Michelin Pilot race

[dreamR]

hi everybody.
i just got my first bike yesterday,cbr250rr.loving it!
it has michelin pilot race tyres front and rear and they looked like a bit of a semi slick tyre to me which was confirmed by google searching.
now the question is:is this tyre ok/good as an all round tyre?like is it going to be a bit dangerous for a learner like myself come rain or whatever?
any advice/knowledge muchly appretiated.
cheers kirk

[WINJA]

hi everybody.
i just got my first bike yesterday,cbr250rr.loving it!
it has michelin pilot race tyres front and rear and they looked like a bit of a semi slick tyre to me which was confirmed by google searching.
now the question is:is this tyre ok/good as an all round tyre?like is it going to be a bit dangerous for a learner like myself come rain or whatever?
any advice/knowledge muchly appretiated.
cheers kirk

THOSE TYRES DONT HAVE MUCH SILICA IN THEM SO BE CAREFUL IN THE RAIN EVEN IF THEIR WARMED UP , ALSO THEY ARE DESIGNED TO LET THE SIDES COOL DOWN QUICKLY SO IF YOU COME TO YOUR FIRST CORNER IN A FEW KM THE SIDES MAY NOT BE UP TO TEMP , THOSE ARE GREAT TYRES THO IVE HAD MANY SETS

[R6_kid]

the word on the street from the fast 250 riders (and racers) is that the GPR70 is the best sticky tyre out there atm for 250's. Also has a GPR100 which is slightly harder and will therefore last longer.

From what i've heard the boys run a GPR70 front and a GPR100 rear.

I only ever rode on Bridgestone BT45's (battleaxe) or the stickier BT92/96, the numbers may have changed but if you drop in to Cycletreads in takapuna they will hook you up with a deal on the Dunlops. Just ask to see what they have in terms of 250 tyres.

I dont know your skill level, but there is no harm in getting some sticky tyres to learn on. Only thing is that if you do a lot of commuting then you'd want something in a 'medium' compound so that when you go on weekend rides your tyres dont feel flat bottomed.

Send either Texmo or vtec a PM, they have both been racing 250's this year so they would probably be your best bet.

[Two Smoker]

Those tyres are amazing on the track!!! But not so good on for a first bike... Best thing to do would be flick them off and get some Dunlop GPR70's

[Chrislost]

i have seen GPR70s on a few cbr400s, they seem pretty sweet

[ZeroIndex]

if you want to stay with some really good tyres, go for the pilot powers.. my friend just bought a TZR250 with a Pilot power on the front and some continental tyre on the back (which keeps spinning up).. he's busy saving for a pilot on the rear..

[Lou Girardin]

Sell them, get proper road tyres.

[dreamR]

so the pilot race may not be good for the street esp when wet.
are the gpr70/100s good for road and wet etc?
what are barely used pilot races worth then?

[WINJA]

Dont Sell Em Just Use Them , Btw They Are A Soft Carcass Tyre And Puncture Easily

[2much]

agree with winga, mint tyres, save 'em for a trackday

[Black Bandit]

Well I just picked up a set of Dunlops (GPR 100's) and as you know it was pissing down today. Obviously still scrubbing them in and taking it gently but they feel really good. Decent amount of tread for wet weather riding and confidence for the dry. Highly recommend them boys at Cycletreads in Takapuna. Decided not to go for the GPR 70 cause the tread on the front was worryingly skinny.

[BNZ]

GPR70's are great tyres. If you cant afford GPR70 front and back, throw a GRP80 on the rear (slightly firmer). The GPR70s warm up a lot faster, and the GPR80 will give if you push it hard enough.

[ZeroIndex]

or get some Pirelli Sport Demons.. I got some of those, and love them :)

[dreamR]

Well I just picked up a set of Dunlops (GPR 100's) and as you know it was pissing down today. Obviously still scrubbing them in and taking it gently but they feel really good. Decent amount of tread for wet weather riding and confidence for the dry. Highly recommend them boys at Cycletreads in Takapuna. Decided not to go for the GPR 70 cause the tread on the front was worryingly skinny.

cool.how much did you pay for the set?
yeah i am thinking that i may keep the tyres for a latter date when i can take them on the track.
or i could just wear them out on the road?

[Black Bandit]

cool.how much did you pay for the set?
yeah i am thinking that i may keep the tyres for a latter date when i can take them on the track.
or i could just wear them out on the road?

About $400. Wouldn't get too hung up about particular brands though, fitted Dunlop cause they were the best combo for my bike. F:110/70 R:150/60. You could go equally well with a set of Michelins or Bridgestone. Pirelli were very pricey though.


GPR70's are great tyres. If you cant afford GPR70 front and back, throw a GRP80 on the rear (slightly firmer). The GPR70s warm up a lot faster, and the GPR80 will give if you push it hard enough.

I believe that the GPR80's been discontinued - that's what I used to use.

[SimJen]

Pilot races are primo but take ages to warm up and almost dangerous in the wet. I used em for years on my NSR, when hot they are grippy as.
The GPR70's are a better all around choice in my opinion, more grip from cold and heat up fast.
Get a GPR70 SP (softer) for the front and a plain GPR70 for the rear.
Always get a tyre designed for the lighter bikes, the Pilot Powers are really for something heavier and although a great tire i'd only recommend them on a 600+.
Stick with the tried and true GPR70's and you can't go wrong.
Not worth flicking the Pilots though, just ride carefully and explore the difference between cold and warm tires.....with care! It should make you a better rider :)

[Hillbilly]

If they're new, try to have them swapped for a set of Michelin Pilot Sports. The compounds in Bridgestones tend to be hard. A mate has pair of Battlax BT-14's on his ZZR 100. They're fine as the bikes got some weight, but the same tyres on a GSXR 1000 let go and got untidy in the corners. That was on hot Aussie roads too.

Got Battlax BT-45's on the GS500, which are OK for general commuting, but I wouldn't want to push them too hard.

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