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Indiana_Jones
11th April 2006, 19:59
Ok, my dail-up net was shite as. Kept disconnecting and when it did, connected rather slow.

So we get broadband with ihug, get the telescum guys to do the wiring shite, but wait, and we get a letter saying welcome to boradband etc but wait, they forgot to order us a modem, useless c*nts :wait:

So we get the modem, set it up, try to use it, no signal? :p, try again for like 30mins, then for some reason it goes. It works for the day. The next day it doesn't work until like 8:30pm, I had given up and went out to dinner, and then it was working when I got back. And on the 10th I worked for the morning, then died. Hasn't worked since.

We had the telescum boys out today, the lines in the house are ok they say. So I ring up ihug, they just go over the same crap like 'turn it off and on etc', now they're pointing us back to telecon :wait:

Anyone else had some shit like this? any other ISP's you could recommend, cause we might just tell ihug to fuck off if they don't pull finger.

Rant over

-Indy

Madness
11th April 2006, 20:04
Getting service from any telecommunications company in this country is like pulling teeth (sorry dude).
It amazes me on a regular basis that when I phone the leccy company to abuse them I go straight through and recieve excellent service. I phone the TELEPHONE company and go on hold for at least half a friggin hour. What's up with that, dont they have enough friggin TELEPHONES or something.
Fuckers!!!:ar15: :ar15: :ar15:

Phew, that feels better aye???

Indiana_Jones
11th April 2006, 20:10
It does feel better, let's have a good old rant now :D

-Indy

raster
11th April 2006, 20:15
Check for other items on the same line eg. alarm, faulty phones, I have had situations where the filter had not been installed properly.
The bigest way of telling if it is telescum or ihug(not the most helpful ISP I have found) is if the DSL light goes off it is a Telecom or phoneline problem faulty phone, alarm system interfering.

SuperDave
11th April 2006, 20:15
Had similar problems when we first got broadband. Can't remember how I solved it but I played around with the settings alot and seemed to sort itself out and now only gives occasional problems - similar to what you describe but they only last a few mins usually.

Karma
11th April 2006, 20:47
Honestly people.

Indy - Telescum? Seems your problem is with IHug...

Max - We've got all the phone lines in the country, but if 150 people are all calling at the same time and there is only 50 people answering calls, and each call takes 10mins... you do the math...

Madness
11th April 2006, 20:52
Max - We've got all the phone lines in the country, .... you do the math...

You will be pleased to learn that I do not subscribe to any Telecom services.
The fact remains that an electricity retailer can provide a better telephone customer service than one of the two main telephone service providers.

I'd switch over to Telecom, but they're a bunch of pricks too...

Indiana_Jones
11th April 2006, 21:13
yeah, I only have the modem, I might try some other modems on the weekend with magua, see that helps at all, but I've tried everything I can think of, but yeah, it's a c*nt. Ihug and telecon are just passing the ball to one another, man it's annoying lol :p

-Indy

raster
11th April 2006, 21:13
the different ISP's are changing the way that DSL works and may not be the same as this but this the general standard unles you are using PPPOE which I don't think so since Telecom is involved.
VPI 0
VCI 100
Ecapsulation VC-MUX
Authentication PAP or auto
Nat should be enabled.

But if your DSL light is going out then these aint going to help you.

Possibly check for spyware, but thats not "usually" intermittant.

That's about all I can offer sorry.

WINJA
11th April 2006, 21:14
anything to do with computers and the internet in this country sux , i honestly really feel like kicking some fuckers to death, ive spent 8 hours on the phone to orcon re the above shit and their all a bunch of fucken useless cunts , and telecom are a bunch of fucken criminals holding this country to ransom with a telecomunications system that makes ghana's and ethiopian telcos look good.
bunch of motherless fucks i hope they all get cancer and fucken die.
yeah im pissed off too indy

Madness
11th April 2006, 21:22
Hey WINJA
Just be glad your mouth isn't full of weeping orifices to boot!!

I hate being told shit like...
but if 150 people are all calling at the same time and there is only 50 people answering calls.

So put more people at the end of all those fucking phone lines during peak times, or divert overflow calls to India or Pakistan. Hell, I'd probably get more sense out of a Pakistani anyways........ Gotta be better than listening to a fucking machine forever.

Lazy7
11th April 2006, 21:28
WINJA is spot on.

only way to beat them is to ring. first thing you do is get the persons name and extension, tell them you have a problem, no they dont transfer you. tell them you will be calling them back if its not fixed, not anybody else. them. tell them if you have to call them back a second time about the same problem you will be contacting the companies HR manager about your lack of customer service satisfaction.

9 times out of 10, most of these companies will just go through a 5 point check list, and if they dont fix the problem by the time they get to the end of it, they escalate your call to somebody else, which is geek speak for transfering you to somebody else who doesn't give a fuck.

talk to one person, get there name and dont leave them alone till the problem is fixed.

funny - i always picked WINJA as a telecom phone operator. I hate telecom so much. every cunt on the phone is completely useless.

raster
11th April 2006, 21:30
I have just used up my 1G of usage this month already after only 8 days and I am still getting 1.1Mb/s downstream, should have slowed to 54Kb/s.
Maybe telecom have done something right afterall!

???????

WINJA
11th April 2006, 21:35
Hey WINJA
Just be glad your mouth isn't full of weeping orifices to boot!!

I hate being told shit like...

