Eating Disorders

[shazzygirl]

Writing my story. Wish to chat with others who have survived!

[SARGE]

Writing my story. Wish to chat with others who have survived!



i have an eating disorder...


too many donuts, beer, waffles, pork chops..Pringles and Pizza..


and thats just breakfast :rofl:

[SimJen]

Same here Sarge.....;)
But this is a serious matter and shouldn't be joked about.
Good on you Shazzygirl for beating it.

[Edbear]

I used to have this saying about leftovers. "If it's going to go to waste, it may as well go to mine!" Of course it did, and now I'm struggling to reverse the process!!! Seriously though, good on you for beating it and hope you find the story telling cathartic. Don't personally know of anyone with or having beaten it, but with a wife and two daughters I have some understanding of the issues you face(d).

[C_A]

good work, go feilding :D

[Grahameeboy]

i have an eating disorder...


too many donuts, beer, waffles, pork chops..Pringles and Pizza..


and thats just breakfast :rofl:

Sorry you deserve a red rep for that you @#$%..........sorry unlike me but my Sister had it for 14 years and this is not a light hearted matter....okay now I have said that I will take the red rep back.............bugger oh to be bad.

[Grahameeboy]

Writing my story. Wish to chat with others who have survived!

My Sister had it for 14 years and I did a lot of Charity work and visits for EDA in UK so PM me if you need any more..........

[Grahameeboy]

I used to have this saying about leftovers. "If it's going to go to waste, it may as well go to mine!" Of course it did, and now I'm struggling to reverse the process!!! Seriously though, good on you for beating it and hope you find the story telling cathartic. Don't personally know of anyone with or having beaten it, but with a wife and two daughters I have some understanding of the issues you face(d).

Sorry Edbear but you cannot have an any understanding of the issues....this is a mental illness.

[Keystone19]

Sorry Edbear but you cannot have an any understanding of the issues....this is a mental illness.

Yes, eating dosorders are a mental illness, but that does not preclude Edbear from having some understanding of the issues. Eating disorders are insidious, I can see where Edbear is coming from.

[Grahameeboy]

Yes, eating dosorders are a mental illness, but that does not preclude Edbear from having some understanding of the issues. Eating disorders are insidious, I can see where Edbear is coming from.

Sorry but have to disagree and ED's are not insidious......sorry.

[Colapop]

Well done SG.

[Grahameeboy]

Well done SG.

Ditto.....it is a hard one to heal from.......I used to visit ED wards.....a lot of girls (and some boys although not as much) commit suicide.........my Sister went missing for days sometimes.............I remember seeing flashing lights once when Dawn was missing and it turned out to be a road sweeper....I laugh now but not then.....................feel free to pm me SG if you need to eh

[SARGE]

Sorry you deserve a red rep for that you @#$%..........sorry unlike me but my Sister had it for 14 years and this is not a light hearted matter....okay now I have said that I will take the red rep back.............bugger oh to be bad.



yea.. sorry to offend the PC Brigade..

i am glad you beat the problem, but at the end of the day.. eating disorders are a self-inflicted illness, much like alchoholism, drug abuse, smoking or jogging...

[mikey]

Writing my story. Wish to chat with others who have survived!


no offence man but thats just asking for it........

ill start it off

were you a cutter to?

ediT

an were you a over eater or non eater?

an very few people actualy die from over eating or not eating, most people still live who have eating disorders, its probably a differnet mental one that sends you off the bridge or in most cases of ED females, a box of panadol, but then most survive after a stomach pumping, just fuked your liver for life. but hey. a fuked liver might weigh a few hundred grams less than a good liver!

[Grahameeboy]

yea.. sorry to offend the PC Brigade..

i am glad you beat the problem, but at the end of the day.. eating disorders are a self-inflicted illness, much like alchoholism, drug abuse, smoking or jogging...

No probs......I guess, when you really think about it, we all have compulsive disorders but ED generally tends to be a peer pressure thing and society does have a lot to answer in some cases......

KB is a compulsive disorder I guess for some but not one of the majors.......

I mean I self inflict myself by going to Church.........Mr Finn would say.....

Where does it stop.........??

[shazzygirl]

Wow, nice to know that there are some nice people out there who honestly do care.
To those that are skeptical - maybe you would like to Pm me and I will tell you exactly what it is, what it is like, and all the horrid things that this disease does to your mind, your body, your life, and your soul. Then you may be more informed and the scarcasm will be less negative.
To be informed - is to have knowledge!

[Keystone19]

Sorry but have to disagree and ED's are not insidious......sorry.

Let me reword that...Eating disorders can be insidious.

