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jimbo600

18th May 2006, 19:07

Saw that. You really think that the govt will pony up 12.5 million to sponsor MotoGP? Never happen. Govt hates bikes.

Might happen if instead of leathers Rossi and co wore wearable art award pieces and the teams were sponsored by tofu firms.

Scorpygirl

18th May 2006, 19:09

Saw it too. Hope the gummint comes to the party!!! <_< Bring it on!!! :headbang: :woohoo:

orangeback

18th May 2006, 19:13

Moto GP in Taupo. Lets hope the goverment dont fuck this one up for us as well , it will bring in a lot ove money to the country,
Id make it my annual tour to the north island every year ,and no many others that would do the same , l loved it when i did Brans Hatch and Doninton in the UK for the supperbikes in 1999-2001 and the TT Wouldnt matter how much it cost id be there.

cowpoos

18th May 2006, 19:13

Saw that. You really think that the govt will pony up 12.5 million to sponsor MotoGP? Never happen. Govt hates bikes.
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chocolate rasins??? you on??

Matt Bleck

18th May 2006, 19:15

12.5 mil should be a prob for the gubbermint with that record surplus....

Scorpygirl

18th May 2006, 19:19

There is already a thread on this.

*Mods please combine*

jimbo600

18th May 2006, 19:22

chocolate rasins??? you on??

I'll see your chocolate raisins and raise you a box of Tui.

Marknz

18th May 2006, 19:25

potential there for a 5-7 year contract, and it would have to be on either immediately before or after the Phillip Island round. So get your leave apps in now just incase!!

FROSTY

18th May 2006, 19:27

not thiss season--but yes maybee next year

cowpoos

18th May 2006, 19:28

I'll see your chocolate raisins and raise you a box of Tui.
fuck....you know I'm on..... but remeber....I ain't saying motogp will come.....I'm saying the government will hand out for the event....!!!

roogazza

18th May 2006, 19:29

Can't see that happening, If you've ever seen Motogp, the circus is like a small town ! Super model Helen and the Dwarf won't allow it anyway.. G.

Morepower

18th May 2006, 19:29

12.5 mil should be a prob for the gubbermint with that record surplus....

Fron tonights budget

The government will invest $76.1 million over four years to fight obesity as Health Minister Pete Hodgson called the problem "our most serious public health challenge."

Not after they spend 76 million on telling us we are too fat. I would have thought the latest reality TV craze (downsize me etc) would have pushed the message well enought for Ch**st sakes.

Plus

The government has funnelled an extra $7.2 million into sport and recreation in Thursday's budget.

Funding will increase from $50.8 million in 2005/06 to almost $58 million in 2006/07.

The package boosts funding for elite athletes, regional sports development and active living programmes administered by Sport and Recreation New Zealand (SPARC).

If you are not some elite lycra clad poof say goodby to any funding. Did I say that I hate athletics....

Now I know why I dont watch the news , its just too upsetting:no:

yungatart

18th May 2006, 19:35

If you are not some elite lycra clad poof say goodby to any funding. Did I say that I hate athletics....

Aaah... Steve told me you look really fabulous in lycra - go on, y'know you want to....:shifty: :killingme

vtec

18th May 2006, 19:39

Haha, I do athletics, but I'll tell you where the money really goes.... Yachting, rowing, and rugby,

Some goes to athletics, but very few athletes see any of it. You know what the minister for sport and recreation said several months before the commonwealth games. He said why should he bother funding athletes like Nick Willis who won't get medals, when he could fund people who will get medals like Beatrice Faumuina. Just showing you how out of touch the government is.

Nick Willis taking out the 1500m was the best moment of the whole games for the NZ team, I saw it coming a mile away.

Oh well, I'll give them a chance to see if they can really figure out whats best for NZ. Bring on the Motogp's.

This of course ignores the point that a few years ago the government was spending 13 billion a year on benefits, and my personal pet hate.... art bullshit. Te Wananga managed to syphon a few hundred million I think. They were dodgy as. Students didn't have to do shit, but they still claimed funding from the government for courses that nobody went to... All they had to do was get you to sign up, and you got a free computer, you didn't have to attend anything. And they got a whole lot of money from the government. Genius.

