Gateway Homes rant

[shandawg]

Strongly advised you think twice about using thisa company's services after the guy in the silver ute tried to run me off the road when I shook my head at him for tailgating.

His ute door now bears my footprint.

He shot past me on my left and smacked my mirror with his as I was coming off the motorway at St Lukes.. :ar15:

[Quasievil]

What a prick, you should find out their email addy and send them the link to this forum, give em heaps :2guns:

[shandawg]

Not a bad Idea :) . I have his rego number, wondering If I should do anything about it.

[James Deuce]

Not a bad Idea :) . I have his rego number, wondering If I should do anything about it.

YES! DO! NOW! :)

[jrandom]

Not a bad Idea :) . I have his rego number, wondering If I should do anything about it.

If you want to run a Motochek query on it, PM me and I'll get the details right back to you.

[Menial]

give the number to the poleece, and let the managers there know.

Also dont anybody buy one of those houses as an investment, they are a real con.

[Quasievil]

You do go to the cops, which you should ,just make sure youre clean, IE if you booted in his door expect to pay for it.
As even though you were wronged, you still purposefully damaged his door and your liable for it as wilful damage :Police: .
So think carefully about it, maybe you can just put it down as experience.
They are hurting already from the actions of a mindless idiot as we are all talking about it now right!!

[Ms Piggy]

Definitely contact the company and complain! What a jerk! :bash:

[Kickaha]

Definitely contact the company and complain! What a jerk! :bash:

What she said,and then do follow up call a week later to see what action was taken.

[Shawn]

:angry2: :angry2: ... So how big is the dent on the door…hope it’s HUGE…fu%$er…

coming from uni another cage AGAIN pulled over right in front of me without any signal at medowbank – remuere area……it was a very close call…thanks god there was no one on the other lane as I managed to swerve at the very end… :bash: :bash: :ar15:

[shandawg]

Mate - I love riding, but commuting to and from uni is an accident waiting to happen.

Fingers crossed I'm out of there at the end of this semester :niceone:

[Ms Piggy]

Yeah well I have to ride into the Wellington CBD 4 days a week at the moment at around 4.45pm and every night I would say I have some sort of idiot cager to contend with. I had to do a few deep breathing exercises tonight I tell ya! :angry2:

[shandawg]

I've only been riding for a few years, can any of you more experienced riders out there tell me if the anger wears off?

Or does it get worse? :rolleyes:

[Shawn]

Mate - I love riding, but commuting to and from uni is an accident waiting to happen.

Fingers crossed I'm out of there at the end of this semester :niceone:


ya...tell me about it....but i dunno why though...is it coz the time?...i hope this is the last time i have to go to tamaki campus...i hate going down there as i always took classes at the city...

lucky bugger i still need to hang around one more year..... :crybaby:

[Two Smoker]

Ive got the Gateway homes business card hehehe, will get the contact details down for you :niceone:

[Jackrat]

I've only been riding for a few years, can any of you more experienced riders out there tell me if the anger wears off?

Or does it get worse? :rolleyes:

Yeah after a while ya' just start to exspect and exsept it as inevitable.
I tend to not even give them a second thought now days.

[What?]

When drivers of commercial vehicles do dumb or dangerous shit, I do not hesitate to contact the GM of the company concerned and suggest to him that he may like to remind his drivers that when they are driving a vehicle sign-written with the compamy name, then they are flying the company flag, and that their behaviour on the road is dragging the flag into the mire. (shit, that's a long sentence!) I also tell them that if I were looking for a company in their line of business to deal with, that they are off the list of potentials. Simple fact is that a lot of people go loose in company vehicles, and if the boss isn't told, it isn't going to stop.

[Two Smoker]

also tell them that if I were looking for a company in their line of business to deal with, that they are off the list of potentials. Simple fact is that a lot of people go loose in company vehicles, and if the boss isn't told, it isn't going to stop.
Damn right, im an absolute lunitic on the CT110, although i can't speed on it :( i can still pop the wheel.....

[shandawg]

I have sent the company an email with the rego # of the vehicle and details of what happened along with a bit of a lecture.

I suspect the guy who was driving may have been the boss, as he looked mid to late 30's, and was obviously under a bit of stress to get road rage to the extent of locking up when I was behind him 'cos I was giving him the bird! :finger:
(this was after he passed me so close he smacked my mirror )

[Jinx3d]

You know, if there is one thing I FU**EN HATE.

Its a peice of Sh*T aggressive sob drivers that try and scare you for a laugh.
Here are the wankers email address, I'm sending a red hot bit of hate mail right now!

sales@gatewayhomes.co.nz

Or if you want to remain anoynomous

Thier feedback form.
http://www.gatewayhomes.co.nz/contact_us.html

ssssssssttt *steaming*

[James Deuce]

I've only been riding for a few years, can any of you more experienced riders out there tell me if the anger wears off?

Or does it get worse? :rolleyes:

Getting angry will get you killed eventually. It is really important to stay on top of your situational awareness and being angry tends to give you a narrow focus.

