What caused your bin?

[Ozzie]

Hi,

A morbid thread perhaps, but am very curious.

Anyone that has dropped their bike in the last 12 months, I am curious as to how. I need honesty, and I mean any accident on the road, no matter how minor.

I need you to select 1 option in each of the two groups, and if speed was a contributor (ie: too fast for the obvious conditions, not just higher than the posted limit). The speed for the conditions is tricky, if you were going quick around a corner, but well under the limit, and hit loose metal that was not sign posted, I would say you were not going too fast for the conditions.

Seriosness: minor (no Hospital) / injury (in Hospital) / Very Serious (major hospital time / recovery time)

Major Cause: Rider Error / Uneven Surface / Loose Surface / other road problem / other road user / other

Speed: Speed was a contributor

The reason is, have heard a lot about accidents lately, and sooooo many due to shit roads, I want to see if it is me, or if it is actually true. Police stats say it is speed, but we all know, in most bins, we get up and ride away (or get carted away) and don't need to report it. So what are the real stats?

Want to try and get some action on cleaning up our roads for summer, too many people falling off, and nothing done about it.

PS. debating whether this should be in here, as it is road bike specific, or law, given it is slightly bent that way, so mod's please feel free if you think it should be moved.

[The Pastor]

My once an only "incident" (its not an accident if you don't fall off) was just minor cosmetic damage due to me being a dickhead.

[Hitcher]

The gory details of my abrasive relationship with an ST1300 are posted elsewhere...

[onearmedbandit]

My only bin in the last 9yrs was at the track so doesn't count I suppose. But anyway it was rider error - too much throttle out of the turn resulted in a glorious highside. Minor injury, not too much damage to the bike.

[DingDong]

Usually rider error... once too much gas, but I was buggerd anyway (highside or low side) I picked the later

Most resent, cooked (old as) tyre... I knew it but still pushed too hard.

Fallen once because of aggresion... t/boned another racer on purpose to take him out of contention... :banana: he was quite good about it:Pokey::lol:

[Waylander]

First one, riding too fast for conditions. Seond one, that damned paint strip.

[placidfemme]

My accident was a mixture of things... there were a few contributing factors... but Rider Error was the main cause.

Minor solo accident, minor injurys... bike = write off

There was water running across the road, uneven surface (small potholes... ish), barely scrubbed in tyres and apparantly a loose fitted rear wheel.

All helping to cause the accident. Although now after reading Twist of Wrist II, I now see that the accident was avoidable had I not paniced and braked mid-corner after my rear spun out on me...

[Madmax]

went in to glengary rd pretty hot there was a around a foot of water
at that point went through crossed up came out the other side OK
( a bit wet but still have all my arms and legs ETC)

[Steam]

For me it was Rider Error; not enough experience in corners. I was a complete noobie, locked up the brakes and went down.
I am now entering my second month off work due to the broken hand, doh!

[onearmedbandit]

Cool, 2 months off work. Man I only got one day damn it.

[Mom]

I had a small altercation with a dog end of last year, probably would have been ok, was going really slowly, but could not get my foot down as I was on the edge of a curbed roadway and the space for me to put my foot down was actually a culvert!...:doh: ...more embarrassing than anything else, had to get help to pick the bike up as the wheels were higher than the bars

[McJim]

Native New Zealander didn't understand give way rule so I got to slide down the street using my knee as a brake. What fun.

This is why I never abuse Asian drivers coz in my experience I've never seen THEM do stupid stuff.

Worst of all are white people driving Falcons or Commodores - they are the worst fuggen drivers in the world bar none (and I've driven in Italy man!)

[Jeaves]

rider error :no:

[Prof - R]

:( Now this is going be something else if it has happened to someone i would very much like to know .... one sunday morning ealry hours this lady was pissed out of her head & from what she said could not even drive to start with .. drove her car into the garage & hit my bike which i must say was parked & locked didnt every think that my bike would be writtern off while i wasnt even riding ...:(

[sAsLEX]

Can of brake fluid resting on tank as only going not very far.......... got about 2 metres before it slipped into the gap between clip on and tank and when I went to turn I just lent and over it went

[riffer]

I haven't crashed in the last 12 months, but looking back at all my crashes they could all have been avoided so you could say rider error for every one.

