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Motoracer

2nd June 2004, 23:02

I feel like the biggest looser and I should probably be shot for what I have done. :crybaby:

When changing the oil, I tightned the sump plug too hard and now its broken!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

I think I need a new sump now and its most definetly too late to get it done by tomorrow. :confused2

Any sujestions anyone? I am gonna cry some more... :cry:

Lee Rusty

2nd June 2004, 23:08

Motoracer

2nd June 2004, 23:11

has plug broken off, or has thread stripped. if broken can be drilled and replaced -should be easy to get a plug to fit from a wrecker, if stripped eith replace sump or get the thread hole heli-coiled - both fairly simple repairs.

The threads have stripped. Can you please explain what heli-coiled means? New sump for a newish bike will really drain my savings.

Jesus Christ

2nd June 2004, 23:13

The threads have stripped. Can you please explain what heli-coiled means? New sump for a newish bike will really drain my savings.

It means they re-tap the thread into the sump. Quite common if you overtighten spark-plugs (I did on an old t350).

Motoracer

2nd June 2004, 23:17

It means they re-tap the thread into the sump. Quite common if you overtighten spark-plugs (I did on an old t350).

Do you know any where were I can get it done? Do I need to take the sump off for them to do it? Or can I take my whole bike to them in the van?

Velox

2nd June 2004, 23:25

I did that too - sucks eh?! Got mine redone (helicoil) at the shop and cost under $100 bucks (can't remember how much) so it's not too bad. They just drill in a new thread somehow. At least you don't need to order in new parts or anything. Moral of the story (for me anyway) was always use the small arm on the socket set!!!
Good luck!
:niceone:

matthewt

2nd June 2004, 23:25

Do you know any where were I can get it done? Do I need to take the sump off for them to do it? Or can I take my whole bike to them in the van?

Far be it from me to cut in on JC but you'd have to take your sump in. I doubt any engineering places will want to screw with your bike. Some bike shops might be able to do it, the gear you need isn't expensive so I'd imagine some of them might have it.

Jesus Christ

2nd June 2004, 23:29

Far be it from me to cut in on JC but you'd have to take your sump in. I doubt any engineering places will want to screw with your bike. Some bike shops might be able to do it, the gear you need isn't expensive so I'd imagine some of them might have it.

Ahhhh, a MV rider, someone who has truely seen the light :yes:

Slim

2nd June 2004, 23:33

For a description of what a helicoil is & how it's done check out this: http://www.emhart.com/products/helicoil.html

FROSTY

3rd June 2004, 01:42

MR --get ya fecking bike to my place--like now.
call ALEX --0272647282
tell him you can get the bike to my place -explain your problem
Hell be there sometime tomorrow -thursday to set the carbs on mella yella
He will helicoil the sump plug thread for ya
If needs be and if theyre the same size just dump the oil on my fxr and use my sump plug

White trash

3rd June 2004, 08:12

What's the news?! Someone give us some good news!

erik

3rd June 2004, 08:52

I hope you get it sorted in time, Motoracer. When I read the thread title I thought it was going to be something worse... glad it wasn't.

vifferman

3rd June 2004, 09:32

FWIW (for anyone else that has this problem), you don't have to take the sump off (although that's the best/safest way to do it) - you can just cut the threads for the helicoil using lots of heavy grease to catch the metal bits, then flush the sump with oil when you've finished, to wash out any bits that might have got in. And the helicoiling itself is a 'piece of piss'. You can get kits from places like Motomail, or engineering supply places. Or there are garages/engineering places that'll do it for you.

As an aside, I thought I'd have to do this with my FahrtSturm. The previous owner had overtightened the sump plug AND rounded off the head of the plug, which is only a 12mm-sized head. I couldn't get anything to grip on the head, as there's a fin on the sump that gets in the way. After mucking about with it for ages, I decided that the worst that could happen was I'd wreck the thread in the sump, so I went for it and drilled it with three bits of increasing diameter (to make a tapered hole) and stuck the largest 'Ezi-Out' I could in the hole. I was wailing on it with a 12" wrench, and all of a sudden it went "CRACK!!" :shit: I thought "The Ezi-Out has broken as usual..", but it was just the plug letting go, and all was sweet after that: drained the oil, fitted the new plug AND washer, refilled it, and away I go.

The moral: change the crush washer occasionally, and DON'T overtighten the plug!

FROSTY

3rd June 2004, 09:45

good news guys --MR hauled his sump off and is on his way to colemans to get a helicoil fitted as we speak

Cajun

3rd June 2004, 09:54

good one XJ

I wanna see him out racing on saturday

White trash

3rd June 2004, 09:56

Yeah, thank Christ/Allah/Satan for that.

vifferman

3rd June 2004, 10:01

Yeah, thank Christ/Allah/Satan for that.

Hmmm.. lesssee...
Thank Satan for causing him to wreck it in the first place, and then causing him to despair about it; thank Jesus/God for the good that is in people that made them help him in his hour of tribulation; and thank Allah for the Moolah to pay for it? (Well, really, Allah isn't really part of this epic tale of triumph over adversity, but we don't want him to feel slighted and send Satan to ferk things up again, do we?) :eek5:

k14

3rd June 2004, 10:04

Why does every thread end up with something to do religon???

White trash

3rd June 2004, 10:07

Why does every thread end up with something to do religon???

