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The Stranger
29th June 2006, 09:04
Some bloody cock smoker tried to steal the bloody gsxr.
Only had it a few days and some bastard tries to steal it.

Ok those cable locks which they recon you can't cut with a hacksaw, well guess what? you can, cause you can tell the the thing was cut and there are hacksaw blades (x2) on the ground by the cable lock.

Having cut the cable lock they tried to mush the ignition lock to disable the steering lock. That failed. The ignition lock still works though.

They dragged the bike back and the disk lock has smashed up the front guard.

Found the bike out on the road. Not sure why they gave up, but hey they didn't get it and at least it is still ridable.

Was in at Cycletreads yesterday and they have bike alarms reduced from $1,249.00 to $149.00. That is not a mis print, I double checked. Guy recons they are a bastard to fit is the only thing. But now seriously considering it.

frogfeaturesFZR
29th June 2006, 09:07
:nono: Mate that sucks, buy yourself a big DOG !

sAsLEX
29th June 2006, 09:13
:nono: Mate that sucks, buy yourself a big DOG !

And a shot gun!

Installation of an alarm aint too hard, IF you have a wiring diagram a Multimeter and a bit of sense! But it is tedious!

SimJen
29th June 2006, 09:16
Get a bigger lock, a big thick chain type or one with extra steel shells around the cable. Also be sure to park it somewhere safe.
Alarms aren't much good I reckon, noone pays attention to them going off anymore. Pager type alarms (some don't have sirens) are the best, then you can catch the thieving scum in the act and stab em in the eye with a screwdriver ;)

marty
29th June 2006, 09:19
actually, i'd be contacting the lock co, taking the locks to them, and billing them - some of the better known brands have a no-steal guarantee. and by moving your bike, it has technically been stolen.

sAsLEX
29th June 2006, 09:22
Get a bigger lock, a big thick chain type or one with extra steel shells around the cable. Also be sure to park it somewhere safe.
Alarms aren't much good I reckon, noone pays attention to them going off anymore. Pager type alarms (some don't have sirens) are the best, then you can catch the thieving scum in the act and stab em in the eye with a screwdriver ;)

The alarm mention in his post is a pager type which is bloody good value for under 200!

But would YOU notice a bike alarm going off! I mean if i saw some little c**t fiddling with a bike withs its alarm going off I would intervene.

Fishy
29th June 2006, 09:27
catch the thieving scum in the act and stab em in the eye with a screwdriver ;)

Yeah!, and after the eye comes the seckateres on the fingers, joint by joint.

The Stranger
29th June 2006, 09:28
Always worked on the principal that the more locks you have, the longer it takes the more likley they will give up, or better still not bother starting at all.

I suspect that they didn't notice the disk lock until after the cable had been cut. So will get one of those big ugly alarm disk locks, a decent chain, and use a cable lock as well. Still nothing there which can't be defeated with a battery powered 4" angle grinder unfortunately. Except the alarm would make a racket for a while.

Sure no one takes notice of an alarm, but I recon you would need balls to continue trying to steal a bike when it is making a hell of a racket. The alarm mentioned in my first post does dial a pager apparently.

Does anyone know how that works, I assume you need a cellular phone contract for the bike too do you?

SimJen
29th June 2006, 09:33
Yeah I would notice it going off, but for instance where I park my bike....basically noone in the building would notice or possibly give a shit.
So I lock it and park it in a tight spot where its impossible to see from the road, if someone wants it bad enough and theyre good enough, they'll get it.
Flame throwers and 240 volts would keep em away.

SimJen
29th June 2006, 09:35
I had a cheap alarm off trademe on my Car with a remote that was the pager. Cool little gadget, just gotta make sure the batteries are good. It worked up to about 500m away. Which was fine for where I used to park.

placidfemme
29th June 2006, 09:47
That really sucks CaN. Seems the bike thieves are on the prowl now that winter is here (proberly hoping bikers would bus/drive to work and leave the bikes unattended at home because of the cold...

Was your bike at home at the time or parked somewhere else?

Anyway, at least they didn't manage to get the bike. Hope your insurance company helps out with fixing the damage.

The Stranger
29th June 2006, 09:59
That really sucks CaN. Seems the bike thieves are on the prowl now that winter is here (proberly hoping bikers would bus/drive to work and leave the bikes unattended at home because of the cold...

Was your bike at home at the time or parked somewhere else?

Anyway, at least they didn't manage to get the bike. Hope your insurance company helps out with fixing the damage.

It was actually quite close to my bedroom window, where it normally is. Had it had an alarm, I probably would have woken.