Anger uses up mental processing power so lose the anger ASAP and concetrate instead on getting away from the psychotic loser as fast as possible (NB Not advocating speeding here :Police: )

Hang loose, and don't even waste the energy counting to 10 because while you're doing that there is another hazard to avoid.

[Two Smoker]

Getting angry will get you killed eventually. It is really important to stay on top of your situational awareness and being angry tends to give you a narrow focus.

Anger uses up mental processing power so lose the anger ASAP and concetrate instead on getting away from the psychotic loser as fast as possible (NB Not advocating speeding here :Police: )

Hang loose, and don't even waste the energy counting to 10 because while you're doing that there is another hazard to avoid.
Yep thats what i did today, guy in a Ford Transit just pulled out infront of me, i saw that it mite happen and slowed in anticipation, and what did you know it happened so i slowed to crawling pace, and the guy just stopped and looked at me......... dumb fucker......... i just waited and rode off........

[Posh Tourer :P]

Hows about turning right out of buckley rd, the guy behind decides not to be behind, is turning right and inches forward next to me. literally next to me. Lets me go turn right first though, how nice of him. Unfortunately it made me slower to turn as I had to be sure that he wasnt turing outside of me, as I turn left immediately after. Wish I had boot studs or something, he had some nice shiny mags. But what do you do? you are more vulnerable if he decides to get nasty.....

[Two Smoker]

something, he had some nice shiny mags. But what do you do? you are more vulnerable if he decides to get nasty.....
That coz you bike is slow :P .......... *joking* nah thats a good point, you are far more vunerable on a bike.........

[NordieBoy]

Simple fact is that a lot of people go loose in company vehicles, and if the boss isn't told, it isn't going to stop.

My company vehicle is a Gilera Nordwest.
I love my job :love:

[spudchucka]

Not a bad Idea :) . I have his rego number, wondering If I should do anything about it.
Ring the company and speak to the boss. Give him the rego, time, date and place and explain how pissed off you are. Company managers generally do not take kindly to their employees driving like f**k sticks in the company cars.

[FROSTY]

dude get ya story straight--he tailgated ya then pulled across on ya .
in reaction you put ya foot up to fend off the swerving ute.
But seriously mate it really is a case of such is the life of a bike rider.
As Ive said before you do need to think it through and figure out what if anything you could do to avoid the situation
. Keep in mind that forcing your "right' to be on the road could make you the most correct person in the cemetry or hospital.
It just aint worth stressin over.

[Lou Girardin]

You do go to the cops, which you should ,just make sure youre clean, IE if you booted in his door expect to pay for it.
As even though you were wronged, you still purposefully damaged his door and your liable for it as wilful damage :Police: .
So think carefully about it, maybe you can just put it down as experience.
They are hurting already from the actions of a mindless idiot as we are all talking about it now right!!

The damage to the door happened when the ute driver hit him. (nudge, wink)

Everyone email them
I just sent a message saying that I read this post and will not be using their services for my new home.

[Ms Piggy]

Getting angry will get you killed eventually. It is really important to stay on top of your situational awareness and being angry tends to give you a narrow focus.

Anger uses up mental processing power so lose the anger ASAP and concetrate instead on getting away from the psychotic loser as fast as possible (NB Not advocating speeding here :Police: )

Hang loose, and don't even waste the energy counting to 10 because while you're doing that there is another hazard to avoid.

Yup, you are so right Jim. I realised that yesterday I needed to cool down b/c I was getting really angry & it was affecting my riding. Normally I just shake my head and laugh...I must have had chocolate deprivation. :blink:

[rodgerd]

Yeah well I have to ride into the Wellington CBD 4 days a week at the moment at around 4.45pm and every night I would say I have some sort of idiot cager to contend with. I had to do a few deep breathing exercises tonight I tell ya! :angry2:

You want a real adventure? Try 3:00 - 3:45 around any of the school areas, especially the private schools. Most dangerous time to be out and about. Apparently picking little precious up is more important than the lives of other road users...

[Devil]

Bah, I just tried to use their feedback form but im getting Page Cannot Be Displayed when I try to submit it. grrrr

On the other side of things, I had my first time in real traffic yesterday (am a learner) and signalled and we around the outside of the stopped cars and had no problems getting back into the traffic at the roundabouts.

[Ms Piggy]

Well here's a question - slightly :Offtopic: but relating to riding in the CBD & crazy cagers.

Give ways rules...
No.1 - At an uncontrolled 'T' intersection. I am turning right out of the street and another car is turning left into the street. My understanding has always been that they traffic turning right into the street gives way to me. Is that correct - b/c yesterday they sure as hell didn't.

No.2 - I am going straight ahead and the cage driver is turning right, he is on my left, we are both at compulsary stop signs. I thought I had to give way to him. He kindly waved me on.

[James Deuce]

Well here's a question - slightly :Offtopic: but relating to riding in the CBD & crazy cagers.

Give ways rules...
No.1 - At an uncontrolled 'T' intersection. I am turning right out of the street and another car is turning left into the street. My understanding has always been that they traffic turning right into the street gives way to me. Is that correct - b/c yesterday they sure as hell didn't.

