Dog fighting

[MidnightMike]

I just watched the program on 20 / 20 and im digusted. :angry:

Infact im speechless with anger, someone give me a rifle. :ar15:

What do you guys think?

[chanceyy]

can not watch shit like that .... but get me a gun and i will help you

I totally feel for the poor animals that suffer so farken badly .. for what sport, its not sport its barbaric .. hey why do we not get the ppl involved to fight each other til the death ... at the end we can just shoot the fucker left

[98tls]

saw a bit of it myself.....sucks big time..in the end when they were going to show that video i just turned it off.cant believe the pathetic punishment the court dished out....AGAIN.

[MidnightMike]

Specially the bit where one dog gives up and they let the other one tear it apart for no reason. :nono:

[bobsmith]

Well I think we should just get a gun and Kill all the d....

Hang on, I don't think most people here wants me to finish that sentence...

[Dooly]

That chick they interviewed was oh so smug......would'nt be surprised if she was involved somehow.

People involved in dog fighting need to a dose of ZyklonB.

[Finn]

WINJA's dog is a prize fighter. It gets stuck in it's opponents throat and choke's them to death.

[Lou Girardin]

The death penalty for dog fighting?
Shit, I hope none of you guys become politicians.

[GR81]

dog fighting... not cool!:weird:

[Beemer]

Specially the bit where one dog gives up and they let the other one tear it apart for no reason. :nono:

I forced myself to watch this and I was absolutely disgusted. Sport? Sport my arse, that kind of thing may have been considered 'sport' in the days of the gladiators, but it certainly isn't today. I have never seen anything so horrifying in all my life and that incident mentioned above was one of the worst. How could any HUMAN condone dog fighting, let alone let the fight continue when one animal was obviously beaten and almost dead, is way beyond my comprehension.

As my husband pointed out, the guy who owned the dogs got a piddly fine and community service, yet the couple selling some 'melt your fat' product copped a fine of $800,000. All they did was tell lies about what their product could do, they didn't kill anyone.

And as for that 'photographer' cow, she needs a damned good slapping. She obviously covers the fights for them and probably makes good money from it too. She was just as bad as the rest of them.

And as for the roll call of all the missing dogs, I almost cried.

[Biohazard]

The death penalty for dog fighting?
Shit, I hope none of you guys become politicians.

Fooking right, wheres my local NF office, I wanna sign up and clean this planet of lefty scumbags..

Animal cruelty...BIG NO NO.

Where did I put that :ar15:

[Badcat]

yeah.
"people" with no skills at fighting getting someone else to do it and take the risk for a willing audience.
big men, obviously.

hmmm - dog fighting - international military action.....
am i the only one who sees a parallel?

[placidfemme]

I also agree that is was totally dishusting and very disturbing to watch.

I also can't believe the pittyful little sentence the guy got. But at least we know that the cops and SPCA are out there trying to stop this from happening. But unfortunatley because all that the guy got was basically a slap on the hand and a little "your a naughty boy" attitude.

If I remember correctly a few months back some teenager was charged with throwing a puppy in the air and kicking it on its way down... and his community service was about the same amount of time... IMO this guy should have recieved actual jail time and not just community service.

Like they said at the end of the programme, he is banned from having dogs now, but he will no doubt still play a big part in future dog fights, whether he has dogs or not...

Those types of dogs do have the killer instinct, but subjecting them to that is plain wrong!

[Omega1]

Personally I don't agree with Dog fightin, should make these arse oles indulge in a little cage fightin themselves...see how they like it one on one...or Dogs on one.....

If I catch anyone abusing an animal they're gone....

[Biff]

Ok - It was sickening to watch. And you've got to be a bit sick to enjoy watching it.

However here's an arguement in defence of the 'sport'. (I'm playing devil's avocado):

These dogs enjoy fighting (did you see their tails wagging and the way they strained to get at one another?). If the owners of the respective dogs stopped the fight once it became apparent that one dog was seriously infured - what harm is there in allowing two consenting animals to have a fight?

Freewill? Animal rights (to choose)? Instinct?

Please discuss.....

[BeakerRAT]

Ok - It was sickening to watch. And you've got to be a bit sick to enjoy watching it.

However here's an arguement in defence of the 'sport'. (I'm playing devil's avocado):

These dogs enjoy fighting (did you see their tails wagging and the way they strained to get at one another?). If the owners of the respective dogs stopped the fight once it became apparent that one dog was seriously infured - what harm is there in allowing two consenting animals to have a fight?

Freewill? Animal rights (to choose)? Instinct?

Please discuss.....

Oh come on! Hardly freewill. The dogs have been conditioned for that response by those BASTARDS. Yes dogs will fight, but they are pack / social animals. Given freewill there might be a fight to establish dominance but nothing like that. Those WANKERS need to be kneecapped and have the dogs turned on them.

[Lou Girardin]

I bet the dogs wouldn't be at all interested in watching humans fight.
Which are the animals?