Bastard thing is I doubt damage would exceed the excess. Had it been the X11 I would have been real pissed cause I have no insurance on that. Mind you, it is a Honda so no one would want it. I do use an alarm lock on the X11 and and additional big cable lock too and it has a built in immobiliser.

The old storey, ah I have insurance on this bike, so hey no need for the "extra" locks. But screw that, it is getting the works too now.

Motoracer
29th June 2006, 10:02
Shit, that's lucky! I might be keen on getting that alrarm for myself as well.

And I'll seriously consider getting a licence for having a shot gun around. No more mucking around. :nono:

SwanTiger
29th June 2006, 12:08
We have a really nosey old guy living next door to us. Best security EVER.

NotaGoth
29th June 2006, 12:14
:nono: Mate that sucks, buy yourself a big DOG !


Big dogs help, I should know got two round here. No one gets to the door without us knowing, and thats if they even attempt it.

But, sad thing is... If they really want your bike, they'll just shoot your dog.

NC
29th June 2006, 12:20
Get an alarm.
One of the reasons I got the TLR, it came with an alarm :D

Did you get the police to fingerprint the bike?

inlinefour
29th June 2006, 12:29
Might get an alarm for the garage one day. Yea I know what its like to have a bike stolen eh. Kinda sucks arse...

dss3
29th June 2006, 13:02
Just put a stick on the bike stating that it was fomally owned by Loosebruce... that should deter anyone from wanting to steal it! haha..... Kiddin.

buellbabe
29th June 2006, 13:16
My house & garage are alarmed ( and theres no wires to cut ) plus the bike is triple locked AND I've got 2 dogs... works for me :-)

CaN, that really sux, this is the 2nd thread about attempted bike theft in the last couple of days, jeez there are some low-lifes out there...

kawa
29th June 2006, 13:41
bought a mongoose yesterday for my ZX14 the guys made a nice job for $520
Later in the year they will have a dialer that txt your phone if the alarm is activated. mongoose Alarms, North Shore Akl.

The Stranger
29th June 2006, 16:03
Ok, now we are talking.
Looking around the bike shops, they have no idea about security.

The only long strop I could find is the same as the one they cut, they claim 10mm, but that is the size inclusive of the plastic sheath. So I figured there are a lot of cranes in Auckland and their gear must be tested every 6 months. What happens to the failed strops and chains. I got hold of a testing place and as it turns out, for a fraction of the price a bike shop charges they can provide real strops and load rated chains.

Ok the chains are not quite as hard as the security chain, but still too hard to cut with bolt cutters (they use gas).
The hardened chains are only so good anyway. You run around the link with a file to get rid of the case hardening and then hit it with a hacksaw and viola.

The guy at the wire rope place reconed it would have taken them 1.5 - 2 hours to cut the cable, now I have gone up to a 13mm strop and a great big hardened U shackle type lock. He assures me it will take them about 4hrs and 2 blades to cut the strop with a hacksaw.

The photo below shows the old strop (replaced) and the new one.

Added an alarm disc lock to the rear disk and may as well use the existing disc lock on the front now that the guard is mushed anyway.

After that well, this one is insured, so it is the insurance companies worry.

aiki
29th June 2006, 20:03
After loosing 3 bikes, 2 boats and numerous accessories I'd definitly say thieves are fuckers. I had to put automatic doors on my garage so they stay closed all the time except when coming or going. I live in a great street but it seems a prime target area.
I just got an Xena Alarm disc lock for my bike and use it anytime it is on the street {usually while I work} A thief would have to lift the bike onto a truck/van maybe to get away with the bike as i can't see someone getting this sucker off, good price too $120. And if you can lift my bike you are one strong dude.:stoogie:

Gremlin
29th June 2006, 21:06
And if you can lift my bike you are one strong dude.:stoogie:
Agreed. Stop owning little modern sprotties... get yourself a 203kg dry sportsbike :yes:

Jeez Noel... frightening with all those measures you took. I reckon I might look into some extra security...

Clivoris
29th June 2006, 21:06
Pretty disconcerting to hear about all the half inching going on up in Auckland. I've been feeling quietly smug about my bike being alarmed but I might start using my disc-lock as well. Anyway Can, glad the b'stards didn't get it. Score one for the good guys.:rockon:

Insanity_rules
29th June 2006, 21:32
I think we should start a bike thief hit squad. I had someone have a go at mine years ago and the neighbour chased em off. If I'd been there I would have liked to try this neat torture I heard about involving a tablespoon and white vinegar. I'm not a violent psychopath honest!

Titanium
29th June 2006, 21:44
Or own a 230 kg plus ....