[SARGE]

im not sceptical or sarcastic.. we all make life changing desisions on a daily basis... should i have that Donut.. should i fire up this ciggy, should i have this triple shot of tequilla..

peer pressure is bollox..be happy with who and what you are and stuff what everyone else thinks

[Grahameeboy]

Let me reword that...Eating disorders can be insidious.

Cool.....I still disagree.........

[The_Dover]

Sarge, you should definitely not have that donut.

But I do feel you should share the tequila.

With me.

[Edbear]

Sorry Edbear but you cannot have an any understanding of the issues....this is a mental illness.


I appreciate it is a mental illness, and I've had a lot of experience in dealing with mental illnesses and the complex nature of their onset and treatment. I've spent many years researching the subject.While not having to face the actual problem specifically of an eating disorder, I have had to deal with daughters who were subject to the type of pressure, both without and within, as regards self image and the danger of developing such a disorder.

I have been surprised at times by the comments in this forum from members who have shown remarkable insight on certain subjects which I would have not expected going by the usual image they portray of themselves, so would be reluctant to say that any particular person wuold not have some understanding of a particular subject. If you have personal knowledge and experience of, or especially qualifications pertinent to the subject I would value your opinions.

If my initial lighthearted comments gave the impression I was making light of the problem, I certainly apologise. It is a heartrending issue for the person so afflicted and their families. I have the greatest respect for those who have either beaten or learned to control the disorder and for those professionals who work so hard to assist them.

I don't believe it is a self-inflicted disorder, either, as that may imply an action that is somewhat deliberate. Rather it stems from self-image which may be due to peer pressure, but can also come from within. One of my daughters suffered a breakdown because she was trying to be perfect and no matter what we assured her as her parents, for some reason she set unreasonably high goals and standards for herself. She eventually collapsed. To see your teenage daughter locked in her darkened room for two weeks unable to receive visitors and unable to accept reassurances is very hard for a parent. We worked closely with her Doctor and learned as much as we could about Mental Illness. Today, she is fairly well adjusted and has a wonderfully supportive husband, and she's recently become a Mum. Her efforts on her own part to learn and cope with her problem make us very proud of her. Anyone who can succeed in getting through such things is to be commended.

[Grahameeboy]

im not sceptical or sarcastic.. we all make life changing desisions on a daily basis... should i have that Donut.. should i fire up this ciggy, should i have this triple shot of tequilla..

peer pressure is bollox..be happy with who and what you are and stuff what everyone else thinks

Sadly for some, thankfully a minority, this is not true and they need help......having had a Sister who had ED and being the Father of a disabled Daughter (and dealing with a very depressed Wife who sadly left), I understand 'weakness' and am always happy to help others.

[SARGE]

i have had HEAPS of experience with ED's and Drug abuse and alchoholism..cant say i felt sorry for any of them.. i agree that once you start down that slope it is VERY hard to climb back out.. so the answer is " dont start down the slope... you know what P will do.. you know what booze will do.. smoking causes cancer etc...

there are HEAPS of resources available to research anything you want to get into.. use the info.. make up your own mind .. if Tiffany tells you its cool to make yourself puke so you can fit into the size 0 dress.. just use your brain.. shouldnt be difficult to decide...

i like Chubby Sex - Denny Crane

[Grahameeboy]

I appreciate it is a mental illness, and I've had a lot of experience in dealing with mental illnesses and the complex nature of their onset and treatment. I've spent many years researching the subject.While not having to face the actual problem specifically of an eating disorder, I have had to deal with daughters who were subject to the type of pressure, both without and within, as regards self image and the danger of developing such a disorder.

I have been surprised at times by the comments in this forum from members who have shown remarkable insight on certain subjects which I would have not expected going by the usual image they portray of themselves, so would be reluctant to say that any particular person wuold not have some understanding of a particular subject. If you have personal knowledge and experience of, or especially qualifications pertinent to the subject I would value your opinions.

If my initial lighthearted comments gave the impression I was making light of the problem, I certainly apologise. It is a heartrending issue for the person so afflicted and their families. I have the greatest respect for those who have either beaten or learned to control the disorder and for those professionals who work so hard to assist them.

I don't believe it is a self-inflicted disorder, either, as that may imply an action that is somewhat deliberate. Rather it stems from self-image which may be due to peer pressure, but can also come from within. One of my daughters suffered a breakdown because she was trying to be perfect and no matter what we assured her as her parents, for some reason she set unreasonably high goals and standards for herself. She eventually collapsed. To see your teenage daughter locked in her darkened room for two weeks unable to receive visitors and unable to accept reassurances is very hard for a parent. We worked closely with her Doctor and learned as much as we could about Mental Illness. Today, she is fairly well adjusted and has a wonderfully supportive husband, and she's recently become a Mum. Her efforts on her own part to learn and cope with her problem make us very proud of her. Anyone who can succeed in getting through such things is to be commended.

