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Toast
17th September 2006, 19:13
Melandri 1st
Vermeulen 2nd
Rossi 3rd...

BUT

Roski is being accused of passing Stoner (who finished 6th) under a yellow flag...what will happen if that is found to be the case? Will Rossi be put back in to 7th or disqualified?

Matt Bleck
17th September 2006, 19:35
Marco Melandri is a legend, last corner of the last lap dirfting the bike while waving to the fan's....

k14
17th September 2006, 19:38
Melandri 1st
Vermeulen 2nd
Rossi 3rd...

BUT

Roski is being accused of passing Stoner (who finished 6th) under a yellow flag...what will happen if that is found to be the case? Will Rossi be put back in to 7th or disqualified?
I believe it is a 10 second penalty (iirc), that would drop him back to 6th.

I thought it was for him lapping pedrosa on the last lap under a yellow?

Anyways, what a massive race. That was definately the most entertaining race I've seen in bike racing ever. Awesome start with nakano opening out a decent lead (think 4.7 seconds before the rain) and then everyone coming into change bikes and head back out on the wets. Was more surprised that there was only 2 crashes. Thought there would have been some carnage. Good stuff for vermeulen getting up on the podium too. Hopefully there's better things coming for that man next year.

k14
17th September 2006, 19:40
Marco Melandri is a legend, last corner of the last lap dirfting the bike while waving to the fan's....
Yeah talk about it, that shot is going to be shown alot of times. Still buzzing after such an awesome race. Also the 250's were great too, think lorenzo won by 0.009 seconds.

Marknz
17th September 2006, 19:44
Yeah talk about it, that shot is going to be shown alot of times. Still buzzing after such an awesome race. Also the 250's were great too, think lorenzo won by 0.009 seconds.

could someone who has the necessary skills and software please create a video file of melandri acting up with one hand and save it somewhere on here for us??

Matt Bleck
17th September 2006, 20:51
Yeah talk about it, that shot is going to be shown alot of times. Still buzzing after such an awesome race. Also the 250's were great too, think lorenzo won by 0.009 seconds.

Shez, talk about leaving it till the last minute, De Angelis was sizing him up the whole time, so so close :shit:

saul
17th September 2006, 21:00
Errr guys where did Hayden finish

Matt Bleck
17th September 2006, 21:06
Errr guys where did Hayden finish

Fifth .

Ghost Lemur
17th September 2006, 21:47
Errr guys where did Hayden finish

Who cares where that whiney little bitch finished so long as he loses the championship who cares.

Interesting little note: After Leguna Rossi was 51 points down with six rounds to go. He's now 21 points down with three to go. So he's pulled back 30 points in three rounds with three to go. Oh yeah he's going to do it and there nothing Hayden can do.

Bring on Japan.

andy1
18th September 2006, 01:45
Stewards examine Rossi move at Phillip Island
PHILLIP ISLAND, Australia, Sept 17 (Reuters) - Stewards are looking into a complaint that world champion Valentino Rossi overtook a rival at the Australian MotoGP Grand Prix while the yellow flags were out.
World championship leader Nicky Hayden was reported as saying Rossi overtook Australian Casey Stoner on lap 18 while yellow flags were being waved following Carlos Checa's detour into the trackside gravel trap.
Rossi finished third in the race, a result that would see him close the gap on American Hayden to 21 points if the protest is rejected.



feel sorry for Nakano. what a start that boy made.. but he should be strong here in Japan..

All in all was a great race..

andy1
18th September 2006, 02:07
Updated Rossi keeps 3rd place!!:yes:

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=motorSportsNews&storyID=2006-09-17T085107Z_01_SP215302_RTRIDST_0_SPORT-MOTORCYCLING-AUSTRALIA-ROSSI-UPDATE-1.XML

sAsLEX
18th September 2006, 03:25
I thought it was for him lapping pedrosa on the last lap under a yellow?

Anyways, what a massive race.

Good to see from andys post nothing to come from the American pulling another excuse out of the bag, and Rossi once again ensures his jinx on Giby holds true !

emaN
18th September 2006, 12:00
Been trying to find a shot of Melandri coming outta that last corner sideways... found others, but not that one...

surely someone got him!? where's SlickD when ya need him?!

nudemetalz
18th September 2006, 12:34
Excellent that the Doctor keeps his 3rd place. That overtaking and taking Gibernau for 3rd was wicked,...but Melandri's smoking the rear tyre was simply awesome.
I borrowed my work's projector so I had a 150" TV to watch it on....can't complain about that !!

