So where do you use the power? [Archive]

Lazy7

28th February 2006, 15:40

Okay - another dumbass and probably quite niave post of mine but i can't figure this out.

my bike, while quite quick is still not *that* fast when compared to the likes of the thou-sports bikes or even other 750's..

but. it will still break the law in every gear in about 3 seconds if i let it.

even at half throttle to about 7k pulling away from the lights it *sounds* like i am in a formula 1 car and i worry the cops will pull me up for "recklass accelleration" like they do the boy racers.

So where do you guys find that you actually use the power? i still haven't made the bike truly scream. everything else around me just moves too slowly for me to be able to do it. and legally its just a plain no-no.

am i being too conservative? maybe too responsible? maybe i am just being a big pussy.

do you guys on your R1's and GSXR1000's ever actually ring them out on the road???

HDTboy

28th February 2006, 15:42

Go up SH16, or down 22, or thru round thru kaiaua and on to the coromandle loop. you'll find you use a bit more power than you would in town

GR81

28th February 2006, 15:46

SH1 ? :niceone:

bugjuice

28th February 2006, 15:48

my bike does 107kph in first.. the thous are geared for something stupid like 140 in first..

I use the power to get the front wheel up, to get out of trouble, anywhere mostly out of town, to make it sound good, to scare the shit outta me.. lots of places. you're just not trying hard enough

just don't do it around fuzz

kiwifruit

28th February 2006, 15:50

"do you guys on your R1's and GSXR1000's ever actually ring them out on the road??? "
i have a couple of times, its a bit dangerous on public roads IMO.
the track is good, however i certainly dont use all the power! i dont know if i ever will have the skills to use ALL the power of a bike like this....
if you can find a private road, thats a good place to open it up in all the gears

Mental Trousers

28th February 2006, 16:04

Anywhere I can.

I avoid the popular state highways (particularly 1) because there's more cops on them, so I tend to like back roads (which are more interesting anyway). SHW's are painful cos I go very, very slow on them to avoid losing the license to have fun. So you won't find me on them very often at all.

The Stranger

28th February 2006, 16:33

That is part of being a responsible rider, knowing where all those closed private roads are hidden.

ManDownUnder

28th February 2006, 16:41

That is part of being a responsible rider, knowing where all those closed private roads are hidden.

.... and organising rides along them with your mates...

onearmedbandit

28th February 2006, 16:43

On the road, nah not much. There is a private road not far from here that we use for wheelies etc and the odd speed run, but going fast in a straight line bores me, give me corners any day. What I do love about the thou is the thump out of corners in almost any gear, opposed to the winding up effect of the gixxer 750.

Haven't taken this one on the track yet, I was watching some onboard footage of me at the track recently from my 750 and I was redlining it out of corners etc, but I don't think I'll be doing that on the thou just yet!!!!

APPLE

28th February 2006, 17:01

mate?who cares wot yah bike sounds like 2 cops?ride it like its suppose 2 b ridden HARD?7fiddys love it man

SPman

28th February 2006, 17:05

.. What I do love about the thou is the thump out of corners in almost any gear, opposed to the winding up effect of the gixxer 750.

So do I...they may be a bit slower into the corners than a 750, but they are shit loads faster coming out!

Zed

28th February 2006, 17:18

my bike does 107kph in first.. the thous are geared for something stupid like 140 in first...I've purposely had my bike up to 130 in 1st and close to 200 in 2nd just to check out how fast it will go in those gears, so i guess i could say i have used all available power...but there's more to using the power of the bike than just reving it out in a straight line.

The track is certainly a great place to experiment with how much of your bikes power you can use, you should try it sometime Lazy7! :spudbn:

notme

28th February 2006, 17:19

Lazy7, whereabouts in Dorkland are ya? Post an idea of area, and I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions for "quiet" roads.

I'm in East Aucks/Botany area, and luckily I'm 5 mins from roads that are generally fast, clean, and in a good state of repair. One of my fave loops is thru clevedon to Maraetai and back, another is Clevedon, Kawakawa Bay and back, and the longer one is thru Kaiaua.

Gremlin used to have some favourite roads around here as well (Sandstone road mr G?) but I have forbidden him to ride them anymore as his bike is a yukky colour, and I keep seeing a red/black CBR600RR around the same roads, plus a few other regulars who I have waved over and had a chat with but they aren't KB members.