Thanks for your insight Edbear and I rapidly take my post back......my Sister had ED for 14 years, I was involved in charitable work and ward visits for the ED Association in UK so just experience.

[Cajun]

My mother bearly suvived an ED, in course of ED she had other mental problems.

Which in turn ruined our family, it was not her fault, she had been battling pretty much her whole life(was not related to peer pressure, as someone stated above), and sprouted back up due some other issues(teenage years, then came back at early 30), will keep battling it for rest of life. It as done unreserveable damage to her.

Not does it just effect the person it effects the persons family. Its hard for a child seeing there parents, pretty much, wasting away(at one stage she was 32kgs), and not caring. This has caused effects in the childens lifes, way they see world etc.

So of people posting here, please if you don't have anything helpful to say, please don't say anything, and don't open this thread any more.

[Grahameeboy]

i have had HEAPS of experience with ED's and Drug abuse and alchoholism..cant say i felt sorry for any of them.. i agree that once you start down that slope it is VERY hard to climb back out.. so the answer is " dont start down the slope... you know what P will do.. you know what booze will do.. smoking causes cancer etc...

there are HEAPS of resources available to research anything you want to get into.. use the info.. make up your own mind .. if Tiffany tells you its cool to make yourself puke so you can fit into the size 0 dress.. just use your brain.. shouldnt be difficult to decide...

i like Chubby Sex - Denny Crane

Fair enough...........

[Edbear]

Sadly for some, thankfully a minority, this is not true and they need help......having had a Sister who had ED and being the Father of a disabled Daughter (and dealing with a very depressed Wife who sadly left), I understand 'weakness' and am always happy to help others.

BINGO! Now I understand your reaction to my comments.I suspected you may have had some experience in such matters.

[Lou Girardin]

yea.. sorry to offend the PC Brigade..

i am glad you beat the problem, but at the end of the day.. eating disorders are a self-inflicted illness, much like alchoholism, drug abuse, smoking or jogging...

God forbid you say anything that might upset anyone Sarge. Have some green.

[NotaGoth]

Excuse those who have been insensitive enough to crack jokes shazzy. Eating disorders are an extremely sensitive subject. Especially when people don't understand that just out rightly telling someone to eat isn't going to help matters, and people won't even begin to understand or see the affects it can have on a person until they either go through it themselves, or watch a family member or friend go through that type of situation.

I can't say that I've seen the full blown effects of it for myself. But when I was younger and going to school I never used to eat, always weighed myself, and if I didn't feel satisfied with the weight I saw on the scales off to bed I went minus dinner. (I'll wait for the cutter comments)

Good on you for getting through it. I think its something that people need to be more aware of. People need to be made aware that yes it is ok to ask for help. Everyone is perfect and beautiful in their own way, and sticking your fingers down your throat, or starving yourself ain't going to make you any more perfect than what you already are.

Good on you for being able to admit that you have been there, and followed the long road through. Rep coming your way.

[SARGE]

God forbid you say anything that might upset anyone Sarge. Have some green.



just stating facts Lou.. i dont bow down to PC or peer pressure..


call it "Tough Love"


Shazz.. please dont take my comments as nasty or hateful... they are not meant as such.. these are MY opinions , based on the way i was raised and my life experiences..be strong, be yourself and dont let the idiot advertisers and media tell you what "Perfect " is.. you seem to be doing ok


in my first post.. i stated that i wanted to be 300 pounds by Xmas .. im serious .. its my rebellion against " Perfect"

[Grahameeboy]

just stating facts Lou.. i dont bow down to PC or peer pressure..


call it "Tough Love"


Shazz.. please dont take my comments as nasty or hateful... they are not meant as such.. these are MY opinions , based on the way i was raised and my life experiences..be strong, be yourself and dont let the idiot advertisers and media tell you what "Perfect " is.. you seem to be doing ok

You're cool Sarge.........

[SARGE]

You're cool Sarge.........


thanx Grahameboy... but again...


i could care less if i was cool because i am satisfied with who i have become..

[The_Dover]

in my first post.. i stated that i wanted to be 300 pounds by Xmas .. im serious .. its my rebellion against " Perfect"


You going on a diet then?

[Grahameeboy]

thanx Grahameboy... but again...


i could care less if i was cool because i am satisfied with who i have become..

That is what I was agreeing with.......misunderstanding, I was saying you are cool for being happy with who you are/become....

[SARGE]

You going on a diet then?



oh god ... Dover thinks im fat .. my world is over because i give 2 fucks about other peoples opinio....




wait .. no i dont ..