Pwalo
18th September 2006, 14:16
I've been telling my sons (who both seem to be favouring Hayden) that the Doctor's not done with yet.

Good to see Vermuelem on the podium, but the rain rules are going to get a bit of getting used to. Seemed to work ok, but timing your bike swap is crucial.

Smokin
18th September 2006, 16:03
And here's a link to those that missed it.

Click me (http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3525643/MotoGP_Phillip_Island_2k6.wmv)

gav
18th September 2006, 21:52
Spanish press have announced that Nicky Hayden has signed with Yamaha, what a mug !

k14
18th September 2006, 22:08
Spanish press have announced that Nicky Hayden has signed with Yamaha, what a mug !
You have to be kidding??? What so next year it will be rossi and hayden in the camel honda team?

Toast
18th September 2006, 22:12
You have to be kidding??? What so next year it will be rossi and hayden in the camel honda team?

That would be interesting.

Maybe Hayden knows that even if he wins the championship, people are gonna say that he had a better bike...so he wants to take on Vale on even terms...he possibly could do it, but would need even more luck than he's had this year.

erik
18th September 2006, 22:18
could someone who has the necessary skills and software please create a video file of melandri acting up with one hand and save it somewhere on here for us??

Here you go but they're not very good quality, my reception isn't the best... might need a new tv ariel.

the first one is from the end of the race, the 2nd one is a replay from a slightly different angle.

Ghost Lemur
18th September 2006, 22:24
Spanish press have announced that Nicky Hayden has signed with Yamaha, what a mug !

Bahaha that's great news.

Not only is he going to loose the championship this year, but he's never going to get close again. It's been proven time and again that only Rossi can be competitive on any (read: Yamaha) machine. Everyone else needs a Honda (Caparossi+Ducati being the exception).

It'll be interesting to see how it's going to work. Can't see Rossi being too interested in having Hayden as a teammate again, although considering it's Rossi he probably doesn't give a shit. So are they going to have two factory teams.

Postie
19th September 2006, 09:08
You have to be kidding??? What so next year it will be rossi and hayden in the camel honda team?

I herd that Yamaha will see the return of movistar telefonica next year. But that's not the point your making.
Anyway, Hayden was lucky that it rained, he would have been down shit stream with no paddle had it been a dry race with him in 14th place and Rossi and Pedrosa up the front. Danni had a shocker of a race, specially after it rained, all I can think of is that maybe he was being over cautious in the rain as he probably doesn't want to crash and risk damaging his knee further.
Rossi was on the charge at in the first few laps but had an average race after that. And it has been said about Melandri's finishing move's..... but daaaamn, that has the be the coolest way anyone has ever finished any race ever. That will feature in many motogp video collections.
I enjoyed the 250's and 125's aswell, I wonder if the 125 rider who tried to rejoin the race on the second corner and hit the other rider when he came back on, I wonder if there will be any action against him, as clearly he should have laid the bike down like the other fella did.

Cleve
19th September 2006, 13:57
Here you go but they're not very good quality, my reception isn't the best... might need a new tv ariel.

the first one is from the end of the race, the 2nd one is a replay from a slightly different angle.

Cheers. And I will also say GODDAMN that was something else. My respect for Melandri has just gone up some more...

motobob
19th September 2006, 16:44
Guys forget Rossi and Melandri the Ride of the day was Chris Vermulen. Everyone else had a fast bike.

rogson
19th September 2006, 16:52
The result was understandable given the difficult conditions.

Rossi rode a smart race. Knowing that his championship bid is over if he falls down he rode a conservative race but did what he had to do to keep his bid alive - i.e. beat Hayden.

Hayden also rode a smart race. Going into the race he would have known all he has to do to win the championship is follow immediately behind the better of Pedrosa or Rossi. At Phillip Island Pedrosa struggled and Hayden followed right behind Rossi - until the final corner, that is.