So put more people at the end of all those fucking phone lines during peak times, or divert overflow calls to India or Pakistan. Hell, I'd probably get more sense out of a Pakistani anyways........ Gotta be better than listening to a fucking machine forever.
WHAT ABOUT PROVIDING A FUCKEN SERVICE THAT WORKS SO WE DONT HAVE TO CALL IN THE FIRST PLACE, TELECOM HAS RACKED UP HUGE PROFITS AND HAVE INVESTED FUCK ALL IN TECHNOLOGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE .
AND LOOK AT THAT SITUATION WHERE THE CHARGE $32 FOR A PHONE LINE WHERE TELSTRA CLEAR OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE SERVICE AND $40 FOR ALL US OTHER FOOLS

ajturbo
11th April 2006, 21:37
WINJA is spot on.

I hate telecom so much. every cunt on the phone is completely useless.

and will they ever improve? i will bet my life savings ... they don't:Pokey:

Madness
11th April 2006, 21:43
Telecom has invested plenty.
Plenty of money went into defending their monopoly over the copper cable network, thus costing their competitors million$ that they in turn would have spent in providing a more competitive network.
Besides, Telecom is run by a woman, like everything else in this joke of a country. What does that tell ya?

WINJA
11th April 2006, 21:46
Telecom has invested plenty.
Plenty of money went into defending their monopoly over the copper cable network, thus costing their competitors million$ that they in turn would have spent in providing a more competitive network.
Besides, Telecom is run by a woman, like everything else in this joke of a country. What does that tell ya?
YEAH THIS COUNTRY SUX ARSE , PEOPLE DIE HERE FROM SHIT THAT IS NOT A BIG DEAL FOR OVERSEAS DOCTORS TO FIX, IE JAPANESE DOCTORS , IF YOU THINK THE JAPS CAN BUILD A BIKE YOU WANNA SEE THEM FIX A HUMAN

bobsmith
11th April 2006, 22:53
Telecom has invested plenty.
Plenty of money went into defending their monopoly over the copper cable network, thus costing their competitors million$ that they in turn would have spent in providing a more competitive network.

You missed out their predator pricing in areas where there is alternative landline provider available, so that while people in those areas enjoy being able to choose something else as well as cheaper landline fees (telecom actually charges less for landline rental in these areas than the rest of the country I believe) we are forced to pay more for telecom to meet the "cost" of doing that in those areas. What we need is some good anti-trust laws in this country, but that's not happending since this country's whole economy is based on monopoly and market domination by the "giants" in each feild. (think telecom, air nz, etc...) Apprently the government decided that competitive market is not beneficial to new zealand and continues to support these scum sucking bastards.

Blackbird
12th April 2006, 07:38
I have just used up my 1G of usage this month already after only 8 days and I am still getting 1.1Mb/s downstream, should have slowed to 54Kb/s.
Maybe telecom have done something right afterall!

???????


Interesting! We used ours up early for the first time and it was chopped back to dial-up straight away.

When we had broadband installed through Xtra, our system fell over after about a week. I made 2 calls to the Xtra help desk, neither of which helped and we were on the brink of getting a technician in; which would have cost us. I made one last call to the help desk and got an Indian guy who was pure magic. He systematically asked me to check various things and talked me through them, which the other two never did and the whole thing was solved inside 10 minutes. Must be big differences in training standards and experience. Big reps to that guy.

MacD
12th April 2006, 08:49
We had the telescum boys out today, the lines in the house are ok they say.

-Indy

Like many other people, I also have my broadband (ADSL) connection saga. The short story is that I had to get Telecom contractors out 3 times due to line problems. The first one took some "shortcuts" to save his time and wired up my ADSL line so that it crossed the street 3 times before entering the house (pole across road --> splitter on house --> pole across road --> connection to house wiring). The second one fixed the break in the line when it inevitabily failed. The third one actually was competent and was stunned at the original job and rewired the whole lot. From that point on it's been rock solid.

Given that your modem connection was flakey, and now your ADSL keeps dropping, I'd still suspect a line fault. What is the voice quality like on your line? If it is poor, log a voice line fault also.

Karma
12th April 2006, 11:54
Must be big differences in training standards and experience.

Pretty much.

They can't train you everything, some things you just gotta learn as you go along, so people that have been on a helpdesk for 6 months will obviously know more than newbies...

The_Dover
12th April 2006, 12:19
WINJA is spot on.

only way to beat them is to ring. first thing you do is get the persons name and extension, tell them you have a problem, no they dont transfer you. tell them you will be calling them back if its not fixed, not anybody else. them. tell them if you have to call them back a second time about the same problem you will be contacting the companies HR manager about your lack of customer service satisfaction.

9 times out of 10, most of these companies will just go through a 5 point check list, and if they dont fix the problem by the time they get to the end of it, they escalate your call to somebody else, which is geek speak for transfering you to somebody else who doesn't give a fuck.

talk to one person, get there name and dont leave them alone till the problem is fixed.

funny - i always picked WINJA as a telecom phone operator. I hate telecom so much. every cunt on the phone is completely useless.

That is a crock of shit. Sitting on the line bitching at someone that cannot actually fix your problem and demanding an extension number when the chances are they do not have their own extension, just a phone connected to an ACD, is gonna do fuck all.

Having worked in the industry I can acknowledge the problems but being a wanker doesn't fix them.

Sure ask for their name, department and T number. Get a case number, ask who they are transferring you to and if you do not get a resolution then follow it up. But dont be a cunt to the frontline operator, who may have done all they can to help you and are simply doing their job by putting on to the relevant department.

I wasn't a phone monkey at Telescum but I had to deal with a lot of complaints and escalations from footstamping tosspots that couldn't differentiate their arsehole from their earhole.

But on the whole I agree with the general sentiment that Telescum are a tyrannical monopoly fronted by a money hungry dyke that wants millions to fund her eventual sex change and hormone therapy.

raster
12th April 2006, 19:29
My connection finally slowed down after 5GB, downloaded the whole 2005 motoGP, now I have to find time to watch it.