[oldrider]

Excuse those who have been insensitive enough to crack jokes shazzy.
Surely you weren't so naive as to post this thread on here expecting to get all praise, sympathy and understanding?
Some of the un-PC quips are just as supportive as the PC ones when you think about it. We all have our own ways of dealing with things.
Our daughter had a wee bit of bother with this problem and for me it's just as Sarge says.
It's a choice thing like smoking, drinking, drugs etc but then I'm an unfeeling stupid old black and white bastard according to her Mother.
Good on you if you have beaten something that was difficult for you to overcome but I hope you don't expect everyone to understand it. :spudwhat:
I certainly dont. :spudbn: Cheers, John.

[NotaGoth]

Surely you weren't so naive as to post this thread on here expecting to get all praise, sympathy and understanding?
Some of the un-PC quips are just as supportive as the PC ones when you think about it. We all have our own ways of dealing with things.
Our daughter had a wee bit of bother with this problem and for me it's just as Sarge says.
It's a choice thing like smoking, drinking, drugs etc but then I'm an unfeeling stupid old black and white bastard according to her Mother.
Good on you if you have beaten something that was difficult for you to overcome but I hope you don't expect everyone to understand it. :spudwhat:
I certainly dont. :spudbn: Cheers, John.


Expecting praise, sympathy and understanding? No actually. Theres someone on KB who has had the guts to come out and admit that she has been there and made it through. Isn't that how you start on your road to recovery? By admitting that you have a problem? So a child with ADHD, or tourettes made the choice to be the way that they are? Just like someone who suffers from an eating disorder? Sorry, but have a heart. It ain't as simple as it sounds.

EDIT: If shaz wants to share her story let her, it can be useful for some people. And good on her for being open and honest about an issue thats kept in the closet.

[SARGE]

Expecting praise, sympathy and understanding? No actually. Theres someone on KB who has had the guts to come out and admit that she has been there and made it through. Isn't that how you start on your road to recovery? By admitting that you have a problem? So a child with ADHD, or tourettes made the choice to be the way that they are? Just like someone who suffers from an eating disorder? Sorry, but have a heart. It ain't as simple as it sounds.

EDIT: If shaz wants to share her story let her, it can be useful for some people. And good on her for being open and honest about an issue thats kept in the closet.


no Kittie.. ADHD or Touretts is a systemic malfunction caused by an imbalance of whatever .. ED's are just a weakness or Vanity.. so yes it is fair to equate them with any smokers, drinkers or addicts.. same free choice led them here ..


Harden Up Pills are a good source of Protien

[Grahameeboy]

Surely you weren't so naive as to post this thread on here expecting to get all praise, sympathy and understanding?
Some of the un-PC quips are just as supportive as the PC ones when you think about it. We all have our own ways of dealing with things.
Our daughter had a wee bit of bother with this problem and for me it's just as Sarge says.
It's a choice thing like smoking, drinking, drugs etc but then I'm an unfeeling stupid old black and white bastard according to her Mother.
Good on you if you have beaten something that was difficult for you to overcome but I hope you don't expect everyone to understand it. :spudwhat:
I certainly dont. :spudbn: Cheers, John.

Luckily there are some people who do understand......it is personal choice so this is not a pop at you oldrider.....myself I care, understand, try to if it is new to me and help regardless..........choice is not always easy for some.

[Grahameeboy]

no Kittie.. ADHD or Touretts is a systemic malfunction caused by an imbalance of whatever .. ED's are just a weakness or Vanity..


Harden Up Pills are fattening

Okay, but then I could say that you have a weakness for not understanding others that are not as srong as you.....not a pop just an insight.......does that make sense.....sort of turning things inside out...I don't have an issues with how you are...

[NotaGoth]

I'm with you a certain way with that opinion, but when it comes to ED the difference is that the major sufferers are teenage girls, who are incredibly vulnerable to this kind of stuff whilst trying to come to terms with everything else going on in their bodies....it's not fair to equate them to smokers drinkers etc.

I have to agree with you.




Have you seen the pecking order of girls in school? If your hairs not cut just right your a geek. If your slightly biggish your a fat bitch. If your skinny or pretty your a bitch or a slut.

"hey look at this model, ain't she perfect" Its drilled into your head that what you see on the telly or in a magazine is the perfect person. Forget about all the adjustments made to their pictures to make them look good. Perfect = flawless skin and stick figure-ish body. Try telling a teenage girl that thats not the case when its crammed down their throat everywhere they look.

[Grahameeboy]

I'm with you a certain way with that opinion, but when it comes to ED the difference is that the major sufferers are teenage girls, who are incredibly vulnerable to this kind of stuff whilst trying to come to terms with everything else going on in their bodies....it's not fair to equate them to smokers drinkers etc.