Melandri and Vermeulen aren't in the championship hunt, so took the risks and went for the best one-off result.

k14
19th September 2006, 17:07
Melandri and Vermeulen aren't in the championship hunt, so took the risks and went for the best one-off result.
I don't know if I'd go as far to say that Melandri isn't in the championship hunt. He's only 32 behind hayden and 9 behind rossi. All that is needed is for hayden to drop it at motegi and melandri to win and it will be back to a 3 way race for the last 2 races. Stranger things have happened....

motobob
19th September 2006, 17:14
Rossi was the one taking risks. He was out ridden on a track that he could have taken an unprecendented 6 consecutive wins at one circuit. The man thrives on challenges. He was on a mission and overtaking Gibbers on the last turn proves it. If I were Gibernau and having gone thru all the shit Rossi has dished out I would have bounced him into the kitty litter and taken away his chance of winning this years title.

rogson
19th September 2006, 17:21
I don't know if I'd go as far to say that Melandri isn't in the championship hunt.....

Yes, you are right - even more incentive for Melandri to go for the win last Sunday..............and next Sunday.

sAsLEX
19th September 2006, 17:36
Rossi was the one taking risks. He was out ridden on a track that he could have taken an unprecendented 6 consecutive wins at one circuit. The man thrives on challenges. He was on a mission and overtaking Gibbers on the last turn proves it. If I were Gibernau and having gone thru all the shit Rossi has dished out I would have bounced him into the kitty litter and taken away his chance of winning this years title.

bit hard when he takes you on the inside!

See what happened to ... who was it .... biagii when he forced rossi out into the litter, rossi held on and then flicked him the bird as he stuck it up the inside of him on the next corner

rogson
19th September 2006, 17:48
Gibernau came back to the Rossi/Hayden/Stoner group rather than the other way round. Gibernau was clearly struggling - his bike sounded like shit over the last half of the race (Capirossi's sounded even worse over most of the race).

gav
19th September 2006, 23:10
Gibernau's tire was totally shot with big chunks missing out of it, he did well to get the bike to the finish. Part of Pedros'a demise was tire choice by his team, they totally got it wrong and apologised to Dani after the race, the tire was described as "melted" by one observer!

Brian d marge
20th September 2006, 02:13
I didnt see any yellow flags , what was Hayden thinking,,

Ya have to feel sorry for gibbering mess , as he accelerated out of that last croner , his grip was shot , he ran wide , Rossi took the advantage..

What happened to shinsmytwin Mechano .. Awesome start ,,but after the bike swap .. just faded

Stephen

BarryG
20th September 2006, 05:24
Well, someone saw a yellow flag, just not the stewards, Rossi or Stoner :shit: hah!
Nicky said after (about Rossi) 'he beat me on the track' meaning that's where it counts, and good on him, I reckon. A lot of people portray Nicky as a whinger, or don't like him because he's American, or for who knows what reason, but he basically just gets on with it and doesn't make excuses, just tells it like it is, if there's something wrong with him or the bike, that's what you hear.
He will indeed have a hard time staying ahead of Rossi for the championship, especially as it sounds like Honda are dicking him around some with the bike mods he's being made to test and race with. It's almost like they don't want him to win it all, but that's Honda's internal politics, and apparently always been that way. That from people like Mat Oxley and Toby Moody, who seem to get past the usual journo claptrap and write what they think, and not what Honda, Yamaha, Marlboro, Dorna etc. spew out. I reckon they'll have a hard time justifying not giving him what he needs for the final races and stop screwing around, given their golden boy Pedrosa's performance in the rain. Nicky was bloody lucky to come out as well as he did, tho', Dani had disappeared those first five laps. Funny how their finishing positions were pretty well reversed after the rain/bike change. I wouldn't want to throw it away if I had a leg in Dani's shape, that's for sure, so you have to figure that for the reason.
Interesting days, eh? There's nothing like a MotoGP race to watch, and the great pity is once the season's finished, we have to wait until April to start again. I hope the change to 800's doesn't make a mess of it all.
Cheers
Barry

sAsLEX
20th September 2006, 11:07
doesn't make excuses, just tells it like it is


hmm contradicting yourself there.


That mean man Vale passed under a yellow :(

emaN
20th September 2006, 11:12
bit hard when he takes you on the inside!

See what happened to ... who was it .... biagii when he forced rossi out into the litter, rossi held on and then flicked him the bird as he stuck it up the inside of him on the next corner

hmmm...mebbe that's what i should'a done in response to Tboy's "move"...:shifty:

BarryG
21st September 2006, 04:01
[QUOTE=sAsLEX;759468]hmm contradicting yourself there.


