View Full Version : Speed Limiter on Suzuki GS1200ss
Lil_Byte
29th August 2006, 11:53
Is there anyway of removing this - the local dealer has been unable to do anything
Thanks
Crazy Steve
29th August 2006, 11:58
Is there anyway of removing this - the local dealer has been unable to do anything
Thanks
And dont bother as they dont really go any faster...
Sori about that...
Crazy Steve..
thehollowmen
29th August 2006, 12:00
Lots of people seem to have it done, but the speedo won't go over 180km/h. You'll be doing a lot faster, but it will only read 180.
I'm really surprised, they're usually pretty good in otago for doing that.
Edit: PM Jimmie, he's had it done.
Lil_Byte
29th August 2006, 12:12
Thanks for your help
Jimmy B
29th August 2006, 13:27
Hey Lil Byte,
This is one of the Bikes that I am looking at after a 5 year break. I am interested in your thoughts:
Talk to me about the GRUNT mate or lack of it, handling in tight corners, suspension in the bumpage...anything really
Cheers
Jantar
29th August 2006, 13:48
I recently traded in my GS1200SS after I had put over 22000 km on it. In that time I never found out how to derestrict it. My local dealer didn't know how to do it, and I wasn't game to try it myself without an accurate wiring diagram. However there were only a couple of times that the extra speed would have come in handy. Otherwise the 180 kmh was sufficient. I did two complete tours of New Zealand and 4 times around the South Island on mine.
Jimmy B, You wont ever complain about lack of grunt. In standard form its never going to be a track bike, but as a sports/tourer its right up there with the rest. It will pull away smoothly from quite low revs, which means that when you want to overtake you just open the throttle and let the bike do the rest. Its handling is good. Remember this bike is a retro copy of the 1986 GP bike (hence the twin rear shocks), and its handling is biassed toward open sweeping bends. In really tight corners you do have to wash off your speed early or you may end up taking two bites at the bend.
To really get my impressions read my account of the last Southern Cross http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=12630 . My account is in post number 5, but Blackbird's write up will also give an idea of how the GS1200SS performed.
Jimmy B
29th August 2006, 14:20
Thanks Jantar - Really great read and looks like a huge commitment to complete a long distance ride like that, well done. Appreciate your comments. Out of interest, if I may be a bit cheeky, you mentioned that you have recently traded the GS, was this a bike related reason?
Lil_Byte
29th August 2006, 14:23
I have found it to be a great bike. The finishing is a bit cheap but I have had no problems with it so far.
It has tons of torque and other than the fact that is tops at at 180 (it still feels like there is tons left to go) it is a great ride.
Not as sporty as my old GSX1100R but I needed a cheaper bike as I was buying a house
Jimmy B
29th August 2006, 14:30
Nice one Lil Byte, I am a big fan of grunt as opposed to top end (still nice to have both I guess) and I understand the GS has buckets of it. Will be interested to hear how you get on with your plans to un leash the beastie.
Luck
JB
Jantar
29th August 2006, 14:55
Thanks Jantar - Really great read and looks like a huge commitment to complete a long distance ride like that, well done. Appreciate your comments. Out of interest, if I may be a bit cheeky, you mentioned that you have recently traded the GS, was this a bike related reason?
Well yes, it was bike related, but not GS1200 related. You may note that in the Southern Cross ride I commented on how well the Suzuki VStroms performed. After the SC I had a try on a VStrom and was really impressed. I decided back then that I would order a DL1000 VStrom for delivery this winter so that it would be all sorted and prepared for the 2007 Southern Cross. So I now have the VStrom and we'll see how the next Southern Cross ride goes.
Silage
29th August 2006, 16:54
Hey Lil_Byte, that's one shiny bike on your profile page. Are they still available new? cos I thought Suzuki had sold the last ones they had last year.
I PM'd a reply to your PM re speed limiter removal. I'm surprised the local dealer doesn't know how. Maybe they could contact Sportzone Chch or some other dealer as all I have spoken to seemed to know the routine - not that one would ever want to go that fast of course.
I concur with Jantar's comments. Having come from a 400 to the GS1200, I have found it a lot heavier in corners and the comment about washing the speed off before is bang on. To me it has heaps of torque although I now generally drop a couple of cogs to overtake. Where there is a bit of space, it overtakes plenty quick in 5th (ie top).
In bang for the buck it has got to be near the top.
JimO
29th August 2006, 17:32
i find that people either love/hate the gs i saw one in dunedin the other day without the fairing in the old streetfighter style.and would possibly concider buying one in the future
Suzi Q
29th August 2006, 19:44
Thunder had one of these when they first came out and was most upset when it cut out at 180kms!!! We managed to get it sorted. best thing for you to do is to cotnact Sportszone Suzuki in CHCH as they got it done for him. As has been previously said the speedo will not show over 180kms and does go up to at least 220kms and maybe faster.:mellow:
Is there anyway of removing this - the local dealer has been unable to do anything
Thanks
Turtle
29th August 2006, 21:14
Is there anyway of removing this - the local dealer has been unable to do anything
Thanks
Hi there...no worries on the speed restrictor we have done several of these at work its just a matter of wiring in a diode.We have some in stock (Phils Motorcycle Centre Morrinsville)I have an 03 gs in stock at the moment and have just derestricted it and it does make all the difference.I will get some imfo on this together and get back to you.
craigs288
30th August 2006, 10:30
I've only had mine since March, and I've only had a few bike before this one, but I've ridden plenty and I LOVE my GS.