I owe ya a drink Sir.................

[NotaGoth]

no Kittie.. ADHD or Touretts is a systemic malfunction caused by an imbalance of whatever .. ED's are just a weakness or Vanity.. so yes it is fair to equate them with any smokers, drinkers or addicts.. same free choice led them here ..


Harden Up Pills are a good source of Protien


A weakness or vanity??????? You are so sad its not funny.






I'm sorry but I doubt Viagra will help.

[SARGE]

Okay, but then I could say that you have a weakness for not understanding others that are not as srong as you.....not a pop just an insight.......does that make sense.....sort of turning things inside out...I don't have an issues with how you are...


nope ,.... i understand perfectly.. i just think its a cop-out

[Grahameeboy]

nope ,.... i understand perfectly.. i just think its a cop-out

For some it may well be........take my situation, I have not turned to alcohol, drugs etc so I have not copped out, I have just got on with it..........ED is a complex issue and as MisterD says we are talking about teenage girls (and some boys) who are vunerable....most survive, a few do not...guess it is life's selection.....and most come from middle class backgrounds too.

I guess we cannot generalise...

Anyway, bit nervous of bringing me SV in for service Tuesday now.......it needs love and care ya know..........................

[SARGE]

For some it may well be........take my situation, I have not turned to alcohol, drugs etc so I have not copped out, I have just got on with it..........ED is a complex issue and as MisterD says we are talking about teenage girls (and some boys) who are vunerable....most survive, a few do not...guess it is life's selection.....and most come from middle class backgrounds too.

I guess we cannot generalise...

Anyway, bit nervous of bringing me SV in for service Tuesday now.......it needs love and care ya know..........................



dont worry .. all our mechanics are members of the Green Party and take Yoga twice a week...

[Grahameeboy]

dont worry .. all our mechanics are members of the Green Party and take Yoga twice a week...

Even Trigger...........................

[The_Dover]

Especially Trigger.

[SARGE]

Even Trigger...........................


no.. he's really in touch with his feminine side though.. i caught him touching it 20 minutes ago..

[Grahameeboy]

no.. he's really in touch with his feminine side though.. i caught him touching it 20 minutes ago..

Very true..............bit like me I guess..................what an open upper eh?

[Grahameeboy]

no.. he's really in touch with his feminine side though.. i caught him touching it 20 minutes ago..

and you didn't mind him touching it!!!

[shazzygirl]

Thanks Everyone for all the comments, I have taken the time to read through them with honesty and without judgement taken.
It has been a broad spectrum of people that have commented and each of us has every right to make our feelings, and our opinions heard.
There has been no negativity taken and no miss conceptions upon my part and I thank everyone who has expressed support and caring.
Those that wish can still PM me, but I am only interested in reality, though I appreciate your opinion they will not help me with the research that I need so that I can understand the 'reasons' other sufferers choose, have survived, or are currently still battling the disease.
It has proven to me that there is still not enough public knowledge about the disease, and that is where I wish to publish my story only. So that a person who is unsure can choose to pick up the book and make themselves aware.
Much appreciated everyone
Subject is finished okay!:Offtopic:

[SARGE]

A weakness or vanity??????? You are so sad its not funny.






I'm sorry but I doubt Viagra will help.


yea kittie .. im sad... some people call it " realistic" though

(this is my "give a fuck face: ...see? ) :whocares:


no need for Viagra thank you ... could really use some ear plugs though...

[Maha]

Just read every post, and well said shazzy in your last post, seems to me that the only person getting nose out of joint in this thread ( about nothing ) comes from up north, not Feilding, and SARGE, leave kittie kattie alone she might just buy that book and eat it, when and if it gets published......:laugh:

[SARGE]

Just read every post, and well said shazzy in your last post, seems to me that the only person getting nose out of joint in this thread ( about nothing ) comes from up north, not Feilding, and SARGE, leave kittie kattie alone she might just but that book and eat it, when and if it gets published......:laugh:



Kittie and i normally get along nicely...i thought it was well understood that i am an opinionated bastard and dont really give 2 shits if i offend anyone with my opinion..


im guessing she's just in a bad mood today :brick:

[Hitcher]

I fight anorexia daily.

[Grahameeboy]

I fight anorexia daily.

It's getting late in the day isn't it.............:mega:

[SwanTiger]

Sorry but have to disagree and ED's are not insidious......sorry.

Stop saying "Sorry" repeatedly in all your posts. Are you insecure or something?

You need to kill someone, its soul refreshing.

