Michelin Pilot race

**dreamR** · 15th October 2006, 09:18

hi everybody.
i just got my first bike yesterday,cbr250rr.loving it!
it has michelin pilot race tyres front and rear and they looked like a bit of a semi slick tyre to me which was confirmed by google searching.
now the question is:is this tyre ok/good as an all round tyre?like is it going to be a bit dangerous for a learner like myself come rain or whatever?
any advice/knowledge muchly appretiated.
cheers kirk

**WINJA** · 15th October 2006, 09:22

Originally Posted by dreamR

hi everybody.
i just got my first bike yesterday,cbr250rr.loving it!
it has michelin pilot race tyres front and rear and they looked like a bit of a semi slick tyre to me which was confirmed by google searching.
now the question is:is this tyre ok/good as an all round tyre?like is it going to be a bit dangerous for a learner like myself come rain or whatever?
any advice/knowledge muchly appretiated.
cheers kirk

THOSE TYRES DONT HAVE MUCH SILICA IN THEM SO BE CAREFUL IN THE RAIN EVEN IF THEIR WARMED UP , ALSO THEY ARE DESIGNED TO LET THE SIDES COOL DOWN QUICKLY SO IF YOU COME TO YOUR FIRST CORNER IN A FEW KM THE SIDES MAY NOT BE UP TO TEMP , THOSE ARE GREAT TYRES THO IVE HAD MANY SETS

**R6_kid:Me** · 15th October 2006, 09:25

the word on the street from the fast 250 riders (and racers) is that the GPR70 is the best sticky tyre out there atm for 250's. Also has a GPR100 which is slightly harder and will therefore last longer.

From what i've heard the boys run a GPR70 front and a GPR100 rear.

I only ever rode on Bridgestone BT45's (battleaxe) or the stickier BT92/96, the numbers may have changed but if you drop in to Cycletreads in takapuna they will hook you up with a deal on the Dunlops. Just ask to see what they have in terms of 250 tyres.

I dont know your skill level, but there is no harm in getting some sticky tyres to learn on. Only thing is that if you do a lot of commuting then you'd want something in a 'medium' compound so that when you go on weekend rides your tyres dont feel flat bottomed.

Send either Texmo or vtec a PM, they have both been racing 250's this year so they would probably be your best bet.

**Two Smoker** · 15th October 2006, 16:24

Those tyres are amazing on the track!!! But not so good on for a first bike... Best thing to do would be flick them off and get some Dunlop GPR70's

**Chrislost** · 15th October 2006, 22:33

i have seen GPR70s on a few cbr400s, they seem pretty sweet

**ZeroIndex** · 15th October 2006, 23:42

if you want to stay with some really good tyres, go for the pilot powers.. my friend just bought a TZR250 with a Pilot power on the front and some continental tyre on the back (which keeps spinning up).. he's busy saving for a pilot on the rear..

**Lou Girardin** · 16th October 2006, 06:06

Sell them, get proper road tyres.

**dreamR** · 16th October 2006, 20:09

so the pilot race may not be good for the street esp when wet.
are the gpr70/100s good for road and wet etc?
what are barely used pilot races worth then?

**WINJA** · 16th October 2006, 20:23

Dont Sell Em Just Use Them , Btw They Are A Soft Carcass Tyre And Puncture Easily

**2much** · 16th October 2006, 20:35

agree with winga, mint tyres, save 'em for a trackday

**Black Bandit** · 16th October 2006, 21:50

Well I just picked up a set of Dunlops (GPR 100's) and as you know it was pissing down today. Obviously still scrubbing them in and taking it gently but they feel really good. Decent amount of tread for wet weather riding and confidence for the dry. Highly recommend them boys at Cycletreads in Takapuna. Decided not to go for the GPR 70 cause the tread on the front was worryingly skinny.

**BNZ** · 17th October 2006, 07:40

GPR70's are great tyres. If you cant afford GPR70 front and back, throw a GRP80 on the rear (slightly firmer). The GPR70s warm up a lot faster, and the GPR80 will give if you push it hard enough.

**ZeroIndex** · 17th October 2006, 11:02

or get some Pirelli Sport Demons.. I got some of those, and love them

**dreamR** · 17th October 2006, 18:02

Originally Posted by Black Bandit

Well I just picked up a set of Dunlops (GPR 100's) and as you know it was pissing down today. Obviously still scrubbing them in and taking it gently but they feel really good. Decent amount of tread for wet weather riding and confidence for the dry. Highly recommend them boys at Cycletreads in Takapuna. Decided not to go for the GPR 70 cause the tread on the front was worryingly skinny.

cool.how much did you pay for the set?
yeah i am thinking that i may keep the tyres for a latter date when i can take them on the track.
or i could just wear them out on the road?

**Black Bandit** · 17th October 2006, 18:20

Originally Posted by dreamR

cool.how much did you pay for the set?
yeah i am thinking that i may keep the tyres for a latter date when i can take them on the track.
or i could just wear them out on the road?

About $400. Wouldn't get too hung up about particular brands though, fitted Dunlop cause they were the best combo for my bike. F:110/70 R:150/60. You could go equally well with a set of Michelins or Bridgestone. Pirelli were very pricey though.

Originally Posted by BNZ

GPR70's are great tyres. If you cant afford GPR70 front and back, throw a GRP80 on the rear (slightly firmer). The GPR70s warm up a lot faster, and the GPR80 will give if you push it hard enough.

I believe that the GPR80's been discontinued - that's what I used to use.