Wanganui 2006

[svs]

Got the entry form and supplementary regs from the Wanganui Club today. Though a few people might be interested, so I've posted them on the Vic Club site (http://www.vicclub.co.nz/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=272).

[k14]

If only I could race, would love to again, but alas no, someone has to keep the lights going. Next year maybe.

[Two Smoker]

Ill be there on a 600 this year..... oooohhh im going to love the esses with the huge camber change... Cheers for that Phil...

[k14]

Just reading the regs:
Super Motard machines shall elect to ride in one of the following Classes, F3, BEARS, (If Eligible) or Super Motard. Final eligibility decisions rests with the organisers, whose decision shall be final.

Very interesting. That will rip a few motards up. Wonder what class they will all decide to ride in. Might hit the F3 numbers a bit.

Also this bit:
Super Motard riders please Note:
There is a possibility that a dirt section may be added to this years Super Motard Races.

Maybe shortcut it through the cemetary? Jump a few grave stones maybe???

[svs]

heard the off road bit would be down in the train yard - where the pits used to be. a short cut through the cemetery would be cool, but somehow i don't think that would go down too well

[texmo]

With any luck I will be there on my 600.

[mikey]

Just reading the regs:
Super Motard machines shall elect to ride in one of the following Classes, F3, BEARS, (If Eligible) or Super Motard. Final eligibility decisions rests with the organisers, whose decision shall be final.

Very interesting. That will rip a few motards up. Wonder what class they will all decide to ride in. Might hit the F3 numbers a bit.

Also this bit:
Super Motard riders please Note:
There is a possibility that a dirt section may be added to this years Super Motard Races.

Maybe shortcut it through the cemetary? Jump a few grave stones maybe???


not that it will put me off casue im doing it if its snowing, but wont the enty back onto the road track be covered with dirt an stones an shit from the motards? bit like the drifters draggin dirt back on round the esses an hairpin at manfield?

[k14]

not that it will put me off casue im doing it if its snowing, but wont the enty back onto the road track be covered with dirt an stones an shit from the motards? bit like the drifters draggin dirt back on round the esses an hairpin at manfield?
Yeah that is sometimes a problem with motards. I'm sure they will make it as safe as possible cause I know you wouldn't be the only rider complaining if that was the case. Will have to see how they set it up. Normally they make the transition on a side road that isn't used as part of the main track to keep the dirt as far away as possible from the track.

[Ivan]

hmmmmmm,


could be keen on going this year sounds fun

[Motoracer]

Will be there just in F2.

Chur!

[texmo]

Will be there just in F2.

Chur!

Though you had given up racing?

[Motoracer]

Though you had given up racing?

WTF? I've been planning to do Wanganui for ages. I don't race competitively anymore but I would like to do Wanganui for a bit of fun cause I haven't done it before (I've only done Paeroa BOS). That's the only reason I'm racing next month. To get a feel for race pace again.

["D" FZ1]

Can't wait for Boxing Day. Street circuits "ROCK" !!!!!

[cowpoos]

WTF? I've been planning to do Wanganui for ages. I don't race competitively anymore but I would like to do Wanganui for a bit of fun cause I haven't done it before (I've only done Paeroa BOS). That's the only reason I'm racing next month. To get a feel for race pace again.
I think you have to do at least 3 race meetings this season before you can enter in wanga's?? I'm sure someone told me that....might pay to check it out...

[Joni]

I think you have to do at least 3 race meetings this season before you can enter in wanga's?? I'm sure someone told me that....might pay to check it out...I stand corrected... Im not sure if its this season, or in your race license period - would be good to know the answer too.:sunny:

[Motoracer]

I think you have to do at least 3 race meetings this season before you can enter in wanga's?? I'm sure someone told me that....might pay to check it out...

Cheers dude, will check it out.

[HDTboy]

I'd like to be there, but will have fun with my licence.

[k14]

Cheers dude, will check it out.
Yeah must have got 3 stamps on current year race licence to be able to race at a street I believe.

[madkeenandy]

Yeah must have got 3 stamps on current year race licence to be able to race at a street I believe.

with the graymouth street race you have to anyway, presume its the same with all street races....

[flipper69]

Ill be there on a 600 this year..... oooohhh im going to love the esses with the huge camber change... Cheers for that Phil...

What is happening to the esses?

[Shaun]

Yeah must have got 3 stamps on current year race licence to be able to race at a street I believe.


