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Ok, I've owned my hyosung gt250r for just over 8 weeks, and in that time it has been back in the shop for a total of 2.5 weeks under warranty and I haven't even done 1500km on it :angry:
I took it in the first time becuase it was due for its 1000km service, and it was cutting out on long hills??.. anyway they serviced it and "looked" at the problem but couldn't find it so they drained the carbs. (not sure how they intended for that to fix it).
So i got it back and the problem was still there, so i sent it back again. This time I got it back in WORSE condition. Was idling @ 3-5k and it died on the side of the road after a 25minute ride. So I took it back AGAIN..
This time they took the carbs apart blah blah, and i picked it up a week later and drove it to work, and it seemed fine but that night when i went to drive home it started cutting out on victoria st - 100m from where i work?!?
So my question is, are they under obligation to replace the bike or refund my money? I'm sick of taking it back when they obviously cant fix it!
Also the frame started rusting after about 3 weeks (I've told them about it every time i've taken it down and they seem to be ignoring me).
Its a shame because all I've heard about Mt. Eden Motorcycles are fantastic things.
Would appreciate your opinions :wait:
sels1
31st July 2006, 13:06
It sounds like the problem Skelstar had with his one and it was a glitch from the factory but he had his sorted out by TSS in Wgtn. I cant remember the details, maybe pm him for info.
Wasp
31st July 2006, 14:34
I think Skel* had a poked cdi (mabye?)
The_Dover
31st July 2006, 14:37
You're obviously not thrashing it hard enough.
Rev the guts out of it.
Yeah at this point i'm more interested in preferably getting my money back or getting a replacement bike.. I mean frame rust and this amount of pissing around isn't what anyone should expect when buying a brand new bike!
Hellraiser
31st July 2006, 14:51
Who's doing the repairs?
I had a GT250R that had a problem cutting out and after about two weeks of fart assing around they found that there was a problem in the CDI.
Also a mate of mine had a prob with his GT250R it would just cut out completly on him his problem turned out to be the stand switch.
Yes I have also had issues with my sidestand switch, which I've told them about but they don't seem to have even looked at it. and yeah after 2 1/2 weeks in the shop you think they'd have some answers. Mt. Eden Motorcycles are doing the "repairs" seeing as I bought it from them.
I think it prolly is the CDI, but maybe they are reluctant to replace it for some reason so they keep playing with the carbs?
All I want is my money back. Does anyone know if I am entitled to this?
SwanTiger
31st July 2006, 14:59
So my question is, are they under obligation to replace the bike or refund my money?
I believe they have a right under consumer laws to first make an attempt to rectify the problem. If the solution they provide is un-satisfactory, then start talking about replacement/refund.
Would appreciate your opinions
Sounds like one of your coils might be on the way out or you need to have the CDI replaced or the brown (brown and green, if I recall correctly) wire cut in the CDI.
If you are only loosing power partially then I don't think it will be the side stand kill switch, but if you are loosing power completely and gaining it again at infrequent intervals then it might be the side stand kill switch. They seem to fuck out pretty easily.
sAsLEX
31st July 2006, 15:01
Yes I have also had issues with my sidestand switch, which I've told them about but they don't seem to have even looked at it. and yeah after 2 1/2 weeks in the shop you think they'd have some answers. Mt. Eden Motorcycles are doing the "repairs" seeing as I bought it from them.
I think it prolly is the CDI, but maybe they are reluctant to replace it for some reason so they keep playing with the carbs?
All I want is my money back. Does anyone know if I am entitled to this?
Fit for use or something. no point paying for a bike as transport if it spends all its time in the shop, so therefor its not what you thought you were buying I would say you have a case
Motu
31st July 2006, 15:05
They would of drained the carbs to check for water,often the problem when missing up hills (fuel moves to the taps and into carbs).In intermittent cutting out is just that,intermittent - if it won't do it in the shop they have very little to go on can only do a few checks.It can take hours to sort these things out,ideally the mechanic rides around until it happens,then he can diagnose.If you won't pay for the time,and Hyosung won't pay for the time...then they will be reluctant to foot the bill themselves,afterall it's not really their problem.I have the same problem in my game - no one will pay for diagnosis,and until someone does,the job doesn't get fixed.You bought the bike in good faith,they sold the bike in good faith....did Hyosung build the bike in good faith?