1. target fixation while avoiding drunk driver coming the wrong way down a one-way street in the dark with no lights on - hit power pole.

2. High-sided going around Lower Hutt roundabout - accelerated too quickly

3. Looped bike crash starting it down a hill with throttle wide open (dumb)

4. Hit by boat trailer being towed by SUV while lanesplitting more than 30 km/hr faster than the traffic.

[ZorsT]

Dark visor at night :cool:

Man did i deserve what I got

[Bonez]

Parked the bike facing down the drive and it fell over.................:beer:

Apart from nearly being arse ended by cowboyz on the last few rides, trying to keep up to a GB400, nothing serious in the last 12 months.

[yob_ymmit]

I have had a few drops, and one real crash. None in the past 12months though, as I had to take time off biking due to some inadequate funding issues... They have all been spaced over my first 3 years (out of 5years to date)

1) Newby mistake - realised I was turning down a one way st the wrong way, so I slammed on the brakes while leant over at 30km/hr... Front wheel of course locked up, but I just stepped off the bike as it went down. No scratches on me, but $500+ damage to my previously good nick CBR250.. Fairing on left side and blade completely snapped and cracked. Scratches on left. Left footpeg snapped off. Man, those things have the stupidest fairing design when it comes to laying them down!

2) Stupid rider mistake - didnt take brake disc lock off before driving off and turning, wheel does a 1/2 rev then locks up, and again, I have to lay the bike down because its too heavy when you arent expecting it! It put some nice cracks through my new blade, just repaired from the first drop! This happened a few times to the poor CBR.

3) REALLY stupid rider mistake - combination of errors and mechanical faults. Firstly, battery flat. Secondly, fuel tank ran onto reserve as getting off motorway onto upward offramp. Bike rolled to a stop near the top of the ramp, but the battery didnt have enough juice to re-prime the carbs once reserve was switched on, let alone start the bike. So I had to push the bike up the hill and U-turn onto the lane going down hill... stupidly tried to scoot along with right foot on left peg, while turning right in a U-turn on a little sports bike... must have been funny to see me completely sprawl across the bike when it went down! Broke front brake lever off, further cracks to the poor old fairing blade.

4) Rider error, but I wasnt riding it, I just tied it down wrong! CBR broke its throttle cable, a shortish distance from home, and so mum comes down with the trailor, picks me up, lets me do my hash job of tying the bike to the trailer... I had it resting on its stand, diagonally across the trailer, with no compression of the front forks... needless to say, it fell over as we went around a corner (I was driving.. stupid cars and trailers dont know to lean into corners so all forces stay the way they should be - straight down) and I was just lucky it didnt go skating down the road, but stayed mostly on the trailer until I came to a stop.

5) Stupid mistake on the bike I had after the CBR, a RVF400. Again, a flat battery (I was a very poor student, who just parked the damn thing on a hill), so I was roll starting it, but I had forgotten to turn on the ignition, and the steering lock was still on! Similar story to the brake fluid container above, I just turned a tight circle and got spat out on the downside. My first drop on that bike, but fortunately it didnt break anything, just some minor scratches!

6) My worst spill was on the CBR, and It ended up writing it off. I had just turned left onto the road of another main road, when a car pulls up to a stop T-intersection 40m ahead of me, slows, and pulls out turning right, across my path. I had seen him pull up, seen him slowing, anticipated him stopping, begun to put on the gas (I was travelling at a fairly careful 30km, leant over still) but when I see him pull out I immediately put start slowing and aiming to go around him as he moves across to the other side of the road. Then the fu**er STOPS. ACROSS THE WHOLE ROAD! So unexpected! I did have my indicator still on from the 0.5sec earlier corner, which is what he blamed his confusion on. Anyway, I just put on the brakes hard, the bike starts low siding, but highsides when the gear lever mount catches on the road. I'm thrown off and luckily the bike stops before it crushes me against the car. I came away with a bruised heel bone, part of my frame snapped off, and that aweful scraping sound that 180kg sheathed in plastic makes when it hits the road at any speed. Luckily insurance wrote the bike off, and gave me a good price for it, which I was able to pick up the RVF400 with.