Morepower

18th May 2006, 19:40

Aaah... Steve told me you look really fabulous in lycra - go on, y'know you want to....:shifty: :killingme

Awww ... he promised , what goes on on tour stays on tour :killingme

jimbo600

18th May 2006, 19:40

fuck....you know I'm on..... but remeber....I ain't saying motogp will come.....I'm saying the government will hand out for the event....!!!

Yeah I know. If the govt (tossers) cough up at least 12 large for motoGP you will get a box of choccy raisins and a box of Tui, as KB is my witness.

cowpoos

18th May 2006, 19:47

Yeah I know. If the govt (tossers) cough up at least 12 large for motoGP you will get a box of choccy raisins and a box of Tui, as KB is my witness.
and if motogp come to NZ.....are you gunna still suck your own cock?? I'll take photos for KB to prove it happened?

UrbanMyth

18th May 2006, 19:56

would be so cool! but i dont think it will happen ..sadly.NZ would have to spend a lot!!!

jimbo600

18th May 2006, 20:07

and if motogp come to NZ.....are you gunna still suck your own cock?? I'll take photos for KB to prove it happened?

no probably not.

RiderInBlack

18th May 2006, 20:41

Would Moto GP generate more than $12million NZ if it was held in NZ? If not the Government would not be able to justify even spending half that to help hold Moto GP here. Sorry, but as much as I would love to see Moto GP here in NZ, if it means a tight fist like Finance Minister Michael Cullen is going part with $12million for MotoGP when his total budget for funding for sport is $58 million in 2006/07, which is an increase of $7.2 million into sport over last budget (see Xtra's Budget Delivers Extra Millions To Sport (http://xtramsn.co.nz/businessandmoney/0,,13273-5791703,00.html)), thought is "Yer Right" <_<

UrbanMyth

18th May 2006, 21:51

if anyone didnt see it but wish they did http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_video/windows/one_sport/motogp_180506_128k.asx

R6_kid

18th May 2006, 22:14

saw the news piece, its kind of old news though as it has been spoken about already somewhere (cant quite remember) - sorta just bringing it into the light i guess. What i do know is that if it went ahead it would be a big undertaking. I know that a majority of NZ's motorcycling community would make the journey from all over the country to go and see it, as it is really a two day even (practice one day, then quals and racing the next?)

Truth is though, would taupo town be able to cope with all the added traffic etc? There aint a hell of a lot of accomodation around them parts, well not the type that MotoGP guys will be expecting?

On a side note, wouldnt it be a good idea to try and get WSBK to come our way as well, or is MotoGP and WSBK sorta one with the other package anyway?

loosebruce

19th May 2006, 09:15

"Pending track changes" like a whole new track, chirst are people blind? Have you had a look at the new crop of MotoGP tracks lately, Turkey (one of the best rider tracks in the world IMO) Qatar, Shanghai, and Taupo, please, as cool as it would be, it aint gonna happen, i'll happiely eat my words, but i doubt i will. You just have to look at the width, and run off of these tracks and compare to taupo, then not to mention the facilties and car parking spce, all of which taupo is very lacking, great national cricut, but wont cut the mustard internationally, Hampton Downs is this countrys last hope, lets hope it's all it cracks up to be this time.

Two Smoker

19th May 2006, 09:18

loosebruce

19th May 2006, 09:32

So if it does.... you going to wild card yourself??? On your stocker and show rossi the way around the track??? Now that would be cool... Giving edwards the learn hehehe

Of course, dont be such a dick Chris, ya fricken idiot.

Kickaha

19th May 2006, 12:14

Hampton Downs is this countrys last hope, lets hope it's all it cracks up to be this time.

Not that I'm at all cynical, but will Hampton Downs ever get built?

Taupo needs to be FIM Grade A to run MotoGP, does it comply or can it be made to?

http://www.fim.ch/en/default.asp?item=26#

HDTboy

19th May 2006, 13:10

Where can one petition the govenment to make this a reality?

sennandy

21st May 2006, 22:04

I heard from an undisclosed source today that MotoGP may be coming to NZ next year, is this true and am I the last to know?

Any more info would be great!

Wellyman

21st May 2006, 22:05

I heard from an undisclosed source today that MotoGP may be coming to NZ next year, is this true and am I the last to know?

Any more info would be great!
Yes thats the rumours. apparently it s going to be held at taupo.
WM

Hitcher

21st May 2006, 22:07

A nice dream. I doubt New Zealand could produce the necessaries.