I use a masterlock(R) www.masterlock.com cable lock which is 15 mm thick and has a spayed on very thin plastic coating. Has its own integrated lock (not a padlock)

Blardy Farken Bastards.....

Store it in the garage, park a car in the drive way so it cant be taken past....

Zed
29th June 2006, 21:47
Sorry to read about your gixxer Noel, it's nothing less than a violation of your life!

To all thieves reading this (and not just the bike thieves but the ones who steal stuff from their work places too): you are the scum of the earth and one day you will get what's coming to you loser, i sure hope that day is today! :nono:

diggydog
29th June 2006, 21:52
Some bloody cock smoker tried to steal the bloody gsxr.
Only had it a few days and some bastard tries to steal it.

Ok those cable locks which they recon you can't cut with a hacksaw, well guess what? you can, cause you can tell the the thing was cut and there are hacksaw blades (x2) on the ground by the cable lock.

Having cut the cable lock they tried to mush the ignition lock to disable the steering lock. That failed. The ignition lock still works though.

They dragged the bike back and the disk lock has smashed up the front guard.

Found the bike out on the road. Not sure why they gave up, but hey they didn't get it and at least it is still ridable.

Was in at Cycletreads yesterday and they have bike alarms reduced from $1,249.00 to $149.00. That is not a mis print, I double checked. Guy recons they are a bastard to fit is the only thing. But now seriously considering it.mate that sucks,if they catch them ,cut there cocks off.:yes: :gob:

buellbabe
30th June 2006, 07:26
Hardened steel disc locks are a bitch to cut thru... I've got 1 and I know for a fact that it takes a strong bloke a good 2 hrs to cut thru it cos thats what 1 of my mates had to do once when he misplaced his key! And bear in mind that he was in his own garage with ALL his tools available...

The Stranger
30th June 2006, 12:09
Steal that arsehole.

Macktheknife
30th June 2006, 12:20
Glad to hear you at least got to keep the bike mate, I have no time for thieves normally but thieves who try to steal my bikes... pain, lots of pain! I have caught one in the past and he fell over repeatedly while I was chasing him, unfortunately I was unable to stop in time and ran over him, then accidently landed on him. The police were very understanding.

buellbabe
30th June 2006, 12:21
they might just remove the wheel... great locks but do they go thru the frame? Can't quite tell from the pics...

imdying
30th June 2006, 12:22
Steal that arsehole.
Cut, lift, gone :bye:

The Stranger
30th June 2006, 12:31
Cut, lift, gone :bye:

They have to take it past my bedroom window (as they did last time) if the bloody 110db siren in the alarm disk lock don't wake me, they deserve it.

imdying
30th June 2006, 12:35
Even if it did wake you, If there were enough of them, big enough to lift it and make off with it, you'd not stop them :no: Shoot on sight applies here...

SlowHand
30th June 2006, 12:49
Might pay to change the number plate - get new numbers and letters.

The scums might have seen it on trademe, gone to post office to findout the address, then came and gave it a visit. Won't stop the ones that's been, but there could be more about. I think its 25bux to get a whole new plate?

Jantar
30th June 2006, 12:51
Shoot on sight applies here...
That solution works for me. :innocent:

The Stranger
30th June 2006, 13:00
Might pay to change the number plate - get new numbers and letters.

The scums might have seen it on trademe, gone to post office to findout the address, then came and gave it a visit. Won't stop the ones that's been, but there could be more about. I think its 25bux to get a whole new plate?

hmm me thinks you have not met LooseBruce.
No one can read his number plate. Was about 2" square and had no paint on it.
I now have a nice new one.

sAsLEX
30th June 2006, 13:01
Steal that arsehole.

How much is a set of wheels?

Take a couple of minutes to drop the wheels off, might pay to look at putting it through something substantial

imdying
30th June 2006, 13:08
I suppose the easiest thing to do would be to home invade, made you turn the alarm off and unlock it. I pray that one day they'll do it to someone who's polishing their Glock at the time....

The Stranger
30th June 2006, 13:36
How much is a set of wheels?

Take a couple of minutes to drop the wheels off, might pay to look at putting it through something substantial

Not obvious from the photo, but they would either have to remove the swingarm and chain or cut that and replace that too.

And given that these types are not much into spending money (hence they are theives) hopefully they would be more likely to steel someone elses bike instead of mine.

trev
30th June 2006, 17:05
Crikey Noel it'll take you longer to unlock the bike than to kit up.
I'll just nick the SS instead

The Stranger
30th June 2006, 17:20
Crikey Noel it'll take you longer to unlock the bike than to kit up.
I'll just nick the SS instead

Mate, I am not worried about the SS, they can have that.