No.2 - I am going straight ahead and the cage driver is turning right, he is on my left, we are both at compulsary stop signs. I thought I had to give way to him. He kindly waved me on.
You are correct on both counts.

1. Didn't see you. They may have looked at you but their threat response didn't activate so for all practical purposes you didn't exist.

2. Is an idiot who had no idea.

[Ms Piggy]

You are correct on both counts.

1. Didn't see you. They may have looked at you but their threat response didn't activate so for all practical purposes you didn't exist.

2. Is an idiot who had no idea.

No. 1 - about 3 cars did this to me in a row. Its the intersection at the top of Cuba St that goes onto Webb St - am I right that it's uncontolled? I couldn't see any lines on the road or any signs. And I decided that I'd come off worse for wear if I tried to go.

No. 2 - That's the Cuba and Able Smith Streets(?), ya know just down from your work.

Thanks for that Jum.

[Devil]

uhhh wait a minute.
re: 2) You're coming from his right, so he should give way...

[Devil]

And yeah, the uncontrolled intersection thing, you have right of way, but you always have to watch out because people are just used to turning off the more "main" road.

[Ms Piggy]

uhhh wait a minute.
re: 2) You're coming from his right, so he should give way...

But I thought if I was going straight ahead & he was turning I give way to him? We were both on STOP signs.

[Devil]

Ok, imagine this situation.
+ intersection, everyone on stop signs.
If you're on the bottom, going straight ahead, and theres someone on your left wanting to turn right, they give way.
Reason: Standard give way rules apply. Always give way to your right.

ok, Same intersection. You're coming from the bottom, going straight again. He's coming from the top wanting to turn right across your path. He gives way again. He would give way to anything coming straight through (technically its on his right.)

[James Deuce]

No. 1 - about 3 cars did this to me in a row. Its the intersection at the top of Cuba St that goes onto Webb St - am I right that it's uncontolled? I couldn't see any lines on the road or any signs. And I decided that I'd come off worse for wear if I tried to go.

No. 2 - That's the Cuba and Able Smith Streets(?), ya know just down from your work.

Thanks for that Jum.

1. You're right. It's like the Petone off ramp onto the Hutt road from the Korokoro lights. They always assume you are on a give way.

2. It is an arse that intersection. I always get people on my right waving me through, and looking at me like I am a spas when I refuse to go.

[Ms Piggy]

Ok, imagine this situation.
+ intersection, everyone on stop signs.
If you're on the bottom, going straight ahead, and theres someone on your left wanting to turn right, they give way.
Reason: Standard give way rules apply. Always give way to your right.


Ahhhhh - yes that's exactly the scenario. Cheers Mate :niceone:

[FROSTY]

of course you could simply apply the unwritten road rule--MIGHT is right and give way to anything tthat might hurt ya

[Devil]

That second one I mentioned about someone coming towards you wanting to turn right catches me out occasionally :(
Theres a particular + intersection up here that throws me off nearly every time.

[Jinx3d]

Here's my reply from the dick head at gateway home...


"You should learn to indicate when lane changing, also aggressive
gestures don't help the situation resulting in kicking and damaging
Company property is not good behaviour. I ride motorbikes also and have
done so for many years and ride responsibly and not like this you
monkey. If you wish to take this further, I would be more than happy to
take this to the police."

[Ms Piggy]

of course you could simply apply the unwritten road rule--MIGHT is right and give way to anything tthat might hurt ya

Yeah I did do that at the T intersection, it was about 9am and lotsa crazt cager commuters.

[Ms Piggy]

That second one I mentioned about someone coming towards you wanting to turn right catches me out occasionally :(
Theres a particular + intersection up here that throws me off nearly every time.
Yeah that's the one, I think I'll just try and avoid that particular intersection where possible. It's a bit of a mightmare anyway! Thanks!

[shandawg]

Here's my reply from the dick head at gateway home...


"You should learn to indicate when lane changing, also aggressive
gestures don't help the situation resulting in kicking and damaging
Company property is not good behaviour. I ride motorbikes also and have
done so for many years and ride responsibly and not like this you
monkey. If you wish to take this further, I would be more than happy to
take this to the police."

Ha! If he's been riding for so long I wonder if he's a KB'er!

The agressive gestures only came after he tried to run me off the road, unless you call a shake of the head agressive when you're three feet away from my rear wheel :p
If any of you know the St Lukes off ramp, you'll know that it's only one lane until right up by the end...

Funnily enough I haven't had a reply to the email I sent yet ??? :Pokey:

[shandawg]

Let's not get too carried away with this though guys - I would rather stay alive than have this guy run me down next time he sees me, so perhaps the malicious emails should stop - After looking back through this thread it seems that this kind of run-in happens quite regularly, and there's not much we can do about it being the little guy.
If he reckons he's been a biker for years I don't think abusing a 250 rider is very wise, both in terms of my obvious skill level and his regard for human life.
Perhaps not the kind of person to be making enemies with?? I wouldn't want to see any of you becoming a statistic because somebody has it in for motorcyclists over something like this.