250 Magic

[snuffles]

Well, I think I will go out and buy a 250 to play on.... My back tyres shot on the 1200, so took Mrs snufles bike out for a ride yesterday......bloody great fun.

Not the most powerful thing on the road, but corners like a dream at any speed , the Busa and the VTR that were riding with me, could take me on the straights but up and down windy roads they ate GSX dust.


awesome day, will see if I can borrow it again .... truly magic:yes: :yes:

[kickingzebra]

For that exact reaon I am doing up my zzr again!! MONSTER

[Toast]

I rode a CBR250R on the weekend...and was really quite impressed. It's the same kind of bike I learned on, but I'd forgotten just how quickly those little things can turn in. Absolutely gutless, but would kick some arse on something like the Coro coast road.

[N4CR]

And you wonder why I want to keep my zxr250C when I get a bigger bike... just because when they get set up properly you can't touch em in the tight stuff AND the are so much friggen fun.

[Mr. Peanut]

Get an NSR, it's concentrated 250ness.

Like juice, except not. :yes:

[imdying]

And you wonder why I want to keep my zxr250C when I get a bigger bike... just because when they get set up properly you can't touch em in the tight stuff AND the are so much friggen fun.I think you'll find the late R6/GSXR600s will show them a clean set of heels, 10 years of suspension/frame geometry design, bugger all extra weight, plus 3 times the power never hurt. Gotta agree with MrPeanut though, a 250 stroker is a worthy second bike :yes:

[avgas]

Yeh when i get another garage it will be a matter of days untill i get a nice quick smoker in it

[N4CR]

I think you'll find the late R6/GSXR600s will show them a clean set of heels, 10 years of suspension/frame geometry design, bugger all extra weight, plus 3 times the power never hurt. Gotta agree with MrPeanut though, a 250 stroker is a worthy second bike :yes:

Yes I have ridden a suspension modded 04 r6 (ohlins internal fronts and ohlins rear) and yes it was quicker over-all of course and about 2/3rds the speed at tipping in - as soon as you hit anything with a straight a 250 is gone in its mirrors. But if it's tight shit the whole time and absolutly no straights (eg corner to corner to corner) for a 600's power advantage (not very common) then i'd say a GOOD 250 has the edge.. just. But yeah I get to keep my lisence most of the time because of it's lack of power on the straights. Mostly.. hehe

I find 250's have slightly higher corner speed and you can brake a bit later and flipflopflick em much much more and adjust lines easier.. thats about it. By the time you are braking the big bike has out acellerated you to the corner anyway ffs. THEN I HAVE TO BRAKE MID CORNER TO AVOID RAMMING THEM. ARHGHGHGH :nono: :angry:

Didn't like the k5 600 much but it might have needed setting up better (and it was stock) but I didn't push as hard as on the r6.

My bike weighs 160kg wet, they weigh 164kg ish dry for these late model sportsbikes. So add about 15-18kg of crap to it and alot more inertia from moving parts and you have a 600. 250 on 'riods really... Just still a bit slow at swinging - best way to picture it.

[Toast]

I agree with N4CR. 15 years of development (and man have they developed) still has a hard time battling a lower overall weight, lower internal engine inertia, lower unsprung weight and the benefit of skinnier tyres which help the 250 to turn in super fast.

I don't agree with the lack of speed on the straight helping you keep your licence though...I find that a greater dose of it is even better :niceone:

[kiwifruit]

What about a 400?
250s are in demand which makes them over priced generally....
what about a 150 2 stroke? heaps of fun :D

[imdying]

I agree with N4CR. 15 years of development (and man have they developed) still has a hard time battling a lower overall weight, lower internal engine inertia, lower unsprung weight and the benefit of skinnier tyres which help the 250 to turn in super fast.I've seen enough crap imported 250s pogo and bottom out there way around the hills to respectfully disagree, but YMMV. Lower weight doesn't compensate for what is essentially very basic, for the most part unadjustable, outdated suspension and brakes, imho.

[Toast]

I've seen enough crap imported 250s pogo and bottom out there way around the hills to respectfully disagree, but YMMV. Lower weight doesn't compensate for what is essentially very basic, for the most part unadjustable, outdated suspension and brakes, imho.

I agree that the brakes are mostly pretty crap, but there are 250's around which have adequate suspension that can take advantage of their physical advantages in the tight stuff.

What's YMMV, G?

[imdying]

Yes, 'adequate' is a word I would use to describe most JDM 250s suspension :( I have found that when pushed hard, they don't rise to the occasion like the late 600s do. Of course, if you're sub 60kgs like the average Japanese person that they were designed for, that helps immensely :D

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv It's a great site, good for all those terms and acronyms you've not run across before :)