

It must figure pretty highly on the ecilops database at the moment... Speeding... hit and run... etc, etc...:laugh:

I also wonder what the fine is for fucking up a country.