The_Dover
31st July 2006, 15:09
did Hyosung build the bike in good faith?
No, I believe they built it in Korea.
Sounds about right lol.
So what should I do about the frame rusting.. I took it back the first time and they said "Oh sorry did I not tell you they do that" ?
Apparently its completely normal.. which is bullshit in my opinion.. should'nt be rusting for at least 3-5years! :nono:
The Stranger
31st July 2006, 15:16
In intermittent cutting out is just that,intermittent - if it won't do it in the shop they have very little to go on can only do a few checks.It can take hours to sort these things out,ideally the mechanic rides around until it happens,then he can diagnose.If you won't pay for the time,and Hyosung won't pay for the time...then they will be reluctant to foot the bill themselves,afterall it's not really their problem.I have the same problem in my game - no one will pay for diagnosis,and until someone does,the job doesn't get fixed.You bought the bike in good faith,they sold the bike in good faith....did Hyosung build the bike in good faith?
We have the same problem with computers.
But at the end of the day it really is between us and the manufacturer, so we will replace the unit, work on it in spare time and re-sell it for what we can get as a second hand machine.
Mind you you can only do that if you don't sell crap gear to start with.
Motig
31st July 2006, 15:20
2 1/2 weeks out of 8 weeks of the road bike not fit for purpose I'd say and you should be given a new bike or refund. Have a look on the Consumers website I think they have a bit of info, I know I read it somewhere) I think if you do a search on Kiwibiker theres a similar thread somewhere about a Hysoung too.
Motu are you saying that some profesionals will just take the money while ripping the consumer off ?:gob: Surely not.
sAsLEX
31st July 2006, 15:24
2 1/2 weeks out of 8 weeks of the road bike not fit for purpose I'd say and you should be given a new bike or refund. Have a look on the Consumers website I think they have a bit of info, I know I read it somewhere) I think if you do a search on Kiwibiker theres a similar thread somewhere about a Hysoung too.
Motu are you saying that some profesionals will just take the money while ripping the consumer off ?:gob: Surely not.
One about a Honda lemon as well, and the brilliant service that person got.... NOT... but most of the story was hidden as they got their lawyers in and had a "confedientialty" clause so we all couldnt hear about it
BUT YOU DONT SEE NO BAD SHHIT ABOUT SUZUKI AND THEIR WARRENTY CLAIMS DO YOU !?
Macktheknife
31st July 2006, 15:33
Speak to Mike at Mt Eden and tell him your concerns, ask him to contact the manufacturers agent and arrange for a replacement. If that doesn't work, see your local Citizens advice office and seek a legal opinion. Consumer Guarantee Act covers this situation.
Motu
31st July 2006, 15:42
Motu are you saying that some profesionals will just take the money while ripping the consumer off ?:gob: Surely not.
I'm saying that some manufacturers use the dealers as troubleshooters to sort their problems out.They will pay for parts and labour,but someone has to sort it all out.The dealer needs margin enough to cover this crap,and on budget goods the margin is small.When I worked for a franchise dealer we had a shed just for warranty parts,and a guy who worked full time on claims.
WINJA
31st July 2006, 17:59
One about a Honda lemon as well, and the brilliant service that person got.... NOT... but most of the story was hidden as they got their lawyers in and had a "confedientialty" clause so we all couldnt hear about it
FUCKEN HONDA , NEVER AGAIN , I BOUGHT A BRAND NEW FIRE BLADE AND IT WAS A LEMON OUT OF THE CRATE , I HARDLY GOT TO RIDE THAT PIECE OF SHIT IT SPENT MOST OF ITS TIME ON THE BACK OF A UTE, EVERY MANUFACTURER HAVE A LEMON NOW AND THEN ITS HOW THEY HANDLE IT THAT COUNT AND HONDA FAILED FUCKEN MISERABLY.
FUCK HONDA
Bonez
31st July 2006, 18:39
I thought faulty CDIs on these is a known problem and can be sorted under warrenty.
Some info here-
http://korider.com/forum/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=5475&sid=7cc4039976bd921f24e33b632cd9cd5d
limbimtimwim
31st July 2006, 18:53
The vehicle is unfit for the purpose you purchased it for.