No, I don't think so. Maybe I meant to say 'doesn't make excuses for himself', does that make it any clearer? In other words, if it's the bike or tyres or setup, he says so, if it's him, he says so, if he gets beaten fair and square, he says so, etc.
According to Toby, his plan, when he saw the yellow, was that Rossi would slow and let Stoner overtake and he (Nicky) would just tag along right behind and sneak in front of Rossi too!. The plan went awry when Rossi didn't slow for the yellow (which apparently neither he nor Stoner saw) so that was that, and he had nothing for Rossi when he was gapped. It didn't sound like he was pissed, just a bit puzzled that the flag was there and nothing really happened as a result.
Maybe you think I'm defending Nicky too much, but someone has to around here :lol: They're all racers, at the end of the day, and we all have our favourites and ambivalences. It's just we don't have Biaggi to kick around any more, that's the problem :lol: Altho' we will in WSB next year, I wonder how much he'll find wrong with the Suzuki. :weep:
Cheers
Barry

Racey Rider
21st September 2006, 07:48
I didnt see any yellow flags , what was Hayden thinking,,

I recorded the race, and have watched the pass in frame by frame mode.
It's seems to me that Rossi did pass under yellows.

The corner before the pass you see a blur of orange and yellow at the Marshall post. The orange is the Marshall's vest, the yellow must be the flag.
The corner after the pass, the Marshall is clearly waving a yellow.

In Rossi's defense, he was in a group of 5 bikes, close enough to spit on each other, so had other things on his mind. But he's a professional, perhaps he should have seen the flags.

Brian d marge
21st September 2006, 14:19
i downloaded it and hit the pause. probably why i missed it, also i havent seen ant news about it
wonder what the out come was/is

Stephen

Brian d marge
21st September 2006, 17:28
What has happened to any protest ?? I mean he DID say rossi passed on the flag ,
But I havent seen or heard anything in the news ???

Is Hayden just dropping the whole thing?


Stephen

Matt Bleck
21st September 2006, 19:53
What has happened to any protest ?? I mean he DID say rossi passed on the flag ,
But I havent seen or heard anything in the news ???

Is Hayden just dropping the whole thing?


Stephen

http://www.eurosport.com/motorcycling/australian-gp/2006/sport_sto967970.shtml

Brian d marge
22nd September 2006, 01:09
Ta for that

Why is it ..i feel a tui add coming on

Either Rossi chanced his arm ( balls for trying it on )

or he didnt see and is lucky

OR

David Ike is right and its all a new world order plot .......

Hayden must feel like S^&*(() T

Stephen

Deano
22nd September 2006, 01:23
He was on a mission and overtaking Gibbers on the last turn proves it.

Rossi undertook him when Sete had a little slide and lost the drive onto the main straight. It was safe as.


Gibernau was clearly struggling - his bike sounded like shit over the last half of the race (Capirossi's sounded even worse over most of the race).

Sure that wasn't the traction control ?


Part of Pedros'a demise was tire choice by his team, they totally got it wrong and apologised to Dani after the race, the tire was described as "melted" by one observer!

Didn't he come out of the pit on the 'wet' bike well down on is previous position also ? It can't have been easy swapping bikes with a stuffed knee and a box step up.

rogson
22nd September 2006, 07:13
Sure that wasn't the traction control ?

Yeah. I wondered about that myself. The Ducatis sounded like the ignition was cutting-out. But how was it that the Hondas, Yamahas, Suzukis, etc all sounded OK. They must have had their traction control dialed-up too.

Roberts' bike was "missing", similar to the Ducatis. He finished well-down, and he is a good wet rider (remember Donington a couple of years ago).

emaN
22nd September 2006, 12:30
«Fin dal giro di ricognizione c'era un commissario che sventolava la bandiera gialla senza motivo ed io l'ho fatto presente ad Uncini, responsabile della sicurezza. In quelle condizioni non era facile vedere tutto. Comunque ora studieremo il filmato della corsa».
Poi la Honda ha comunque deciso di non ricorrere ai giudici.

Rossi's saying that right from the warm-up lap there was a marshall waving a yellow flag for no reason. He told the person responsible for safety, Uncini, and goes on to say they were difficult conditions to see in.
Honda decided not to resort to race officials after all.

http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Extra/2006/Motomondiale/articoli/Australia/index.shtml