R1madness

28th February 2006, 18:35

Go hard man. The answer is to case the road you are on for an hour or 2 by crusing it up and down with you and a couple of buddys. Then, when you are convinced you are "safe" just go for it. I have a few roads down here that are suitable but its too risky to name them as it attracts the wrong sort of people :Police: . Not that the guys/girls wearing blue that regularly visit here would use the information but .....

Lazy7

28th February 2006, 19:14

BEAMER89

28th February 2006, 19:19

[QUOTE=onearmedbandit]. There is a private road not far from here that we use for wheelies etc and the odd speed run, but going fast in a straight line bores me, give me corners any day.

Hay OAB, Were r these private roads. love 2 have a play someday :niceone:

Sutage

28th February 2006, 20:04

radar detector

Finn

28th February 2006, 20:18

Being the owner of the fastest, most powerful litre bike in the jap range, I can tell you that it seems a bit over the top when you first own one. But when you get used to it you find that they're very ridable in everyday situations and having all that power (in my case a ridiculous amount) on tap is a shit load of fun, particulary on the open road and especially 1st, 2nd & 3rd. Oh yes, a radar detector is a must and you've gotta have a good eye for when it's safe to let her rip.

Lazy7

28th February 2006, 20:25

kiwifruit

28th February 2006, 20:25

"fastest, most powerful litre bike in the jap range"

finn, u crack me up man

WINJA

28th February 2006, 20:26

Okay - another dumbass and probably quite niave post of mine but i can't figure this out.

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do you guys on your R1's and GSXR1000's ever actually ring them out on the road???
YES , AND I USE BIKES LIKE YOURS AS CANNON FODDER

WINJA

28th February 2006, 20:28

Being the owner of the fastest, most powerful litre bike in the jap range.
NICE , DID YOU TRADE UP TO THE 01 GIXXER1000?

Finn

28th February 2006, 20:35

hows a radar detector going to help you at 200+?

it will start beeping. in the time it takes you to reach for the brake, you're already passing the parked cop car before even slowing down. I guess in that situation you probably wouldnt slow down?

which is ridiculous in its self.

do those radar detectors have an ear piece so you can hear them? or are you just meant to be paying attention to a flashing light on the dash at 200?

Mate if you're doing 200+ and you're pinged, the break lever is the last thing you wanna reach for. In this case the radar detector ~250 grams makes an excellent missile and if you score a direct hit it buys you some time.

A HARD system is a wireless light in your helmet which goes off. A good radar doesn't give you a licenses to speed, it just evens up the odds a bit.

Finn

28th February 2006, 20:41

NICE , DID YOU TRADE UP TO THE 01 GIXXER1000?

I'm not giving up that easy. The current output of my Honda is 240. If you don't believe me, have a look for yourself.

And you doubted me.

Lazy7

28th February 2006, 20:51

Mate if you're doing 200+ and you're pinged, the break lever is the last thing you wanna reach for. In this case the radar detector ~250 grams makes an excellent missile and if you score a direct hit it buys you some time.

A HARD system is a wireless light in your helmet which goes off. A good radar doesn't give you a licenses to speed, it just evens up the odds a bit.

yeah, i'm not suggesting speed. just wondering how to use the bike to its fullest without breaking the law... too much.

i guess the answer is going around corners. but going in a straight line is so much easier! :slap:

limbimtimwim

28th February 2006, 20:56

So where do you guys find that you actually use the power? i still haven't made the bike truly scream. everything else around me just movesI pin the throttle exiting round-a-bouts, traffic lights, straight bits, exiting corners, around corners, up hills, down hills, the footpath outside my house going onto the road.

Pretty much anywhere. I think the only situation I have not pinned the throttle is my backyard.

Oh, and gravel or dirt.

But then, I have a 400. :shake:

beyond

28th February 2006, 21:09

Well, the latest R1's actually do 174kmh in first!!

Those I know who own them, say they could never safely use the full potential on the road, but ideal for track use and then it depends on the track, if it's a fast or slow track.

Most the new thou's are now limited to 300kmh (186mph) but when you can do those figures in third or fourth, you know the bike can be a lot quicker than that.