Just leave the bike alone.

scumdog
30th June 2006, 17:28
Or own a 230 kg plus ....

I use a masterlock(R) www.masterlock.com cable lock which is 15 mm thick and has a spayed on very thin plastic coating. Has its own integrated lock (not a padlock)

Blardy Farken Bastards.....

Store it in the garage, park a car in the drive way so it cant be taken past....


Don't count on the 'car on front of the bike' trick, mate of mine lost a genuine H-D Sturgis that had been parked sideways at the end of garage with a Dodge parked behind it, thieves lifted the bike over the roof of the car - no shit, I saw the scratches on the roof.

T'was in L.A. mind.

jord
30th June 2006, 18:03
hire yourself a sniper, people like that really suck

The_Dover
30th June 2006, 18:41
hire yourself a sniper, people like that really suck

I hear there is one in the Chch area that will do the job for a six pack of Bacardi Breezers and a reach around.

M1CRO
30th June 2006, 22:16
Maybe it was a cow?

gixermike
1st July 2006, 01:34
absolute bar-stewards..

I go for the bike alarm, garage, security lights, lock front and back to kit car one end, to ground anchor the other..garage not visible from road, bike never left out to be noticed, it's either being ridden or is concealed.

don't count on an integral alarm waking you....one can of expanding spray foam in the underseat area and it would be going off nicely, without a peep heard outside. plastic bag and the same over the alarmed disc lock....A freind has lost 2 fireblades basically these ways, they used his tools to undo the front wheel and walked off with the rest of the bike. 2 guys and a scaffold pole is all thats needed.

As for cutting disc lock...nah, they'd just smash the disc and by a pattern one online.

the latest trick in south east london is for a few kids to cut the lock off..if they get caugh, it's only criminal damage.....then walk away see if anything happens....if not, then other guy in bike gear comes up, pretends it won't start (tries a fake key, kicks it over etc....uses mobile phone as if broken down)....then just pushes it off up the street into a van.

If you have a hollow swingarm pivot, you can put a solid bar through it, with a hole in each end, then lock the chain to that. would take some undoing. could also do it with axles if hollow. A cable with soft ends would probably do this as well.

I've wondered wether there should be some sort of Dye pac thing (like they use in cash transfers)....normally it's an organic stain (only stains living cells..but alst for days)....would be easier to spot the bright blue faced robber afterwards...

oh, and I'm not a bike thief if you wondered....just an imaginative engineer who really hates bike thieves..

The Stranger
1st July 2006, 10:22
Maybe it was a cow?

Or a corgi.

And who give me a hard time about always locking my bike up aye?

The Stranger
1st July 2006, 10:25
hire yourself a sniper, people like that really suck

What sniper sucks?
I don't think he's that bad really.

light
1st July 2006, 10:30
Got a friend that had to Nice harleys, They had Bolts Cemented into the Garage, 2 for each bike with Big thick chains. Of course a house alarm and they had both their bikes taken... If someone wants your bike bad enough they will have it one way or another.

But I think a alarm or even better a imobilizer is they way to go, and that pager sounds like a good idea. I park my bike about 300m from work so having a pager if the alarm goes off would be great.

M1CRO
1st July 2006, 15:06
:innocent: I reckon it mustve been :)

Yup those corgi's are pretty low... mate! lol


Or a corgi.
And who give me a hard time about always locking my bike up aye?

fozz rock
1st July 2006, 15:31
If someone wants your bike bad enough they will have it one way or another.

sad but true:gob:

All you can do is make it as hard as possible:angry:

Sniper
1st July 2006, 15:44
I hear there is one in the Chch area that will do the job for a six pack of Bacardi Breezers and a reach around.

12 pack and you have a deal

shafty
2nd July 2006, 02:06
Bad luck CaN - you have my sympathies. I reckon Bike thieves are the lowest form of shyte. I had a GT750 Waterbus stolen from the roadside near Matamata in younger days - the battery died (long story) and by the time I'd hitched back.......... Never mind - the 25 years of counselling courtesy of Jim Beam has sorted that. I've had a fair few years interviewing victims of burglary, and remind everyone not to under estimate the low life. Such stories as " It was parked right outside my bedroom window, chained, and behind a ruddy big fence, but they took the pailings off the fence, poured oil on the path and slid it thru...." etc etc. What sort of scum thinks " hey boys, lets go and nick some Guys Bike" - the lowest. I reckon Karma works tho, and am sure the pr^^k who nicked my bike has ended up with a nagging woman!!