My current pick is a naked bike, due to my experiences with just how easy it is to cause a huge amount of expensive damage with very little effort!

[unhingedlizard]

Many crashes on a 50cc. Being a dick.

1) Paying more attention to the car i'd just passed than on the road ahead,
2) Knacked rear shock, overbanding, wet, nuff said,
3) Having someone fire up the inside of me and then brake hard.

[Finn]

There's no choice for "Never binned but that's makes me nervous cause it's only a matter of time and when it does happen I hope it's really minor and that my bike doesn't get too badly damaged.

Yob, I think there's a pattern emerging.

[RiderInBlack]

Anyone that has dropped their bike in the last 12 months, I am curious as to how.Oops, should have read this before voting Minior Injury and Rider Error. Does anyone here know how ta unvote? :doh: My 2 main ones were 1990 and 1999. I don't count the one dropping the bike of the back of the ute, but that was 2004. Haven't had any since then, thank goodness, and I do the K's.

[Crisis management]

Yes!!!!! with hours of practice and a display of skill never seen before I can now join your band of binners!
Rushed out monday morning (bike left outside previous night due to near drowning incident-it was raining) to get the bike out of the rain. I was fully equiped with bare feet and jeans and so to avoid getting my arse wet stood up on pegs to move bike into garage...that bit was ok. Still trying to save my dry arse I than put down sidestand (still standing on pegs) and promptly fell of the other side.
Result: knee dent in otherwise pristine tank, scratches and crack to fairing but I managed to keep my arse dry.:2thumbsup

My offspring almost expired from laughter (no xmas presents this year)

This is best blamed on complete stupidity.:(

[Pex Adams]

I chased an copper thief on a dirt road with my ZZR(not the best bikes for off roading). Hit a bump and pulled on the front brake (Big NO NO) and down I went. Did two summersaults and with momentum just kept on running. I caught up with the thief, beat his ass a bit, dragged him back to my bike; beat his ass some more and only after about 10 minutes the old body started to hurt. Was good fun though..ha ha

Did you do this in NZ?

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

My accident was 6 weeks ago. Started to rain, corner, puddle, kasplat. I was speeding as well. Wrote bike off and still bloody waiting to hear from insurance!! The worst injury is mental - going nuts without wheels and no bike!!

[Jantar]

Like RIB I didn't read the post entirely before voting. The bin I voted on happened in 1976 on a 3 month old GT750 (Ixion, dont tell Petal about this one).

Major damage
Serious injury
Other causes

I was travelling up the Waipori Rd, and because it was rather icy I was taking it carefully. I had already been through the same section of road half an hour earlier and knew exactly what the conditions were. At around 65 kmh on a left hand sweeping corner I felt the rear end start to slide out, so I just kept the throttle constant and let the bike drift smoothly through the corner.

As I came off the icy section and the rear tyre found some traction I gave it a bit of throttle to straighten out. The bike responded beautifully when suddenly all hell broke loose. The bike went into a wild tank slapper and became completely uncontrollable, so I decided it was time to abondon bike and jump clear. That plan didn't work, and as I jumped my right foot somehow got caught in the right handle bar and down I went with the bike landing on my rhead and ight shoulder, This is the only time in a number of crashes that my helmet has made contact with the ground.

When the bike was taken away for repair, it was discovered that that the rear hub had split, and the evidence was that it had a manufacturing flaw from new. It was just waiting for the right conditions to let go.

[dawnrazor]

its good to see so many folks taking responsibility for their own screw ups, my recent off was 100% lack of concentration on my behalf, could have saved it but was too slow to react to the position I put myself in...end result a slow speed bin and a reawakened appreciation for two wheeled transport and how easy it is to get caught napping.

[Darkman]

Did you do this in NZ?


ooooooops..no.

[R6_kid]

First crash on my R6 was from being tired, dehydrated and hungry - didnt have a clear head and did the wrong thing when i came into a corner too hot, also was going too fast for my skill at the time.