Because they're the tree funniest mofos on this website, that's why. (With the exception of Wari and Hitcher of course)

Motoracer

3rd June 2004, 10:21

White trash

3rd June 2004, 10:27

Right guys, I am back on track. Sump is droped off at Colemans and is getting helicoiled as we speak. Hopefully It'll all be on the bike by tonight. Also the tires that a very nice and hilarious guy from Welly sent me down are being put on. Got to love Rennsport RS1 on the front and RS2 at the back eh. :Punk: Oh and Jimmy, I think I will go for the Leather sisy bar for better aerodynamics for my race bike! I hope you can give me a good deal on that mate.

Thanx to all for helping me out, including Jesus Christ?... Na, still not convinced <_< But thanx for the help anyway :)

F-ing hell I was freaking out lastnight before I found out about helicoil :sweatdrop

LMAO. I could almost see your tears as you typed in the post, brother!

Glad you like the tyres and the sissy bar's on it's way :doobey:

Deano

3rd June 2004, 10:49

Yeah, thank Christ/Allah/Satan for that.

How about thanking the marvels of science and technology ?

LMAO. I could almost see your tears as you typed in the post, brother!

Glad you like the tyres and the sissy bar's on it's way :doobey:

Sissy bar - is that another name for a gay man's tool ? :shifty:

BTW - what does LMAO mean ? :confused:

White trash

3rd June 2004, 10:59

How about thanking the marvels of science and technology ?

Sissy bar - is that another name for a gay man's tool ? :shifty:

BTW - what does LMAO mean ? :confused:

Laughing My Arse Off.

Motoracer

3rd June 2004, 11:22

Sissy bar - is that another name for a gay man's tool ?

Technically if a gay man was of the screamish type and wanted to go pillion, I guess the Sissy bar would provide some comfort for him thus being a type of a gay man's tool? Hence the name, "sissy bar". So the answer to your question can be a yes (although not always true).

jrandom

3rd June 2004, 11:34

Laughing My Arse Off.

And a very nice arse it is too, I hear.

merv

3rd June 2004, 11:41

Right guys, I am back on track. Sump is droped off at Colemans and is getting helicoiled as we speak. Hopefully It'll all be on the bike by tonight. Also the tires that a very nice and hilarious guy from Welly sent me down are being put on. Got to love Rennsport RS1 on the front and RS2 at the back eh. :Punk: Oh and Jimmy, I think I will go for the Leather sisy bar for better aerodynamics for my race bike! I hope you can give me a good deal on that mate.

Thanx to all for helping me out, including Jesus Christ?... Na, still not convinced <_< But thanx for the help anyway :)

F-ing hell I was freaking out lastnight before I found out about helicoil :sweatdrop

Great and you've now bought a torque wrench and/or learnt not to overtighten your bolts eh! Just hold back on the strength there and act like a weakling when you do up your sump plug. They usually have an aluminium washer that you are meant to replace each time and being soft it means you don't need to nip it up too tight to get a good seal.

Motoracer

3rd June 2004, 11:47

Great and you've now bought a torque wrench and/or learnt not to overtighten your bolts eh! Just hold back on the strength there and act like a weakling when you do up your sump plug. They usually have an aluminium washer that you are meant to replace each time and being soft it means you don't need to nip it up too tight to get a good seal.

I am definetly going to invest in a torque wrench now.

White trash

3rd June 2004, 11:50

And a very nice arse it is too, I hear.

From who?!

Firefight

3rd June 2004, 15:43

I am definetly going to invest in a torque wrench now.

Don't be in too much of a hurry to buy a talk rench, I think there is one at your second home., you can look after it for me. :ride:

F/F

vifferman

3rd June 2004, 15:49

Don't be in too much of a hurry to buy a talk rench, I think there is one at you second home., you can look after it for me. :ride:

F/F
I think you meant to say "Talk Wench". :shifty:

Andrew

3rd June 2004, 15:50

Hey glad to hear that you're sorted MR. I don't think i'll be able to watch you race though. :(

Firefight

3rd June 2004, 15:52

I think you meant to say "Talk Wench". :shifty:

Could be FS, I live in a house with 4 of them, :shit: no prob to let one go.

F/F :shutup:

Motoracer

3rd June 2004, 15:52

Could be FS, I live in a house with 4 of them, :shit: no prob to let one go.

F/F :shutup:

Ahem... yes... You know that they'll be in good care, Torque and talk :)

Motoracer

3rd June 2004, 15:57

Hey glad to hear that you're sorted MR. I don't think i'll be able to watch you race though. :(

Bummer dude! I'll try to do a nice write up when I come back for thoes of you who can't make it.

Hoon

3rd June 2004, 16:12

Yes I think we should make it a new KB rule that all first time racers have to write up a race report afterwards!!

White trash

3rd June 2004, 16:15

Yes I think we should make it a new KB rule that all first time racers have to write up a race report afterwards!!

I aggree. Not forgetting to mention all the wonderfull people who have helped get them where they are ;)

Hitcher

3rd June 2004, 20:08

It means they re-tap the thread into the sump. Quite common if you overtighten spark-plugs (I did on an old t350).

You had to use a mechanic, JC?? I thought that a person of your standing would have a magic wand or something similar you could wave, or lay your healing hands on it??

RiderInBlack

3rd June 2004, 20:41

You had to use a mechanic, JC?? I thought that a person of your standing would have a magic wand or something similar you could wave, or lay your healing hands on it??Na his just taking a rest from carpentry.

RiderInBlack

3rd June 2004, 20:48

The reluctant Messiah in "Illusions" had skinned "CATs" (deisel mechanic).

And didn't Zen do a book on Motorcycle maintenance?

merv

4th June 2004, 08:11

I think if you'd talked to a wench first she might have told you not to screw it so hard.

Motoracer

4th June 2004, 08:25

Aren't I such a brute :(

Good one btw :lol: