Home Defence

[James Deuce]

More Gun Porn, but this time from a Bike Manufacturer.

It's Italian, so you need an ankle length leather coat, slicked back hair or a shaved dome and $500 shoes to be allowed to carry this delightfully styled weapon.

For some reason the 3.5in Ultra Magnum round appeals to me.

http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/benellinovajb.htm

[Sniper]

Thats something that appeals to me. Wonder if it can be set up as a sentury gun?

[scumdog]

'One word Kimmy' - solid slugs!!

[awesker]

I dont really like the look of that, i reckon a shotgun needs to have a 'fuckoff' factor, that looks to soft .. bring on the mossberg 590 mil spec!

http://www.guncity.co.nz/xurl/function/viewprd/prd_id/109668/12ga-mossberg-590-milspec.html

[James Deuce]

This would be a better sentry gun I reckon.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh19-e.htm

Still styley too.

[James Deuce]

I dont really like the look of that, i reckon a shotgun needs to have a 'fuckoff' factor, that looks to soft .. bring on the mossberg 590 mil spec!

http://www.guncity.co.nz/xurl/function/viewprd/prd_id/109668/12ga-mossberg-590-milspec.html

I prefer a reliable waterproof weapon thanks. Last time I stripped a Mossberg, I stripped the ejector retaining screw. Then I made coffee with the water that poured out of the mag.

[Sniper]

Im not a fan of Mossbergs. Heard and seen too many bad things. And like Jim said, you need to be concious of what you do and where you take them. If you want a good all rounder, go for the Ithaca Mac 10 :D

[spudchucka]

Hmmmmmm, we wants it precious......

[awesker]

woah true, never new that! i just liked the look of them..
cheers for the heads up, i was thinking of grabbing one near the end of year... was. :)

[James Deuce]

Awww LOOKITTHAT!

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh06-e.htm

[James Deuce]

Hmmmmmm, we wants it precious......

You need the Tactical:

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh21-e.htm

[scumdog]

Gotta a cheapy 8-shot pump-action with sights, reliable as the dawn and shoots a 4" group with slugs at 50 yards, ideal defence weapon for anything under 75 or so yards imho.:yes:

[spudchucka]

You need the Tactical:

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh21-e.htm
I like this thread so far.

[SARGE]

Gotta a cheapy 8-shot pump-action with sights, reliable as the dawn and shoots a 4" group with slugs at 50 yards, ideal defence weapon for anything under 75 or so yards imho.:yes:


i run a Mossberg 5500 semi auto with an 18 3/4" barrel, 5 round mag extender, pistol grip and flashlight mount back home. normal load is 3" 00 Magnum Hi-Brass home cooked plastic shells..


stay with what ya know i guess.. never had an issue with the Mossbergs personally.. im a pedantic bastard on my cleaning though..

[Sniper]

im a pedantic bastard on my cleaning though..
Im the same but only with my rifles :shutup:

[James Deuce]

stay with what ya know i guess.. never had an issue with the Mossbergs personally.. im a pedantic bastard on my cleaning though..

Good point. Never play with someone else's weapon.

[SARGE]

Good point. Never play with someone else's weapon.


yea .. i carried one in the service..found one in a gun shop in the UP of Michigan and had to have it ..great entry weapon.. take a door right off the hinges..back that up with an M203 and a few MP-5's and you got a party..

we had 2 M60's as shoulder weapons in the platoon too...An M40A1 watched over us from on high

god .. im gettin a chubby just thinkin about it .

[gijoe1313]

25mm Barret for taking out idiot cage drivers would be nice! And plinking away on 44 gallon drums, concrete structures and the occasional rabbit! Yowsa! :shutup: but I'll stick to my Dad's Lee Enfield heh!

[Swoop]

Awww LOOKITTHAT!

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh06-e.htm

Hope it is more reliable than the SPAS-12. Those sods are a nightmare reliability wise.

[James Deuce]

Hope it is more reliable than the SPAS-12. Those sods are a nightmare reliability wise.

I have doubts about owning anything called "SPAS", but I do like how it looks nothing like a shotty.

[Swoop]

I have doubts about owning anything called "SPAS", but I do like how it looks nothing like a shotty.
Pronounced "Spasssssssss" not spaz!:innocent:
Heavy as all fuck, and selectable from pump to self-loading.
Looks mean too (as you have rightly pointed out!).

[sAsLEX]

Wonder if it can be set up as a sentury gun?


You want the automated .50cal barrett tripods as in MI3!

[SARGE]

You want the automated .50cal barrett tripods as in MI3!


the M82 Sniper Rifle? (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm)

[Swoop]

the M82 Sniper Rifle? (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm)
*DROOL*:yes: :yes:

[Sniper]

the M82 Sniper Rifle? (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm)
Fuck that things a pig to handel. Stopping power and Wow factor it has plenty of, but unless you are shooting long range its a fucken pain. I wish it came standard with some deep heat too.

But you know what..... I still love it :D

[sAsLEX]

Fuck that things a pig to handel. Stopping power and Wow factor it has plenty of, but unless you are shooting long range its a fucken pain. I wish it came standard with some deep heat too.

But you know what..... I still love it :D

SARGE yes but on an automated remote robotic style tripod, shoot by remote kinda of thing



They make a lighter weight version Sniper rather than luging the big thing round.

You should see the size of some of the anti material rifles coming out 20mm and bigger, with some interesting recoil reducers!

[SARGE]

SARGE yes but on an automated remote robotic style tripod, shoot by remote kinda of thing


oh but where's the fun ( or sport) in THAT???



They make a lighter weight version Sniper rather than luging the big thing round.


case in point:


An Army grunt stands in the rain with a 35-pound pack on his back, 15 lb. weapon in hand, after having marched 12 miles, and says,"This is shit!"

An Army Airborne Ranger stands in the rain with a 45 lb. pack on his back, weapon in hand, after having jumped from an airplane and marched 18 miles, and says with a smile,
"This is good shit!"

A Navy SEAL lies in the mud, 55 LB pack on his back, weapon in hand, after swimming 10 miles to shore, crawling through a swamp and marching 25 miles at night past the enemy positions, says with a grin, "This really is great shit."

A Marine, up to his nose in the stinking, bug infested mud of a swamp with a 65 LB pack on his back and a weapon in both hands after jumping from an aircraft at high altitude, into the ocean, swimming 12 miles to the shore, killing several alligators to enter the swamp, then crawling
30 miles through the brush to assault an enemy camp, says,
"I love this shit."

The Air Force NCO sits in an easy chair in an air-conditioned office, and says,
"My e-mail's out? What kind of shit is this?"




You should see the size of some of the anti material rifles coming out 20mm and bigger, with some interesting recoil reducers!

modern warfare eh?.. im part of the old school i guess.. i'd rather smash a door and chuck a few flash-bangs in to gt thier attention

i've always been called " assertive" though

[Dooly]

I love guns.

Alas my gun cabinets are full so my pump action shotty has to sit behind the bedroom door.
Theres no room for a box of shells for it in the cabinets, so that has to sit in the bedroom suite drawer.
Maybe I should make room................:blip:

[Sniper]

Smartarse...

[sAsLEX]

modern warfare eh?.. im part of the old school i guess.. i'd rather smash a door and chuck a few flash-bangs in to gt thier attention

i've always been called " assertive" though

Funny thing is though just as these AM rifles are coming to the fore, your in your face Urban warfare is still one of the more "popular" theatres for modern combat!

You read much of Cussler? He likes to portray your Recon just like that, HAHO HALO and all sorts of fun stuff.

It was Browning 50 cal with a side mounted scope that had the longest confirmed kill wasnt it Sniper?

[Mental Trousers]

If I didn't know you're all only mildly psychotic I'd be worried.

[SARGE]

I love guns.

Alas my gun cabinets are full so my pump action shotty has to sit behind the bedroom door.
Theres no room for a box of shells for it in the cabinets, so that has to sit in the bedroom suite drawer.
Maybe I should make room................:blip:


i dont have any guns here so i stick with an alloy softball bat

nothing more frightening at 3 am when you are breaking into a house than a naked 240 pound psychopath swinging a ballbat

[SARGE]

Funny thing is though just as these AM rifles are coming to the fore, your in your face Urban warfare is still one of the more "popular" theatres for modern combat!

You read much of Cussler? He likes to portray your Recon just like that, HAHO HALO and all sorts of fun stuff.

It was Browning 50 cal with a side mounted scope that had the longest confirmed kill wasnt it Sniper?


theres a few really nice SNIPER (http://www.sniperworld.com/) sites around


The longest-ever confirmed sniper kill was made by Master Cpl. Arron Perry of the Canadian Armed Forces in Afghanistan during combat in 2003. Using a .50-caliber MacMillan TAC-50 rifle, Perry shot and killed an Afghan soldier from a distance of 2,430 metres.

The record was set during Operation Anaconda when a Canadian three-man sniper team from the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, (PPCLI), set the new record with a shot on a Taliban fighter

That's about 1.5 miles That, my friends, is a truly amazing feat. The bullet was in the air for four seconds and dropped 146 feet. About 250 meters longer than Carlos Hathcock's famous shot.

[Lias]

I'd happily sell my grandmother for one of these.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn25-e.htm

[Sniper]

Sarge got there before I did. There are UNCONFIRMED kills of up to 2700m, but as they are unconfirmed, they cant be counted. Bloody good shot by the canadian though. Must have met me at some stage.


I'd happily sell my grandmother for one of these.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn25-e.htm
Its so Purdy......

[Sniper]

www.adoptasniper.com :D

These guys get my support

[Wolf]

I'd happily sell my grandmother for one of these.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn25-e.htm
There are those who don't know Lias who say he'd sell his own mother for a great firearm.

Those of us who know him know that is not true.

Lias would sell his own mother for even a crappy firearm; for a great firearm he'd sell his mother and grandparents and throw in a couple of his cousins...

[SARGE]

There are those who don't know Lias who say he'd sell his own mother for a great firearm.

Those of us who know him know that is not true.

Lias would sell his own mother for even a crappy firearm; for a great firearm he'd sell his mother and grandparents and throw in a couple of his cousins...


hey Lias..

how much would ya give me for my granny?

[Wolf]

hey Lias..

how much would ya give me for my granny?
Cut the bulshit, SARGE, we all know that ain't ya granny!



We know it's you in drag...

[thehollowmen]

[It's Italian, so you need an ankle length leather coat, slicked back hair or a shaved dome and $500 shoes

I have all of those :-D

now to get a gun license

[sAsLEX]

I have all of those :-D

now to get a gun license

Think a dirty big compound bow would be just as intimidating, or maybe a cross bow!

[SARGE]

Cut the bulshit, SARGE, we all know that ain't ya granny!



We know it's you in drag...


damn .. busted..

[SARGE]

packed one of these in the car when i worked in a few biker bars.. any old break breach double barrel you could buy at a garage sale for $25

gawd bless America...



ok... i win (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m249-short-saw.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m249.htm&h=393&w=653&sz=30&tbnid=1VbE97jqZ0fNDM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dm249%2Bsaw&start=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=1)....

[sAsLEX]

nup I do

<img src=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m-60e3-dvic553.jpg>
<img src=http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m60mg-sa.jpg>

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m60e3.htm

5.56 is for pansies and fairies

[Sniper]

Fuck that, I win

<img src=http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Sep2000/000905-M-0000R-002_screen.jpg></img src>
<img src=https://srp.army.mil/images/lm/l2_p9_2.gif></img src>

[SARGE]

nup I do




yea .. my platoon had 2 of those.. we split them between 2 fireteams.. the weapons platoon had a shitload of them, 40mm mortars and A/T LAWS, and the forerunner to the Dragon System also.. all that in a rapidly deployable MAU (24 hours on the ground anywhere in the world)

the M249 came in right when i was leaving the service in the mid 80's

[SARGE]

Fuck that, I win



yea .. lug one of those 20 km through the soft sand ..

off ya go..

[Sniper]

yea .. lug one of those 20 km through the soft sand ..

off ya go..

I thought we were talking for home defence :blip:

I'll keep my M21 close at hand if I need to be walking anywhere

[SARGE]

I thought we were talking for home defence :blip:

I'll keep my M21 close at hand if I need to be walking anywhere


since we are getting silly...

[Sniper]

Hey if it works it works right?? :p

[sAsLEX]

since we are getting silly...

I will have the one on the left and a very very deep and secure panic/safe room in the house

<img src=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/moab-comp.gif>

[ManDownUnder]

I just pity the poor bastard about to be Dovered by the 4 explosive devices surrounding him


I will have the one on the left and a very very deep and secure panic/safe room in the house

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/moab-comp.gif

[Colapop]

We like gun porn!!

[sAsLEX]

We like gun porn!!
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24252&d=1137622483

[doc]

You wankers are a bunch of armchair experts, who I think spend too much time surfing dreaming and then start to believe that you could do that too. Sniping is one of the most boring of skills and the most uncomfortable, the skills of a sniper don"t appear until after you have fired the shot. A sniper use to be one of the most despised soldiers in the battalion and selection is based on a pschological profile of a low life can't ...tossers like you think its fashionable because you experience it from playstation and DVD, go get some experience then we will see if you spend all your time dreaming, some of you may feel more than recoil when you pop the shot.

[Wolf]

You wankers are a bunch of armchair experts, who I think spend too much time surfing dreaming and then start to believe that you could do that too. Sniping is one of the most boring of skills and the most uncomfortable, the skills of a sniper don"t appear until after you have fired the shot. A sniper use to be one of the most despised soldiers in the battalion and selection is based on a pschological profile of a low life can't ...tossers like you think its fashionable because you experience it from playstation and DVD, go get some experience then we will see if you spend all your time dreaming, some of you may feel more than recoil when you pop the shot.
Lias, Momentum, Road-Rash, get on your bikes, someone swing by wysper's place, we gotta head South - we're too fucking close to Pukekohe and all hell's gonna break loose up there.

FYI, doc, SARGE and Sniper are actually so named because of their former professions, and did you consider there might be a reason for the "s"es on either side of the "A" in Alex's name?

[Sniper]

Fucken troll

Thanks Wolf, but someone like that who says shit like that doesnt know the half of it. Kinda like me sometimes

[T.W.R]

since we are getting silly...

if so this should win :yes: :blip:

[Shadows]

More Gun Porn, but this time from a Bike Manufacturer.



It's Italian, so you need an ankle length leather coat, slicked back hair or a shaved dome and $500 shoes to be allowed to carry this delightfully styled weapon.


For some reason the 3.5in Ultra Magnum round appeals to me.


http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/benellinovajb.htm




Looks nice but personally I've got this thing for pump actions. :tugger:

[doc]

FYI, doc, SARGE and Sniper are actually so named because of their former professions

hey this is the internet you can be anyone you want and expert in a subject just by doing a Google search without even going outside.Then sometimes some people have difficulty sorting their Bi-polar characters from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds"

[wysper]

Lias, Momentum, Road-Rash, get on your bikes, someone swing by wysper's place, we gotta head South - we're too fucking close to Pukekohe and all hell's gonna break loose up there.




sweet.. as long as you don't mind someone who would bring a knife to a gun fight!

I am definately a fan of the blade. :stoogie:

[Swoop]

#2 is from the A-10.

[wysper]

Hey Swoop,

Are those sort of things in the first photo in private collections?

[Colapop]

FYI, doc, SARGE and Sniper are actually so named because of their former professions

hey this is the internet you can be anyone you want and expert in a subject just by doing a Google search without even going outside.Then sometimes some people have difficulty sorting their Bi-polar characters from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds"
Difference is that these guys do actually know their stuff. But they will be so disappointed that you disagree with them. You may be (ok will be) surprised to know that there are quite a few servicemen and women, both ex and serving on here who are bloody good people - far better than most of the scum out there.

[Swoop]

Hey Swoop,

Are those sort of things in the first photo in private collections?
Yes, in the USA they are allowed to have them and even shoot them at certain times!!!
There are some fantastic full-noise shoots in a couple of the states. They clear the downrange area with a helicopter (a few miles to check) to ensure that nobody has strayed into the area, and then let rip at the targets. They even have radio controlled aircraft drones to fire at!

Ahh, bliss!
Takes me back to firing .50 BMG on full noise!! Great times.

[Colapop]

They're allowed to have automatics in private collections too? I know that there are some guys (ok alot) with some serious sniper rifles, almost anti tank weapons I think I saw...?

[The_Dover]

FYI, doc, SARGE and Sniper are actually so named because of their former professions, and did you consider there might be a reason for the "s"es on either side of the "A" in Alex's name?

arse, they are all blowhards cos every ex special forces serviceman I have met before doesn't bleat about it and feel the need to be the man in the eyes of the assembled congregation of the internet.

Think about it for fucks sake.

[Darkman]

These are quite nice. Small, but affective. Sure most of the Saffers knows this one. Protecta A.K.A the bulldog. Great for hunting guineafowl and stopping burglars.

[thehollowmen]

Think a dirty big compound bow would be just as intimidating, or maybe a cross bow!

You know I shoot both of these right? And I've represented NZ a few times....

[Swoop]

They're allowed to have automatics in private collections too? I know that there are some guys (ok alot) with some serious sniper rifles, almost anti tank weapons I think I saw...?
Yes. Collectors here can have them, just not allowed to fire them though.
When the Ozzies went mental over their firearms laws and banned damn near everything, the shooters took to real accuracy ("sniper") rifles in a big way!

[Skyryder]

I dont really like the look of that, i reckon a shotgun needs to have a 'fuckoff' factor, that looks to soft ..

So you're gona be the hero with that shoved in ya face. There's no such thing as a 'soft' shotgun....................

Skyryder

[Gunner]

This gun was one of my favorites. I should of never of sold it, but trying to find parts for it in NZ was too hard, and people always looked funny at me when I took it to the range:gob:
I replaced it with the gun in the last pic, its alot more controlable when you want to empty a mag very fast.

[Colapop]

The seond one - what length is it? It looks almost jungle carbine type short.

There's a few SLR's left around the place I think - they're a bit of a collectors item nowdays though. Quite easy to turn into an auto too.

[Gunner]

The second one is a ruger 9mm carbine and its about 900mm long I think.

The first one isnt a SLR, Its a SIG AMT, it is a civilianised swiss assault rifle. Very few left in the country. They fetch very high prices in the US if they are in mint condition.

[sAsLEX]

You know I shoot both of these right? And I've represented NZ a few times....

no shit sherlock

[sAsLEX]

FYI, doc, SARGE and Sniper are actually so named because of their former professions

hey this is the internet you can be anyone you want and expert in a subject just by doing a Google search without even going outside.Then sometimes some people have difficulty sorting their Bi-polar characters from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds"

Ok to test your idea, go up to sarge and say this

"America is a shit of a country and the Recons are a bunch of yeller bellied fairies"



oh and I aint, nor ever to likely be special air service, but I aint some clueless civilian either puke boy!

[Wolf]

oh and I aint, nor ever to likely be special air service
OK, misunderstanding on my part

[MattRSK]

Irishman's gun cabinet contents.
http://images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/327/165074.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Various_types_of_potatoes_for_sale.jpg/250px-Various_types_of_potatoes_for_sale.jpg

[Sniper]

oh and I aint, nor ever to likely be special air service, but I aint some clueless civilian either puke boy!

How about Special Boat Service :whistle:

[Sniper]

Difference is that these guys do actually know their stuff. But they will be so disappointed that you disagree with them.

Im really upset doc doesn't believe me :cry:


FYI, doc, SARGE and Sniper are actually so named because of their former professions

hey this is the internet you can be anyone you want and expert in a subject just by doing a Google search without even going outside.Then sometimes some people have difficulty sorting their Bi-polar characters from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds"
Fair enough. But think before saying something like you did before. (Im not the wisest in saying that as I do it all too often)
BTW, I know exatcly when medics don't like snipers and why we don't like medics :shifty:


This gun was one of my favorites. I should of never of sold it, but trying to find parts for it in NZ was too hard, and people always looked funny at me when I took it to the range
Im damn sure I have seen that rifle before, or one like it. How long ago did you sell it gunner?

[Wolf]

hey this is the internet you can be anyone you want and expert in a subject just by doing a Google search without even going outside.Then sometimes some people have difficulty sorting their Bi-polar characters from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds"
Hey this is the internet, you can be an instant expert on everyone else just by reading a handful of their posts. Then sometimes people have difficulty sorting their wild-arsed assumptions about other people from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds".

Hey doc, a lot of people here make wild claims as to what they do - there's at least 4 on here who claim they're cops. Perhaps you should challenge their outrageous claims too, put them to the test - after all, it's unthinkable we might have real military people and police on a motorbike forum, everyone knows the internet is entirely populated by 14-year-old wannabes googling all their "knowledge". In fact, we probably don't really have motorbikes either...

Given that people are most inclined to accuse others of what we're doing themselves, I've really got to question your user name, "doc".

[thehollowmen]

no shit sherlock
Now you've got me worried :-P

how did you know that?

[DEATH_INC.]

This thing is owned by a mate of a mate in jaffaland.....

[DEATH_INC.]

Another one brought a .50 cal handgun into work, what a monster, he said it is the only handgun that'll stop a bear......sorry don't have any piccy's of that one...

[Sniper]

AR 15 dripping with Extra's. Those are nice rifles Death.

The .50 didnt happen to be an IME Desert eagle by chance?

[DEATH_INC.]

Not sure, it was full stainless and looked very handmade.

[Sniper]

Nope, definetly not an IME then

Brave man to be using a .50 handgun that looks homemade :eek5:

[DEATH_INC.]

No, not homemade, handmade (or maybe handcrafted may be a better term) very one-off milled finish from memory, but definately a proper production gun.
May be the eagle still, it was a while back.....
I don't think it was this, it didn't have the black handles and I think the stock(?) was the same width as the barrel...and I'm sure it was longer.

[Indoo]

arse, they are all blowhards cos every ex special forces serviceman I have met before doesn't bleat about it and feel the need to be the man in the eyes of the assembled congregation of the internet.


Very true that, most won't even let on that they were in the SAS etc let alone brag or glorify it.

[Karma]

everyone knows the internet is entirely populated by 14-year-old wannabes googling all their "knowledge". In fact, we probably don't really have motorbikes either...

Well the gigs up... better get home, it's nearly nap-time :zzzz:

[Sniper]

Very true that, most won't even let on that they were in the SAS etc let alone brag or glorify it.

You know whats funny. No one has said anything about being SAS or SBS or and special forces so I would like to see where you get that from.

Besides, Dover is just stirring shit again.... :nya:


No, not homemade, handmade (or maybe handcrafted may be a better term) very one-off milled finish from memory, but definately a proper production gun.
Sorry, I just re-read what you wrote.

[Joni]

Very true that, most won't even let on that they were in the SAS etc let alone brag or glorify it.
Yup... and thats a fact...

The thing thats amuses me in threads like this is when people start to believe their own fictitious talk about themselves - dont know if its funny or pathetic.

Note how I quoted Indoo and not Dover (can never let people know I agree with him :confused: )

:yawn: <== shit this smilie is a goodie

[Wolf]

Another one brought a .50 cal handgun into work, what a monster, he said it is the only handgun that'll stop a bear......sorry don't have any piccy's of that one...
A .50cal is not guaranteed to stop a bear - no handgun is. And with proper placement (or blind luck) you could stop a bear with a lesser calibre (not as likely - you try "proper placement" when you've got a huge carnivore bearing down on you).

As impressive as the .50 is, I recall the .454 "Casull" is more powerful - originally a "wildcat" round (cut down and renecked rifle cartridge designed to be fired in custom made weapons) that went into commercial production. There are a lot of wildcat pistols out there firing rifle rounds or cut down rifle rounds. They're devastating but not guaranteed to stop anything.

Personally I'd go for a 9mm because you can buy a lot more 9mm ammo for your buck than any other calibre which means I can afford to practise a lot more than someone using a less common, more expensive cartridge. For the price of a magazineful of .50cal for the Desert Eagle I could buy a shitload of ex-military 9mm ammo and practise to my hearts content.

I wouldn't expect a 9mm to stop a deer, let alone a bear, but once I had built up my accuracy and speed practising with 9mm it wouldn't take a as much practise to get up to speed with a heavier calibre.

Can't afford any of that or the club fees etc, so I use .177cal... (not that I expect Dopey, errr, I mean Doc, to believe I own an air pistol, he probably thinks I only have a water pistol. Good for him, he's welcome to his own delusions)

[Karma]

A .50cal is not guaranteed to stop a bear - no handgun is. And with proper placement (or blind luck) you could stop a bear with a lesser calibre (not as likely - you try "proper placement" when you've got a huge carnivore bearing down on you).

Street fighting rules come into play surely... aim low and hit hard :gob:

[Gunner]

About a year ago now, I have only ever seen one other for sale in NZ Guns & Hunting mag. The guy who has it now does MSSA shooting comps with it I think.
He's even more of a gun nut that me! He has shit loads of AR-15's of all ages and styles. Lucky bugger!!




Im damn sure I have seen that rifle before, or one like it. How long ago did you sell it gunner?

[Sniper]

About a year ago now, I have only ever seen one other for sale in NZ Guns & Hunting mag. The guy who has it now does MSSA shooting comps with it I think.
He's even more of a gun nut that me! He has shit loads of AR-15's of all ages and styles. Lucky bugger!!

I met someone on a range in Palmerston North a couple of years ago with a rifle like that. Damn good shot too. You?

[Gunner]

I met someone on a range in Palmerston North a couple of years ago with a rifle like that. Damn good shot too. You?


It was pretty accurate for the type of gun it was, no where near as good as my Ruger M77 MII .223 but for a .308 semi-auto that was proberly 15years old or more it did the trick.
They were first brought in the country in the 80's(i think?), and used as chopper guns to shoot deer. Thats why mine had been stripped of its carry handle, open sights, flash suppressor, muzzle break and winter trigger.

link to info on the gun
http://www.biggerhammer.net/sigamt/

[sAsLEX]

how did you know that?

I am standing behind you :gob:


You are from NZ it aint that big a place............ Mr Black:yes:

[Virago]

hey this is the internet you can be anyone you want.......
Yep, you're right there. You can safely sit at home and throw insults and abuse at people you don't know anything about.:tugger:

Appropriate bling awarded..........

[Sniper]

It was pretty accurate for the type of gun it was, no where near as good as my Ruger M77 MII .223 but for a .308 semi-auto that was proberly 15years old or more it did the trick.

The guy was consistantly putting rounds into a 2in box at 750m. At the time I was managing 3 out of 5 rounds into a 3inch at 750m. Hell of a shot and a nice rifle so if it was you, I'de like to buy you a beer sometime, the guy gave me some good tips that day.

[Kickaha]

but I aint some clueless civilian either puke boy!

Noy all civillians are clueless sailor boy, some of them can spot bullshit a mile away :bleh:

[Gunner]

The guy was consistantly putting rounds into a 2in box at 750m. At the time I was managing 3 out of 5 rounds into a 3inch at 750m. Hell of a shot and a nice rifle so if it was you, I'de like to buy you a beer sometime, the guy gave me some good tips that day.

That wasnt me, I wish I could shoot like that tho.

[sAsLEX]

some of them can spot bullshit a mile away :bleh:

Most cant or else how else do explain Labour and the green party getting as many votes as they did.

[SARGE]

arse, they are all blowhards cos every ex special forces serviceman I have met before doesn't bleat about it and feel the need to be the man in the eyes of the assembled congregation of the internet.

Think about it for fucks sake.


care t back that up Mouth?

[Dangerous Dane]

"Fight! Fight! Fight"...

Kind of unrelated but how come switchblades/butterfly knives are illegal?
I've owned one since I was 14 and never come to grief with it.

[Sniper]

"Fight! Fight! Fight"...

Kind of unrelated but how come switchblades/butterfly knives are illegal?
I've owned one since I was 14 and never come to grief with it.

Same reason you have your location listed as "The Pentagon" and why I hear voices.