Must have done 3 sancioned race meetings before you can race at the nationals or on the streets.

There is no clause in the rule book stating this year or any year, just 3 race meetings to prove your competant

Faaaaark POOS, wot you going to do mate?

[slowpoke]

Must have done 3 sancioned race meetings before you can race at the nationals or on the streets.

There is no clause in the rule book stating this year or any year, just 3 race meetings to prove your competant

Faaaaark POOS, wot you going to do mate?


Nationals too? Even in Clubmans? FUCK!!!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK! I'm screwed..............

I was gonna go down and do the Teretonga and Levels rounds (Clubmans), even had my better half looking forward to a week of cruising down South for a week with a race meeting either end.

I'm gonna have a look at the regs and see if this applies to the noobie Clubmans class, unless someone else knows off the top of their head.

Fuck this "take it like a man" shit, I'm going off to cry like a baby.......

[Motoracer]

Hi
Yes, you are able to race at Wanganui but enter as a first time rider at Wanganui. This will require you to have a few laps of the circuit behind a rider experienced riding at Wanganui. Usually there a few riders who have to do this.

Looking forward to receiving your entry

Regards



This is from the Organiser.

Wooohoooo, I'm soooo happy!!! :banana: Otherwise I was seriously going to flag it for this year cause I've only got a budget to race 1ce or twice this year for any given race.

Can't wait!!

[loosebruce]

Awesome stuff Sudeep, Fkn @ this year is going to be a minter alright.

[dss3]

Hell yeah, bring it on!... umm anyone got some spare rooms in Wanganui? Say, umm around like boxing day???

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just reading the regs:
Super Motard machines shall elect to ride in one of the following Classes, F3, BEARS, (If Eligible) or Super Motard. Final eligibility decisions rests with the organisers, whose decision shall be final.

Very interesting. That will rip a few motards up. Wonder what class they will all decide to ride in. Might hit the F3 numbers a bit.

Also this bit:
Super Motard riders please Note:
There is a possibility that a dirt section may be added to this years Super Motard Races.

Maybe shortcut it through the cemetary? Jump a few grave stones maybe???

It's 100% fair enough! If you're racing motard, just because your bikes eligible for F3 and bears etc, leave them to it.

Otherwise every class looks like 1/2 fucking motard, and the way some guys ride their moto-x bikes it must really fuck a lot of riders of road race bikes off.

[k14]

It's 100% fair enough! If you're racing motard, just because your bikes eligible for F3 and bears etc, leave them to it.

Otherwise every class looks like 1/2 fucking motard, and the way some guys ride their moto-x bikes it must really fuck a lot of riders of road race bikes off.
Not complaining at all, will make it alot easier on someone like myself racing in F3. After nearly getting clotheslined by one last year I'd be very happy to have an F3 class with normal racing bikes. Sadly this year I won't be able to attend. Maybe next year.

[Deano]

I'll be there in Post Classic Jnr and F3.

Get my third meeting under my belt at Taupo next weekend. I think that rule is a bit unfair though - maybe it should be 6 races to qualify you for Wangas - if racing in two classes you are getting 2x the track time as someone only entering one class, yet still have to go to three meetings.

[svs]

the whole part about having to complete 3 meetings is because the street races are more dangerous than the track - there is no run-off etc.

in the UK a 'novice' rider must complete (that means cross the line, DNF's etc don't count!) 15 races at club level before being allowed any where near any sort of national level event. and you have to wear your bright orange bib the whole time. In the US and AUS you have to pass written and practical tests before you can get your license.

it's easy NZ. Don't knock it - but it'll change if there's too many numpty's on the track.

Deano - you might want to check the PostClassic regs. 'Normal' post classic is Pre-82

[Kickaha]

I'll be there in Post Classic Jnr and F3.

No such thing as "Post Classic Jnr" (Pre89) at this event

[Shaun]

[QUOTE=svs;777039]the whole part about having to complete 3 meetings is because the street races are more dangerous than the track - there is no run-off etc.


it's easy NZ. Don't knock it - but it'll change if there's too many numpty's on the track.


Hey Phil, how many dissapointed riders do you think there is going to be with there entries being declined

[svs]

dunno. but hope the accept mine :)

[Deano]

the whole part about having to complete 3 meetings is because the street races are more dangerous than the track - there is no run-off etc.