[SARGE]

Stop saying "Sorry" repeatedly in all your posts. Are you insecure or something?

You need to kill someone, its soul refreshing.



ahhh... i love the smell of Napalm in the morning...:2thumbsup

[Grahameeboy]

Stop saying "Sorry" repeatedly in all your posts. Are you insecure or something?

You need to kill someone, its soul refreshing.

No, just polite....you analize too much.....:sherlock:

And no I have a better soul food...:moon:

[SARGE]

No, just polite....you analize too much.....:sherlock:

And no I have a better soul food...:moon:


oh Jeebus .. here we go :wait:

bet i can turn this into a REAL Shit-Fight

[Grahameeboy]

ahhh... i love the smell of Napalm in the morning...:2thumbsup

I use Nivea on my palms in the morning.......

[SARGE]

I use Nivea on my palms in the morning.......


and im the SAD one here?


real Metro-Sexual GB? hair gel.. moisturiser.. manicure..

[The_Dover]

I use Nivea on my palms in the morning.......

The Captain has just turned on the "too much information" sign.

Keep your masturbatory habits to yourself, or just PM them to poos.

[SwanTiger]

No, just polite....you analize too much.

You might be right however I personally disagree. Then again you might be wrong and plainly obvious with your character flaws.

I have plenty of flaws if you'd like a role model.


And no I have a better soul food.

Religion as your avatar suggests? Fair enough, each person has a unique way of dealing with problems (Unique, for the idiots amoung us, that is sarcasm).

[Grahameeboy]

You might be right however I personally disagree. Then again you might be wrong and plainly obvious with your character flaws.

I have plenty of flaws if you'd like a role model.



Religion as your avatar suggests? Fair enough, each person has a unique way of dealing with problems (Unique, for the idiots amoung us, that is sarcasm).

Nite nite...........................

[Maha]

you and swanny having an early night GB?....................:blip:

[SwanTiger]

you and swanny having an early night GB?....................:blip:

He couldn't affoard a night with me.

However I am in a charitable mood, so PM me your best offer.

[Maha]

He couldn't affoard a night with me.

However I am in a charitable mood, so PM me your best offer.
Well, since its an Eating Disorder thread............ 3 doz easter eggs/2doz hot cross buns (that should keep GB happy ) 3 chicken/brie/crannberry pies..... lime milkshake......... then a smoke.......:wacko:

[SwanTiger]

Well, since its an Eating Disorder thread............ 3 doz easter eggs/2doz hot cross buns (that should keep GB happy ) 3 chicken/brie/crannberry pies..... lime milkshake......... then a smoke.......:wacko:

Fark, that'll get you a weekend.

[SARGE]

c'mon... who thinks THESE chicks are sexy?.. that first chick is getting her ego stroked right now by the assclown designer who is paying her for looking like a fucking Mummy...friggin disgusting i say..

im not saying it isnt a problem.. it is .. there are ALOT of people to blame..shows like Americas Top Model, fashion magazines and designers..those idiot pop-stars and movie starlets

the person most responsible at the end of the day is the individual for being sucked in to all this bullshit.. we live in a first world country where food is abundant.. we dont live in East Africa for christs sake!!..there are no reasons for this but Ego and Vanity and lack of self image


i wear my 265 US Pounds as a badge of honor for the fact that i CAN eat when i want to.. Hell..even when i DONT want to..

im not forced to pick through trash cans for scraps .. i dont have to fight Hyenas over a dead gazelle..im not digging for roots... i go to Valentines and put the immigrant line cooks through a good workout....

[KATWYN]

..be strong, be yourself and dont let the idiot advertisers and media tell you what "Perfect " is.. you seem to be doing ok

"


You are right. Eating disorders are also about control. Having control and staying in control when everything in a persons life is falling apart as well as having the body beautiful & obtain perfection. There are many
reasons for developing an ED.

[kevie]

In all honesty ..... I think this is a thread that needs to be treated with respect.... we have a fellow member that is being open and honest and asking for assistance in her attempt to maybe greatly help someone else that has a similar situation.
And ... while some may think EDs are self inflicted and some may not....they are a VERY REAL problem to the sufferer, and these people need non judgemental friends and not people pointing the finger at them.

I dont personally know anyone with an ED but there are organizations out there that may assist in your data/fact collecting, could try ringing the hospital for details of local support groups etc for info you can use.

[Aitch]

Sorry Edbear but you cannot have an any understanding of the issues....this is a mental illness.
Good grief, what a silly thing to say!

[SARGE]

You are right. Eating disorders are also about control. Having control and staying in control when everything in a persons life is falling apart as well as having the body beautiful & obtain perfection. There are many
reasons for developing an ED.