Like a few others have said, you definately need be at an appropriate speed for the corner. Otherwise you find yourself leaning way past the point you are comfortable with, and I've had a couple of moments where I've tried to turn in harder and the front has understeered and tried to drop in, and standing it up a little to stay upright makes the whole bike drift across the road.
It is a very stable bike that seems to absorb the crap conditions of the road and is rideable in every gear from 2000rpm, even 5th which is 60kmh.
I don't claim to be an amazing rider but the bike is very forgiving of rider input that isn't quite spot-on.
I bought it in Rangiora and rode it for 11hours to Ackland. Wasnt too uncomfortable.
The speedo only goes to 180kmh but the bike pulls hard to the 9500rpm limiter in 4th(26kmh/1000rpm). My nuts aren't big enough to try it in 5th. And I'm not sure it has the top end to do it in 5th either (285kmh?). Had it dynoed at Henderson Motorcycles and the guy reckoned 92BHP at the wheel around 8000rpm. Goes well from 5-8500rpm and gives me between 15 and 20km per litre.
Jimmy B
30th August 2006, 11:42
Thanks for That Craigs288. Im a bit more layed back these days so sounds like a good option for me, almost everyone who has had a GS says good things about them as well. I guess an 11 hour ride was a great introduction and seems to me, could be wrong, but Bikes generally seemed more competativley priced down the line. A local shop has a 04 minter low K example (<3000Ks) for a snip less than 9K, call me a monkeys uncle but wasnt that only a grand off the new price?
Jantar
30th August 2006, 11:58
They sold in NZ for a variety of prices when new. I believe that the first ones were arond $13000, but then the NZ dollar strengthened and the price dropped to $11000. At the end of the run they were specialled at $9999 in standard form, or $10,999 with some extras such as aftermarket cans.
inlinefour
30th August 2006, 12:01
And dont bother as they dont really go any faster...
Sori about that...
Crazy Steve..
and they say that a Honda is slow... :gob:
Silage
30th August 2006, 21:02
And dont bother as they dont really go any faster...
Sori about that...
Crazy Steve..
They don't go faster than the speedo speed (180kph) in
First - 100kph+-
Second - 146kph
but third does - 200
forth ??
fifth ??
Was told they are supposed to top out at 240 cos they will not pull the rev limiter in top so that would be in 4th. But wot would I know.
Katman
31st August 2006, 12:10
Check out this site http://www.suzukicycles.org/GS-series/GS1200SS.shtml - they look soooo much hornier in red/black.
Edbear
31st August 2006, 12:40
They don't go faster than the speedo speed (180kph) in
First - 100kph+-
Second - 146kph
but third does - 200
forth ??
fifth ??
Was told they are supposed to top out at 240 cos they will not pull the rev limiter in top so that would be in 4th. But wot would I know.
Uhuh...:shutup:
craigs288
31st August 2006, 16:52
I bought mine off the first New Zealand (in chch) owner at 1100kms on the clock for $7500. He reckoned it aggravated his tennis elbow and was a bit noisy. I think he was replacing it with a VN2000.
There were also some other big bikes ( cb1300, gsx1400 ) on trade me in the same area for about 2k less than the Auckland prices for the same thing.
Henderson motorcycles have got one exactly like mine with 10k on the clock and want $9995 for it. I've only just got 5k on the clock so I'm still grinning.
Only difference is the bandit type pipe and muffler after the collector. I reckon the megaphone looks cool, it's just on a wanky angle. Nothing a gas set and a welder can't fix. Insurance is a bitch tho.
SPman
31st August 2006, 18:17
GSXR1100 cams carbs etc does the trick if its to sluggish. A mate had one and did that...132 rwhp - still to slow so he bought a ZX12R...
Jimmy B
1st September 2006, 08:50
Yeah Mate that sounds like a good price and well done. I dont mind the factory can either tho I know opinion is divided - Happy days JB
Lil_Byte
1st September 2006, 09:53
Looks like I was lucky
I picked mine up for $6,500 with only 6K on the clock.
It is mint ands other than the top end which will be sorted it is not too sluggish.
Not as fast as my old GSXR1100 but still quick enough:scooter:
And thanks for the advice - looks like when they tried to remove the speed limiter they only snipped the wire and didin't put in a resistor:scooter:
Jimmy B
1st September 2006, 11:03
Cheers Lil Byte, that seems to be a very good price. A couple on trademe for around that and a few sheckles more, higher Ks but.
Lil_Byte
4th September 2006, 15:24
Found out that it already had the speed restriction removed it looks like I was fooled by the fact that the speedo does not go over 180:scooter:
JimO
4th September 2006, 17:56
Found out that it already had the speed restriction removed it looks like I was fooled by the fact that the speedo does not go over 180:scooter:
it wont matter how fast the speedo says if your goin flat out and the wallopers get you you are walking anyway..........for a long time
Jantar
4th September 2006, 18:19
Found out that it already had the speed restriction removed it looks like I was fooled by the fact that the speedo does not go over 180:scooter:
So what revs have you seen in top gear (on a closed road of course)? :innocent:
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