You are entitled to you money back.
http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/businessinfo/cga/motorvehicles.html#serious
Don't get angry, don't scream and yell, just say you've had enough of this, you are here to collect your money. Screaming and yelling isn't fair, I've been on the other end of screaming and yelling and it ruins your week much worse than a misbehaving bike. Firm but polite. Inform them that you know your rights.
You do not have to accept a credit with them. They way I read it, they are footing the bill for all costs incurred while you had the bike. That means rego, wof, first service and any costs incurred if you used finance.
Having said that, do offer them a chance to be creative in ways of putting things right.
They are awful bikes anyway.
imdying
31st July 2006, 19:10
If you won't pay for the time,and Hyosung won't pay for the time...then they will be reluctant to foot the bill themselves,afterall it's not really their problem.I have the same problem in my game - no one will pay for diagnosis,and until someone does,the job doesn't get fixed.You bought the bike in good faith,they sold the bike in good faith....did Hyosung build the bike in good faith?Not his problem... as the retailer, the buck stops with them. Unfortunate for them, but if they didn't correctly budget for problems like this when taking on a shitty Korean brand then they're fools.
JimO
31st July 2006, 19:30
geez winger .......... wind it in a bit will you..... you come across as a total dick
WINJA
31st July 2006, 20:05
geez winger .......... wind it in a bit will you..... you come across as a total dick
THATS JUST YOUR OPINION COCKSUCKER , WAIT TILL YOU SPEND $20,000 ON A BIKE AND IT DOESNT GO AND NO CUNT WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT IT THEN SEE HOW YOU FEEL , I THINK ITS IMPORTANT TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT THE SHIT HEADS OUT THERE IN THE INDUSTRY
Well talked to the manager of the shop about it and seems as if they are honestly trying to fix the situation so I suppose i'll see what happens :mellow:
sAsLEX
1st August 2006, 14:19
Well talked to the manager of the shop about it and seems as if they are honestly trying to fix the situation so I suppose i'll see what happens :mellow:
DO you have a loan bike provided whilst yours is out of action, I would suggest a demo Hyobag would be easy enough for them to warrent handing out
Jsn
12th August 2006, 14:33
Ok, Bike is now back in my hands after the 4th time in the shop. They have said they cannot find the problem @ all after riding the bike to hamilton and back. As soon as I got the bike back I rode it up the albany hill / oteha valley rd onramp and it promptly cut out and left me standing on the side of the road.
They suggested that I get a second opinion on the matter as they can't find the problem.
So what I am asking for is for a friendly mechanic who lives on the shore (preferably) to come for a little ride with me in albany.. I will pick up and drop you off of course.. There might even be a free red bull or something on the cards :)
So if there are any mechanics who have 45mins / 1 hour free today or tomorrow I would be very grateful for some help :yes:
sAsLEX
12th August 2006, 15:14
So they rode it all the way to hamilton and back?
Fuck ask for a new bike theres a few km on the clock now that wont help when you try to sell it so I would be asking for a refund.
Maybe borrow a camera and record the event from someone following in a car?!?
Evidence is something they cannot deny whereas your word aint as good to them.
Jsn
12th August 2006, 15:21
Yeha i want to try and get a letter or phonecall to them from a qualified mechanic so they can't deny that there is a problem. Problem is finding a mechanic on a weekend lol.. they're all out riding it seems :rockon:
sAsLEX
12th August 2006, 15:31
Video evidence must be enough, the fact you have been without your vehicle for so long and it continues to need to go to the shop should mean they have to replace it.
It would suck for hyosung if you confirmed everyones opinion that they back up a crap product with crap service, maybe contact them directly?
Jsn
12th August 2006, 15:35
Yeah Video eveidence could be enough I suppose.. Its probably just easier for a mechanic guy to hop on the back and go for a blat tho.. and yeah i'm getting pretty sick of taking the bike back. Still has frame rust which hasn't been sorted.
Mr. Peanut
12th August 2006, 17:14
They would of drained the carbs to check for water,often the problem when missing up hills (fuel moves to the taps and into carbs).In intermittent cutting out is just that,intermittent - if it won't do it in the shop they have very little to go on can only do a few checks.It can take hours to sort these things out,ideally the mechanic rides around until it happens,then he can diagnose.If you won't pay for the time,and Hyosung won't pay for the time...then they will be reluctant to foot the bill themselves,afterall it's not really their problem.I have the same problem in my game - no one will pay for diagnosis,and until someone does,the job doesn't get fixed.You bought the bike in good faith,they sold the bike in good faith....did Hyosung build the bike in good faith?