There were some comments earlier about addictions being self inflicted. Wow,that would have to have been the most arrogant, uneducated comment (about social problems) I have ever heard relating to such issues.


ok.. on one hand you dig that comment but then you bash me as uneducated and arrogant..tell me why anyone would want to do that to themselves?... same as Heroin or P.. you know it will eventually kill you but still you put it up your nose for the instant gratification of the " High"..

i stand by "self-Inflicted".. the powers that be have thier collective fingers down the throats of every civilized woman on the planet... and the sad part is that you buy into the hype...

[Lou Girardin]

No-one starves these unfortunates. It is, by definition, self-inflicted.
The causes of it are also internal.
Perhaps we need a bit more judgement and less, " understand me, don't judge me, I'm a victim".

[SARGE]

No-one starves these unfortunates. It is, by definition, self-inflicted.
The causes of it are also internal.
Perhaps we need a bit more judgement and less, " understand me, don't judge me, I'm a victim".


hey Lou..


what happens when you foster a victim mentality under a Nana State government?

[slimjim]

most interesting topic shazz has started here, yes and i am fully aware of this eating disorder, as i was shazz's mate for six years,, through the highs and the very low's of our partnership,, and as a support person, i understand that it can only come from within that person on their choice to decide,
and to not be able to feed with love, caring,commemtent, support, rules,requirements,forcing,pushing,honestly, there is not much else a support can do, other than stand beside them and await for them, to decide:bye:

[Edbear]

Obviously Shazz was able to overcome the disorder. I would be very interested to know how she came to that point where she recognised the key. Knowledge is power, because knowledge gives choice, whereas ignorance leaves one powerless. In depression, it is necessary to be able to recognise the triggers and understand that the resultant crashing low is merely a symptom of the illness and not a reflection of reality. If you do write your story, Shaz, I'll be interested to know how you were able to learn the triggers and deal with them. Unless one has personal knowledge/experience of mental illness I guess it is hard to undertand. I used to have somewhat of a similar view to Sarge, although I always considered myself to be empathetic. ED is not a simple choice of self-infliction, neither is depression. It is a genuine illness just as any other. It also is not a sign of lack of intelligence. I used to dismiss anti-depressants as a crutch for the weak, too. I do a lot of study and research being reluctant to accept other's opinions on serious or controversial subjects regardless of how convinced they may be. My own experiences with the medical profession have left me very skeptical of the state of medical knowledge. I should have been dead on at least two occasions. Why I'm alive now is a medical mystery. The most earnest people can be completely wrong. If you are supporting someone in like situations, too, don't be too quick to assume your advice and encouragement is being completely ignored if it doesn't get the results you may desire straight away. The sufferer will be considering it in the context of their mental state at the time and with kindly repetition and acknowledgement of their opinions, time and patience can work wonders. They will be always grateful for the ones who continued to stand by them and help them through even when it may have seemed hopeless.

[Lou Girardin]

hey Lou..


what happens when you foster a victim mentality under a Nana State government?

Gone on, tell me.

[SARGE]

Gone on, tell me.



hey.. im waiting to see too!! :corn:

[inlinefour]

No-one starves these unfortunates. It is, by definition, self-inflicted.
The causes of it are also internal.
Perhaps we need a bit more judgement and less, " understand me, don't judge me, I'm a victim".

I work in an inpatient psychiatric unit, get to deal with mental illnesses all the time. As for the EDs, not its not the diet that can kill them, but the health complications that are the problem from a lack of nutrition.
Bit of mud slinging here and emotions. I actually agree with the above post, but whatever the problem, bagging those with the disorder ain't the solution. Getting the individual to admit there is a problem is half the solution. Those pictures of wimmin earlier are sick and so are those who find them attractive. However rather than being judgemental, how about helping those with a ED? Once they are ready to admit there is a problem and accept help, its a hard road to recovery. The cause is psychological and when the problem first arrives and is identified, making a big deal out it just reinforces the behaviour. Often its the only form of control the young teenager has, while trying to become independant. Very rarely EDs come about because of peer pressure, or the want to loose weight. I'd post more info but I have a broken collarbone and typing is difficult. Oh, EDs are an axis 2 mental illness for those wondering. The phrase "understand me, don't judge me, I'm a victim" is OK, provided they accept they are also the problem and seek out appropriate help. Otherwise its often a complete cop out...:weird:

[Teflon]

I understand and feel for ya. Not long ago my weight dropped bellow 100kgs, i was barely eating four meals a day. today, i'm sitting around 111kgs, eating six meals a day (about 6000 calories), and i'm starting to feel great.

It's not nice having a eating disorder. Anyone who wishes to chat, just PM me.