[Dooly]

I bet the dogs wouldn't be at all interested in watching humans fight.
Which are the animals?

Good point.:first:

[T.W.R]

Ok - It was sickening to watch. And you've got to be a bit sick to enjoy watching it.

However here's an arguement in defence of the 'sport'. (I'm playing devil's avocado):

These dogs enjoy fighting (did you see their tails wagging and the way they strained to get at one another?). If the owners of the respective dogs stopped the fight once it became apparent that one dog was seriously infured - what harm is there in allowing two consenting animals to have a fight?

Freewill? Animal rights (to choose)? Instinct?

Please discuss.....

There isn't any freewill in it at all, those dogs are ill treated & broken to it, the poor dogs don't know any better, their programmed. It disgusting & immoral, sure there's breeds designed specifically for it (pitbull, Argentinian Doggo, Sharpee, etc) but that's from a time long gone.
Blood sports like that are sickening, what the f*#@ rights have humans got to manipulate another animal into giving it's life just for the humans entertainment? absolutely friggin none!

These days the dogs that get caught into this disgusting event are abused, mistreated and live a life that breaks their spirit. plus the sickening way some of these fighting dogs are trained up (I use the term loosely) is even worse :sick:

These scum that get their kicks from it, should be planted on the recieving end of a whole pack of blood crazed dogs a payment for the pain & suffering they inflict on those poor animals.

[placidfemme]

With this whole dog fighting thing. I knew people did it, but I didn't know as much as I learnt last night. Is it very common? Does it happen all the time? Whats the point? (As in do they do it to say thier dog is the best or do they do it for the money from the bets?)

Edit: And as mentioned in the post above, they use certain dogs for this... why doesn't the govt. put a restriction on the breeding and selling of those certain breeds? (They may already but I don't know)

[Dazza]

With this whole dog fighting thing. I knew people did it, but I didn't know as much as I learnt last night. Is it very common? Does it happen all the time? Whats the point? (As in do they do it to say thier dog is the best or do they do it for the money from the bets?)
I've got the best dog & I'll take your money if you want to prove it !

Edit: And as mentioned in the post above, they use certain dogs for this... why doesn't the govt. put a restriction on the breeding and selling of those certain breeds? (They may already but I don't know)
I think they already have, but they're already here and it's not as if there is a register for them & it's illegal already, they've just got to catch more of the bastards.:angry:
I did feel :sick: to the stomach for atleast an hr after veiwing it !!!

[Biff]

Lay of the negative REP 'you'. Please read my feakin post again!

I wasn't "defending the scum". :motu:

[Patrick]

Ok - It was sickening to watch. And you've got to be a bit sick to enjoy watching it.

However here's an arguement in defence of the 'sport'. (I'm playing devil's avocado):

These dogs enjoy fighting (did you see their tails wagging and the way they strained to get at one another?). If the owners of the respective dogs stopped the fight once it became apparent that one dog was seriously infured - what harm is there in allowing two consenting animals to have a fight?

Freewill? Animal rights (to choose)? Instinct?

Please discuss.....

Free will and animal rights to attack kiddies too perhaps? They wag their tails and strain to have a go at that too...

[placidfemme]

Free will and animal rights to attack kiddies too perhaps? They wag their tails and strain to have a go at that too...

thats a good point....

[skidz]

Yup, was pretty gut wrenching as they call it sport. I don't know how they can let this sort of thing happen. That big fat lump of lard needed attacking and then put outside and get shot like he did to his dogs.

[Madmax]

bushmaster (still love that name) or fn fal
for the owners
(7.62mm slows down things pretty good)
:innocent:

[Mr. Peanut]

Would someone explain to me, on this logic.

How is pig hunting is socially acceptable?

[The_Dover]

I agree.

Cock fighting is much more fun to watch.

Two cocks fighting for supremacy, who get's first crack at the shitter.

[one-speed]

I just watched the program on 20 / 20 and im digusted. :angry:

Infact im speechless with anger, someone give me a rifle. :ar15:

What do you guys think?

i second that !! not good at all owers deserve everything they get and more::angry2::
under rule number 7.62x54:ar15:

[Hitcher]

Come on guys. Hoodies have to get their thrills somehow. They think dog fighting is really macho. A bit like beating up on your missus and kids. It's just a low self-esteem, small penis, smaller brain issue. Probably exacerbated by P and other Loserville products.

This problem's not going to go away easily or soon. You all know people like this. What are you going to do about it?

[98tls]

This problem's not going to go away easily or soon. You all know people like this. What are you going to do about it?
:innocent: nothing i guess.....just like everything else we moan about.:yes:

[BarBender]

Would someone explain to me, on this logic.
How is pig hunting is socially acceptable?

You're kidding right?

[Mr. Peanut]

Pig and dog alike sustain horrific injuries, it's is not dissimilar to dog fighting.