Wellyman

21st May 2006, 22:08

A nice dream. I doubt New Zealand could produce the necessaries.
I agree hitcher, but atleast they have gave it a go. I reckon puke is actually a better track and would be a good track fo GP racing.
WM

MattRSK

21st May 2006, 22:11

Heres hoping. That would be awesome. I better start saving now. :rockon:

sennandy

21st May 2006, 22:11

I agree hitcher, but atleast they have gave it a go. I reckon puke is actually a better track and would be a good track fo GP racing.
WM

To many walls round Puke for Gp bikes, they somehow dont like them?

If Phillip Island can have it why not here, also look at the Isle of Man it is not spralling matropolis is it, and many a good racer has been there?

Hitcher

21st May 2006, 22:26

The track would be Taupo? I presume as it's the only one that's FIA approved?

NhuanH

21st May 2006, 22:28

The track would be Taupo? I presume as it's the only one that's FIA approved?
That may help if we were going for a Bore-mula 1 round, but would the FIM sanction aid the MotoGP campaign?

Motu

21st May 2006, 22:40

And the New Zealand Team will a do a Haka :slap:

Marknz

21st May 2006, 23:40

Having seen ( please note 'seen' and not ridden on ) the new track and the development that is going on there today, I have to say that the consortium that is building up the infrastructure are doing a great job, and I'm sure they're going to get some great meetings there in the future.

But is the new track suitable for MotoGP? Well it's the $64,000 question isn't it. Standing atop the pit wall I'd suggest the new part of the circuit is far too tight for MotoGP bikes, be that 990cc or the new 800cc (It may be good for the 125s and 250). But then I'm not a class rider by any stretch of the imagination, and the likes of Stroud or Harris will be far better placed to comment than me. Yes, today we did not see the older part of the circuit in use, but I personally doubt that will make too much difference apart from add about 800m of straight.

But we do see other small and tight circuits on the current calender such as Sachsenring, and the MotoGP / FIM folks are said to have been here and made some recommendations ahead of a possible 5 or 7 year contract.

Fingers crossed, and I'll dig deep for a ticket if they come here.

Be interested in the thoughts of other experienced national racers here... Nicko ??

Buster

21st May 2006, 23:50

I doubt they spent all that money upgrading the taupo circuit just so they cant hold international events there. Im sure involved parties would have done their homework before money was spent. If they sign up for moto gp on the condition that the track meets FIA standards Im sure people will invest even more coin in it.

Crasherfromwayback

22nd May 2006, 00:29

I agree hitcher, but atleast they have gave it a go. I reckon puke is actually a better track and would be a good track fo GP racing.
WM
Mate, Carl (Karl?) Raborn died at Puke when the bikes went a 1/4 of the speed they do now.
The layout of Puke as a race track is good.
But Armco and bikes do not mix.

Motu

22nd May 2006, 07:34

Cal........

Two Smoker

22nd May 2006, 08:38

Mate, Carl (Karl?) Raborn died at Puke when the bikes went a 1/4 of the speed they do now.
The layout of Puke as a race track is good.
But Armco and bikes do not mix.

second that... (still recovering...)

As for taupo... I would have to have a good go at the full circuit... But it feels very much a layout for 600's (the equivalent of top GP250's...) But there are some current MotoGP circuits where the 250 times are very similar to the 990 times...

hodgeman

23rd May 2006, 11:57

I'll start a petition website for all those interested in supporting MotoGP.
Check the other threads, but I think a bit of New Zealand support could be the ticket
All those in favour say eye!

Matt Bleck

23rd May 2006, 12:04

Post the link and I'll add my name....

Kickaha

23rd May 2006, 12:05

The track would be Taupo? I presume as it's the only one that's FIA approved?

What rating does it have?

All tracks have to have approval, what track rating level it has decides what can race there

Korea

23rd May 2006, 13:49

Host a GP in NZ? It'll never happen... but I want to be wrong so badly!
Is there a poll for this? If not, let's make it a poll - I want to see the ratio between the pessimists and the optimists.

hodgeman

23rd May 2006, 15:21

Hey guys and girls,
I've set up an online petition to get some formal support going for MotoGp coming to NZ.
If your interested, please visit the link below and sign up.
http://www.motogp.co.nz/supportnz/

If you can think of any more blurb to put on it, let me know.
I'll add functionality to be able to view the people and comments already signed up in a few days.