Had a similar problem with my SJ125, can't fix a bike with no problem. :angry:
I just let the mechanics ride it for a week until it stuffed up again. :blip:
Turned out to be a *well* placed ignition connection around the suspension area. Bike bumped around a bit it would disconnect. Only to reconnect on random.
Fuck I hate electrics.
Hellraiser
12th August 2006, 17:23
Take it into Red Baron or Spectrum and tell them the CDI is faulty they will get a replacement under warranty.
Jsn
12th August 2006, 18:52
Yeah I went to spectrum today to see if someone could hop on the back and come and witness it cutting out but they were closed eh. Will have to go on monday I suppose.. And it only starts cutting out on hills which would indicate that it isn't a CDI issue? I could be wrong tho, I'm a far cry from being a mechanic.
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 18:53
Ok, Bike is now back in my hands after the 4th time in the shop. They have said they cannot find the problem @ all after riding the bike to hamilton and back. As soon as I got the bike back I rode it up the albany hill / oteha valley rd onramp and it promptly cut out and left me standing on the side of the road.
They suggested that I get a second opinion on the matter as they can't find the problem.
So what I am asking for is for a friendly mechanic who lives on the shore (preferably) to come for a little ride with me in albany.. I will pick up and drop you off of course.. There might even be a free red bull or something on the cards :)
So if there are any mechanics who have 45mins / 1 hour free today or tomorrow I would be very grateful for some help :yes:
Can you elaborate on what happens when the bike cuts out, every detail, from approximate speed, RPM, incline/decline, road conditions, etc...
Your problem sounds like the generic side stand switch that has crapped out, but if they've checked that then it must be something else. If it only ever happens going up a incline then its even more strange.
I know a bit about Hyosung bikes now, have ridden quite a few pulled a few apart and know most of the common problems.
Most of which come down to three things:
1. NZ's poor fuel quality
2. Poor storage of the bike
3. Poor assembly by the Dealer
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 18:55
Yeah I went to spectrum today to see if someone could hop on the back and come and witness it cutting out but they were closed eh. Will have to go on monday I suppose.. And it only starts cutting out on hills which would indicate that it isn't a CDI issue? I could be wrong tho, I'm a far cry from being a mechanic.
Have they physically inspected or replaced the side stand switch? The problem you are describing sounds exactly that. When my switch crapped out it would play up on inclines and declines and occasionally in corners if the peg/side stand was scraping.
sAsLEX
12th August 2006, 18:56
1. NZ's poor fuel quality
2. Poor storage of the bike
3. Poor assembly by the Dealer
ummm other brands cope
so i redid the list
1. Korean
2. Cheap
3. New to the market
Jsn
12th August 2006, 18:59
Ok, sure can!
When going up a LONG steepish incline, Sitting @ about 9k rpm or taking it to about 10k in each gear, you will get most of the way to the top and being doing about ~90kmh in 4th? then it will start bouncing down 1000rpm then back up.. it will do this every few seconds.
Lately tho it has been cutting out completely and going to 0rpm (with electrics still functioning) and then it will suddenly jump back to the wherever you have the throttle at at the time.. it will keep doing this until you lose all power forcing you to pull over, then the engine stalls. once it has started doing this it will continue cutting out a little bit even on flat road it you give it some revs.
I have had 2 instances where the sidestand has been at fault, and when that happened it eouldn't even go into gear without stalling.
Any opinions on what it could be would be helpful.. you could even take it for a ride if ur keen :)
Jsn
12th August 2006, 19:00
Oh right.. when you start it again it starts fine till it starts cutting again.
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 19:00
ummm other brands cope
so i redid the list
1. Korean
2. Cheap
3. New to the market
They are new to market and like all the other brands when they were developing their products there were teething issues. Unless you can speak from experience, your prejudiced comments based on other peoples experiences is worthless regarding Hyosung.
If someone has a problem with their Hyosung, they'll bitch and moan about it and make as much fuss as possible, but you won't hear the thousands of other owners who enjoy their bike and have no gripes.
Just like the GSX-R frames snapping in half.
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 19:05
Hey dude, definitely sounds like your side stand switch is nakered.