There's straights around Auckland, (South out my way) that are on back roads and generally safe to top your bike out on but I wouldn't recommend
it due to several factors:
1. Farmers and all the add on's that go with them, like dogs, cows, tractors, cow shit etc,
2. The state of the roads are always changing because of the above and a slight ripple can become a launching platform at those speeds.
3. Dumb birds, like Pukekos that hear you coming and for some reason believe they are safer flying out from cover directly into your path. One of these will easily take you off your bike at anything above 180kmh.
4. Wind sheer between hedges or shelter belts. Riders and bikes don't like disappearing into roadside ditches and drains at 300kmh.

Having said all that. I took my 14 up to 250kmh on one of these said straights several times. That was fun and gave the neck muscles a real good work out.

The old saying is true though. If you have that sort of power between your legs, you're gonna use it. The question is when?

kiwifruit

28th February 2006, 21:12

"Well, the latest R1's actually do 174kmh in first!!"

w000t!!
are you sure?
thats nuts:Punk:

beyond

28th February 2006, 21:17

Yep, they do. Ideal for the Coro loop. Just leave them in first :banana:

kiwifruit

28th February 2006, 21:20

thats completely insaine!
so is it a 6 speed? or 3? :lol:

APPLE

28th February 2006, 21:22

"Well, the latest R1's actually do 174kmh in first!!"

w000t!!
are you sure?
thats nuts:Punk:
yeh i think hes right mate i hav herd that aye?between 160 and 180 in 1st gear?Dam?i gotta get me one?:cool:

beyond

28th February 2006, 21:25

Six speed. Having ridden one on the road, there's not a lot of point of revving them past 7-8,000rpm in most riding conditions. They rev to 14,000rpm redline and sound magnificent over 7,000rpm.

onearmedbandit

28th February 2006, 21:38

300km/h in 3rd or 4th? Huh?

sugilite

28th February 2006, 21:44

OK, track days and club racing are the obvious choices....
However, if that is not an option, a quiet rural road, ride it slowly 1st to check it for dangers, turn around and cut loose!

loosebruce

28th February 2006, 21:49

Main reason for the tall gearing in most morden litre bikes is it does tame em down a fair bit, best thing to do is drop a tooth from stock, that sorts most of em out.
I'm divded on the whole radar issue too, some people swear by em, me i can't see the point in them, each to there own i guess.

loosebruce

28th February 2006, 21:50

300km/h in 3rd or 4th? Huh?

Yea i know a K5 1000 hits 250kph on the limiter in 3rd gear, thanks for the test ride Haldanes :scooter: crazy shit huh. Love it..............

kiwifruit

28th February 2006, 22:08

yeh 250 sure, but 300??? (in 3rd or 4th)
seems a little far fetched

maybe im behind the times? :P

Toast

28th February 2006, 22:15

I hate riding in the city. It sucks arse. I have a couple of roads that I know well, which let me push the bike relatively hard and in relative safety (enough vision to spare). To really give 'em heaps though, the track is the only place.

sugilite

28th February 2006, 22:34

Shadows

28th February 2006, 23:33

in new market and west auckland. scenic drive is nice. its a good road to go on because most of the corners are reasonably tight and you can have fun without breaking the law... too much.

but i think you've answered my question. i think i read somewhere that you dont need more than 100hp in a road bike and i think tend to agree.

my old 400 was almost more fun because i COULD ring it out. :innocent:

Your dilemma is one of the main reasons I ordered an HD and not a sportsbike capable of twice the speed for half the price. I can still fang and hang the thing but because it doesn't have the rocket ship speeds and spectacular handling of a race bred bike I can do it all at something vaguely resembling the speed limit.

scumdog

28th February 2006, 23:51

my old 400 was almost more fun because i COULD ring it out. :innocent:

I thought I was the only one who thought like that, I like the Sporty 'cause I CAN wring it out a fair bit.
The F100 on the other hand is o.t.t. when it comes to wringing it out, almost not as much fun. (ALMOST)

Brian d marge

1st March 2006, 01:57

the reason I own an Enfield is that I wouldnt be here to type this message, In order for you to receive this message ..IF I did own a 1000 cc sports bike, you would have to be using someone like Doris Stokes, or other pots that were cracked.
The Enfield rattles along at a max of 125 ( ish cos the speedo has been Eating the yellow snow... right there where the Huskys go and is prancing all over the place ..)
Officer I was doing between 80 and 140 KM/hr is actually a valid Argument on an Enfield ....

I remember back in the day when the VFR400 came out there was a factory kit that you could purchase ( we fitted one to some geezer who raced at the Isle of Man, it made the bugger rev , NOW that power you could use ...

Here in Japan the Motorway speeds are ummm well I dont actually know , I see the signs for 80 kph , but most people sit between 100 and 140 and yes they wring out the sports bikes ... My mate going to work every day sits around 180 on the blackbird

I am quite happy toddling around at 100 , fast enough for me .....

Stephen

Mooch

1st March 2006, 06:09

keDon't ride a 1000 , but Wellingtons not too bad. Wairapapa Motorcyle Club runs a few closed road events , Don't have to worry about walking home through loss of licence.

I'm hoping to start doing track days this year , Hopefully will be able to get to one of Frosty's trackdays to get started. I'd be a hipocrite if I say I'd didn't give it a nudge now and then , but I use the close road club days for the maxing stuff. I hope to do the hill climb next year , looks like I' not back in time for this year. http://www.cdd.co.nz/hillclimb.htm

Your right about smaller CC bikes , Use to enjoy using 2 strokes in thrash manner , These days in "PC" NZ you'd still lose your license on a small bike.
I see italy put it's speed limit up to 150kmh , they did this for the reason that faster drivers are more awhere

Motu

1st March 2006, 07:10

I thought I was the only one who thought like that, I like the Sporty 'cause I CAN wring it out a fair bit.
The F100 on the other hand is o.t.t. when it comes to wringing it out, almost not as much fun. (ALMOST)

I ride a 225cc bike on the road these days,and it's got far too much power for me to exract it's full potential,even on sealed roads.A bike 5 times the capacity and power?? Why?

kiwifruit

1st March 2006, 07:10

thanks for that link Mooch,
looks like an awesome event,
Now, i have less than 2 weeks to grow the balls to enter!:shit:

is anyone else going?

Lou Girardin

1st March 2006, 07:29

hows a radar detector going to help you at 200+?

It can pick up plod well before he sees you, then you can drop a lot of speed, or wind on some more. As the fancy takes you.

Edbear

1st March 2006, 07:34

The old saying is true though. If you have that sort of power between your legs, you're gonna use it. The question is when?

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Edbear

1st March 2006, 07:47

yeh i think hes right mate i hav herd that aye?between 160 and 180 in 1st gear?Dam?i gotta get me one?:cool:
The K5 Gixxer recently won the 0-100mph-0 race against the cars in Europe. Had to slightly over-rev to do it in 1st gear only. Think it was all over in about 10.4sec.! These are seriously fast bikes and I heard the R1 was peaking at 164kph in first at redline. Owners of these bikes, (if they are honest and not bragging outrageously) should be able to confirm these figures. I am often told it's time to upgrade the old F to something bigger, but honestly, when you can accelerate up the Viaduct in fifth from 100 to 180 without breaking a sweat where do you use the extra? I enjoy being able to happily pootle along at the speed limit or thereabouts but have considerable power avilable should I want to pass a row of slower traffic in short order. I dont worry about speed cameras but there are places in remote rural areas where it is safe to stretch the legs a bit. Everything that's been said about public roads and the risks are well noted. Came across a tractor turning right across the road on a corner the other week. HAd I been cranking along instead of being around the legal limit, it could have been interesting! The track is really the only place to use all the power of a modern bike, even mine!

XTC

1st March 2006, 07:55

I use ALL of my 40odd horsepower daily..... And my bike can prabably do 50kmh in first :argh:

DEATH_INC.

1st March 2006, 08:08

In stock form the thous aren't that powerful, you can give 'em shit a lot of the time. Like lb sez if you got 174k in first you need to look at gearing, I think you'll find it makes it a lot more fun.....

ZeroIndex

1st March 2006, 08:37

haha, test your bike how Ghostrider does (refering to Police Taunts from GhostRider 2) He is one crazy bastard..... especially on the turbo 'busa

imdying

1st March 2006, 09:16

Most the new thou's are now limited to 300kmh (186mph) but when you can do those figures in third or fourth, you know the bike can be a lot quicker than that.Wicky 300 in third or fourth! I want one of those!

Drunken Monkey

1st March 2006, 09:38

...A bike 5 times the capacity and power?? Why?

For the same reason they put a jet engine on a bike...because you can.