Second crash was oil on the road after some rain, didnt see it as i was following a van at the time, on the gas a little out of a corner to go up hill, hit the oil and my back end decided it wanted to take the lead = ouch and damage to the bike.

3rd 'crash' was simply me getting to cocky, lined up a passing move on a road i didnt know, rider in front tapped brakes mid corner, i came up too fast went wide slowed down to 5kmh and proceeded to stoppie in to the local flora (aka the Rustle in Russel)... probably a little tired but mainly letting my balls grow too much on a public road. No damage to me or the bike other than a few scratchs on the zorst which pollished out.

Thankfully i have learnt from each of these incidents, i am now more cautious in the wet, always get a decent sleep and food/drink prior to riding, stop when i get tired/exhausted, have somewhat toned down my road riding, and have removed the 'stupid passing' moves from my riding (wait for a straight or beep at the rider so they know im there and wanting to get past)

What do i do now when i get into and 'oh fuck!#$%^&&" - dont panic, dont think, look where i want to go, and do what i need to do to get there. It takes a long time to learn, the best way to avoid self-induced accidents its to take it down a few notches well before you get into the moment - save the crazy stuff for the track :cool:

[Flyingpony]

Can't remember the last time I binned a bike :banana:
Most recent would've been back around 1995 or so.

The last close call was about 2 years ago due to wet paint and trying to come to a stop quick time. Made the stupid mistake of touching rear brake :baby: Came within inches of :buggerd: into a wheel chair compatible taxi - how ironic.

[mooks]

last bin: dickhead on a vfr was playing slipstreaming amongst a group of us .... he touched my rear wheel ... flicked me into the bottom of a steep corner ... wrote off my beautiful tiger cub :( :bye: - broke my shoulder blade and 3 fingers .... I remember getting to my feet and kicking that bloke so hard in the nuts he couldn't breathe ... omg :bye: .. my beautiful cub ......
Hence I ride by myself now, no trustie the group rides - no sirree.
last scary moment - woman in cage on kelburn parade. I made eye contact with her - like - real eye contact - exchanging smiles the whole thing - next thing I know she's pulled a u'ie in front of me .... then she "sees" me ... screams and slams the brakes on. coming to a stop in my lane .... in 8am traffic. I pulled the most stunning stopie of my life (never done one before - or since) got claps from people on the pavement. Had to change pants when i got to work. Unable to focus for a bit too .....

[SPman]

Unable to focus for a bit too .....
hit the tank that hard..huh?

[Disco Dan]

1st (just after picking up my learners) Brand new gloves, half way around corner in westgate flicked throttle by accident and did a wheelie and then slid accross the intersection. Damage: front fright indicator, headlight and ego.

2nd, Following a car too close on central park drive, car in front of the one i was following braked suddenly (ass) and sat in middle of the road indicating to go into repco, car in front of me tried to get through gap to his left but couldnt, braked hard. I braked hard, locked my back wheel up, whole bike wobbled and threw me off, bike bounced twice then slide into curb. i rolled a few times then went sliding feet first under the car in front! I looked up to see the cars back bumper abover my face, car then drove off, oblivious that anything had even happend. Dumbass driver, dumb ass rider. Damage: right hand peg snapped off, bent forks, broken headlight. After a very kind woman from the tile shop helped me get off the road, i rode to work with no back brake and my foot resting on the exahust. Little bit of road rash on my waist (jacket raised up) and curiosly, lost both big toe nails.

Both rider error really, angry with myself for not being able to recover the locked back wheel. been VERY cautious of locking my rear since, to the point of braking very early...

Both done on my fisrt bike within weeks of teaching myself to ride on yamaha FZX250 Zeal.
Had year off riding now back on one, ZZR250. Allready getting a bit too overconfident... fear another spill may be due if im not careful!

[classic zed]

A Honda Civic decided it wanted to do a "U" turn when I was using the road.

Result, a big dent, broken glass and a written off bike.

The driver of the poor dented Honda was eventually prosecuted, I bought the bike back and restored it. So all was not lost I guess:2thumbsup

[mooks]

LOL - something like that .....

[FROSTY]

1 xtimes chain across the road === 1x very sore rider