Cut the wire that goes to it from the little black box (the side stand switch) and then expose the copper of the two wires and twist them togeather, then cover it up with electrical tape.
Your bike will function normally.
Try riding it with it like that and I think you'll find there wont be any problems.
Either way, Mt. Eden will replace the switch for you if it is proven to be the problem. It was in my case, I had the exact same problem as you described. It cut out on my while over taking a car and I almost had a head on with a truck. So I pulled over and chopped it off on the spot and I've never had a problem since.
Mt. Eden are pretty good to deal with from my experience so they should be pretty keen to help you out and find a solution. My Fuel tap started leaking due to the rubber perishing, our fuel has a lot of additives in it and the particular rubber used obviously can't handle it.
Anyway, my warranty was over (had done 18,000km) and they still replaced it on the spot, free of charge.
Jsn
12th August 2006, 19:10
Cheers for the info.. will go outside now and chop the wire. I think they are sick of seeing my bike eh.. they have now oficially done more km's on it than I have.. spent 4 weeks in the shop so far. You'd think that if your bike had the same problem they would pick it up on mine? they told me they have never had a single problem with the gt250r's apart from shitty batteries..
Mr. Peanut
12th August 2006, 19:16
they have never had a single problem with the gt250r's apart from shitty batteries..
Of course not, they've had far more than one :lol:
Should be a nice reliable bike once you've got that naggle sorted.
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 19:16
I only had the fuel tap replaced the other day, I actually rang in and asked them to order me the fuel tap at a cost of $130 so I could replace it myself. But I rode in there and they said to take it down to the workshop, in half an hour they had it sorted.
As for the side stand switch, I never bothered to tell them about it because my warranty had expired anyway. If you look around on the internet you'll find heaps of people have the same problem. Basically its just a shitty/cheap component, gets a lot of water, oil and other shit thrown at it and the vibration wouldn't help either.
Don't know why the mechanics never experienced the problem though, they may not of been riding it the same as you. At 9,000 RPM that's 1,500 RPM off redline and there is a bit of vibration going through the bike.
Then again I road my bike about 3,000 km after first experiencing the problem, then it would happen every 20 or 40 km and sometimes not for a few hundred km. If I didn't go over 7,000 rpm / 105 kmp/h it would never happen.
Jsn
12th August 2006, 19:22
Hm theres some pretty solid rain going on outside.. might wait till it stops. You got your baffles removed yet swan?
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 19:25
Nah, hopefully getting a new bike next week once I've put new sprockets on. I'm going to debaffle my girlfriends GV 250 cruiser though, well, remove the end caps anyway.
Scouse
12th August 2006, 19:31
Hyosung the Skoda of Motorcycles
terbang
12th August 2006, 19:39
Hyosung the Skoda of Motorcycles
Saw a Hyosung on the Coro loop today. No speed triples though, must have been too wet for them..
crazybigal
12th August 2006, 19:41
FUCK! what a bunch of dicks!
why dont they just swap the cdi unit out and see what happens!
did they give you a loaner to ride while your bike is in the shop? Id be asking for one.!
If you want your $$$bling back, the longer you leave it the worse your chances will be!
call fair go! allways a good plan!
as far as the rust goes, well thats got to give you a good case!
I tell you i wouldnt be in a hurry to be buyn a gt comet, I saw one that had a minor smack, frame just buckled! .cheap bike, cheap quality! thats life!
Jsn
12th August 2006, 19:48
Yeah Frame rust still not fixed.. doesn't look like they plan on it either.. solicitors are expensive tho :( Still hard to believe after 1000km of testriding they didn't experience the fault... then I hop on for 10 mins and it happens.
SwanTiger
12th August 2006, 21:40
Where do you keep your bike JSN? I've ridden in the rain a lot, done over 18,000 km and don't have any rust on my frame. The only place that does have rust is on certain parts of the muffler, however I fixed that by sandpaper and some paint shit that seals it, I forget the name. But its the heat resistant stuff you can buy from any old hardware store.
EDIT: Again that just proves one of my points about teething and dealer assembly. The rubber bits that went on my pegs fell off after a few thousand KM, the screws vibrated loose. In my opinion, that is something the dealer can easily fix at assembly by using loctite or some other method to keep the rubber bit on the peg. Same goes with the muffler rusting, 10 minutes to sand and repaint the parts that will rust (usually around the welds were the two exhuasts become one). Same goes with the standard shinko shitty tyres, for about $300 you can get front and rear diablo's (if I recall correctly) - or at least for around $300 you can get decent tyres. For almost $7,500 new you'd think that they'd do this.