Lazy7

1st March 2006, 09:47

Well my first bike was the ZXR400R and i think because it was the R model it had taller gearing. it was perfect. use to do 110 in first gear, which was fantastic for getting on motorway onramps. You could wind it all the way up to 10k where it would start to scream and hold it to just past 14 and you'd be at the end of the on ramp and doing 110 and that was perfect.

but this new bike, tis too quick. first is over and done with in a heart beat, i'm already doing 110 and only half way down the onramp. you pinch 2nd and give it another blat and its all over for you if a cop sees you.

i guess i'm not complaining about it. its great to have the power. especially if you need it in a tight situation.

i guess i will just have to wait till i am better at going around corners and take it to a track day. its meant to be a pretty good bike for going around corners. hopefully i will be able to do it justice one day!

avrflr

1st March 2006, 09:50

You're cheating yourself if you have any kind of sportsbike and you don't at least try a trackday. I reckon they are more fun than you can ever have on the road and you can use full power quite a bit :)
I don't use full power much on the road, occasionally I'll keep it pinned in 2nd till redline on a motorway on ramp just for a giggle. IMO litre bikes are cool because they still handle great but they have heaps more grunt than smaller sports bikes so you don't have to change gears as much. Makes for a more relaxed ride when you aren't caning it.
I sped past a hiway patrol the other day and he didn't even chase me, reckon he knew he was beaten. If you know the roads and you can't out run a Holden, your bike licence should be revoked:devil2:

Fishy

1st March 2006, 10:26

I redline the crap out of my bike all the time even going to the dairy, but its a slow Honda so I'm never going very fast.

jonbuoy

1st March 2006, 13:21

Yeah I don't think I'd trust myself with a four cylinder thou. The VTR's just enough for me to be able to wring its neck happily. Maybe another 10HP would be nice. Straight line speeds some peoples buzz I can get that, I like the corners (even if she is a bit wayward in them....) Just choose your roads to suit your riding. Depends how much you need your licence, personally I've never been over 220KPH on the road, things happen pretty quickly, see how far it takes you to stop from that speed.

beyond

1st March 2006, 13:35

Yep, this is what happens when things turn to custard.

Attached pics:
The motorcycle is inside the car. A picture is worth a thousand words.
The Honda rider was traveling at such a "very high speed", his reaction time
was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident.

Swedish Police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h (155mph) before the bike hit the slow moving car side-on at an intersection. At that speed, they predicted
that the rider's reaction time (once the vehicle came into view) wasn't
sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes. The car had two
passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them. The
Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10
feet from where the collision took place.

All three involved (two in car and rider) were killed instantly. This
graphic demonstration was placed at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the
Swedish Police and Road Safety Department. The sign above the display
also noted that the rider had only recently obtained his license.

At 250 KM (155 mph) the operator is traveling at 227 feet per second. With normal reaction time to SEE-DECIDE-REACT of 1.6 seconds the above operator would have traveled over 363 feet while making a decision on what
actions to take. In this incident the Swedish police indicate that no actions were taken.

Fishy

1st March 2006, 13:37

Saw those pics last year, apparently he was a learner (on an RC45). Recipe for disaster if you are joe bloggs.

ZeroIndex

1st March 2006, 13:40

Holy crap... that makes you think

Fishy

1st March 2006, 13:41

Yeah, makes me think...Im hungry again. Time for some food and a coffee.

Kornholio

1st March 2006, 14:04

The sunny Coromandel-the ideal place to thrash the piss out of your 750 in every gear :D

XTC

1st March 2006, 16:30

Saw those pics last year, apparently he was a learner (on an RC45). Recipe for disaster if you are joe bloggs.
No that was a mock up..... Was all bullshit for shock value.

pritch

1st March 2006, 19:30

I ride a 225cc bike on the road these days,and it's got far too much power for me to exract it's full potential,even on sealed roads.A bike 5 times the capacity and power?? Why?

Yeah, I'm still sort of lusting after a 250 2 smoke for the occasional fun ride and perhaps to remind me of the importance of good lines etc.

The Hornet is fine for when I'm feeling fat and lazy
(most of the time).

crash harry

1st March 2006, 19:41

Main reason for the tall gearing in most morden litre bikes is it does tame em down a fair bit...

I think it's also got a lot to do with 0-100mph times for the old showroom dragrace. If there's no gear change in there, the 0-100mph is gonna be faster. I think that's why all the new thous do just over 100mph in first.

jonbuoy

1st March 2006, 20:03

A lot of guys use them to their full potential on trackdays too, sometimes riding something bigger and more intimidating does make you a better rider. Your first ride on a small bike feels pretty powerfull and almost intimidating, if after upgrading you went back to it now it would probably feel like a moped. Would love to try one, be too hard to go back once you've had that taste though......

mini_me

1st March 2006, 20:14

No that was a mock up..... Was all bullshit for shock value.

and a dam waste of a castrol rc45
bastards

scumdog

1st March 2006, 23:25

I ride a 225cc bike on the road these days,and it's got far too much power for me to exract it's full potential,even on sealed roads.A bike 5 times the capacity and power?? Why?