[yungatart]

I didn't see the programme but have read the whole thread.... seems to me that this guy got banned from owning a dog for life. There are people in NZ who do just as bad to their kids on a daily basis, but nobody is ever forbidden from having or looking after children in our country. Seems to me our animals are treated a whole lot better and have a much higher value put on their wellbeing than our kids do. No wonder society has gone to the pack.

[Beemer]

I didn't see the programme but have read the whole thread.... seems to me that this guy got banned from owning a dog for life. There are people in NZ who do just as bad to their kids on a daily basis, but nobody is ever forbidden from having or looking after children in our country. Seems to me our animals are treated a whole lot better and have a much higher value put on their wellbeing than our kids do. No wonder society has gone to the pack.

It's a well known fact that the way people treat their animals is a good indicator of how they treat humans. It's probably in the Bill of Rights or something similar that you can't stop people procreating - otherwise why would those in countries where people are dying of starvation be allowed to breed? And I think you've missed the point - he hasn't been given much more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. I am horrified that these animals were treated this way just as I'd be horrified if he had treated his children in a similar manner. But if he'd done the same with his kids, he'd be locked up for years.

I don't think animals have a much higher value put on their wellbeing - but in my opinion, they should. They don't lie, cheat, steal (apart from the choice bits of your dinner or their share of the bed!), assault, murder (killing birds, etc doesn't count), etc and they offer unconditional love in return. How many humans can you say the same about?

Wow, banned from owning a dog for life, what a terrible punishment. He may not personally own dogs in the future but I bet he won't be stepping away from the dog fighting.

[yungatart]

And I think you've missed the point - .....
I don't think so, but my point was that for mistreating an animal, you can be banned from owning further animals, but for mistreating kids, you MAY get locked up, but when you get out, the dear old gummint will PAY you to breed more kids, if you so desire. Well in my mind that is totally the wrong way around and very desperately f***ed up. I reiterate, it is no wonder that society is f***ed up.

[Mr. Peanut]

My society looks ok to me :blink:

[inlinefour]

Pig and dog alike sustain horrific injuries, it's is not dissimilar to dog fighting.

Did not leaving AKL for Thames teach you anything??? The pigs are just heald at bay by the dogs so that the pig can be shot. There usualy aint much fighting going on, unless the pig is backed into a courner. Are you a vegetarian Mr P or a politically correction orificer? Ive been pig hunting alot in the past and its pretty rare to have an animal severely injured. Give it a rest with the bleeding heart brigade and go and check it out for yourself eh. At this rate you'll be a greenie in no time. They also love to shoot off at the mouth, whie not actually knowing much about what they are talking about...:nya:

[Mr. Peanut]

I don't judge it, but there are parallels to dog fighting nonetheless. :yes:

[inlinefour]

I don't judge it, but there are parallels to dog fighting nonetheless. :yes:

I still think that comparing dog fighting to pig hunting is like comparing chalk to cheese. Oh and for the record, Im dead against dog fighting. My last dog a mastiff I got from the SPCA after it was rescued from wankers that was running dog fighting. First few months was a bit dicey, but he turned out to be a great pet. Was in a awefull state when I got him though, anyone who is caught running dog fights should be wipped in a stockade, publicly.

[BarBender]

I don't judge it, but there are parallels to dog fighting nonetheless. :yes:

....And I'll be seriously reflecting on those parallels while I'm stocking my deep freeze with wild pork next week.

We'll be in the Rotomas if you're keen to join us.

[Mr. Peanut]

....And I'll be seriously reflecting on those parallels while I'm stocking my deep freeze with wild pork next week. That's no way to talk about the missus :nya:

[BarBender]

or undercover cops.... (whoops did I write that!)

[Fatjim]

That's no way to talk about the missus :nya:

"Deep Freeze". Thats right on so many levels.

[Fatjim]

I'm with Yungatart on this one. All very well getting your goat up over dogfighting, but are you just as concerned about abortion and child welfare?

[Beemer]

I'm with Yungatart on this one. All very well getting your goat up over dogfighting, but are you just as concerned about abortion and child welfare?

Oh, now we ARE getting off track! Comparing abortion to dog fighting? Spare me! Come on, abortion - whatever your ethical views on it - is a medical procedure carried out - in New Zealand - by registered medical practitioners. Dog fighting is carried out by sub-humans who set one dog on another with the sole aim of fighting - if not to the death - at least to total submission by the other animal. It is barbaric and people place bets on it and go along to watch. When was the last time (apart from a SPUC meeting perhaps) that YOU got to watch an abortion?

As for banning someone from owning an animal for life - how the hell do you think this would be enforced? Do you know of any cases where the police have followed up and bothered to charge anyone with owning an animal when they shouldn't? It's a bit like disqualified drivers - they may be banned from driving for a certain period but it rarely stops them.

Yes, I think we should ensure all children are safe but this thread is not about child abuse OR abortion, it's about dog fighting. Considering many of the children who are abused are abused by the partners of their sole parent, how would banning the abuser from breeding stop this?