Again... look at the GSX-R frames that snap in half, or the ZX exhuast that had to be recalled 'cos they leaked or some shit. Every brand has their faults and will always continue to have faults. As WINJA in all his wisdom once said, its about making it right that counts and Kawasaki seem to do an okay job of it.
sAsLEX
12th August 2006, 23:16
Again... look at the GSX-R frames that snap in half, or the ZX exhuast that had to be recalled 'cos they leaked or some shit. Every brand has their faults and will always continue to have faults. As WINJA in all his wisdom once said, its about making it right that counts and Kawasaki seem to do an okay job of it.
And ...calling WINJA what are suzi like with warrenty claims? huh
and a recall thats admitting a fault and rectifying it not riding the bike to hamilton and back and claiming nothings wrong and continually removing someones means of transport from them, fuck if you wanted to pay 7k to lug a bike back to the shop you may as well by a late 80s ducati in shit condition.
The_Dover
12th August 2006, 23:23
Just like the GSX-R frames snapping in half.
big difference between shit house production standards causing failures in everyday use and parts failing in a crash swampy.
don't get me wrong, I had a handbag once, but their qc is about as good as KFC's.
Jsn
13th August 2006, 00:06
Yeah I've also had one of the exhaust bolts fall off at some point, and the bolts that hold the rubber footpeg things on have fallen out.. and the exhaust is rusty as around the entire seams (cut open (AND RE-WELDED) to remove baffles). It's not like it gets stored in the rain either.. usually sits in the lockup at work or in the bike shop lol :S..I think it might just be bad finishing by hyosung for the most part. still .. back to the shop 4 times and still nothing has been done about the rust.. it is on 1 weld on the frame and a couple of other nooks and crannies. Surely a good paint job would have stopped this problem before it began!:nono:
SwanTiger
13th August 2006, 00:28
Have you cut that kill switch wire yet?
If it isn't the kill switch then it'll be one of your coils, I had one on my bike crap out at around 1,500km on the clock, was replaced under warranty. The symptoms were slightly different however, as the bike would still run on one cylinder happily, but sudden loss and regain of power all the same.
As for Mt Eden not solving the problem yet, it's hard for them to replace something under warranty when there is no obvious problem to them. If they don't know what is wrong, they can't just go replacing things willy nilly to problem solve as they wont be reimbursed for it.
Hyosungs finish isn't the best, but if you look after the bike it lives through anything.
Jsn
13th August 2006, 00:34
Nah i'll cut the switch in the morning .. don't fancy getting soaked right now :(
WINJA
13th August 2006, 10:14
And ...calling WINJA what are suzi like with warrenty claims? huh
and a recall thats admitting a fault and rectifying it not riding the bike to hamilton and back and claiming nothings wrong and continually removing someones means of transport from them, fuck if you wanted to pay 7k to lug a bike back to the shop you may as well by a late 80s ducati in shit condition.
JUST TO CLRIFY , ARE YOU HAVING WARRANTY ISSUES WITH A SUZUKI , IF SO DETAILS PLEASE .
I STILL CANT SEE HOW ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY BE WORSE THAN HONDA FOR WARRANTY CLAIMS
Hellraiser
13th August 2006, 10:19
Be carefull if you cut and join the wires on the switch yourself then technically you have voided the warranty same with your de baffled exhaust even though it was done by Mt Eden it has still voided the factory warranty.
limbimtimwim
13th August 2006, 11:45
Don't cut the wire.
Get the dealer to do the work.
It is under warranty.
sprocket
13th August 2006, 12:05
Dam this thread has opened my eyes about the hyosung brand, i didnt realise how tempremental they could be, bummer JSN I feel for you dude
WINJA
13th August 2006, 13:06
Arse Fuck ....
Jsn
14th August 2006, 18:35
But how am i supposed to get them to replace the sidestand switch?
"right, you guys have done 1000km of testriding and had the bike for 4 1/2 weeks and are hyosung mechanics, and you don't think that theres a problem.. but I've been on the net for 5 mins and you need to replace this...."