Two up, tent and all the gear for a week, about 200 gazzilion kg of C.Bs bits'n'bobs, overtaking a B train on a long up-hill and you'll see WHY!!!

Gremlin

2nd March 2006, 01:05

Gremlin used to have some favourite roads around here as well (Sandstone road mr G?) but I have forbidden him to ride them anymore as his bike is a yukky colour...
This coming from a banana mobile rider?? :gob: Boy have you got nerve... And why are you posting here?? 7 is talking about using a bikes full power safely, you can just about achieve speed limits... :nya:

And there is no sandstone road, I know nothing of it, and any cars in the vicinity are obviously using another road :yes:

but this new bike, tis too quick. first is over and done with in a heart beat, i'm already doing 110 and only half way down the onramp. you pinch 2nd and give it another blat and its all over for you if a cop sees you.
err... yah, thats about all you get to do around town... but tis fun... basically full power until you reach the speed limit, then jump up a few gears...

Just remember (this might help you slow down too :blah: ) that the bike will swallow fuel riding it hard around town, not to mention the tyre use as well. If you're a poor student like me, then that helps slow you down a bit :doobey:

buellbabe

2nd March 2006, 06:19

Phew! After reading all that I had almost forgotten what the original question was! Where do you R1's and Gixxers use the power? Well I don't have either of those but I can tell ya this, I love the feel of powering out of a corner on the Buell plus she gets a fair amount of 'ringing out' chasing my mate who IS on a gixxer. My top speed is only a measly 220 (maybe 230/240 downhill with a tail wind) but big deal, I enjoy the power (read: awesome torque!) that my bike has down low and mid-range. Thought about a Power Commander for it at one point so i could get some extra top end but that would have meant low-mid compromise and thats where the FUN is as far as I am concerned. It comes down to how ya ride and what ya want out of ya bike!

Kornholio

2nd March 2006, 17:47

This coming from a banana mobile rider?? :gob: Boy have you got nerve... And why are you posting here?? 7 is talking about using a bikes full power safely, you can just about achieve speed limits... :nya:

Watch those 'bananas' mate they come in 7fiddys too.... ill show ya round coromandel on a 3/4 litre and watch those thous poo their pants :D

Flame on................

Two Smoker

2nd March 2006, 18:27

On the road... I dont use all the power anymore... You either do stupid speeds, or wheelies...

I hate riding my GSX-R in town, because you have to slip the clutch until at least 20-30kmh... and you dont get out of 3rd.

Now I only use the power to pass cars... I do all the other stuff on the track only...

mikey

2nd March 2006, 18:35

i save it for this street in petone where the retirement village is. next to a little school. an church. an library.
way more fun entertaqining with an audience

EZAS

2nd March 2006, 19:24

i save it for this street in petone where the retirement village is. next to a little school. an church. an library.
way more fun entertaqining with an audience

I prefer the Takapuna Police station, cos its just around the corner from the North Shore Hospital, the audience there always seem speechless (It might be the tubes hanging out of the throat?)

Best place for a Kane is between Silverdale and Oteha Valley Road (motorway).

Toast

2nd March 2006, 21:25

Best place for a Kane is between Silverdale and Oteha Valley Road (motorway).

You have got to be taking the piss...that's one of two places I've had a speeding ticket in my life...it's always full of cops...even at dark. But then ofcourse it is, it's one of the safest bits of road around.

JohnBoy

3rd March 2006, 15:38

mehh... you city dwellers!! i live in the sticks.... most of the time its gets full noise where ever i ride... worst case is that you hit a shitty cow crossing on a blind corner... not cool!:ride:

DirtMad

3rd March 2006, 20:58

You can never have too much power :niceone: even if you dont use it, knowing its at your disposal is bliss :msn-wink:

Pathos

3rd March 2006, 22:07

This is y I am not really interested in a 1000.

Half the fun on a bike is hearing it scream through the gears. On my 150 I can do this around town without breaking any laws. Anything over 250cc and I got to leave town. I don't suppose theres too many gears on a modern 600cc before it hits 150...