I can understand the safety issues - but if you're entering two classes at each round, you are getting twice the track time as someone only entering one class......yet it isn't considered that way ??




Deano - you might want to check the PostClassic regs. 'Normal' post classic is Pre-82

Looks like F3 only for me then.

[svs]

but if you're entering two classes at each round, you are getting twice the track time as someone only entering one class

and twice as likely to crash :shake:

seriously though, your logbook doesn't record each individual race that you complete - only the meetings that you attend. How else are they supposed to check it?

[Deano]

and twice as likely to crash :shake:

seriously though, your logbook doesn't record each individual race that you complete - only the meetings that you attend. How else are they supposed to check it?


Crashing ?

Couldn't the steward or whoever just write the classes entered into the logbook ? Seems simple enough really.

I don't really mind, but it's not really indicative of experience to say three meetings minimum, if you have entered two classes at each meeting.

[texmo]

Crashing ?

Couldn't the steward or whoever just write the classes entered into the logbook ? Seems simple enough really.

I don't really mind, but it's not really indicative of experience to say three meetings minimum, if you have entered two classes at each meeting.

Even so someone like say Mikey is never gonna be safe no matter how many meeting he has done and you are safe even if you had done no meetings. And its not like they have time to do it on a case by case basis. or do you think they should do it like they do in the UK? make you wear a high vis and sit a test?

[Deano]

Even so someone like say Mikey is never gonna be safe no matter how many meeting he has done and you are safe even if you had done no meetings. And its not like they have time to do it on a case by case basis. or do you think they should do it like they do in the UK? make you wear a high vis and sit a test?

I'm just suggesting that the present criteria is not representative - you have to have entered at three meetings before competing at Wangas, but there is no dispensation for those that have entered in two classes at each meeting, THUS gaining sufficient experience earlier than those that enter only one class per meeting.

[texmo]

I'm just suggesting that the present criteria is not representative - you have to have entered at three meetings before competing at Wangas, but there is no dispensation for those that have entered in two classes at each meeting, THUS gaining sufficient experience earlier than those that enter only one class per meeting.

So when there is a 22 lapper at manfeild that should count as two races rather than one?

[Deano]

So when there is a 22 lapper at manfeild that should count as two races rather than one?

Now you're just being pedantic...but no it wouldn't because that is what constitiuted that particular race meeting.

Enter two classes = equivalent to 2 meetings.

[svs]

I'm just suggesting that the present criteria is not representative - you have to have entered at three meetings before competing at Wangas, but there is no dispensation for those that have entered in two classes at each meeting, THUS gaining sufficient experience earlier than those that enter only one class per meeting.

But every meeting is different, race tracks are different lengths, races are different number of laps. Who is to say that entering 2 classes at 1 meeting gives you any more experience than 1 class at another? You might get more racing laps in your single class meeting. What do you want - a fixed number of racing kilometers completed?? What happens if I do a single 6 hour meeting? Odds are I'd have done more racing in that time than your 3 meetings with 2 classes.

It's got to be something that's simple and easy to administer and easy to check up on. The current system does that.

[Deano]

But every meeting is different, race tracks are different lengths, races are different number of laps. Who is to say that entering 2 classes at 1 meeting gives you any more experience than 1 class at another? You might get more racing laps in your single class meeting. What do you want - a fixed number of racing kilometers completed?? What happens if I do a single 6 hour meeting? Odds are I'd have done more racing in that time than your 3 meetings with 2 classes.

It's got to be something that's simple and easy to administer and easy to check up on. The current system does that.

It was just an observation, but yes I thought a set number of races would have sufficed. Still simple.

[svs]

It was just an observation, but yes I thought a set number of races would have sufficed. Still simple.

fair point. that's how it works in the UK. You need to complete 15 races as a novice. However the opportunity for cross entry is much less, although clubs often run a 'novice' all-in race to help you get through the period quicker.

It took me a whole season to get rid of my bib, that was with entering all rounds in KDMC series in scotland and travelling down to england to do a few events as well.

[Two Smoker]

I wont be racing at Wanganui this year... Need the money for racing at the nationals, and dont want to risk crashing with only 2 weeks to go before the nationals...

[svs]

I wont be racing at Wanganui this year... Need the money for racing at the nationals, and dont want to risk crashing with only 2 weeks to go before the nationals...

hadn't thought of that. bugger. will have to think about it then cos F3 is always the poor relation at the Street Circuits.