Don't think they are gonna take it too well just quietly
SwanTiger
14th August 2006, 18:53
I'll be in there tomorrow picking up some stuff, I'll mention it to them if you like.
Titanium
14th August 2006, 19:29
Be carefull if you cut and join the wires on the switch yourself then technically you have voided the warranty same with your de baffled exhaust even though it was done by Mt Eden it has still voided the factory warranty.
Disagree, the problem must be directly related (proven) to the "modification".
A warranty on frame rust can not be turned down because you have a modified exhaust, like wise an "electrical issue".
If you are talking valves, pistons, head etc it may have a different significance.
Still would not cut the wires though, it would in no way help your cause.
Just my 10 cents worth (cause 5c aint allowed anymore).
Gremlin
15th August 2006, 10:02
Just as a side note, and I think others have mentioned, if your problem is now and then, and the shop cannot replicate what you are talking about, then they have nothing to work on.
I haven't had any problems with Mt Eden, but find them extremely busy, and normally need things done on the spot, or soon... like yesterday :innocent:
I'm currently living with some running problem, and haven't got the shop to look at it, simply because I'm trying to find an exact way that it happens. Get as much information as possible, and if its guaranteed, tell them how to replicate it.
As soon as it happens for them, then 1, they'll believe you, and 2, have something to go on.
sAsLEX
15th August 2006, 11:05
Just as a side note, and I think others have mentioned, if your problem is now and then, and the shop cannot replicate what you are talking about, then they have nothing to work on.
I haven't had any problems with Mt Eden, but find them extremely busy, and normally need things done on the spot, or soon... like yesterday :innocent:
I'm currently living with some running problem, and haven't got the shop to look at it, simply because I'm trying to find an exact way that it happens. Get as much information as possible, and if its guaranteed, tell them how to replicate it.
As soon as it happens for them, then 1, they'll believe you, and 2, have something to go on.
Ummmm your bike is ten years old, his is like ten weeks, most new vehicles dont have running gremlins but this seems the norm for Hyosung.
Gremlin
15th August 2006, 12:55
true... but electrics are electrics...
the point of the post was that you may have a problem, but if its intermittent, and the mechanics can't experience/re-create it, then to them, there's no problem...
sAsLEX
15th August 2006, 13:00
true... but electrics are electrics...
the point of the post was that you may have a problem, but if its intermittent, and the mechanics can't experience/re-create it, then to them, there's no problem...
How many Suzukis do you see here, k5 k6 etc , complaining about electrical gremlins????
Let me see none!
Electrics on a brand new bike have no reason to fail as they should of been tested at the factory and again by the store before selling, this has gone on too far and he should of been offered a replacement or his money back at this stage as he has seen less of his bike than the mechanics!
Limb
15th August 2006, 13:52
Sorry to hear the trouble your having Jsn. I havn't got any good advice except to say don't give up on your Hyosung.
Take it to another kawasaki dealership, get it fixed and keep your bike.
My GT650 has done over 9k now and is as good as the day i bought it. All my riding is on the Coromandal and my style aggresive. My bike never faulters and takes everything i throw at it. It would take take me for ever to list the good points of choosing a Hyosung.
Jsn
15th August 2006, 20:28
Dont' get me wrong.. I do like the bike.. it looks the part and its got enough go juice for me at this stage. And its not too bad to ride either. I probably will keep the bike in the long run seeing as I can't get a replacement or refund.
Would be interested to see how much more power the 650's have..
limbimtimwim
15th August 2006, 20:49
Why can't you get a replacement or refund?!
Mr. Peanut
15th August 2006, 21:36
Here's a tip. If you don't think you can pursuede them to give you your money back, find someone psychotic, tell them your tale of woe, and let them 'sort it out' :angry:
Shadows
16th August 2006, 00:33
Just like the GSX-R frames snapping in half.
I know some one who had that happen to his GSXR.
At the same time he happened to be t-boning a car at around the ton, so I don't think the make of bike was very relevant in this case.
TLDV8
16th August 2006, 10:11
Lately tho it has been cutting out completely and going to 0rpm (with electrics still functioning) and then it will suddenly jump back to the wherever you have the throttle at at the time..
If the other electrics were still working but the tacho was dropping to 0 on the run,the cause could be a coil if the tacho is a basic electronic unit getting an imput off the coils. ? ......As far as the sidestand switch it should have some kind of plug (not hardwired to the wiring loom)....... You could simply bridge that plug from the loom with a short length of insulated wire ( just the ends bared ) and tape it for a non destructive test.If the shop does not have the ability to trouble shoot outside the square,do it yourself.