Zed

3rd March 2006, 22:46

I don't suppose theres too many gears on a modern 600cc before it hits 150...You can quite comfortably change into 6th gear going 60kmph if you want, and you can take it up to 100kmph in 1st if you want, that's how good the modern 600's are! The 1000's don't like the low speeds as much, but once you get out on the open roads or the track they prove their worth over and over again. The power of the modern 600-1000cc motorcycle is addictive - that's part of the enjoyment!! :Punk:

kiwifruit

4th March 2006, 11:47

This is y I am not really interested in a 1000.

in time you will yern for more power
once i felt the power of a big bike i never wanted to go back
its not compulsory to open it up all the time
but the feeling of the thing piviting over the rear wheel when u do open it up is very addictive
modern 1000s are very simalar to a 600 handling wise
not much heavier, but lots more power

SPman

5th March 2006, 20:28

modern 1000s are very simalar to a 600 handling wise

No they're not. I find the 1000 quite different to the 750 or 600....particularly in the tighter stuff.Too twitchy on the power, turn in not as quick, rather nerve wracking at times.......... In the more open stuff - its still quite different....it just fucks off over the horizon!

Motu

5th March 2006, 20:50

in time you will yern for more power
once i felt the power of a big bike i never wanted to go back

In time you might also yearn for less - I've been all over the place as far as power goes,it's just never been the reason why I choose a particular bike...that's usualy based on price.I also suspect a lot of people buy a bike for the image it projects.....but you didn't hear that from me..ok?

kiwifruit

5th March 2006, 20:58

ok :)

Kornholio

5th March 2006, 22:29

No they're not. I find the 1000 quite different to the 750 or 600....particularly in the tighter stuff.Too twitchy on the power, turn in not as quick, rather nerve wracking at times.......... In the more open stuff - its still quite different....it just fucks off over the horizon!

And what lesson have we learnt here??????

Lazy7

5th March 2006, 22:42

And what lesson have we learnt here??????

that a 600 is quick and nimble through the corners but not enough power for the straights...

that a 1000 is hugely fast in the straight stuff but bit more of a handfull in the corners.

that a 750 is the perfect mix of the two and i own the best bike in the universe?

haha. who am i kidding, i'm not fast on the straights OR quick through the corners. i reckon i could drive a honda civic faster than i can ride my bike.

Kornholio

5th March 2006, 23:01

that a 750 is the perfect mix of the two and i own the best bike in the universe?

haha. who am i kidding, i'm not fast on the straights OR quick through the corners. i reckon i could drive a honda civic faster than i can ride my bike.

You got the wrong sort of 750 mate..............

Drunken Monkey

6th March 2006, 08:47

I second that ^^^^^^^^^

Mooch

6th March 2006, 12:09

Might as well put in the boot and make it "Third that" :drinknsin

Drunken Monkey

6th March 2006, 14:49

Might as well put in the boot and make it "Third that" :drinknsin

Pah! You and you're breaky downy over priced Italian thingy can join him.

GSXR FOREVER!!!! :bleh:

Lazy7

6th March 2006, 15:12

blah blah blah. its all i hear from you gixxer riders ;)

Zed

6th March 2006, 16:05

Pah! You and you're breaky downy over priced Italian thingy can join him.

GSXR FOREVER!!!! :bleh:Lol, if I recall correctly DM you've shelled out a fair whack of cash to keep your gixxer running toooooo!! :bleh:

GIXser

6th March 2006, 21:02

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Funny, when i first got my Gix" i thought i had to race everything on the road, and i did, i thought i was the "bomb"( i actually was a dickhead)(that was about a year ago),, iv'e slowed down now and i pick my moments ,,very carefully,, i did a trackday a little way back,, and let it loose there,, i guess iv'e pushed the bike to its limit and dont really need to do this now,, also there are the fuzz to think about,, and unfortunate events around town, like people, cars , etc,, instead concentrate on your bike handling skills, this doesnt just mean" go hell for leather" it means looking at lines, observing whats around ya''etc,,

(fuck i sound like 5-0.......)