[marty]

Writing my story. Wish to chat with others who have survived!

sincerely hope you've put more effort into that than you did into writing your story.

btw - i beat an eating disorder last year. i was 110kg, but i just stopped eating rubbish, and started running, and got down to 90. just a matter of having some motivation to not be fat and lazy

[shazzygirl]

This has been enough please, it is hurting and I am seriously worried about the slinging that is going on.
I have suffered through this disease, and it is a disease! for over 6 years now, along with depression and the mental issues that are involved it has been a hell of a long road.
I am not over it, but I am searching for knowledge so that i can assist myself.
I am 45 kgs and over 40 years old. Not healthy at all, half my body organs have destroyed themselves, my bowels are seriously damaged, my teeth have nearly all fallen out, my skin is old before my time, my hair is stringy and breaks and falls out easily. I suffer from headaches, body aches, collapses, lack of energy, lethargy and heaps of other issues that i just don't feel this is the correct place to discuss.
When I was born I was told that I was fat, ugly and worthless, after years and years of being told that, you have only one belief, because you do not know and have not been able to learn of any other! This then becomes a mental issue correct, but it is how a human being can dictate and control with words.
The words spoken here are hurtful to others! The bruises have faded, but the words continue to sting!
There needs to be understanding of this, not ridicule and negativity.
You can not imagine what it is like, and my quest was to chat with others that have been through it, not have to read the crap.
I thank all those who have shown compassion sincerely and stick a finger in the eye of those smart arses, cause people like you make this disease hide, and therefore people die because they are so afraid of judgements.
I did not need to hide anymore and therefore I will stand up and say ... Hi I am Shazz and I have bulimia.

[Kendog]

Good on ya shazz.:sunny:

[Scorpygirl]

Shazzygirl - thanks for posting up what you have. Kia kaha, kia toa, kia manawanui - bring strong, be brave, be steadfast. :grouphug:

[surfchick]

Hi shazz- i did a doco. about 7 years ago on a buddy who'd been annorexic for over 12 years. was an inpatient at manawaroa, then dn. south, then an outpatient... lovely woman who was formerly a school teacher. one hard thing about it for according to her was that she wore out many of her friends-who couldn't manage the constant suicide attempts that went with it. then eventually her only real consistant care was from people who were payed to do it in institutions... her depression and suicide attempts and eventually attacks on orderlies resulted in over 1000 paramedic call-outs over the years. she had a period of relative wellness for 2 years in between, but sadly relapsed. she had some of the organ collapses you describe and then some... but eventually (last year) she did take herself into the next life under extremely horrific circumstances. (actually in your area/ manawatu). it's a terrible disorder and a total robber of the joys of life- and whatever you've managed to beat of it- is good. these forums are tricky sometimes - w a few boystrous lads and lassies - but good on you for posting & if you want the doco i can send it down.

i just think we're all in various states of disrepair in this madhouse world & who's to judge?

[KATWYN]

... Hi I am Shazz and I have bulimia.

SHAZZY
I think its cool that you are at a point where you feel you have conquered this disease - but sometimes the rest of the worlds own time frame to understand what you have been through isn't the same as your time frame (if ever).
Therefore when you are bold to announce to the rest of the world (i.e., Kiwibiker site) what you have overcome...you will get an amount of encouragement but equally an amount of discouraging comments - so be aware when going into the full arena of society and making such an announcement to them that they may not feel the same way as you do or be empathetic and happy about it. I think the disease will always be hidden regardless of peoples reactions to it.

I'm sorry you had this. But I personally think you have made a great achievement - such an announcement even to your closest freinds/family takes a lot of courage!

PM me if you want to chat privately

Katie

[kevie]

I have recently had the privelage to have met Shazzy, and yeh .... shes been/going through a lot and .... looking past what shes going through to look at Shazzy I saw one of the most awesome people I have met in a long time.
I saw someone that has been through things you wouldnt wish on your worst enemy yet shes caring, hospitable, soft and sweet and Im proud to have met her.

She has asked that the posts be ceased and I think as fellow bikers we should have more respect and stop the 'seemingly critical' comments.
I personally believe that everyone of us has issues in our lives and I have the fortunate position of remembering the 'hippy era' where people embraced others and loved them for who they are not how they looked, what they wore, what they believed, what they done. I think society could learn an important lesson from the socalled "rejects of the 60s" where they saw others as people and embraced them.
So a BIG HUG to you Shaz, you have a vision and a dream, one that will help others, go for it and I hope there are others that will support and encourage you in it.

[Ixion]

Thread locked in accordance with wishes of OP. Any issues, PM me.

EDIT. Unlocked again, hopefully things have quietened down now. But please respect the feeling of those involved, folks.