Cheers for your support!

DemonWolf

23rd May 2006, 15:24

Hodgeman.....

'undersigned with like' should be "would" not with

and the comments dialog box... can't put much of a comment in.

But in saying that.. good on ya. signed and done!

DemonWolf

23rd May 2006, 15:27

and perhaps allow a view of who's already signed it =) or a number ticking over of how many have =)

Two Smoker

23rd May 2006, 15:32

and perhaps allow a view of who's already signed it =) or a number ticking over of how many have =)

Second that... can we have a tally...

hodgeman

23rd May 2006, 16:19

'undersigned with like' should be "would" not with

and the comments dialog box... can't put much of a comment in.

But in saying that.. good on ya. signed and done!

Changed, good spotting Demon!
Made the comments box bigger and added a total.
Will add "View all Signatures" shortly!

Thanks for your support guys.

Matt Bleck

23rd May 2006, 16:24

roogazza

23rd May 2006, 16:53

second that... (still recovering...)

As for taupo... I would have to have a good go at the full circuit... But it feels very much a layout for 600's (the equivalent of top GP250's...) But there are some current MotoGP circuits where the 250 times are very similar to the 990 times...

When internationals came here in the seventies they freaked at our "Goat Tracks" and as far as I can see nothing has changed. I don't know if you have ever seen the current works 250GP bikes but they are rocketships and nothing like a 600 road bike ! G.

Two Smoker

23rd May 2006, 16:58

When internationals came here in the seventies they freaked at our "Goat Tracks" and as far as I can see nothing has changed. I don't know if you have ever seen the current works 250GP bikes but they are rocketships and nothing like a 600 road bike ! G.

Nothing like a road bike... But similar to a 600 Supersport (probably a World supersport spec bike, but close enough to a NZ Supersport spec bike) The just handle alot better... Have a similar amount of power 100hp... less weight... and would probably do 59's at least around pukekohe....

Just need to look at when Midge Smart came over on a late model RS125...

James Deuce

23rd May 2006, 17:07

When internationals came here in the seventies they freaked at our "Goat Tracks" and as far as I can see nothing has changed. I don't know if you have ever seen the current works 250GP bikes but they are rocketships and nothing like a 600 road bike ! G.

That's bollocks. The "off-season" spent downunder in the '60s and '70s was an important part of maintaining a racing edge for both bikes and cars. They didn't freak at all. Some of our "goat-tracks" were a hell of a lot better and safer than the courses being raced in Europe and the US in the '60s and 70s, purely because of the amount of space next to the track - i.e. some rather than none.

The ONLY things that score heavily against racing in NZ are the lack of trackside accommodation and facilities for racing teams, media, and assorted organisers and hangers on, the tyranny of distance, and the local apathy to motorsport in general (not true, but you'd think so given the lack of media support). However we'd still get many times the race goers of Bahrain and China, but without heavy Government support we can't raise the money to pay for the rights to host, let alone generate sponsor interest.

Cleve

23rd May 2006, 17:27

I think everybody has missed the big major ingredient. Tobacco sponsorship. All the new venues (China, Turkey, Qatar...) allow it. That is where the money comes from. The fag companies able to stick their logo everywhere.
NZ doesn't allow tobacco sponsorship therefore not even thinking about anything else it won't happen here because of that.

Hitcher

23rd May 2006, 20:51

NZ doesn't allow tobacco sponsorship therefore not even thinking about anything else it won't happen here because of that.
What about those WRC Subarus that race here with 555 written on their sides?

chris

23rd May 2006, 23:16

What about those WRC Subarus that race here with 555 written on their sides?I think you'll find they don't race with 555 on their sides during Rally NZ.

roogazza

24th May 2006, 15:10

That's bollocks. The "off-season" spent downunder in the '60s and '70s was an important part of maintaining a racing edge for both bikes and cars. They didn't freak at all. Some of our "goat-tracks" were a hell of a lot better and safer than the courses being raced in Europe and the US in the '60s and 70s, purely because of the amount of space next to the track - i.e. some rather than none.

With the goat tracks I was including our famous Street races eg Wanganui. Marco Luccanelli ( how ever you spell it ) wasn't impressed, but i must admit Mike Hailwood thought they were ok. The joys of being an old bastard with connections, I got to get on the piss with them !! G.