anyway for whats its worth" thats my view"
either way take care and safe riding--:rolleyes:

race_demon

18th March 2006, 13:26

recklace acceleration! just say the clutch cable snapped joke my brother is a 31 year old computer company owner anotherbig.com and he ahs a son called luke my nephew and a diesel peugoet 306 estate (witha big sound system) and he goes to clients houses to fix their pcs, soudns borign right? well his other road vehicle is a 1997 yamaha fzr 600 (1997) and it has 120HP and today he had racing cams fitted :-O god knwswhat bhp that is now and he sitll pops round on it with luke on the abk and rides to clients houses and i thought my racing kdxengien was powerful thats shut me up

Bonez

18th March 2006, 14:36

In time you might also yearn for less - I've been all over the place as far as power goes,it's just never been the reason why I choose a particular bike...that's usualy based on price.I also suspect a lot of people buy a bike for the image it projects.....but you didn't hear that from me..ok?

I too am always out for a bargain. Mind you today I saw a nice black 2 valve Guzzi Sport, I think it was. Got me thinking...............................
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I'd look good on that.

Then I flash to the fun my Ducati riding mate is having lately with his electrics. Reality sinks in, once again. :pinch: Have the Italian m/c repair kit handy for tomorrows ride -peice of rope.:niceone: just in case.(p/t)

Motocycling is just not about power, top speed, popping wheelies blah blah. It's about becoming one with a machine, the rides, experiences and the folk you meet while doing so.

SPman

18th March 2006, 15:26

In time you might also yearn for less - I've been all over the place as far as power goes,it's just never been the reason why I choose a particular bike...that's usualy based on price.I also suspect a lot of people buy a bike for the image it projects.....but you didn't hear that from me..ok? Ive been eyeing up things like the new Bonneville street scrambler.....:o
I think my horizons are shifting again in what I want....a DT230 or similar, would probably be fine, actually and, I'd love to try a Cagiva Mito......

And what lesson have we learnt here?????? No lesson - I knew it when I bought the 1000. The 750 is sweeeet. I just wanted a challenge and they were about the same price!
There is a new 675 that looks......interesting, though.......

Toast

18th March 2006, 18:45

Motocycling is just not about power, top speed, popping wheelies blah blah. It's about becoming one with a machine, the rides, experiences and the folk you meet while doing so.

Totally agree, it's so rewarding when you feel like you're one with the bike, working with it, letting it operate the way it wants to, not fighting it. Having said that, I got to a point with my first big bike where I felt that I wasn't learning as much as I used to, and wanted something different, something with higher limits on which to learn more.

Biff

18th March 2006, 18:48

its all i hear from you gixxer riders ;)

How they like taking it up the poop shoot?

jonbuoy

19th March 2006, 19:36

Ive been eyeing up things like the new Bonneville street scrambler.....:o
I think my horizons are shifting again in what I want....a DT230 or similar, would probably be fine, actually and, I'd love to try a Cagiva Mito......

They look like a hoot! Aprilia used to do a sharp 125 as well, I spose they are all long bent/seized up.

Madness

19th March 2006, 20:17

i save it for this street in petone where the retirement village is. next to a little school. an church. an library.
way more fun entertaqining with an audience

Find another street in Petone!! Even better, go over to Wainui ya noisy bastard!!:bash:

Toast

19th March 2006, 20:18

They look like a hoot! Aprilia used to do a sharp 125 as well, I spose they are all long bent/seized up.

There's one on trademe now if you search....going for about $4.5k I think. I'm real tempted, but trying to stay out of (more) debt.

Madness

19th March 2006, 20:37

haha. who am i kidding, i'm not fast on the straights OR quick through the corners. i reckon i could drive a honda civic faster than i can ride my bike.

Man, If you think you could drive a Honda Civic faster than your ZX7 there a couple of things you should consider.

1) You should get the hell out of Jaffaland for just a couple of days. Find some real roads with corners. You might learn a thing or two and even gain some confidence.

2) Your bike has the ability to keep up with most of the litre bikes in real every day conditions. Look at Craig Shirrifs on his sixhundy as an example.

3) Most police officers will pull over a speeding Honda Civic before a motorcycle in similar conditions. I have found that riding with confidence goes a long way with even just a little self-control.

4) Who really gives a rats-arse how fast a bike goes in first gear. Mind you, going from one red light to the next must be a common occurence in Auckland, I see its merits.

5) Motorcycling is about having FUN. Have fun the way you want to. I personally have more fun on the tight & twisty hills that we are blessed with than going flat out in a straight line.

6) Come to Wellington. We have this large area at our disposal for hooliganish behaviour. It is called the Wairarapa.