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Of course the flipside is electric problems can be fickle...... I had a problem with a 323 Turbo cutting out irregularly at idle........ The cause found in the end,the anti detonation box was faulty and was retarding the timing enough to stall the engine.. Like that took 5 minutes to trouble shoot.
Yellow Streak
22nd August 2006, 00:16
After owning my GT250 for 1 year and 20,000 Kms, I have to say that this big little bike is absolutly bullit proof!
I have performance modified it extensivley and riden it hard, but always observed service intervals. The one and only problem I have had is a momentary loss of power if I linger around 5000 rpm. The simple remedy is to change gear, up OR down, and give it more gas. Or just be patient.
I hear from other owners that they experience the same problem. My guess as to it's cause is that the twin Mikuni carbs are short fueling whilst the transition between the pilot and main jet is occuring.
I could have had it fixed under warranty but decided it wasn't worth the hassle of being without my bike indefinatly.
I have also heard other stories of faults with electrical parts (made in China NOT Korea) that can leave you stranded by the road side. But so far (touch wood!) I have been spared that unpleasant inconvieniance.
So in short it seems that owning a Hyosung is a bit of a lottery.
As for Mt Eden MC, I have always found them to be a bunch of diamond geezers. It's not for nowt that they are #1 for sales this year.
Keep it rubber side down!
Streak.
P.S. I have my full license now.
FOR SALE: Hotted up red Hyosung Comet GT250S (thats the naked one). Includes Givi screen and loads more noise and performance than the standard factory setup!
Direct inquiries to this thread or just come and talk to me at the Cold Kiwi.
Just look for the naked one!!
SwanTiger
22nd August 2006, 00:19
P.S. I have my full license now.
What are you going to buy next, the GT650 perhaps? :yes:
Yellow Streak
22nd August 2006, 00:33
Oh wait their's more!
imdying
22nd August 2006, 18:04
I have performance modified it extensivley and riden it hard, but always observed service intervals.Sounds cool... what have you had done?
Yellow Streak
22nd August 2006, 21:48
Re jetted carbs, open baffle exhaust and a smaller rear sprocket to give the gears longer legs.
Maha
22nd August 2006, 22:55
longer legs.
Only shorty's need em'.................:wari:
Congrats on the full too btw streaker.............:Punk:
R6_kid
23rd August 2006, 08:14
looking forward to uni holidays when my R6 is gonna be in the shop. I told the mechanic that my second gear jumps out for a split second under load, and that it first started happening during wheelies - now i'd like to see them replicate that!
I have to drop the engine out and take it in to them to save money but it's still going to be a week to find out exactly what needs replacing and then to order and fit the parts.
Best of luck with sorting the problem, being without a bike sucks big time.
Kyle
23rd August 2006, 08:20
Ok firstly sorry if this has been posted before, in a little rush and havnt read all posts. On the issue of hyosung cutting out, i have heard that the side stand switch is the cause in many cases. Basiclly its on a hair trigger and as you go over bumps the stand bounces down alittle, activating the cut out function, can either get a stronger stand spring, adjust the switch or disconnect it completly. As for rusting, do you leave it outside in the weather or garage it? personaly i recomend garaging it, however hyosung is rather new in the market and while not quite a "bottom of the line" chinese brand bike you do get what you pay for. It doesnt surprize me at all that its started rusting already. If it was me id take it back and trade it for a japenese bike (honda, susuki, kawasaki, yamaha) and pay the difference. In the long run it`ll problery work out cheaper anyway. Just my 10cents worth (they phazed out 1, 2 and 5 cent so it has to be 10cents sorry)
Yellow Streak
13th December 2006, 22:08
Sorry to hear the trouble your having Jsn. I havn't got any good advice except to say don't give up on your Hyosung.
Take it to another kawasaki dealership, get it fixed and keep your bike.
My GT650 has done over 9k now and is as good as the day i bought it. All my riding is on the Coromandal and my style aggresive. My bike never faulters and takes everything i throw at it. It would take take me for ever to list the good points of choosing a Hyosung.
Yeah I just bought one. She boogeys more like a thou! Bloody marvelous.
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