[The_Dover]

care t back that up Mouth?

Care to back up all your claims?

Mr Hardass, he of the mental health days.

Fact is if you did half the shit you claimed to have done you would not be in NZ. Immigration would make sure of that.

As for your military history, fuck knows, but I come from a military family and know a lot of ex servicemen and none of them feel the need to bleat about what they have done or portray themselves as an urban warrior.

Maybe it's different for americans and saffers, we all know they like to run their mouths, but hows about scanning your discharge papers and service record to back all your claims up?

I don't claim to be anything more than a peat nigger with a degree in inebriation and a bad attitude. Those facts speak for themself.

[boomer]

...As for your military history, fuck knows, but I come from a military family and know a lot of ex servicemen and none of them feel the need to bleat about what they have done or portray themselves as an urban warrior.

Maybe it's different for americans and saffers, we all know they like to run their mouths, but hows about scanning your discharge papers and service record to back all your claims up?

i was a sapper.. you don't hear me shouting off :innocent: just blowing shit up!!! .. oh my bad.. you sad saffers'.. :blip:

[The_Dover]

Nah, boomer.

I usually just here you playing catch up as I roll another ciggie.

Private Boomer. ha ha ha, dad's army anyone?

[kro]

I have the swingarm bolt off an 82 DR250, and an egg beater with only one whisk head in it, but it could really do some damage if you chucked a finger or two into the blade, when its on speed setting 3.

Failing that, I would just use the TV remote to defend myself, flick the channel to Holmes, or Home and Away, and people tend to want to leave in a hurry.

[Wolf]

Failing that, I would just use the TV remote to defend myself, flick the channel to Holmes, or Home and Away, and people tend to want to leave in a hurry.
I ever hear you've done that, I'll have Amnesty International on you so fast your head will spin. There are Rules in War, kro, forbidding "Cruel and Unusual Punishment"... :nono:

Be a good boy and look up homemade napalm on the 'net, much more humane.

[SARGE]

You wankers are a bunch of armchair experts, who I think spend too much time surfing dreaming and then start to believe that you could do that too. Sniping is one of the most boring of skills and the most uncomfortable, the skills of a sniper don"t appear until after you have fired the shot. A sniper use to be one of the most despised soldiers in the battalion and selection is based on a pschological profile of a low life can't ...tossers like you think its fashionable because you experience it from playstation and DVD, go get some experience then we will see if you spend all your time dreaming, some of you may feel more than recoil when you pop the shot.



oh look.. another douchebag for my ignore list..

Make that 2..



Hey this is the internet, you can be an instant expert on everyone else just by reading a handful of their posts. Then sometimes people have difficulty sorting their wild-arsed assumptions about other people from fact and fiction. "Legends in their own minds".

Hey doc, a lot of people here make wild claims as to what they do - there's at least 4 on here who claim they're cops. Perhaps you should challenge their outrageous claims too, put them to the test - after all, it's unthinkable we might have real military people and police on a motorbike forum, everyone knows the internet is entirely populated by 14-year-old wannabes googling all their "knowledge". In fact, we probably don't really have motorbikes either...

Given that people are most inclined to accuse others of what we're doing themselves, I've really got to question your user name, "doc".



wouldnt worry about it Wolf.. dont feed the trolls.. just because he dont know anyone whos served, it means that no-one has..right?

being from a US Military family, its tradition that all males enlist after school.. not like NZ where you go on the big OE and get pissed in London for a year

i think a Military ride is in order one day gentlemen.. what do ya say?

[avgas]

What good is a gun if you break someones fingers :zzzz:

[sAsLEX]

i think a Military ride is in order one day gentlemen.. what do ya say?

But none of us have/are serving !

[Sniper]

i think a Military ride is in order one day gentlemen.. what do ya say?

Bring in conscription. It will knock down a bit of the PC whiney arsebuckets population too.


What good is a gun if you break someones fingers
It then becomes a club, or if they know what they are doing, they will more than likely use elbows and legs.

[Dangerous Dane]

Same reason you have your location listed as "The Pentagon" and why I hear voices.

Shits and giggles?